Session Start: Sat Jun 03 13:46:45 2006 Session Ident: #nonprophets [13:46] * Now talking in #nonprophets [13:46] * Topic is 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, June 3rd, 2006! at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.freethoughtradio.com, or visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for archived episodes.' [13:46] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat May 20 15:29:33 [13:46] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [13:47] * rudeboy has joined #nonprophets [13:47] ah, someone is going blah blah blah [13:47] must be those NPs warming up [13:47] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.freethoughtradio.com! [13:47] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.freethoughtradio.com! (Non-Prophets)' [13:47] That was me - No one is supposed to be connected yet... but I can't stop you :) [13:48] he heh heh [13:48] I'm sneaky that way [13:48] You guys all cranked for another show? [13:50] * Billy has joined #nonprophets [13:50] * Billy has left #nonprophets [13:50] * Billy has joined #nonprophets [13:52] Yup, we're gearing up now :) [13:52] * atxcats has joined #nonprophets [13:52] * ouini has joined #nonprophets [13:53] Hm. time for a noon time beer then [13:53] heh country music time... [13:53] new theme? [13:53] bourbon & root beer here [13:53] New theme every week... pretty much :) [13:54] the theme her is.. it's friggin hot today [13:54] 8) I'm staying indoors [13:54] heh [13:54] 102 yesterday [13:54] Nice to have topical songs ... though the run of Yes (my favorite group) was nice. [13:54] 106 expected today [13:55] It's friggin June... Where's the fog? [13:55] Sorry, I had to rant [13:55] austin has been nice this week 85 and rain [13:55] I like to mix it up... something topical, something cool. What we're doing now is just rotating through each of us, picking out the theme song [13:55] Today's isn't really on topic, though it can be. I just really like John Prine and laugh at this particular song every time. [13:55] "Nice" "85" and "Rain" in the same sentence? [13:56] Sounds like a sauna to me [13:57] brb getting a beer... [13:57] some days were a bit cooler -- it hasn't seemed to bad [13:57] too bad [13:57] i'm on the spelling/usage police patrol [13:58] I think I saw you the other night on TV, leading away the kid who couldn't spell pteradactyl [13:58] heh [13:59] yep [13:59] "Freeze! It's the Spell Cops! [13:59] pair of dac till? [13:59] We're all still listening to nothing, right? [13:59] it's silent for the nonce [13:59] any second now [13:59] waiting, waiting [14:00] here we go [14:00] Hey, what, no Dixie Chicks..? [14:00] darwin brewers -- is that what you're drinking? [14:00] i mean darwin beers [14:00] Chat hosted by irc.wikkedwire.com [14:00] heh [14:00] beer [14:00] Visit the Atheist Community of Austin website: http://www.atheist-community.org [14:01] Visit the Non-Prophets website: http://www.nonprophetsradio.com [14:01] Listen LIVE at http://www.freethoughtradio.com [14:01] I just popped the top off a pete's wicked ale [14:01] Welcome! If you're having problems with freethoughtradio, you can connect directly to the LIVE show! Winamp, media player and other software can be used by "connect to URL" or "play URL" features and directing the player to: nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000 (Limited spaces available) [14:01] ooh, that's yummy! [14:01] * NeutronJack has joined #nonprophets [14:01] NJ! [14:02] * rudeboy puts his feet up [14:02] lol [14:02] Ok....we're live! If you didn't hear John Prine, you're listening to a repeat. If you heard nothing, you're not connected. If you didn't convince a friend to tune in - you're going straight to my imaginary hell, reserved for people who talk during movies (and other nuisances). [14:02] Morning, NP! [14:02] sugar fiends! [14:03] what part of the multiple levels of hell are reserved for those who type during the show? [14:03] giant bowl of m & m's -- is that today's show? [14:03] mmmmmm chocolate...... [14:03] * rudeboy checks his pod [14:04] "Completely and utterly solved." Somebody write that down for posterity. [14:04] Oooh, shall I not record a back-up anymore? [14:04] * rudeboy writes it on his posterior [14:04] I'm not sure we necessarily meant "solved forever" :) [14:04] great, I've missed a lot of shows and have been going through withdrawal [14:04] hence the sugar fix [14:05] * Billy has quit IRC [14:05] what respect? [14:05] * rudeboy looks around [14:05] R-E-S-P-E-C-T [14:06] Find out what it means to me. [14:06] where are those weapons of mass respect? [14:06] * rudeboy looks behind his desk [14:06] muahaha [14:06] not back here [14:06] * rudeboy looks in his closet [14:06] no, not in here either [14:06] * rudeboy checks the master bath [14:06] * rudeboy passes out from the fumes [14:06] nope, not there either [14:06] stretch the vulgar envelope, please [14:07] vulgar envelopes are made of rubber? [14:07] * rudeboy adds that to his vast treasure chest of knowledge [14:07] boy, I neededt his beer [14:08] "Pedo_Priest!" A Quinn Martin Production! This fall on FOX [14:08] Featuring Tori Spelling as . . .? [14:09] The evil producer [14:10] There is a lot of molestation in non-Catholic churches, too [14:10] mind molestation as well [14:10] yeah, that's a particulary vile form of child abuse [14:12] yes, she seems to be saying that it isn't the NPs vulgarity (NOT language per se) but something else [14:13] XCZZ [14:13] that was the cat, sorry [14:13] the obscene three stooges [14:13] lol [14:13] cat's in the chat [14:13] cat in the chat came back [14:16] there used to be someone in TX who would plant beer cans in the upside down dead armadillos you see on the roads here [14:16] okay... [14:16] * Dave63 has joined #nonprophets [14:17] lol [14:17] "A fuck you cross" [14:17] I love it [14:19] "roadside rubbish" [14:19] Just as schools which are against gay-support groups tend to cancel all extra-curricular groups when forced to treat them equally, I'd say if pentagrams or upside-down crosses showed up, they'd start removing all roadside shrines. [14:20] good point, ouini [14:23] uh oh, priests prostrating [14:24] someone get out the KY [14:24] There was one intersection near me (during the presidential election) where one day the corner was full of "Bush" signs, and the next day it was full of "Kerry" signs, then "Bush" signs, etc. There were no Libertarian signs! So your take on Libertarianism is about as accurate as Jerry Falwell's take on atheism. PS: I'm a Libertarian. [14:25] Buying off Gawd for Billions, the story of the Cathloic Church [14:25] Ah, the lawn sign wars [14:25] Yo just needed to get some libertarians together to do to them what they do to each other [14:26] * ThinkFest has joined #nonprophets [14:26] Very astute, rudeboy. [14:26] well, I am a college graduate [14:26] I remember stereo wars [14:26] between dorms [14:26] 'lo. [14:26] making noise better than beating the shot out of each other [14:27] er... shit [14:27] not shot [14:27] When I went to college, fist fights were very rare [14:29] Right [14:29] this is such a cheerful subject, sigh [14:29] the molestation. the stereo wars are funny [14:30] And isn't it VERY INTERESTING that suddenly they are harping on the anti-gay ammendment, knocking the HIGH PRICE of gas off the news radar...? hmmm? [14:30] Hey, Bush is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths, rapes, and brutal maimings. Annoying gay people is icing on a cake of concentrated bloody diarhetic shit. [14:30] they gotta make their base happy [14:30] I don't think anyone can claim they're surprised that Bush flopped to make a wedge issue more relevant in an election year. [14:30] not to mention the gross military violations in Iraq [14:31] heh a stunning image there, TF [14:32] the president is still with them [14:33] this will be a nasty election year [14:33] I think Russell hit the nail on the head, there. [14:33] I'm still waiting for a voter's guide for non-religious-fascists. :) [14:33] uh hm [14:34] OT: i just printed something from the laptop over the wireless network. (i'm just shocked because i thought it would be more complicated -- it worked the first time i tried. rather, the second time - the first time it didn't work because the printer was outta paper.) [14:34] oh, just the usual fascists then... [14:34] that was a funny story (lightning) [14:34] lol [14:34] I'm blessed to be the lightning rod of Gawd! [14:35] One of Pat Robertson's planes crashed. . . [14:35] * rudeboy adjusts his lightning rod [14:35] Thor just doesn't get why people aren't paying him homage anymore... [14:35] hopefully he was in it [14:35] no [14:35] * ThinkFest holds up the long metal skewer with a marshmallow on it. [14:35] Maybe Thor's hammer is a bit tarnished [14:36] Or Thor is a slacker [14:36] lol [14:36] yeah, free energy for marshmellows! [14:36] lol [14:36] I love it [14:36] Thorsday is my favorite day. [14:36] yep [14:36] England has gay marriage. Spain has gay marriage. The Vatican can only whine whine whine. I think we should be celebrating! [14:36] surprised the Xtians don't get all upset about that [14:37] Thor exists because he is on our calendar [14:37] the vatican also Wines and wines and wines [14:37] Talk about Extreme Makeover [14:37] ah [14:37] oh, yes, this deserves mention [14:37] Net NEutrality is extremely important [14:37] i'm listening. . . [14:38] time to read up guy [14:38] oh, yeah, i did read about this [14:38] go to electronic frontier foundation [14:38] Net neutrality is very important. If it wasn't for net neutrality, the Non-Prophets would've been ghetto-ized long ago. [14:39] exactly [14:39] longer or not heard at all dur to price [14:39] due [14:39] this means THEY control what THEY think is of value [14:39] based on their own political agenda [14:40] in other words, it wold be the foxnewsization of the net [14:40] exactly. [14:40] hah! [14:40] i'd riot for this! [14:40] cause THEY know they can be a target [14:40] lol [14:41] yeah, you gotta remind them that things that protect us protect them, too. [14:41] they tend to forget that point [14:41] exactly [14:42] * ThinkFest . o O ( pizza... ) [14:42] mmmmmmmm pizzzq [14:42] shit [14:42] pizza [14:42] what's on it? [14:42] I'm still just fantasizing. That hot mozzarella-on-pepperoni action. [14:43] ahhhhhh [14:43] i saw a pizza in germany that had (among other things) sauerkraut and an egg on it [14:43] Again, Russell has it. It's a barrier to entry. As far as public forums go, TV is pretty much a "you can get your message out if you have money". This would push the internet the same direction. [14:43] atx: yow! :) [14:44] I make bratwurst pizza, with a mustard sauce and saurkraut. Very good. [14:44] sauerkraut and egg? [14:44] wow.... [14:44] not I'm gettin ghungry [14:44] When cable went up in Austin, the city negotiated and the cable companies agreed to fund the public access system. Unlike television, the number of people who want to get on TV is in the hundreds but people with websites is in the billions. [14:44] they drop a raw egg on it, pop it in the oven. . . [14:44] yum [14:45] based on how much they pay or what their politics are [14:45] It gets deeper then that [14:46] Gee, doesn't this sound a lot like that Austin toll road plan that was jammed up our collective tookuses over the past 8 years? Privatize it, and ghettoize transport for all non-rich fuckers. [14:47] the tragedy of the commons again . . . [14:47] yep [14:47] The toll road wasn't "partisan"; it was railroaded through by people whose spouses and siblings owned the contractors. [14:47] Democrats and Republicans banded together for the abuse. [14:47] Guess they didn't see that one coming [14:48] that's why they fear it [14:48] they fear thay anyone can get a message out THEY don't like [14:49] they being the guys who want to control this thing called the internet [14:49] course, the public access is controlled by the people who run the studio [14:50] one need only look at the history of Angsto the Clown to understand that one [14:50] The CC being insightful and correct on this internet issue is, I think, very analogous to how Christians can be very insightful and correct when dissecting other religions' (or other Christian sects') faults, but blind to, well, pretty much everything else. [14:50] rudeboy: I don't think it's motivated by ideological tyranny. I think it's motivated by the knowledge that other people are motivated by ideology and will pay through the nipples to be heard. They would make more money if they had a legal ability to pick and choose. [14:50] yeah, it may be [14:50] * AZAtheist has joined #nonprophets [14:51] If net neutrality dies, the Vatican will suddenly be able to bring all that gold to bear once more, in a way the Internet has effectively stopped. [14:51] hi, AZ. [14:51] umhm [14:51] Selective free speech. Dear oh dear. [14:52] selected by someone toehr that yourself [14:52] * AZAtheist has left #nonprophets [14:52] damn keyboard [14:52] who moved these keys around [14:52] help help, you're being repressed. [14:52] God did it. [14:52] lol [14:52] do you have chat cats, perhaps? [14:53] not cats, snakes. But those two are in their cages [14:53] my typing sucks [14:54] * AZAtheist has joined #nonprophets [14:54] * ThinkFest laughs at game geeky news. [14:55] oh, shit.... [14:55] hm? [14:55] engage the infidel? [14:55] on new york streets? [14:55] spiritual warfare [14:55] lovely [14:56] hm [14:56] I had a good friend go to the E-3 [14:56] * NeutronJack will return. [14:56] * NeutronJack has quit IRC [14:57] He said he saw something about a Xtian game... [14:57] (screenshots: http://www.talk2action.org/story/2006/5/29/195855/959 ) [14:57] wonder if it's the same one [14:57] lol [14:58] sick and funny at the same time [14:58] I always thought it would be interesting to have a game where you're Moses, and you and your battle-hardened Levite army must slaughter the men women and children Israelites, in the name of God, with big swords. Make it real graphic, too. [14:58] I always thought it would be interesting to have a game where you're Moses, and you and your battle-hardened Levite army must slaughter the men women and children Israelites, in the name of God, with big swords. Make it real graphic, too. [14:59] So, this isn't precisely a lampoon, but it does seem to be money-making centric, not ideologically-based. Being able to play on the anti-Christ's side makes me think it's not targeted towards Fundie Christian parents. [14:59] sorry about the double post [14:59] yeah, some atheist game programmer needs to release games based on the violence and sex and insanity in the bible [14:59] I like that [15:00] * NeutronJack has joined #nonprophets [15:00] well, it would take a Xtian thinking, let's get some of those gamer billions in our pockets [15:00] yeah, i wanna dash babies' heads on rocks [15:00] whoa, yeah [15:00] burn witches [15:00] Heads on pikes! [15:01] kill recalcitrant children [15:01] it's gawdly and heavenly [15:01] and anyone who is wearing mixed fabrics [15:01] Let's see... it'll take me all of... three hours to rewrite the dialog. Same game, but instead of saying "True Christian", it'll say "True Muslim" and instead of saying "Catholic" it'll say "American Protestants". [15:01] oh yeah [15:01] LOL [15:01] That accurate depiction of the map of New York will be very helpful to terrorists. [15:01] Get it copywrited TF [15:02] you may have a moneymaker on your hands [15:04] One of the TV shows I enjoy the most now is Battlestar Galactica. It touches on what happens when a bunch of people feel justified in declaring a certain population not worthy of being treated as real people. [15:04] cylons [15:05] My pet theory: they're actually *all* cylons, having been constructed by an ark after the human race destroyed itself. [15:06] hm. [15:06] Well, the show has taken some sharp tunes [15:06] It's art... until you lock your children in a room with it and refuse to let them eat until they've played. >:) [15:06] hah [15:06] * NeutronJack has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [15:07] com eback shane [15:07] The Bible is 'literature' but many extremists have no problem with locking children in a room and forcing them to read before they are allowed food. [15:09] * NeutronJack has joined #nonprophets [15:09] God smote my connection. [15:09] rehi, NeuJack. [15:11] Buffy! [15:11] Ah, yeah, you can be Teh Ebil Master. [15:11] heh [15:12] Okay, don't buy that game. Buy an Oozinator instead: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3XnLt0Ct5k Get yours before they're BANNED. [15:13] Get your Oozinator, and then get one of these for extra fun: An Adult PLUS SIZE Priest Costume. http://www.costumecraze.com/FFG02.html [15:15] lol [15:15] ozzinator? [15:15] * rudeboy clicks [15:15] * Neutron-Jack has joined #nonprophets [15:15] * Neutron-Jack is having quite a time. [15:15] LOL [15:16] * NeutronJack has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [15:16] hah! [15:16] * Neutron-Jack is now known as NeutronJack [15:16] * NeutronJack is still here! [15:16] I think the best part of the Oozinator commercial is where it says, "MAJOR PUMPING ACTION REQUIRED!" [15:16] * rudeboy chuckles [15:17] One of the banned responses on Amazon said, "I am going to need therapy because that commercial gave me a woody..." [15:17] lol [15:17] Another one said, "I sure hope somebody got FIRED for this." [15:17] I assume he didn't mean an early 50s automobile of that name [15:19] * Neutron-Jack has joined #nonprophets [15:19] * Neutron-Jack fumes [15:19] Lots of apocryphal texts say explicitly that heaven and hell are only metaphorical. This seems to be the "original" Jesus, and scraps of this original philosophy survive in scripture that says things like, "Paradise is here and now, look around you." [15:19] this is more my gaming style... [15:19] http://homepage.tinet.ie/~ournexus/jumpjez.html [15:20] Ahahahahaa! Jumpin' Jesus onna Pogo Stick! gotta lubb da Jaba. [15:21] I'm particularly intrigued by the notion that everything _specific_ about the standard, Christian concept of Hell comes from apocryphal texts (specifically the apocalypse of Peter)...as the Bible is very non-specific. So much so that some folks (like Billy Graham) have concluded that Hell isn't a place, or a place of torture, but simply "separation from God" [15:21] thought you might like it [15:21] Just today, I spoke with an annoying person on #bible about "Your relative morality". [15:22] * BIllyS has joined #nonprophets [15:22] Consider that Pfiesteria has 32 different forms, some of which are multicellular, some of which are shelled, some of which are amoeba-like. Multicellularity was probably a "phase", a temporary condition that organisms could turn on and off as advantageous or not. [15:22] * NeutronJack has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [15:22] Do the canon support the idea that hell is just seperation from God? [15:23] 'the canon'? [15:23] Do the canonical texts ... [15:23] Catholicism, originally called 'The Orthodox', does not. The 3rd Century blackballing party known as the Council of Nicea voted on it. [15:23] * Neutron-Jack doubts it. [15:24] the only canno I know lobs 9 pound balls [15:24] cannon [15:24] canon, cannon [15:24] I think most liberal Christians prefer that interpretation, and support for a 'hell' is largely a medieval construct. [15:24] Different lengths. [15:24] umhm [15:25] reggae [15:25] * BIllyS has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [15:25] * ouini has quit IRC (ouini) [15:25] * Billy has joined #nonprophets [15:25] * rudeboy examines his volvox [15:25] World's WORST Jamaican accent! [15:25] The 'hell' meme gets big support when theocracies need to rationalize murderous warfare. "You're doing people a favor by converting them. Nothing you can do to them is as bad as what God will if you don't convert, so it's your duty." [15:25] jah mon [15:25] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, June 17th, 2006! at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.freethoughtradio.com, or visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for archived episodes. [15:25] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, June 17th, 2006! at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.freethoughtradio.com, or visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for archived episodes. (Non-Prophets)' [15:25] hookah hits! [15:25] good job again guys [15:25] see ya in two more [15:25] "They call it... Tuning." [15:26] heh [15:26] I'm outta here! Thanks all...we'll see you in 2 weeks. (I've gotta get this podcast stuff uploaded.) :) [15:26] bye! [15:26] yep [15:26] Good show, NP! [15:26] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat Jun 03 15:26:19 2006