Session Start: Sat Dec 03 13:10:20 2005
Session Ident: #nonprophets
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* Topic is 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, December 3 at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.freethoughtradio.com, or visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for archived episodes.'
* Set by Non-Prophets on Tue Nov 22 18:37:10
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<Lykos4> word
<Non-Prophets> What's up Lykos
<Lykos4> this is six more another words.
<Lykos4> howdy
<Lykos4> I have never listened to your show live before
<Non-Prophets> Woot! Welcome.
<Lykos4> I just finished listening to all teh podcasts you have online this morning.
<Lykos4> How do I listen to the nonpodcast version?
<Lykos4> checking your site...
<Lykos4> I had a show on Atheist Network back when I had some free time
<Non-Prophets> Sorry, it's at http://www.freethoughtradio.com
<Lykos4> Should I hear anything yet?
<Non-Prophets> On Freethoughtradio.com, there is probably another show playing.
<Non-Prophets> We will go in 10 minutes
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<Lykos4> I don't hear anything at http://www.freethoughtradio.com/listen_mediaplayer32.asx
<Lykos4> can anyone else hear it?
<Lykos4> ie, anything
<Indefual> Why is the time listed in EST all the time? Isn't Texas in another time zone?
<Indefual> I can hear some guy talking
<Indefual> About baptising people in a public pool
<SeanSouza-FTR> yeah, I did that, sorry =/
<Lykos4> .asx?  is that a realaudio format?
<Lykos4> I can't open it in iTunes
<Indefual> Hmmm..
<Indefual> Not sure...
<Non-Prophets> I'm back, answers to questions coming....
<Indefual> I don't think it's Real audio... I think that's a .RAM
<Non-Prophets> Inde - The time is in EST just because that's standard for freethoughtradio and other broadcasts
<Indefual> No that's media play ... .asx is windows media player
<SeanSouza-FTR> .asx is a streaming format 
<Indefual> http://www.freethoughtradio.com/howtolisten.html
<Lykos4> I'll try media player
<Indefual> It has the RAM, Winamp, and Media Play links.
<Indefual> The Winamp link usually works for me, but I don't use Winamp anymore. :)
<Non-Prophets> You can also connect directly in winamp if you're having problems. Open Winamp > Press Ctrl-L > enter 'nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000'
<Lykos4> I have a mac
<Non-Prophets> Though we'd much rather have everyone connecting via freethoughtradio.com
<Lykos4> that asx URL didnt work opening in media player
<Non-Prophets> 90 seconds to starting music (though, you won't hear it that quickly due to the delay)
<Lykos4> ok, I think I got it.  It saws non-prophets episode 4.21 now
<Non-Prophets> That's the show... we'll be starting soon-ish
<Lykos4> is that correct?
<Lykos4> keen
<Lykos4> I guess it wasn't working before because I had some thetans in my media player
<Lykos4> I wonder when the first scientology video game will come out...
<Lykos4> "BLAST ALL THETANS"
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<Non-Prophets> Everyone hearing the show?
<Lykos4> aye
<Non-Prophets> Cool, let the festivities begin!
<Lykos4> Stephen Colbert is also a reliable news source.
<Indefual> Wow! loud!
<Indefual> That one mic is way too loud
<Non-Prophets> URL From the show:  http://www.celebatheists.com/
<Non-Prophets> Which mic? Who's talking?
<virginia> yeah one mic is loud and the rest of you sound like you're in a well
<Lykos4> sounds fine to me
<Indefual> Umm... the one guy, the new one... When he was talking about pirate.
<Indefual> *pirates
<Indefual> he hasn't said much yet
<Non-Prophets> pirates?
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<Non-Prophets> You may be talking about my mic...I'll check it next time I actually say something
<frustration> Hey - Anyone talking?
<Lykos4> yup
<Lykos4> talking about the cruz in puerto viarta now
<frustration> Ah, I hear that.
<Non-Prophets> Chat hosted by irc.wikkedwire.com
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<Non-Prophets> Listen LIVE at http://www.freethoughtradio.com
<virginia> howdy
<Lykos4> nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000 worked for me
<frustration> That's what I use also, Lykos
<virginia> who is on the show? I missed introductions
<Lykos4> I have noticed people inserted happy holidays instead of merry christmas in songs now
<Lykos4> like a commercial had folks singing "we wish you a happy holidays..."
<virginia> gack
<virginia> that makes on sense
<frustration> Oh, yes, because, I'm so intent on taking all the merriment out of Christmas
<Lykos4> didnt sound good though
<frustration> But, I'm intent on taking the merriment out of everything, so it's sort of par for the course.
<Lykos4> rather than not celebrate christmas, I think atheists should reclaim it as the old-school pagan holiday it is
<Indefual> But then you couldn't celebrate it on Dec 24/25...
<virginia> pagans celebrate the solstice
<Indefual> The solstice changes every year.
<Indefual> Last year it was teh 21st
<frustration> I think we should trash public squares that have nativity set ups
<Indefual> I don't.
<Indefual> Anti-social.  Counter productive.
<Lykos4> not trash, add to
<Indefual> ahhaha
<Indefual> hmm.
<Lykos4> like add in a giant space ant next to jesus
<Lykos4> make it more realistic
<frustration> By trash, I mean add to, of course
<Indefual> :)
<frustration> We could make Jesus black
<frustration> For instance
<Lykos4> no, a cool see through baby jesus fighting the giant space ant
<frustration> And horrify everyone who lives in Norman Rockwellville
<frustration> Ah, psychology and philosophy - Two degrees that will get you exactly no where in the world.
<Lykos4> looking at the celeb atheists list... Ronald Prescott Reagan (the x-pres's son) is an atheist?  whoa
<Non-Prophets> ------- URL from the show: http://spectrum8.net/
<Non-Prophets> Yes, Ron Jr. is an atheist.
<virginia> that was funny Dennis
<frustration> That is an excellent web site.
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<Lykos4> The night elves worship the moon in WoW
<Lykos4> lunatics
<Indefual> *groan*
<Lykos4> I haven't played CoV or CoH.  Can you be REAL villain?  Like rape puppies and send anthrax?
<frustration> Yep
<frustration> I am falling asleep
<frustration> *raises hand*
<frustration> Ummm...
<virginia> sorry, I play games and this is kinda boring chatter....
<frustration> Not a gamer
<Lykos4> why doesn't the church just say everyone goes to heaven?
<frustration> Cuz they would lose control.
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<Dave63> They're getting rid of Limbo, but not getting rid of Hell.  Hmm...
<Lykos4> the new pope is krazy old school
<Lykos4> Pope Ratflinger
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<frustration> They should use that in court too
<frustration> Tried as an adult at TEN
<Lykos4> the catholic church should say everyone in heaven gets $10,000
<hellbound_freethinker> the news articles I've read pointed out that 'limbo' was never doctrine but simply a "theological hypothesis"
<Lykos4> What happens in heaven if you marry someone, she dies, and you remarry?  Can you have 3-ways in heaven?
<frustration> They should throw in some virgins maybe, Lykos?
<damfino> What's the difference?
<Lykos4> I think the catholic church should award 73 virgins.  That way muslims will convert
<Lykos4> for the bonus virgin
<Lykos4> and they could also say they are really hot virgins
<Lykos4> The norse believed the afterlife was all PVP
<Lykos4> that is a cool religion
<Non-Prophets> lol
<frustration> One of the virgins will be Anne Coulter.  That would do it.
<frustration> For ALL muslim men
<frustration> Heh
<frustration> I am cruel
<Lykos4> I would much prefer hanging with norse than christians. 
<hellbound_freethinker> the theologians that have been interviewed about the doing away of limbo mostly argue that babies will go straight to heaven
<damfino> I wonder how many hit points Yahweh is worth? Is he worth the same as Zeus? Certain he's not equal to Crom!
<frustration> Yep.  And they say that we are the ones afraid of death.  I do not understand that.
<frustration> I've never seen anyone more afraid of death than a Fundie
<damfino> I am afraid of death. Non-existance must suck.
<Lykos4> nah, frust, that would imply they gave it thought
<hellbound_freethinker> Josephus Ratzinger(non Benedict XVI): In an interview in 1984, he said: "Limbo has never been a defined truth of faith. Personally, speaking as a theologian and not as head of the Congregation, I would drop something that has always been only a theological hypothesis."
<damfino> Fundies are all going to hell.
<frustration> If I am, death is not.  If death is, I am not.  What's to be afraid of?  They do think about it.
<frustration> That's Plato or Socrates, btw
<frustration> You won't know if it sucks or not.
<damfino> lol
<damfino> I like continued existance.
<Lykos4> I wonder if it easier for hindus to become atheists.  Elephant-headed gods are kinda silly
<Lykos4> God is BOTH the alpha AND the OMEGA, so that is kinda 4-8
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<Lykos4> 4=8
<Dave63> The Bible endorses the binary number system of computers: (Matthew 5:37) But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
<Lykos4> cool
<Lykos4> god is l33t
<Lykos4> http://www.jwz.org/images/feature4-1b.jpg
<Dave63> By the way, Yea, yea, nay nay = 1 1 0 0, which is 12 in decimal.
<Non-Prophets> And 12...is 6+6 ...it's almost EV1L!
<Lykos4> 110+110=6+6
<Lykos4> yea,yea,nea, yea yea nea
<Lykos4> thats 6 bits
<Lykos4> 6+6=6 bits
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<Lykos4> biased becuase you think creation is mythology?
<Lykos4> wtf
<Lykos4> do they complain about other mythology classes as biased?
<Lykos4> "There may be a Zeus, class.  Let's not anger him or he might turn into a bull and rape us."
<Dave63> I'm hearing two audio streams on Freethought radio.  Anybody else?
<Indefual> yup
<SeanSouza-FTR> sorry
<SeanSouza-FTR> it should be good now
<Lykos4> i hear it fine
<SeanSouza-FTR> damn program messes up sometimes X_X
<Indefual> well, you're forgiven.
<Indefual> http://infidelguy.snowbank.ca/infidelguyws.avi -- the actual wifeswap episode if you haven't seen it
<frustration> I don't think Reggie is a terrible debater at all.
<Dave63> Here's another trick they did: in the Wife Swap preview clip, Reggie kicked a stuffed teddy bear across the floor, and they edited in a loud BANG to make it appear violent.  Disgusting.
<Indefual> http://infidelguy.snowbank.ca/infidelguy.com_inside_the_finleys.mp3 -- The after Wife Swap discussion with the Infidel Guy and his wife
<frustration> Whoa
<Indefual> http://infidelguy.snowbank.ca/infidelguy.com_Stonerock_Finley_On_God.mp3 -- Discussion between the Infidel Guy and the other husband on the Wife Swap (on why he's a Christian)
<Non-Prophets> Thanks Indefual
<Indefual> http://infidelguy.snowbank.ca/biblegal.mp3 -- The "Bible Gal" episode recorded during the wife swap episode
<Indefual> No problem.  Besides, that's my server.  I'm mirroring the files for him... So I might as well advertise it. :)
<Indefual> http://www.infidelguy.com/ftopicp-297133-Official_Stonerock__Finley_Wife_Swap_Commentary_Thread.html#297133 -- The official thread... The really good posts are by Buckster
<Indefual> ** him == the Infidel Guy
<Lykos4> indefual, you have a link to reg and amber talking about the show?
<frustration> You ask for ridicule anytime you say you are an atheist in public, I swear.
<Lykos4> that is the inside the finleys one?
<Indefual> yes
<Indefual> "Inside the Finleys" the second one.  It's Amber and Reginald talking about their experience on the show.
<Dave63> frustration: That's why Reggie came across as defensive in the show; he's sick and tired of the negative reactions from people.
<frustration> I agree, Dave.  I have nothing but respect for Reggie
<Lykos4> Reg is cool.
<frustration> Fundies and society has nothing but derision for anything but believers
<frustration> It will not change in our lifetime
<frustration> We are not going to change it.  We aren't even going to make a dent.
<Lykos4> I think reggie might be too nice to be awesome at debating.  I am good at debating and I'm an arrogant prick
<frustration> So, I am going to have as much fun with the fundies as I possibly can.  I'm old, so here I go.
<Non-Prophets> I'm not saying you're wrong, but you just lost any chance of being our press secretary. ;)
<frustration> Most of them are too stupid to understand it anyway
<Non-Prophets> I can't take that view
<Non-Prophets> Since I used to be one of them. :)
<frustration> Does the phrase "Lowest Common Denominatorr" mean anything to you?
<frustration> That's why I said 'most'.
<hellbound_freethinker> frustration, I've met just as many dogmatic atheists who simply skip through arguments to support a pre-held emotional stance as I have stupid Christians
<frustration> No, they aren't paying more attention to any of us - This has been going on forever.  For - Ev - Er
<frustration> The MEDIA just likes to stir the shit and we are a good instrument for shit stirring
<Indefual> Oh, hey.  Everyone: Mozilla Firefox 1.5 has been released.  You sould upgrade now.  And if you're still using Internet Explorer--you should stop!  Get Firefox instead: http://www.mozilla.com/
<frustration> Firefox, OTOH, rox
<Indefual> :)
<frustration> What is a dogmatic atheist?
<frustration> I have no idea what one is
<Indefual> There are really silly atheists...
<Dave63> I'm a dogmatic round-earther.
<Indefual> But... I don't know how to explain it... haha :)
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<Non-Prophets> Woops, wrong date :)
<frustration> I hear that phrase used all the time and no one seems to be able to explain it
<Non-Prophets> Thanks everyone! We'll be back on the 17th, LIVE!
<frustration> Buhbye
<Dave63> Until next time then...
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<Lykos4> yo, non prophs, I want to know the name of that song about hte paper wait you used in an older episode
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Session Close: Sat Dec 03 15:29:28 2005