Session Start: Sat Jun 18 13:28:31 2005 Session Ident: #atheist_network [13:28] * Now talking in #atheist_network [13:28] * Topic is 'Newcomers: Please Go To The #Infidelguy Chat Channel For Discussion' [13:28] * Set by Laz on Sat May 28 14:04:00 [13:28] -ChanServ- (#atheist_network) Welcome to the Atheist Network IRC Channel. Please treat other as you wish to be treated... with respect. [13:32] * LordofUnbelief has joined #atheist_network [13:32] (¬_¬) [13:33] Hi there [13:33] * Indefual has joined #atheist_network [13:33] hello [13:33] are you associated with the Non-Prophets show [13:33] Well, we are supposed to be carried live on Freethought Radio this week [13:33] Good day. [13:33] Hmm, really! [13:33] That's exciting. [13:33] but I'm not sure whether they will get us, and unfortunately, I can't listen and rip my own stream at the same time [13:34] Non-Prophets ? [13:34] so can somebody here get on FTR and see if they have us at the appropriate time? [13:34] yes NP [13:34] let's see... free thought radio... [13:34] dot com [13:34] 14:00:15THE NON-PROPHETS 2-26-05Event01:32:34 [13:35] Your own 15 second after 2PM [13:35] Are you associated with the show ? [13:35] They are the show [13:35] :) [13:35] wait... [13:35] Yes I saw that they are playing old eps [13:35] that can't be rigth... [13:35] it doesn't seem like they're hearing me [13:35] but the question is whether they will manage to catch us live [13:35] Rigth now they are playing something else, it looks like... [13:35] with the Non-Prophets show? [13:35] Let me tune in... [13:36] yes, this is Russell from Non-Prophets, live show in ~25 min [13:37] oh ok [13:37] The best of the ACA on from 2-4 Saterdays... [13:37] I sent you guys two emails yesterday [13:37] Great show, by the way [13:37] My wife's a fan [13:37] And your not a fan? [13:37] (I second that, love the show) [13:37] Lord of Unbelief... Have you also heard the Atheist Experiance? [13:37] I think it's a very good show [13:38] yes [13:38] Good job. :) [13:38] Also a good show, also by the ACA. [13:38] Atheist Experience [13:38] wait [13:38] the wife says no. [13:38] we never heard it. [13:38] http://www.atheist-experience.com/ [13:38] we tried to listen to their station, but it was Jeff Rense on. [13:38] I ain't listening to no crackpot. [13:38] You can download their episodes. [13:39] It's a TV show, but they give the audio on the net. [13:39] all right [13:40] Maybe there is a problem with FreethoughtRadio.com ... because it says Hellbound Allee is on at 4PM... Don't you guys run to 4:30PM? [13:41] not as far as i KNOW [13:41] oops [13:41] not as far as I know [13:41] Right now there's random stuff running... And I seem to be having trouble buffering it... [13:41] we're supposed to be on at 4 for an hour [13:41] do they do live stuff? [13:41] Well, we'll find out in 20 minutes [13:41] I don't know. The impression I got was it's all prerecorded... [13:42] It's ah, pretty hard to get any answers out of the Souzas [13:42] I noticed that [13:42] They don't answer to a lot of my emails [13:42] I hate to repeat an email and they ignored some of the main questions I was asking [13:42] True, true [13:43] Still better than the alternative [13:43] ...which is nothing [13:43] right [13:44] So you guys are doing live shows, eh ? [13:44] Getting much interaction going on ? [13:44] um usually yes [13:44] I'll give you an address to connect to the live stream, if it doesn't start on FTR [13:45] How many listeners do you have ? [13:45] That might be a tough question to answer... [13:45] In the past we've had 20-30 live [13:45] and [13:45] we think, based on web logs, [13:46] a couple of hundred download [13:46] although we haven't looked at it recently [13:46] Yeah, lots of people might just download.... [13:46] ah, good, good [13:46] we don't have that much yet [13:47] only about seventy downloads and about 20 station listeners for the entire day [13:47] Dear Lord: What show? [13:47] The Hellbound Alleee Show, of course [13:48] Oh, are you Alleee? [13:48] Ahhh, you Franc then? [13:48] He he he [13:48] hahha [13:48] I'm Franc [13:48] You talked about your wife... [13:48] yeah. [13:48] so I guessed you were Franc... LOL! [13:48] Yea [13:48] Do you do the Hellbound Aleee blog, I assume? [13:48] I could be a lesbian [13:48] No, that's my wife. [13:48] oh, she wrote a post on my blog [13:48] Hellbound Alleee is also her nickname, you see. [13:49] No... I know it's you and Allee together... Both your voices are on the radio show... [13:49] Oh yes. But her voice is much better than mine. [13:49] People tell me I sound like a wounded frog. [13:50] Well... You are from Quebec, aren't you? [13:50] Yea. [13:50] ;) Just kidding... [13:50] A class mate of mine [13:50] from highschool [13:50] transfered from quebec. [13:51] yea ? [13:51] by the way Non-Prophets [13:51] Some of his friends joking called him frogy... [13:51] we read a paragraph from that professor guy's article [13:51] Shortell [13:51] great article he wrote [13:51] Indefual : yes well, that's kinda considered a slur. [13:51] I know... I never use it... [13:51] Just kidding... [13:51] Indefual : I really don't care. [13:52] good. [13:52] connect to http://nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000, see if it's streaming [13:52] you shouldn't hear much of anything [13:52] Indefual : I don't expect anyone to respect me, I just want them to shut up and listen. ;) [13:52] but it should be up instead of down [13:52] hahah [13:52] http://nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls [13:52] the link you gave brings up the status screen [13:53] sorry, I mean open it in winamp [13:53] nah... Foobar2000 all the way: http://www.foobar2000.com/ [13:53] what's foobar [13:53] made by one of the original WinAmp authors... Before Winamp went down hill [13:53] Audio Player... [13:53] Does not play video. [13:53] Just audio. [13:54] under the "keep it simply, stupid!" design strategy. [13:54] I use jetaudio [13:54] ie: it was ONE visulization. [13:54] it plays videos too.é [13:54] nope [13:54] ? [13:54] Just audio [13:54] Non-Prophets: I think I heard a HELLO [13:54] but it's streaming. [13:55] no I mean JetAudio plays videos too. [13:55] ok thanks [13:55] Now it's all up to Freethought Radio [13:55] * bnem has joined #atheist_network [13:55] hope they get us [13:55] I like to have lots of specialized applications, that do things well. Not one mega application that only does things OKAY. Winamp is actually pretty good in this regard. [13:56] Mostly agree [13:56] that's why I just switched to Thunderbird from Outlook [13:57] I switched to Thunderbird too. [13:57] Great Bayesian filter. [13:57] Yeah, I had SpamBayes on Outlook [13:57] but it started running slower and slower [13:57] so it would freeze up for like 5 minutes when I start [13:58] crazy [13:58] music starting now... [13:58] I'm going to try to listen to this live show [13:58] I'm getting nothing... yet... from http://nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls [13:59] It lags by about 2 minutes [13:59] and the freethough radio feed isn't responding any more. [13:59] the real question is what is about to happen to FTR [13:59] :( [13:59] yes, it works [13:59] I'm hearting music [13:59] at ftr? [13:59] hearing [13:59] at the URL that Indefual gave [14:00] ahh there's the sound [14:00] But freethought gives: Windows Media Player (which sucks anyway) gave an unknown error. [14:00] Oh well. [14:00] there are multiple feeds [14:00] if you go to "how to listen" [14:00] there is actually a winamp stream to try [14:00] geesh [14:01] I use xmms [14:01] ah, I hear people [14:01] * Iceflame has joined #atheist_network [14:01] I'm hearing a show definitely [14:01] June 18th [14:02] Yes, I'm not worried about our stream [14:02] * Iceflame is now known as IceflamePhoenix [14:02] I'd like to know what's playing at freethoughtradio.com [14:02] The Feed: http://nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls [14:02] eh oh [14:03] * Dealic has joined #atheist_network [14:03] hi eveyone [14:03] i just got back from work [14:03] Is anyone able to connect to the feed at www.freethoughtradio.com? Please answer... [14:04] i'm on dail-up, so not much point [14:05] Freethought is playing Jazz [14:05] ew [14:05] umbelievable [14:05] they have been doing this to us too [14:06] Yep, I had to go to the other room, and it didn't work [14:07] have you guys talked about The God Who Wasn't There yet ? [14:07] Not yet, but coming up I'm pretty sure [14:07] I heard that's a good movie too [14:07] Couldn't hear that gay... Matt? What was his name? [14:07] He was too far from the mic... [14:08] * IceflamePhoenix raises an eyebrow [14:08] couldn't heart that gay what? [14:08] hahaha [14:08] I could not hear that guy... [14:08] Who is not Jeff D. criticing the movie. [14:08] freudian slip [14:09] well, he doesn't seem to be criticizing it per se... [14:09] I think atheist movies are still in their infancy. low-budget movies saying the obvious. just like how gay and lesbian movies started [14:09] sorry about that, his mike was messed up [14:09] I just fixed it [14:09] http://www.customflix.com/206725 [14:10] The DVD is now 19.95 [14:10] USD [14:10] which one [14:10] LordofUnbelief - gay/lesbian movies haven't really gone anywhere, unless you keep grounded with really alternative film [14:10] Beholder [14:12] yay, Kelis is on [14:13] Don't listen to that, listen to us :) [14:13] http://nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls [14:13] LOL! [14:13] i have listened to you before, anyways, my dail-up connection would die [14:13] i'm taking a small break from americans [14:14] that's an odd thing to say... how come? [14:14] Ice Flame... [14:14] you were monopolising my time, and ruining my music taste [14:14] NO NO NO... [14:14] heh heh I started listening to some mp3s of some Brits [14:14] Don't let them out of your site... [14:14] we're not "real" Americans at least not according to the religious right [14:14] does that help? [14:14] Non-Prophets: true. [14:15] *sight [14:15] why are you treating me like i'm new? [14:15] How do you treat someone like their are new? [14:15] But we're live now [14:15] Hold their heads so they don't fall off? [14:15] Non-Prophets : I would take that as a compliment [14:15] just because you've heard us before doesn't mean you know what we are talking about today ;) [14:15] correct [14:16] but i'm not really in the mood to listen ;) [14:16] :^( [14:16] ahhh [14:16] yes... [14:16] [14:16] i've had a long day at work, right now i don't want anything that will activate my brain [14:16] Your one of those type who need to 'get in the mood'... ;) [14:16] is it 8pm local time? [14:16] my date last night went very well tyvm [14:16] 8.15pm [14:17] congrats [14:17] A CHRISTIAN ATHEIST ? [14:17] what the hell [14:17] an atheist with christian morals? [14:19] Non-Prophets - not congrats really, it only took three drinks and we were all over each other [14:19] That's not a cause for congrats? [14:19] I'd say you should get confetti for that [14:20] eh, i'm an ex-slut, it's by the by [14:20] Non-Prophets : It's called BLASPHEMY THE MOVIE [14:20] or is that another one [14:21] no, that's th eone [14:21] I liked Saved! [14:22] Indefual : I hated the ending. [14:22] I think Beholder used to be more expensive. [14:22] I know... but still... [14:22] I mean... it was a Christian movie... [14:22] But I still thought it was funny. [14:22] And as for Lesbian movies... "Better than Chocolate" was really good. [14:22] Especially the nude scenes... [14:22] :) [14:23] are you male? [14:23] yup [14:23] :) [14:24] pervert [14:24] Got that right ;) [14:24] Non-Prophets : the last movie they talked about was "Blasphemy The Movie" [14:24] He is, but the movie is mine... As my boyfriend he gets to watch all my lesbian movies... [14:25] Good movies... [14:25] are these lesbian movies or faux lesbian movies? [14:25] real lesbian movies [14:25] you guys switched from the AN ? Cool [14:25] then you're forgiven [14:25] for lesbians, not for straight guys [14:25] AN doesn't deserve anyone's business [14:25] Better than Chocolate was Canadian, too... [14:25] Non-Prophets: oooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh no [14:26] LordofUnbelief - you're in the AN channel, what are you doing? [14:27] Non-Prophets : By the way, if you guys want to be on our station, that'd be cool [14:27] He likes the Non-Prophets, but he diesn't like IG. [14:27] Non-Prophets : we only get about 20 listeners a day, but you know. [14:27] Jeb Bush still wants an investigation of the 911 call when Shivo first collapsed [14:30] "we" who [14:30] Non-Prophets : the station [14:30] bnem: I'm getting to that [14:31] which station? [14:31] Non-Prophets : we also have Otis Fodder's show on our station [14:31] Non-Prophets : Hellbound Alleee [14:31] oh ok [14:31] your own station [14:31] yea [14:31] hey [14:32] How is the Positive Atheism website doing? [14:32] Did FreeThoughtRadio drop live365? [14:32] Indefual : who's in charge of that ? [14:32] I thought you were, franc... [14:32] Maybe I'm wrong. [14:32] Indefual : No, I'm Strong Atheism. [14:32] Indefual : Positive Atheism is a woman named Kimmy something. [14:33] oh... hmm... [14:33] Sorry [14:33] I'm strongatheism.net. [14:34] Did you redo that website in the last year? I don't remember the yello theme... [14:34] *yellow [14:34] yea, we did [14:35] k [14:35] I could hear the hate in "Jeb Bush" [14:35] there [14:35] It was funny [14:40] By the way, that was in my blog [14:40] http://kazimskorner.blogspot.com [14:41] I should add something about Jeb [14:41] I saw your blog over at Atheism Online... [14:41] Yeah I just added it [14:41] Did you submit it your self... I was going to email you to tell to you... [14:41] :) [14:42] yep [14:46] We should make a movie serries "Day of the Liberals [14:47] Liberals don't want to kill people, they just want to regulate people to death [14:47] have a bunch of talk show conservatives trapped in a mall surrounded by Liberals [14:48] sorry LOU, that's bull [14:48] I am a liberal and I don't want to regulate people to death [14:49] Non-Prophets : then you're not a liberal. You're a libertarian. ;) [14:49] No I'm not [14:49] I've heard libertarians talk and I very much disagree with a lot they say [14:49] Non-Prophets : all right [14:49] restarting time, my webcam has been installed [14:50] heh one of the Free Staters tried to board a plane with out ID he got arrested [14:50] Non-Prophets : But I'm not talking about you... just liberals in general [14:50] * IceflamePhoenix has quit IRC (Quit: Fan List: Arken, Stopper, Seg, QoS - i feel *loved*) [14:50] I don't agree about liberals in general either [14:51] I think that is a false stereotype [14:51] Weird. [14:51] indefual, how do you pronounce your screen name [14:51] Well, I'd just invite you to listen to liberals and see for yourself. ;) [14:52] In Deaf Yule [14:52] Indefual : holidays for the handicapped ? ;) [14:52] hahah, not quite... ;) [14:52] Yes! That was it! [14:53] I do listen to liberals [14:53] I have Air America streaming very often at work [14:53] good, good [14:54] FreeThoughtRadio used to broadcast some old audio portions of the show [14:55] They say they still do [14:56] http://www.si.edu/about/history.htm [14:56] (story Jeff is talking about) [14:58] Well [14:58] I am Canadian... [14:58] Indefual : french ? [14:58] no [14:58] Ontario [14:59] Very english part o fit [14:59] *of it [14:59] don't worry, I correct his english all the time thoug... [14:59] LordofUnbelief: are you guys neighbors? [14:59] bnem : me and who ? [15:00] Indefual: [15:00] Different provinces... [15:00] I live in Quebec [15:07] I'm against parenting, personally [15:09] Then who will look after the children? [15:09] Indefual : well, that's an epinous question now is it. [15:10] Indefual : we already have child care centers. I could see something permanent made out of it. [15:11] Matt I felt the same thing when I heard Teddy Roosevelt recordings. [15:11] Wait--LOU: Sounds like your inching toward socialism... Would you need to be a liberal tax & spend government and strict laws to enforce? [15:12] Indefual : Hee hee... I don't think it's socialist any more than taking care of people who are mentally handicapped. It's just a fact of living in society. [15:13] Then you haven't talked to Republicans in the US [15:13] Indefual : I do think the government should be involved as least as possible, of course, being a libertarian. [15:13] My GOD, they want to steal our KIDS!!!!!!!! [15:13] So, you don't think that should be manditory? [15:13] Indefual : Liberals would make a giant institution out of it, fighting over what religion to teach them, what to feed them, and so on. [15:13] Indefual : Well, I don't have any objection to have competent parents being permitted to raise their own children [15:14] Again I would say BS, but I don't have time to argue as I am trying to participate in the show [15:14] wait... permitted? [15:14] Non-Prophets: there is more than just Liberal/Conservative... [15:14] Besides [15:14] Both the democrats and the republicans are rigth wing. [15:14] How do we decide to his permitted to keep their children or not? [15:14] Indefual : Hate them both, honestly. [15:15] LoU: True. [15:15] Ah, then you hate me. Nice to know :) [15:15] I miss my Impulse script for mIRC. [15:15] What about Dr Dean. [15:15] hahah 'hate' is perhaps too strong a word... [15:15] Non-Prophets : Nah, I'm sure you're a nice person. [15:15] Except for my satanic rituals :) [15:15] bwahahahahaaaaaaaaaa [15:15] haha [15:15] Non-Prophets : As we explained on our RESPECT shows, we don't hate people personally. So many people take it personally when you don't respect their beliefs. [15:15] but other than human sacrifice, I'm nice [15:16] Too bad Neutron Jack and Rude Boy aren't here. [15:16] This is a pretty live channel today. [15:16] There is a difference between not respecting and "hating" [15:16] We hate people insofar as they are believers. Most people are actually pretty nice, despite their beliefs. [15:16] but not respecting is so.... disrespectful :P [15:16] Non-Prophets : for many people, there's no difference.. which is the problem [15:16] LOL [15:16] FTR, I don't believe in "respecting beliefs" either [15:16] Non-Prophets : Great ! [15:17] Non-Prophets : Then we're on the same page. [15:17] But I happen to think your perspective on what liberalism is, is a bit of a straw man [15:17] * Dealic has left #atheist_network [15:17] But that's ok, no time to discuss it right now [15:17] * Dealic has joined #atheist_network [15:17] Maybe in email or something [15:17] Non-Prophets : I think the same about you. So... ;) [15:18] I haven't even told you anything I think about those things, so you don't know whether they're a straw man yet [15:18] I thought you said you disagreed with my position about liberals and regulations. [15:18] And so I do [15:18] Anyway. Yea, I'd like to talk to you after the show, about getting your show on our station [15:19] Send an email to rglasser@apollowebworks.com [15:19] Oh ok. Leaving soon then ? [15:19] I'm not sure we can do that without riling up some people at Freethought Radio [15:19] hmmm. [15:19] show's over in 10 minutes [15:19] Yea, FTR is pretty jealous of their shows. [15:20] On the other hand, they don't seem to mind that we put our shows on our station. [15:20] I thought Jeff was the "angry" one of the group :) [15:20] haha [15:20] yea [15:21] btw, if anyone here is new to the show... [15:22] http://www.atheist-community.org/radioshow [15:22] Jeff: You should read soem Robert J. Sawyer... His knew book 'Mindscan' is about uploading yourself to a computer. [15:22] But most of his books touch on it. :) [15:25] yay, my email ! [15:25] (^________^) [15:26] didn't really find much so far, but I'll try again [15:26] Well we're wrapping up [15:26] Thanks for listening everyone [15:27] bye then [15:27] I'll send you an email [15:27] ok [15:27] Bye [15:27] bye Non-Prophets [15:27] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat Jun 18 15:27:17 2005