Session Start: Sat Oct 23 12:28:14 2010 Session Ident: #nonprophets [12:28] * Now talking in #nonprophets [12:28] * Topic is 'The Non-Prophets will be live Saturday the 23rd, 2010 from 2pm CST, 8pm UTC. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for information on live shows, hiatus and more.' [12:28] * Set by debdrup!debdrup@nerdheaven.ws on Sat Oct 23 03:30:32 [12:28] -> *nickserv* identify freeyermind [12:29] -> *nickserv* identify freeyermind [12:32] SubTachyon, i think that's at the same time as the show [12:36] unless I totally heard the wrong time... thought it was at 3pm EDT [12:38] Sigh. Oh well the NP have priority. [12:41] * Microbiologychick has joined #nonprophets [12:42] * mond has joined #nonprophets [12:44] I'm new to both, but I found NP first... so that's my priority [12:47] UTC isn't a timezone [12:47] Coordinated Universal Time [12:47] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utc [12:48] Is everyone excited about finally getting a podcast today? [12:48] Well that at least explains why it's based on a timezone where absolutely nobody lives. [12:48] No. We hate it. [12:48] It's like with the scientific roots of the metric system and using body parts to measure things [12:49] * jmp has joined #nonprophets [12:49] UTC = WET-1. A deadzone. [12:50] It'd be more accurate to say that the timezones are based off of UTC [12:50] I am not trying to imply anything. [12:51] Your existence implies that you indeed live somewhere on this planet [12:51] And you probably breathe oxygen [12:52] Or you have a bitchin wireless connection [12:52] Oh another standard creationist argument. Just because you never saw someone who does not live on the planet you have to assume that I live on this planet. What's next? I must be designed too? [12:53] Tsk, tsk. [12:54] OK...I'm busy setting stuff up and making sure everything works...so I'm AFK (No surprise there). Our special guest is having phone problems and won't be able to make it...but we'll be OK [12:55] Hey, I did include the possibility of interplanetary wireless connections [12:55] For those who didn't know, it was going to be Leo Behe (Michael Behe's atheist son). We'll try to have him on some other time. I also have a list of other guests from the Texas Freethought Convention who have agreed to come on at some time (George Hrab, Abigail Smith, Darrel Ray, John Loftus and others...) [12:56] What he has an atheist son? Wait. That's not surprising at all. [12:57] Maybe he's actually just a spitehist [12:57] Atheist out of spite [12:57] He's an atheist just because he wants to sin! [12:57] Just like the rest of us [12:58] To be fair, sinning is fun [12:58] Well, it's fun to do stuff [12:59] The fact that it may be a sin is a bonus [13:00] Speaking of sin, I'm gonna go play New Vegas till the show's about to start [13:02] Stream should be setup in about 2 minutes....and playing music. Will need people to verify [13:02] It's actually up now and playing music. I see one person connected, need more to verify [13:02] And then I'm going to have to reboot [13:04] works for me. i hear music. [13:05] I am gonna punch your fat head in [13:06] OK, I need to take the stream down and reboot and then I'll put it back up. Thanks for the feedback Session Start: Sat Oct 23 13:10:15 2010 Session Ident: #nonprophets [13:10] * Now talking in #nonprophets [13:10] * Topic is 'The Non-Prophets will be live Saturday the 23rd, 2010 from 2pm CST, 8pm UTC. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for information on live shows, hiatus and more.' [13:10] * Set by debdrup!debdrup@nerdheaven.ws on Sat Oct 23 03:30:32 [13:11] OK, the stream should be set up again and I don't think I'll need any more reboots [13:11] !OPME [13:11] Yes I can hear it. [13:11] !OP [13:11] doh [13:11] But I prefer listening to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ai4Ayu5TB4 [13:16] works fine here [13:22] * mond has joined #nonprophets [13:30] * lynneadally has joined #nonprophets [13:30] * lynneadally is now known as EEAtheist [13:32] * RayNet has joined #nonprophets [13:32] i really hope i didnt miss this historical event [13:33] * ChristOnIce has joined #nonprophets [13:34] Show starts in 30 minutes [13:35] w00t [13:35] * JonnyMohawk has joined #nonprophets [13:36] * ingsve has joined #nonprophets [13:39] * hamax has joined #nonprophets [13:39] * Aaronfromalbany has joined #nonprophets [13:40] This is my first time on can somone confirm its live? [13:41] It's live [13:41] You should be hearing music on the stream [13:41] still alive [13:41] there is some cake [13:41] Show starts in about 20 min [13:41] * Kazim has joined #nonprophets [13:41] Hey youse guys [13:41] sweet thanks....i am hearing the music [13:41] Oh look, Ken Ham is here [13:41] Hey [13:41] cake? [13:41] Don't you have a them park to run, Ken? [13:41] theme [13:42] I'm busy writing a new blog post about That Evil Professor riding my dino [13:42] and sitting on the stream to see what you evil people are going to get up to today! [13:42] Go get him! [13:43] * KenHam strokes his beard [13:44] It's a shame that the debate between Thunderf00t and DLandonCole is at the same time as the NPs. [13:45] Anybody have any news stories you're dying to hear covered? :) [13:46] surely you guys have the Dembski news about him recanting and professing his YECness, right? [13:46] You mean from the past half a year? [13:46] (although there's some debate on 'inerrant' vs. 'literalist' on AtBC) [13:46] Kazim, I'm waiting to hear all the talk about the holiday today [13:46] the Earth is 6013 years old [13:46] Christine O'Donnell? [13:46] hahaha [13:47] Already got that one [13:47] both of them actually [13:47] oh, right, I forgot PZ linked it [13:48] * mathmexican has joined #nonprophets [13:48] Ill look through my facebook wallposts thats where my rants are. [13:48] Oh I know! [13:48] @Kazim: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11559883 [13:49] She is the same woman that was excommunicated from the church for reporting a pedophile priest to the authorities. Oh the irony. [13:49] * mathmexican has left #nonprophets [13:49] * mathmexican has joined #nonprophets [13:49] * Pombolo has joined #nonprophets [13:49] * Luvenstein has joined #nonprophets [13:49] Hitchens has a debate with Tony Blair this Tuesday although that's irrelevant at the moment. [13:50] Christin O"donnell is against masterbation but yet i seen her on tv wearing a pearl necklace. oh yeah! [13:52] tbh, O'Donnell is so far down in the polls, she's irrelevant, and I think she's a distraction from closer races [13:52] a train wreck to be sure, but while so much effort is focused on her, people are ignoring serious areas [13:53] well, senate seats are fairly serious, but for a while it's been known she has no chance so we shoudl stop focusing on her [13:53] Hello fellow atheists, tis a glorious day. :) [13:54] yes indeedly! [13:55] I was wondering when the non prophets would come back :] [13:55] Luvenstein: but cold [13:55] Indeed [13:55] had to switch to studded winter tires yesterday as it was -5C [13:56] Where are you at Ray? [13:57] * KenHam makes a prediction: the super secret guest will be Ray Comfort [13:57] * Kazim has quit IRC (Broken pipe) [13:57] * Luvenstein jumps up in glee [13:57] I would love it, but probably not [13:58] * Kazim has joined #nonprophets [13:58] Yeah, about that... I'm sorry but the guest couldn't make it on the phone today [13:58] awww [13:58] Good thing I hedged so much in my post. [13:58] that's ok, you're playing Concrete Blonde now, so that makes up for it :) [13:58] JonnyMohawk: FInland [13:58] (almost) [13:58] I hear music, how long has this been playing for? [13:59] for about an hour [13:59] about an hourish [13:59] JonnyMohawk: enjoying the mass flee from church [13:59] * KennethDolan has joined #nonprophets [13:59] jmp: Oh [13:59] * Atomik has joined #nonprophets [13:59] hello [13:59] Hey [14:00] so glad to have the NP back! [14:00] Show is starting.... [14:01] w00t [14:01] * Rensin has joined #nonprophets [14:01] * Luvenstein pumps his fist [14:01] yaya [14:01] YAY, DENIS! [14:01] * mclan70 has joined #nonprophets [14:02] * pghatheist has joined #nonprophets [14:02] like music to my ears [14:02] lol good song choice [14:02] Another Denis introduction coming up! [14:02] nice intro :) [14:02] Shame on you, Matt [14:02] thats awesome [14:04] Lazy... just lazy [14:04] ;) [14:04] * Mr has joined #nonprophets [14:04] .. anyone else cant hear stuff [14:04] I'm fine [14:04] I hear it. Try reloading the stream? [14:05] its back.. weird, cut off like ten seconds [14:05] sound-wise anyway [14:05] word [14:05] not cut of again.. hm, gotta fix [14:05] now* [14:05] Yeah it keeps cutting out [14:05] Maybe it's your bandwidth. [14:05] I am on the restream try http://66.228.123.40:8000/listen.pls [14:05] Probably whoever is hosting's bandwidth [14:06] * KennethDolan has quit IRC (KennethDolan) [14:06] k that one working better, ill stick with that for now [14:06] * Owner has joined #nonprophets [14:06] secular decade, good luck [14:06] * Owner has quit IRC (Owner) [14:07] * KennethDolan has joined #nonprophets [14:08] face it, you can't win [14:08] * ingsve has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.11/20101012113537]) [14:09] * ChristOnIce has quit IRC (ChristOnIce) [14:09] * ChristOnIce_ has joined #nonprophets [14:09] * ChristOnIce_ is now known as ChristOnIce [14:10] oooh, that should be brilliant [14:10] * frak77 has joined #nonprophets [14:11] * lucidmortal has joined #nonprophets [14:11] * Kittykathryn has joined #nonprophets [14:11] Definitely [14:11] pfft, GOD wrote it in microcode for our heart chips. [14:12] * Uhmu45 has joined #nonprophets [14:12] I vote use that opener verbatim [14:12] * Luvenstein can not comput..... error code #666 [14:12] * NeutronJack has joined #nonprophets [14:13] thank god this show is back!! [14:13] Live NP!!! [14:13] who? [14:13] * debdrup sets mode: +o Non-Prophets [14:13] estonia loves npr [14:13] KenHam: fortunately i have intel chipset and the microcode can be updated while it is running [14:13] ..crap, I forgot about the show. [14:14] I guess I'll catch the podcast then.. I wonder if I got any shoutouts.. [14:14] and Jeff. [14:14] Its only 15 mins into the show. just catchup stuff so far. [14:14] * misanthropic_joy has joined #nonprophets [14:14] Oh, okay. [14:14] You've only missed a few minutes deb [14:15] lag again :[ [14:15] how is teh restream? [14:15] Oh yes, and Jeff! [14:15] Hey debdrup! [14:15] sorry [14:15] restream is fine http://66.228.123.40:8000/listen.pls [14:15] JonnyMohawk: dunno the second, the first has been solid [14:15] i wanted to listen the thunderfoot dlandcole but if npr is back then fuck thunderfoot [14:15] Hi Microbiologychick! :) [14:15] i hope TF gets back to his proper roots [14:15] Just dopped in to tell you guys how great it is to hear you live again! :))) [14:16] Microbiologychick: did I get a shoutout for keeping the channel alive? :P [14:16] Happy Happy! [14:16] I could make it so... [14:16] * modmasters has joined #nonprophets [14:16] aha thats why npr is back midterms are comming !! =D [14:16] * misanthropic_joy has quit IRC (misanthropic_joy) [14:16] Microbiologychick: if you think I deserve it.. [14:17] Any candidates edit the questionnaire this time? [14:17] The thing about these questionaires is that the wording is always suspect. [14:17] * Scott has joined #nonprophets [14:17] cowardly [14:18] The cat has wandered into the room to see what the hell is going on. :) [14:18] Politicians won't commit, ever. [14:18] Microbiologychick: give scratches to the kitty! [14:19] When are they going to announce the nonprophets naked calendar for charity? [14:19] Kitty without scratches = good. Kitty with scratches = better. [14:19] ohgawd please dont tease me! [14:19] I'm eating little jelly brains. Just thought I'd share. [14:20] heh [14:20] * Aaronfromalbany has quit IRC (Aaronfromalbany) [14:20] He's entitled to his opinion, no matter how stupid it is. [14:20] BRAINS! [14:20] Grains? [14:20] yay christina odonell bashing! [14:21] that was hilarious [14:21] funny to mention brains along with christine odonnel [14:21] The not-a-witch politician. [14:21] see, that seperation denial only flies at Tea Party rallyies [14:22] Wait, what?! [14:22] not law schools [14:22] Has she -read- the constitution? [14:22] Even -I- know that, and I'm Danish [14:22] the relevant video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-8kAVwO3ZA [14:22] No more than she's read the bible, I imagine. [14:22] The reason is she's stupid. [14:22] * mythosbuster has joined #nonprophets [14:23] * Salty914 has joined #nonprophets [14:23] and reinforced by court precedent over and over [14:23] Well, lets not jump to conclusion [14:23] pghatheist: yeah, it's grandfathered at this point. [14:23] She could be a moron, a dimwit, etc [14:23] Similarly, the word "trinity" doesn't appear in the bible. [14:23] NeutronJack: almost no english words appear in the bible :) [14:24] I don't know, I think she's remotely competent, I mean she got to the event [14:24] that implies a basic level of competence [14:24] that was sarcasm [14:24] Is it in the constitution that the Supreme Court gets to decide constitutionality? I thought that that was a power that they just sort of took for themselves. [14:24] * Luvenstein has left #nonprophets [14:24] * Rensin1 has joined #nonprophets [14:24] pghatheist: you mean she can follow directions of less than 10 words at a time (GPS - provided she didn't get driven there) [14:24] yes [14:25] Mine says "Some Chicks marry chicks. Get over it." [14:25] mice can't do that [14:25] That doesn't constitute competence. [14:25] NJ, it was initially questionably, but Marbury v Madison set the precedent for the extent of judicial review [14:25] Mice can be trained to walk through a maze. [14:25] well, as far as sarcasm goes it does [14:25] No, it doesn't. [14:25] questionable, rather [14:25] Lo ChristOnIce. [14:25] I love those FCKH8 shirts [14:25] * Rensin has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [14:26] I prefer to fuck things which fuck back. [14:26] I give up [14:26] 100% to everything matt just said [14:26] hah [14:26] yeah, we know it's bullshit [14:27] and mice [14:27] I'm in the process of reading all the major religious texts. [14:27] * Wonder_Weirdo has joined #nonprophets [14:27] Catholics (at least the ones I know) canot quote a single bible verse [14:27] Sounds like perfectly good catholics [14:27] Catholics aren't encouraged to read the bible as far as I know [14:28] They have people to do that for them. [14:28] * lucidmortal has quit IRC (lucidmortal) [14:28] they're not because they're encouraged to take the Pope's word for everything [14:28] I was Catholic, and I think there's a correlation to the use of alcohol. [14:28] lol @ W_W [14:28] Reading the the bible, qu'ran, torah, the buddhistic texts, the confusionism, the shinto texts and so on.. [14:29] For catholics is seems to be more about dogma than the book. [14:29] I'm trying to read the bible [14:29] well, not lately, I'm resting [14:29] it's hard, like crazy weird and boring [14:29] its in a difficult language [14:29] many Catholic beliefs are not based in the Bible even by a longshot [14:29] * CircuitEngie has joined #nonprophets [14:29] its like shakespeare without the eloquence [14:30] usually those words are hard to get into a single description [14:30] haha [14:30] * CircuitEngie has left #nonprophets [14:30] or the right one [14:31] at least with protestantism, they're encouraged to study their faith [14:31] So to get parishoners to become more devoted, they should be discouraged from reading the bible? [14:31] essentially, yes [14:31] Explains the dumbing down of America [14:31] more like, to trust the church to shepherd them [14:31] not neessaily discouraged from reading it, but discouraged from interpreting it [14:31] brr [14:32] * mauro has joined #nonprophets [14:32] you need the voice of god in your head to properly interpret it! [14:32] * aetnaeus has joined #nonprophets [14:32] and God apparently tells every Protestant a different interpretation lol [14:33] happy birthday to you! [14:33] did it start? [14:33] yes, its going on now [14:33] 'Twas my 25th birthday two days ago. [14:33] thanks [14:33] 6013 [14:33] Ah, happy birthday creationist world! [14:34] it was mine 22 years ago deb [14:34] * mauro has quit IRC (mauro) [14:34] The only true christian variety is WBC-ism. Phelps himself said so, and I trust him on theological issues. [14:34] Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Sure, Catholics follow the bible quite closely. :-) [14:34] No, today isn't light-day - it's been raining all day. [14:34] around tea time [14:35] Catholics whip out the old trick for that verse- "Well, it's not supposed to be taken LITERALLY"/ [14:35] * Scott has quit IRC (Scott) [14:35] haha that's my dad [14:35] who's the steam powered arm? [14:36] oh holy cow, Salty914 ! [14:36] haha hi there [14:36] this was you? http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/related/dngag/iama_son_of_michael_behe_the_catholic_biochemist/ [14:36] it was indeed, if you can trust me [14:36] thanks for doing that, the entire post was really informative <3 [14:36] He is the guest I mentioned, but his phone isn't working. :( [14:36] no problem :) [14:36] I'll vouch for his authenticity. [14:37] And I gave the shout out to your dad on purpose. [14:37] yeah my phone should be working by tomorrow [14:37] thanks for that:) [14:37] hey we are the asshats [14:37] His phone is not very intelligently designed... [14:37] Drink! [14:38] done [14:38] ooh, I should make some kamikazes [14:38] =/ must have been God's day off [14:38] Haha I like the unprofessional manner in which the episodes are done [14:38] Microbiologychick: was that you in the background? Why aren't you on mic?! [14:38] settled prayer lead at school a LONG time ago [14:38] It's me. We only have 3 mics. [14:39] Aw. [14:39] use force to get a mic [14:39] You need more mics. [14:39] physically wrest a mic from someone [14:39] They're all boring. [14:39] lol [14:39] I agree [14:40] I see, you were talking about "handegg" [14:40] <-- loves NFL football, so fuck y'all [14:40] Matt's a football agnostic. [14:40] lol [14:40] Soccer aka "the beautiful game" [14:40] CFL? [14:40] hey some ppl are from europe here [14:41] done use that mad word [14:41] <-- from sweden [14:41] its insulting [14:41] barf [14:41] that's ridiculous [14:41] what [14:41] * Atomik has quit IRC (Atomik) [14:41] football and foodball, both are silly and boring games, curling is much much better [14:41] they're just trying to dance around the ruling [14:41] and snooker! [14:41] going out and praying on the field [14:41] Ray you don't have to choose. Both are wassum [14:41] I love snooker! [14:41] why stop at curling? darts and bowling are the real sports! [14:41] yeah, but these are people who can't comprehend the establishment clause [14:42] British lounge sports <3 [14:42] haha [14:42] noone expects the football inquisition! [14:42] *no one [14:42] Watching sports--really. [14:42] Why do they pray at sport games in the first place? [14:42] because sports are for god [14:42] why do they pray anywhere? [14:43] I always thought it was amusing that they assume the other team wasn't praying just as hard [14:43] but god loves them more [14:43] So it's really just a prayer-off [14:43] each one thinks they're more sincere than the other guy [14:43] it depends on who has tithed the most [14:44] in Catholicism it definitely does! [14:44] Yeah, god's up in heaven beating the shit out of himself like Ed Norton in "Fight Club" [14:44] Praying in sports cartoon: http://www.atheistcartoons.com/ [14:44] If God decides sports, then the pope should get in to bookmaking [14:44] Fight Club is an excellent film [14:44] wresting [14:44] * mclan70 has quit IRC (mclan70) [14:44] Are those the comics that Tracie Harris doeS? [14:44] pghatheist: the first rule of Catholicism is that you don't talk about Catholicism? [14:44] lol @ Ray [14:44] Mr: No, I don't think so. [14:45] lovely voice. she should do all the other news [14:45] Tracie does Atheist Eve, doesn't she? [14:45] The first rule of Catholicism is don't read the rules of Catholicism [14:45] You nailed it, pgh [14:45] haha [14:45] The worst rule of Catholicism... It goes on as long as it has to, [14:46] Thats one heck of an accent you ahve there. Love it. :) [14:46] hey, eggs works for both sexes! [14:46] Microbiologychick: your cadance suddenly went to a very southern drawl there.. :D [14:46] Atheists will seem like the ones "imposing" as long as they're the minority... incorrect, but sadly true [14:46] Oh no... [14:46] It ways on TYT: [14:46] war on x mas [14:47] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZXFgJkD_q4 [14:47] ^ Linkage [14:47] It just occured to me: Isn't religious people like smokers? You try and tell them not to blow smoke in your face, and they start screaming about their rights [14:47] Mobilize! It's the war!!! [14:47] ... Coctopus did a rant on the christmas movie [14:47] stephen baldwin's lack of intelligence makes me cry [14:47] someone made a video about that in yt [14:47] zomgits? [14:47] how can stephen and alec be related? [14:47] No, Ken, they're like non-smokers. It is not enough that they have their choice, they demand that you follow suit [14:48] KennethDolan: does that mean that we can put theists into a separate room when the begin talking about god? [14:48] * mythosbuster has quit IRC (mythosbuster) [14:48] that movie will be worth seeing just for the comedy value [14:48] Tommy Wiseau would be proud [14:48] When someone says "Merry Christmas" to me I say "Isn't that the 25th? It's (insert date here)..." [14:49] ah yes, my dad was featured in the trailer for Ben Stein's movie a while ago [14:49] * Christian has joined #nonprophets [14:50] Chronos is an OP hero. [14:50] So has anyone here gotten the new book by Ray Comfort? I received my book a while ago. [14:50] The implications of accepting the Pentateuch as literal and infallible are disastrous [14:50] I have too many books on my to read list that I -want- to read to put one that I don't on there. :) [14:50] you supported comfort by buying his book? [14:51] Superman is JUST AS REAL as Batman. [14:51] modmasters: it's free for atheists "because it WILL convert them" [14:51] I'll shoplift one when I get the chance. Kidding. [14:51] NICE [14:51] I got mine, but I don't want to read it. Matt has thumbed through it, and says it's the same old shit. [14:51] will he mail it to canada? [14:52] Microbiologychick: that's what I arrived at as well. [14:52] Kittykathryn: he mailed it to Denmark, so I'm pretty sure he will. [14:52] But there are new, robust arguments addressing belief, why doesn't Ray use them? He should ask John Shook. [14:52] cool [14:52] So this guy prefers an ancient, unreliable book to centures of scientific research... not much to debate with him, really [14:52] Certainly--Egypt existed. [14:53] Stuff happened, that's for sure. [14:53] haha nice one Jack [14:53] * lucidmortal has joined #nonprophets [14:53] "The world is full--of history" Ted, Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure [14:54] don't tase the cross onto my face, bro [14:54] Plausibility != Reality [14:54] BRANDING HIS STUDENTS WITH CROSSES?! [14:54] WHAT THE FUCKING HELL [14:54] ... [14:54] seriously? [14:54] And the Judge said "Hang 'im" I hope [14:54] That water didn't sound so fresh =P [14:54] I think he branded them with a compass that he stretched into a cross-like shape... not that that changes the harm.. lol [14:54] wow... [14:55] KennethDolan: ba-dum-tsch. [14:55] thanks for the follow-up on that, guys (and girl) [14:55] Piss me Matt [14:55] *takes bow* [14:55] It's sad that the story doesn't really surprise me [14:55] Atta boy, Matt - piss people off. [14:55] no it isent [14:56] It's more of a social discrimination than a legal one when comparing atheists to gays [14:56] I think I remember Jen Peeples saying that coming out as an atheist was harder then coming out as gay [14:56]