Session Start: Sat May 02 13:50:30 2009 Session Ident: #nonprophets [13:50] * Now talking in #nonprophets [13:50] * Topic is 'The Non-Prophets are LIVE at http://www.nonprophetsradio.com. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for show information.' [13:50] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Apr 25 15:12:29 [13:50] * ChanServ sets mode: +qo Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [13:50] Loki: I would love to expand the atheist club beyond just college kids. We should talk. [13:50] no finally [13:50] They're an end days cult, but one that really brainwashes their followers, cut themselves off from the outside world and all that shit... [13:50] cutting it a bit fine there guys [13:50] 10 minutes to air [13:51] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! [13:51] did any of you guys see the reverend wright / trinity church website before they cleaned it up? [13:51] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information!' [13:51] that thing was wild [13:51] Oh. is house of Yahweh that weird guy ? his followers live out in the desert? he sleeps with young girls? [13:51] it was almost timecube-esque [13:51] geez. even when I was a DJ I always arrived 30 minutes ahead of shift. naughty [13:51] with horrible flash animation [13:51] lol [13:51] haha [13:51] ten minutes, I gotta run to the corner store first, brb............. [13:51] get me some beer [13:52] Shamar is going on a beer run [13:52] heh [13:52] omg its gonna share soon OOOOOOOOOH EEEEEEMMMMMMMM GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe! [13:52] which becomes a beer haul [13:52] get it... [13:52] haul .... [13:52] start fuck lol I cant type [13:52] lol [13:52] ah fuck it [13:52] never again that much food [13:52] I cant connect to any streams... [13:52] microbiologychick: Indeed! I don't know many atheists. Family very fundamental. Friends mostly just agnostic. [13:52] I honestly don't understand the appeal of beer. I know that's heresy, but yeah [13:53] * DorisES has joined #nonprophets [13:53] beer sucks [13:53] i can't understand beer either [13:53] though cider... [13:53] I like wine and tequila too. rum rarely [13:53] only atheists I know are the ones I argued into atheism [13:53] Loki: etsuatheists at gmail [13:53] I'm very much not a beer person. [13:53] Im into the girly drinks myself [13:53] if you eat a lot of sugar it fucks your palet for bitter tasting foods [13:53] including beer [13:53] Oh, I like bitter foods [13:53] cut back on the suger [13:53] just not beer [13:53] Some microbrews... man are they delicious [13:53] sugar = bad [13:53] dos equis is so good [13:53] is the feed up? [13:53] sugar is not bad, don't throw out pseudoscience [13:54] mexican beer for the win [13:54] please don't abbreviate "is" with = [13:54] Not yet. [13:54] * xen needs to test if any program here opens it [13:54] it is very annoying for a mathematician [13:54] * rudeboy is drinking Dos Equis Amber [13:54] and a programmer [13:54] microbiologychick: i'll send you a message. Thanks! [13:54] use '==' [13:54] I'm thinking I may retire to Oregon just to have access to the microbrews [13:54] is drinking cofee... i like my coffee like my women... short, dark and BITTER [13:54] haha [13:54] I retired in Oregon. GOt a flat on the I - 5 [13:54] use not black, scorched and ground up? [13:55] rofl eoneil [13:55] lol [13:55] * rudeboy considers the pile of off jokes [13:55] ha [13:55] I love ground up women. [13:55] lol [13:55] and boiled [13:55] mmm... boiled women, tasty [13:55] huuuuum boiled womenbits [13:55] i like women who LOOK GOOD from the "ground up"... [13:55] i like my women how i like my whiskey. oh never mind [13:55] hahahaha [13:55] I know the rest of that one [13:56] * Quo has joined #nonprophets [13:56] sadly, I can't ship beer into PA without a license [13:56] I like my women dead but still warm [13:56] that sucks [13:56] Black, instant and tasty? [13:56] yikes [13:56] please enlighten use, because while I suspect I know it, I can't recall the rest [13:56] what, PA has beer issues? [13:56] 12 year old and mixed with coke [13:56] ohhhh [13:56] mannnn [13:56] ewww [13:56] haha [13:56] haha [13:56] :') [13:56] you will NEVER meet my daughters [13:56] lol [13:56] i like the active ingredient in my women, but not the women themselves [13:56] Someone start the stream, please! This channel's going to the gutter. [13:56] are there actually any women in this chat? [13:57] orthotryclin? [13:57] going to...? [13:57] and what's wrong with that, exactly? [13:57] where've you ben? [13:57] micro is [13:57] * Urion has joined #nonprophets [13:57] oh so all the sudden theres a goal [13:57] don't know about anyone else [13:57] I've been reading for the past hour, this channel has been out of the gutter. [13:57] we can lower this to the gutter [13:57] perhaps further [13:57] uggh [13:57] i am 99.95% "woman free" [13:57] glrgh [13:57] My point exactly. [13:57] I threw it into the gutter just dropping in here [13:58] hm. still no stream yet [13:58] Nope. [13:58] we should have questions prepared in case they ask [13:58] may the stream be with us [13:58] so it's not like two weeks ago [13:58] how long [13:58] ? [13:58] hey, Non-Prophets, turn on the Victrola. We're getting naughty in here. [13:58] not only no stream, seems like "nonprophets.gotdns.org" is dead [13:59] the stream was with me earlier, but it left on a coastal tour .... [13:59] Maybe Matt's sleeping in [13:59] Yeah, it's not dead static, it's nothing [13:59] won't load at all [13:59] I'm back :-) [13:59] * rudeboy ponders the length and breadth of that joke [14:00] I'm pondering how I can connect it to the gutter [14:00] I'm pondering water ... [14:00] I wonder if Russell will show up this week [14:00] Stream! [14:00] it's me... i tuned in to the webcast for the first time last week... no picture... now here... no stream... it's me [14:00] maybe np wants us to get naughty [14:00] I have stream [14:00] Feed's up. [14:00] whats wrong with being in the gutter huh are you some sort sort of anti-gutter elitist! [14:00] thank you micro [14:00] yay [14:01] Denis! [14:01] kind of [14:01] and Russel [14:01] thanks for the update [14:01] * Urion has quit IRC (Client exited) [14:01] wooo HOOO [14:01] WOLOLO [14:01] People. [14:01] stream link? [14:01] Noise [14:01] Sound. [14:01] here we go [14:01] Thank god. [14:01] happy go lucky! [14:01] I mean..uh.. [14:01] sounds good so far [14:01] *Claps his hand to his mouth*. [14:01] Testing one two Shilling [14:01] Tori! [14:01] "God sometimes you just don't come through"? [14:01] hurry the hell up, i'm down to 3 smokes here [14:01] tori! [14:02] * Pombolo has joined #nonprophets [14:02] I tori myself a good one [14:02] hum [14:02] ..and gone again. [14:02] cant hear shit [14:02] D: [14:02] * Uuugggg has joined #nonprophets [14:02] i can't hear anyting. [14:02] stream is running so you're fine [14:02] Nor can I [14:02] But it was just working [14:02] How do I get it to play? My comp tries to play it with wmplayer, but it won't play it?!?! help [14:02] Stream's intact, voices are gone. [14:02] i think corn flake girl might be the stanges lyric ever [14:02] The show hasn't started yet [14:02] lol... get iTunes [14:02] just use winamp [14:02] The stream is live [14:02] www.winamp.com [14:02] Get winamp. [14:02] We'll be starting soon [14:02] iTunes works fine [14:02] Someone post re-streaming info please [14:02] vlc works for me [14:02] doth not worketh with linux [14:02] i am usin g winamp [14:02] iTunes RAWKS! [14:02] i use itubes too [14:03] trying with VLC right now [14:03] xen, i use mplayer [14:03] but cant tell if its working [14:03] iTubes? yikes! [14:03] itunes even [14:03] are you using ubuntu xen ? [14:03] @xen I use Dragon player [14:03] I'm assuming everyone's getting static [14:03] yeah I hate mplayer though [14:03] Does iTunes even have a separate player? [14:03] your program should show a clock counting down or up [14:03] seperate? [14:03] sign that the stream is running even if there is no audio [14:03] it doesnt have separate sound controller, it messes with the main alsa one [14:03] the console version is perfect for the non-prophets stream imo [14:03] oh k [14:03] which is ungood to me [14:03] i use pulseaudio to control the volume [14:03] XMMS is good on Linux [14:04] and outdated [14:04] VLC should do it [14:04] iTunes streams in the main library [14:04] winamp with MMD3 is too nice a player not to use. [14:04] amarok! [14:04] * hailFSM has joined #nonprophets [14:04] I have amarok 2.0 on [14:04] VLC is a pretty awesome player [14:04] and its just so unreliable [14:04] is there a 2? [14:04] hello all [14:04] still no sound for everyone? [14:04] so I hear Don McLeroy is getting a bit of an ass-kicking in the state house [14:04] yeah [14:04] stable release? [14:04] FooBar ftw [14:04] sorta? [14:04] http://www.winamp.com/skins/details/122902 [14:04] just copy the URL. -- go to advanced, open audio stream and paste the URL and hit return [14:04] but it's final? [14:04] I mean, KDE 4.2 is suppose to be 'stable' [14:04] I'm installing winamp, almost done..... [14:04] yeah, they haven't started yet Ememel [14:04] "God sometimes you just don't come through" again [14:04] woo hoo! [14:04] Love it. Live it. Listen to it. [14:04] hehe, i don't use kde [14:05] woot! [14:05] Seems to be starting now [14:05] KDE is rubbish. GNOME is good [14:05] yep, audio is up [14:05] rubbish... another cool word [14:05] mmm gnome soup [14:05] * hammurabi has joined #nonprophets [14:05] rrrrrrubbbbbbisshhhhh [14:05] Hello Hammu. [14:05] "KDE is rubbish" is rubbish. Though I also prefer GNOME. [14:05] * omnikinesis has joined #nonprophets [14:05] qt sucks [14:05] hello [14:05] gnome w/compiz [14:05] ooh tori amos [14:05] we are the no prophets [14:05] as opposed to "strokeish".... [14:05] OK KDE is actully really good. But GNOME is better. [14:05] * DorisES has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [14:05] QT is awsome [14:05] huggy bear [14:05] oh brother [14:06] whew caught it just in time [14:06] yes [14:06] wow [14:06] Children's prgram intro? [14:06] childers show [14:06] What the hell's going on. [14:06] *program [14:06] live from a zepplin over austin [14:06] i wanna go to dillahunty international studios.... [14:06] RUSSELL'S BACK! [14:06] damn it, hurry up installation, I'm missing it :-( [14:06] Is it always like this? [14:06] welsome russell! [14:06] lol [14:06] They do a different intro each week [14:06] it is different every time [14:06] Aha. [14:06] holy freakin' wow, man [14:06] no shilling? [14:06] denis is my housegod [14:06] oh wow... theyre trying hard this week.... [14:06] shilling is there [14:06] yeah shillin there [14:06] HELLO GUYS THANKS FOR THE AWESOME SHOW! [14:06] * shamar has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [14:06] * Tigreen555 has joined #nonprophets [14:07] ah, good [14:07] * camillaavellar has joined #nonprophets [14:07] did you guys take your meds today? [14:07] haha this one is great [14:07] * camillaavellar is now known as Urion [14:07] Yeah, it is pretty awesome [14:07] or did you start drinking early? [14:07] so ya, ive never seen a pic of shillin....why doesnt he go on the tv show? [14:07] candy is short for crack [14:07] explorer club! yay! [14:07] I've seen shilling, but he hides a lot [14:07] bs boots! [14:07] * debdrup harasses people in good ways. [14:07] doesnt beat the "so awesome will melt your face one" though [14:07] he's shy, I guess [14:07] So that'll be illegal as well. [14:07] but candy is the same lenght as crack? [14:07] mathmexican: i would love shilling to do AE [14:07] bs boots [14:07] I'm an Atheist Explorer! [14:07] * vinocogito has joined #nonprophets [14:08] * DorisES has joined #nonprophets [14:08] disclaimer in situ [14:08] hammurabi: yay atheists. [14:08] yeah Russel's back [14:08] 9nay [14:08] yay [14:08] yay [14:08] ;( [14:08] rudeboy: don't I know you. [14:08] *high five* to russell [14:08] 1st to say russell's back [14:08] * Kargoneth has joined #nonprophets [14:08] still quiet ? [14:08] I live! [14:08] nope [14:08] Shilling is mainly constructed from papier-mache and rage. [14:08] don't you? I don't know [14:08] * Sabina has quit IRC (Sabina) [14:08] It has been too long [14:08] Mutiny! [14:08] rage? [14:08] i wanna run for "ACA Pissboy" [14:08] * Sabina has joined #nonprophets [14:08] Wait, maybe I don't. [14:08] shilling is secretly god and that's why we never see him [14:08] Peebles? [14:09] you tell me if you know me. [14:09] I hope there are no creationists trying to get on the board, like they do with school boards [14:09] describe me [14:09] * Sabina grins broadly, from ear to ear [14:09] oppose matt???? in THIS reality??? [14:09] HAH! [14:09] What? Last-minute additions to the board elections? [14:09] * shamar has joined #nonprophets [14:09] sounds like a coup plot [14:09] bored elections? you bet. [14:09] Curious [14:09] Matt should run for Texas state school board [14:10] still quiet, right? show's not on yet ? [14:10] hm, who doesn't russel like [14:10] anyone know what the show is up on google vide? [14:10] The show is going [14:10] not quiet [14:10] No Sab, show's on. [14:10] No, it's started [14:10] nice! [14:10] shit. [14:10] that would be awesome if he got elected but YEAH RIGHT [14:10] I wish I could go to TAM 7 :/ [14:10] yeah startin [14:10] Try a different stream [14:10] TAM 7 ftw [14:10] I'm too porr to go to TAM [14:10] niiiice [14:10] Matt? gf? [14:10] *poor [14:10] Vegas?! [14:10] use ONE airline Matt [14:10] hehe [14:10] Yasic won't be there to drive and pick you up [14:10] if the floors a rockin dont come a knockin? [14:10] I contemplate going to TAM... [14:11] remember only ONE airline Matt! [14:11] I still need a passport [14:11] wish I could go to TAM [14:11] I really want to meet Randi before he dies [14:11] whats the amazing meeting [14:11] Matt remembered one airline! [14:11] Matt has a girlfriend?!? My life is ruined! [14:11] TAM??? i can barely go to the ATM... [14:11] *yay* it's playing now :-) [14:11] Randi is neven going to die [14:11] google The Amazing Meeting [14:11] never [14:11] haha [14:11] sham: On winamp? [14:11] joachim: color me skeptic [14:11] ok. now I hear the show. [14:11] how old is Randi? [14:11] yup, winamp [14:11] 82? [14:11] Grat [14:11] like 80 [14:11] 80ish [14:11] z [14:11] xen: body paint... hot [14:12] spatula city! [14:12] pic or it didn't happen [14:12] woooohoooo... [14:12] my great aunt is 100, randi can make it another decade at least [14:12] ahhhh.... [14:12] classic Weird Al gag [14:12] * Non-Prophets sets mode: +o microbiologychick [14:12] hum [14:12] he seems pretty healthy [14:12] feed just died [14:12] I've been hardly working... My last day at work was two weeks ago... I moved last week, so I could not watch/listen [14:12] for me [14:12] he's 80 according to wikipedia [14:12] * DorisES has quit IRC (DorisES) [14:12] and its back [14:12] that was the flag they featured in "Jesus Camp" I bet [14:12] fucking christian flag annoys me, lol [14:12] I've seen christian flags as a white background, red cross [14:12] ok... STOP!!! i gotta pee... [14:12] isnt that one templar? [14:12] i like the CA flag. it has a bear on it [14:13] bears are worse [14:13] I can't bear to look at it [14:13] har har [14:13] Ursine jokes aside [14:13] mathmexican: no bears cause Steven Colbert hates bears!!!!! [14:13] I live in CA be seriously fuck some of the Laws here [14:13] I just watched an episode of "John Saffron versus God", and the kkk was showing their christian flag, lol [14:13] Archaneus, if you invert the colors, then you have the Danish flag ;) [14:13] * Pombolo has quit IRC (CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) [14:13] oh yeah? [14:13] interesting [14:13] Or they could be the She Bears that ate the youth for callin that guy bald [14:13] lol [14:14] isnt the dane cross sideways? [14:14] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Denmark.svg [14:14] i am in california too... unless i drive like, 10 miles... then i am on oregon [14:14] Nice [14:14] shamar: I remember that, was just thinking about it [14:14] lol [14:14] shamar: creepy flag with blood drop on it [14:14] Yeah, that's similiar [14:14] I pledge allegiance to the Christian flag and to the savior for whose kingdom it stands. One brotherhood, uniting all Christians in service and in love. Or something like that. [14:14] I like that show [14:14] right up at the border. [14:14] * Lost_Reaverbot has joined #nonprophets [14:14] yeah [14:14] Im in central cali... Fresno area [14:14] yeah, that was strange [14:14] microbiologychick: that scene was disturbing [14:14] http://www.dn.se/sthlm/stor-jesusmanifestation-i-stockholm-1.856773 [14:14] * Lost_Reaverbot is now known as LR [14:14] mt. shasta is in my backyard [14:14] well, most from that house [14:14] sweet [14:14] Oh, apprently I was misremembering [14:14] yup. I remember saying it once as a child. VBS I think, [14:15] http://images.google.com/images?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=christian%20flag&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi [14:15] Chik-fil-a was originally mormon [14:15] I'm in Los ANgeles, up against the mountains. [14:15] Ememel: wtf [14:15] isnt it still? [14:15] How many here are actually in Texas? In or near Austin? [14:15] niiice... i used to live in lake arrowhead [14:15] Had to chase a rattlesnake out of my yard this week [14:15] joann fabrics is sorta xtain [14:15] 1 hour east of LA, like 15 minutes from the I-10 [14:15] jesus manifestation in stockholm [14:15] Water burger? Yuck... I'll take a glass of water, thanks [14:15] did he manifest? [14:15] I like Chick-fil-A [14:15] I'm in beautiful Tujunga [14:16] i have no clue what they're up to [14:16] WhatABurger [14:16] WhataBurger [14:16] wow i didn't notice that about whataburger [14:16] Oh [14:16] whatafuckinburger? [14:16] lol, water burger...haha [14:16] lol [14:16] other than being started by fundy Christians, what's bad about Chick-fil-A? [14:16] so is In and OUt -- Xtian owned [14:16] that sounds... healthy [14:16] testamints [14:16] * xen not american, lost [14:16] water kills! [14:16] condomints?!? [14:16] I can't stand mint... smells to strong for me [14:16] water burger, just prayin jesus will turn it into wine [14:16] "Jesus Snaps"... FTW [14:16] and Del Taco [14:17] well... almost every US corp is mostly xtain owned.... [14:17] * Norm has joined #nonprophets [14:17] Those I know for sure [14:17] * DorisES has joined #nonprophets [14:17] I don't really like whataburger anyways, burger king is better as far as fast food chain burger...I like the Texas Whopper [14:17] * Hubbub has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]) [14:17] :| [14:17] i like Wendys [14:17] Alaska [14:17] Are we talking about Chick Fil A? [14:17] that pisses me off about chik-fil-a, not open on sunday!!! [14:17] mmmmm... wendys [14:17] yep [14:17] wtf is with that [14:17] My chicken crapped out a Jesus! [14:17] yeah food time, jesus time [14:17] carls jr!! [14:17] combine it, cause, makes sense? [14:17] wtf [14:17] how fowl was that? [14:17] I rarely go to CHick FIl A when sober [14:18] fuck fast food in general, high calorie low nutruient shit [14:18] lol weird and dirty [14:18] jesus said not to worry about food [14:18] rudeboy: *rimshot* [14:18] TY [14:18] actually, i never go to chick fil a sobver. [14:18] Try the veal [14:18] I'm here all week [14:18] * xen tips waitress [14:18] tip your waitress and call a cab you drunk [14:18] become a vegitarian and beat the whole system :) [14:18] Walmart is da devil [14:18] They have a place round the corner from me called "stover boys" burgers that is really good [14:18] you CAN'T go to an atheist fast food joint... you can't TRUST 'em [14:18] I refuse to go to walmart [14:18] Wallmart? [14:19] Wallfart [14:19] I've never seen a good argument against wallmart [14:19] i steal from walmart :) [14:19] LOL [14:19] that doesnt apply to just about every fucking chain store [14:19] Walmart is the basis of American capitalism [14:19] I go to wal-mart all the time...I'mpoor [14:19] i have [14:19] make money at all expense [14:19] walmart has CRAPPY electronics... how is that for an argument [14:19] eh, its a store, has cheap shit, what do i care, seems fine to me [14:19] whats more eggregious about walmart then any other stores? [14:19] a lot [14:19] mathmexican4234: slaves used to be cheap [14:20] xen read "no logo" [14:20] enlighten me.. [14:20] but then it was cheaper to make ppl pay for their own livin and make the wage cheap [14:20] Slaves are still cheap... until you're caught [14:20] yeah, because wallmart used to be a "Made in USA" place. NOW everything is made in China and super cheap. [14:20] * Echoman has joined #nonprophets [14:20] one of my college friends announced on facebook he was going to commit his life to jesus ~ I play board games with him but lol inside [14:20] gimme the best one Roland? [14:20] xen: then any other store? [14:20] At least here in LA there are other stores to choose from [14:20] but I need the cheap wal-mart prices, can't afford much else [14:20] what is worse about wallmart [14:20] i have religious friends... because thy're FUNNY [14:20] shilling: i understand, i go to a christian school [14:21] if you dont like workin for walmart go work at target... [14:21] Prejudice is good... when properly directed [14:21] i don't... i give them food... they get PISSED [14:21] I don't really have any religious friends, they tend to annoy me [14:21] lmao [14:21] "made in XYZ" is meaningless anyway. In the 80ies, Fender Strats were completely produced in the US, now they're made in China and only the paint finish is done in the US to get them the "made in USA" sticker. [14:21] I don't give them anything if they gave religious things on their sign either [14:21] exactly. when 9-11 happened a lot of shops had god blesss this signs all over the place [14:21] * Radula has joined #nonprophets [14:21] ninja stole my family, need money for karate lesson [14:21] wallmart saturates small towns where local bussiness is most vunlerable, exploits its own workers (no full time, no benifitis, exc), it uses agrssive political influence to keep asa wages below subsistence level [14:21] need more for alcohol research [14:22] yeah, me too [14:22] eh, money* [14:22] what's money? [14:22] Yeah, I saw the ninja one...funny [14:22] Roland: I recommend P&T's episode about wallmart [14:22] My cat is named Ninja. He's asleep right next to me.... [14:22] So it gives us better prices....if you are a small business better get crackin to lower prices [14:22] basicly Walmart only cares about their bottom line, not the workers that make money for them. [14:22] yeah, p&T episode was funny [14:23] ....then the workers can leave and work at target [14:23] have you ever seen a walmart employment app? [14:23] ive seen it and while i agree with some theyre ill infored about others and use a lot of straw men in their arguement [14:23] they had children outsourced too i read [14:23] or something [14:23] they actually touch more then just wallmart on it, and they deal with that argument.. [14:23] it's all about "thou shalt not steal from walmart" [14:23] the P and Teller episode about walmart is bullshit lol [14:23] Mmm... intelligent parasitism [14:23] I'm applying ay wal-mart as a second job for the summer, lol [14:23] oh... have fun, Shamar [14:23] lol [14:24] lol [14:24] easy job to get [14:24] dualist morons [14:24] lol [14:24] I need the money, I need to work 60 hrs a week for the summer [14:24] wow.... [14:24] chased by secuty [14:24] dumbass morons who want you to pray [14:24] Shaman? Like Three-eyes? [14:24] absolutely I would tell my doctor to go fuck himself if he told me to pray [14:24] open your 3rd eye! [14:24] yea that would scare me if my doctor said something like that [14:24] shaman, can you spare a dime? of your tarp money? [14:24] say ok Ill pray to Allah [14:24] id fuck my doctor for him.... [14:24] ju mo gue gui fi de zow [14:24] and see what he says [14:24] I would tell my doc to fuck off as well [14:25] hailFSM: well, fucking yourself has benefits [14:25] <-certified witch doctor... i have all my "patients" do the Pork-Chop Dance of the 10 Starving Pitbulls [14:25] I learned a little too late that the vet I had for my cat was a moron that believed in homeopathy [14:25] rational homeless people [14:25] tochee [14:25] and my cat died [14:25] touchee* [14:25] lol [14:25] Religious doc's scare me [14:25] I have inadvertendly given money to religious homless people who follow up my donation with "god bless" [14:25] I should've grabbed my money back and ran [14:25] * UnBeguiled has joined #nonprophets [14:25] lol... mug the homeless [14:26] haha [14:26] indeed [14:26] by god the meant the FSM :) [14:26] roll the homeless for spare change [14:26] heheh [14:26] god bless comments after i sneeze annoy the hell out of me!!! [14:26] if i were homeless and someone gave me money, I would say "Praise FSM!!!" [14:26] Ramen!!!!!!! [14:26] unless why were IPUers... ya never know [14:26] theres the southpark episode, starvin marvin that dealt with that [14:26] I say "science bless you" [14:26] I just say ' stop sneezing' [14:26] i know a guy who makes $300 a day sometimes... being "homeless" [14:26] "learn your bible, then you get your food" [14:26] i say gesunteit (probably spelled it wrong) [14:26] Uuugggg: lol [14:26] phlegm blassing to you [14:26] then I get an awkward glance [14:26] especially to myself [14:26] I love science, but I don't worship it [14:26] Man I wish for the day when *most people don't believe in regilious bullshit, so rational people don't have to worry about retards who don't know shit about reality [14:27] I don't worship anything [14:27] worship denis [14:27] i say... "it's lucky your eyes were closed, or they might have popped out". [14:27] My father's chiropractor has bible verses on the whiteboard in each room... That's the most religion I think I've seen. Living in Canada means that most of these stories I hear are alien to me [14:27] I don't either. But it is your anatomy that is making you sneeze, which we understand through science. [14:27] um. back in a flash [14:27] BRB [14:27] ehh Danis, don't hold your breath, even then you'll still have people who believe in say [14:27] eoneil: mythbusters says no [14:27] BIAF [14:27] back in a flash~ [14:27] the communist utopia paradise [14:27] ! [14:27] or the liberatarian utopian paradise [14:27] mybuster: religion is busted [14:27] libertarian* [14:27] but, science can't bless you, nothing can bless you [14:28] bless yourselves [14:28] * xen casts level 2 bless on shamar ? [14:28] bless me, biatches! [14:28] lol [14:28] I should start reading that blog... I've been reading Russell's blog [14:28] Oh yeah it won't be in my life time or my childrens [14:28] asshat is no good as a trigger... i'll drink when i feel like it [14:28] shamar has reality sheild! [14:28] cheers [14:28] wheres the blog located [14:28] on the internet [14:29] heh [14:29] haha [14:29] * Urion_ has joined #nonprophets [14:29] anyone else hate John Lennox? [14:29] anyone here post regularly on Pharayngula? PZ Meyers blog? [14:29] lennoz? [14:29] don't know him, so yeah [14:29] x [14:29] i will hate anyone you ask me to [14:29] i'm easy [14:29] shamar: rarely [14:29] Tigreen555: Which blog? [14:29] i hate almost everyone.. so most likely [14:29] I love that blog, read it everyday :-) [14:29] ...dead air [14:29] i occasionally go to pharyula [14:29] * Urion has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [14:29] wtf [14:29] * Urion_ is now known as Urion [14:30] k [14:30] especially if you pay me... i will hate the SHIT out of 'em [14:30] back on [14:30] unsure who john lennox is [14:30] I read pharyngula everyday but I don't post often [14:30] atheistexperience.blogspot.com [14:30] just youtube him [14:30] john lennox??? [14:30] If Darwin was wrong then all it proves is that Darwin was wrong. Don't prove god or id [14:30] thank microchick [14:30] oh [14:30] the mathematics fat british dude [14:30] that debated dawkins? [14:30] Darwin was wrong [14:30] I see no reason to like him [14:30] ya [14:30] but I wouldnt say I hate him [14:30] i also love skeptchik.com [14:30] * Canadian_hoser has joined #nonprophets [14:30] just the way he puts things, i thinks hes a punk [14:30] Darwin was wrong. Pangenesis isn't supported by the evidence. [14:31] darwin was wrong, bears didnt turn into whales [14:31] skepchick.org even... [14:31] Dawkins and PZ Meyers are my heros [14:31] < whales with legs wtf is that! www.talkorigins.org [14:32] shamar: Myers [14:32] walking whales have been spotted at wal-mart [14:32] skeptchik is good, I haven't red it in a little bit though [14:32] hobbs ayaers [14:32] yeah, xen, right my spelling is off today, lol [14:33] yeah skepchick is cool, last I went I saw this huge flame war [14:33] about date rape [14:33] was kinda surprised with some man hating there [14:33] i dont really read the comments [14:33] Fiends! Format changing! [14:33] creationist sites are awesome [14:34] Fat32 became ntfs [14:34] i visited a creationist website about a month ago, that said science confirmed the biblical flood. googled the geological term and it turns out it was ~500 million years ago [14:34] I was not Fat at 32 [14:34] what r some blogs r lesser known that some here think are good? [14:34] I AM fat at 32. [14:34] I was thinner at 32 [14:34] im 21... [14:34] I was fat at 16 [14:34] lol [14:34] i'm 27 [14:35] thin at 50 [14:35] 57 but what's in a number .. [14:35] im not 32 or fat... well not that fat.... of fine so i could work out more.... (cries) [14:35] i have never been fat... but after i hit 40, i kinda got a bit of a gut [14:35] and it sucks [14:35] phyrangula, but it isn't lesser known [14:35] Genetically skinny guess im lucky but yeah gaing weight due to the amount of beer I drink, rofl [14:35] lol [14:35] I have a gut.....I drink too much beer, but I love beer [14:35] Spout many falsehoods... [14:35] a little hint of a spare tire [14:35] everything is in a number [14:35] I only eat twice a day [14:35] magic hat ftw! [14:35] it is about the only absolutes we have [14:36] Watching Hitchens debate a Rabbi made me want to gouge out my eyes and ears [14:36] point taken [14:36] creationists fight a war of attrition [14:36] i need to loose ten pounds at least.... but i run like 5 times a week... i should be skinny damn it! [14:36] which rabbi? [14:36] Kargoneth: oh god that was horrible [14:36] i miss being 21 :) [14:36] Slander abound [14:36] yeah, that was a bad one [14:36] which rabbi? [14:36] Kargoneth: guy says stephan jay gould didnt believe in evolution [14:36] I miss 21 too :-( [14:36] boteach [14:36] Indeed [14:36] yeah i hate that fucka [14:36] * DorisES has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [14:36] some guy that works for oprah [14:36] I wanted to stay 23 [14:36] or something [14:36] when they went overtime? [14:37] Being 21 is overrated...or so I try to convince myself. [14:37] creationists are like bomb threateners. They say they'll bomb each school in the county, which takes five minutes to state, but hours to ensure safety of the bpulic. [14:37] made a joke about cuttin off the end of kids penises [14:37] I'm 27, but still feel like a teenager though [14:37] hailFSM: That's an awesome analogy [14:37] mathmexican4234: he does that :) [14:37] yeah [14:37] i am 43, but i have the body of a 25 year old... it's in the trunk of my car... [14:37] hehe [14:37] george hrab: was jesus circumcised? or was he a holy roller? [14:38] i'd say no [14:38] he was really a manly woman [14:38] I feel old when my co worker tells me that I look just like her mother's boyfriend, lol [14:38] his teachings is all about spiritual circimcistion [14:38] which i guess is what christianity is [14:38] * Norm has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [14:38] i feel old when i hear "you're good-looking - for an older guy" [14:38] why do they assume we're at war with god? [14:38] * nick has joined #nonprophets [14:39] i feel old when im awake [14:39] I haven't heard that one yet, eoneil, lol [14:39] NORM! [14:39] I feel old when I shake my cane up in the air and yell at people to get off the lawn [14:39] is that a compliment? [14:39] oh, that was cheers. damn I'm old [14:39] * nick is now known as Guest18314 [14:39] lol [14:39] hailFSM: Because they have to project... [14:39] I suppose so. [14:39] Deslusion... scapegoating [14:39] I should hand out pamphlets that say "Steps to thinking rationally" [14:39] Ramen!!!!!!!!!!!! [14:39] *Shrug* [14:39] Heh [14:39] im not good at paying attention to the show and chatting [14:40] or "Steps to peace with the Flying Spaghetti Monster!" [14:40] me either,lol [14:40] me neither, Roland [14:40] Rations for thinking Stepionally [14:40] haha me neither [14:40] especially not while drinking [14:40] show? [14:40] lol... kidding [14:40] cheers :) [14:40] * WhatTheHell has joined #nonprophets [14:40] whatthehell? [14:40] listening and reading directly conflict with parts of the brain that do the same thing [14:40] especially not whilr drinking, ne neither, lol [14:40] * Uuugggg has quit IRC (Uuugggg) [14:40] but didnt CFI actually put effort there? [14:40] Danis: that's bullshit [14:40] I knew they wanted ACA to be name-only [14:41] skepticism ftw! [14:41] Well for me its impossible I try to do it all the time [14:41] ftw [14:41] brain is for dreaming, listening and reading is what the soul does [14:41] maybe I could learn but seriously its like impossible for me aleast [14:41] * grrrrraeme has joined #nonprophets [14:41] wb [14:41] nihilism for the... oh, who gives a shit [14:41] i don't believe in soul [14:41] * WhatTheHell has quit IRC (WhatTheHell) [14:41] whathtehell? [14:41] my soul thinks that dialectic logic is confussing [14:41] of course not [14:42] * WhatTheHell has joined #nonprophets [14:42] I believe in soul music. [14:42] whatthe .... [14:42] i don't [14:42] welcome back [14:42] soul music is good [14:42] Cool. Shermer and Matt know each other [14:42] I believe soul music.....sucks [14:42] lol [14:42] lol [14:42] soul sucks.. blues rocks [14:42] agreed [14:42] and noted [14:42] lol Joachim [14:42] i'd claim knowledge there [14:42] Is anyone here in Texas? In or near the Austin Area? [14:42] nope [14:42] no... [14:42] not me [14:42] uhm [14:42] nein [14:42] define "near" [14:42] the guys doing the show? [14:43] miami is near texas [14:43] lol [14:43] I'm an hout to an hour and a half from Austin [14:43] its... still on earth [14:43] I'm in another hemisphere D: [14:43] waco is near austin [14:43] I'm about as far from texas and still being attached to the US... [14:43] Pamela Anderson has two large hemispheres ... [14:43] *as far from Texas as possible [14:43] the moon is near the earth, compared to Alpha Centaria * ( spelling) [14:43] are we still not over pamela? [14:43] PALMela HANDerson??? she's my g/f [14:44] rudeboy* ba dum chi [14:44] I'm in College Station, in between Austin and Houston, right in the middle [14:44] at relative speeds, I'm almost everywhere [14:44] were all close compaired to andromada [14:44] shamar: how about that central shopping center? [14:44] Yes my point exactly [14:44] good shit, eh? [14:44] ... if things were different and we didn't exist WE WOULDN"T BE CONTEMPLATING THE 'PERFECTION' OF THINGS... Urgh [14:44] I've been meaning to go to Austin on a sunday to meet the hosts of this show at the restaurant [14:44] andromeda! [14:44] I want to slap those fools [14:44] someday... i will go to austin [14:44] GO HOLES!! [14:44] central shopping center? [14:44] don't bother me. I'm measuring this gutter room for furniture [14:45] * Guest18314 has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [14:45] and i will hang with those guys [14:45] whether they like it or not [14:45] "The universe was fine-tuned for us" Bullshit [14:45] heh [14:45] theres a great quote about that [14:45] something like [14:45] My mother is in Austin at the moment, It'd be a good excuse to go see her too [14:45] bullshit was fine-tuned for this universe, is more like it [14:45] as our scientific knowledge grows, so does its perimeter with the unknown [14:45] perrrrimeter... [14:45] i think i have a warrent for my aresst in texas ... [14:46] the universe is more fine tuned for the formation of black holes. [14:46] ANOTHER fun word [14:46] Yay! I'm participating! [14:46] :P [14:46] Sabina: still wrong [14:46] the "fine tuning" is actually kinda "broadly" tuning since we're talking about _universal_ scales. E.g. all other variables untouched, the window in space for earth to rotate is ~200 _million_ km [14:46] * nick has joined #nonprophets [14:46] I'm on probation in Texas, lol, roland, :[-) [14:46] i always like to use the microcosim- antartica is finetuned for penguins! [14:46] seriously, shamar ? [14:46] jasmin: no, the stars are placed on the sky dome [14:46] * nick is now known as Guest47072 [14:46] Omni: lol [14:46] a puddle in a pot hole says "look, this pot hole fits me just right. It awas nade for me!" [14:46] uhhh, yeah [14:46] the bible says so [14:46] yikes, shamar. [14:47] you win... i just didnt play a speeding ticket... :) [14:47] god of the gaps [14:47] and like 9 years ago... [14:47] * ShadowOfDoubt_ has joined #nonprophets [14:47] my tire fits that pot hole. It was made for me and my tire salesman [14:47] I'll live, lol [14:47] Shit shamar. they'll lethally inject you if they catch you. [14:47] i have a gap in my teeth... i hope it's not increasing... [14:47] catch me? [14:47] sorry, shamar [14:47] Non-Prophets: 'as our scientific knowledge grows, so does its perimeter with the unknown' ! [14:47] Uh... what if I don't know what I don't know? [14:47] what am I doing wrong? [14:47] checked out the city the first time you mentioned it and google maps had a central shopping centre or so [14:47] my hand fits in a glove, it was divinely designed [14:48] THAAT MEANS BIGGER GAP FOR GOD LOLZ [14:48] Omni: The hand or the glove? [14:48] ... or both? [14:48] I disagree too [14:48] it diminishes the chances... [14:48] Ech... sound is gone for me [14:48] same [14:48] where has that hand been? [14:48] no sound [14:48] shilling was talking about the Dunning-Kruger effect [14:48] it's because the universe has a well-known liberal bias [14:48] kinda back [14:48] back [14:48] (had to check the speeling) [14:48] back [14:48] the hand is divinely designed for the glove [14:49] Better [14:49] was it speeled right ? [14:49] lol [14:49] I have to keep doing things right, cuz if I don't I lose my education...I'm putting myself through school and getting full financial aid [14:49] yse! [14:49] Omni: What about people with missing fingers? Or extra fingers? [14:49] which came first? The hand or the glove ? [14:49] the riding crop [14:49] kargoneth: they're sinners! [14:49] i was born with a tail... i guess i was NOT "fine-tuned" [14:49] That's why I got deferred adjudification, cuz it'd felony probation [14:49] Omni: lol [14:49] * Norm has joined #nonprophets [14:50] and if one postulates a creature that can live with little light, in vacuum and with minimal nourishment [14:50] the universe appears even more fine tuned [14:50] cause thats _more_ of the universe [14:50] then say, earth scenario [14:50] * mojorisin has joined #nonprophets [14:50] I was lucky to get into Texas A&M, cuz I've never been to highschool, lol [14:50] xen: Intriguing... I have never thought of that [14:50] universe is more fine tuned for black holes and supernova [14:50] rock on, Shamar [14:50] isnt there a mico0oragisim that can? [14:50] Kargoneth: theres a futurist that [14:50] show those kids where it's at, man [14:50] a something-bear [14:50] drew up what kind of animals could survive in those scenarios [14:50] * ShadowOfDoubt has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [14:50] lol [14:50] giant squids of sorts [14:50] lucky, you, shamar, that you value education as you do. well done [14:51] has there been theorized life in a vacuum? [14:51] * ShadowOfDoubt_ is now known as ShadowOfDoubt [14:51] giant squids live with minimal light, with huge, huge pressure [14:51] waterbears, Roland [14:51] whats the somethings-bears name!! [14:51] lol [14:51] education is the answer to a lot of things, in my opinion [14:51] smokey the ... [14:51] which is not vacuum [14:51] omni: that's one of the best points against the fine tuning argument :) if the universe is fine tuned for anything, then for beings that live in open space and can travel faster than light [14:51] Extremophiles are cool [14:51] i am omniscient [14:51] WATERBEARS [14:51] hey! I just said that [14:51] lol [14:51] not waterburgers [14:52] waterbearburgers??? [14:52] i heard waterburgers as well [14:52] fine tuned therory is complete short sighted bullshit [14:52] waterbear ftw :) [14:52] Waterbear? Sounds familiar... some kind of arthropod? Ech... *fires up wikipedia* [14:52] the last time I was in school, before getting my GED when I was 22, was the first half of 6th grade, ha ha ha [14:52] its like, microbial [14:52] microbiologychick might know more about them [14:52] I guess not [14:52] if the universe was fine-tuned for us, we would have lived here longer and for longer [14:52] no... a protozoan [14:53] Know about what? I've not been paying attention to the chat? :) [14:53] waterbears [14:53] they are kinda cute [14:53] how did you get thrown off the merrygoround, shamar? [14:53] "tardigrades are the sister group to the arthropods" [14:53] Damn... I was close i guess [14:53] I'll be 25 hours from my bachelors in Psychology at Texas A&M after this semester [14:53] But it doesn't count [14:54] nice, shamar... i am about that far from my bachelors in social work [14:54] Thrown off the merry go round? In a cult, to put it simply, lol [14:54] oh, I see [14:54] shamar: I'm a neuroscience major at Baylor [14:54] you did extremely well. [14:54] I'm minoring in neuroscience :-) [14:54] neurscince is neat [14:54] i'm minoring in underacheivement [14:54] maybe hes a prophet :p [14:55] Baylor doesn't allow neuroscience or psych minor, only majors [14:55] hard work with the PHD though last i heard [14:55] oops... achievment [14:55] ah, fuck it... slacking [14:55] * Guest47072 has left #nonprophets [14:55] haha [14:55] yes it is, and psychology is becoming more connected with the understood mechanics of the brain nowadays, aka neuroscience [14:55] I have a BS in slacker [14:55] it really has been for decades [14:56] I've always been rather skeptical of psychology [14:56] religion just took over [14:56] very soft science [14:56] yes [14:56] and neuroscience is having more implications in psych [14:56] I have to start thinking about graduate programs soon, not set on where to focus myself yet [14:56] but maybe its just my bias, I'm a physics sort guy [14:56] * nick has joined #nonprophets [14:56] im into philosophy at the moment so im trying to keep an eye on neroscience [14:56] most fields are very soft, but they usually acknowledge that [14:56] * mojorisin has left #nonprophets [14:56] Any of you guys go to a Christian school/university [14:56] * nick is now known as Guest13667 [14:57] solving mind-brain would be hella fun [14:57] not me [14:57] I'm interested in Cognitive psychology [14:57] f that [14:57] I went to a Jesuit University for a time. [14:57] joachim: find me some mathematicians that will say math is soft :p [14:57] Baylor University [14:57] not is soft in some ways [14:57] math isn't science [14:57] math is the perfect language [14:57] its not emperical its metaphysic [14:57] well ok, physics then [14:57] math isn't science [14:58] science bases it's proof on math though [14:58] well, no [14:58] well there aren't proofs in 'science' [14:58] theres only proofs in math [14:58] science (in a sense) is a derivative of math [14:58] yes, also math is obvious [14:58] well, I mean support then [14:58] evidence [14:58] evidence [14:58] * Guest13667 has quit IRC (Client exited) [14:58] no science expalens its resultes by theories that use math [14:58] ah damn, beat me to it [14:58] it's based on logic [14:59] 1+1=2 2-1=1 science ? [14:59] math and logic are metaphysical [14:59] I'm in a stats class now, proof is considered evidence with a 5% alpha level [14:59] math delivers us the means to create isomorphic models in which we can create hypothesis _for_ science [14:59] no evidence or proof there [15:00] theories based on math make testable pridictions [15:00] yes [15:00] psychology works by the scientific method, it's just that data gathering is very hard [15:00] Bush... present historians are judging him [15:00] but they can also always be wrong [15:00] hm. did he get that idea from loadacrap-r-us? [15:00] * xen nods @ joachim [15:00] see newton [15:00] yes the key to science is that something is TESTABLE [15:00] Danis: and falsifiable [15:00] math isnt testable [15:00] and I cringe horribly at the crude conclusions I've seen in the past [15:00] i have testables... oh... TESTables... nevermind [15:00] and falsifiability [15:00] dont forget that, or popper rolls in his grave [15:01] and falseafiable :) [15:01] lol [15:01] * UnBeguiled has quit IRC (UnBeguiled) [15:01] poor karl [15:01] Statistics is the key to psychology [15:01] :| [15:01] i have no falsifiables... unlike Miss California [15:01] lol [15:01] lol [15:01] predicting outcomes for a population based on samples [15:01] cheers! [15:01] another sarah palin in the making, miss california [15:01] shamar: yes but with that you can only get descriptions, not prescriptions [15:02] he sounds more like a psychic than a scientist [15:02] * Imjustaguy has joined #nonprophets [15:02] you can infer from them that say, persistant delusions dont factor in the best technique to thrive in the world today [15:02] that's because he's not a scientist [15:02] You can get prescriptions with enough testing of hypotheses [15:02] but do you see psychologists saying "ok, stop believing in the giant skyman" [15:02] if its fine turned why have i had heat stroke 2 times.... [15:03] Perhaps they should [15:03] say it; SAY IT. ASSHAT! [15:03] "giant skyman that you think is watching you masturbate is unhealthy" [15:03] god mad tucson hot to fuck with me?? [15:03] Roland: Didn't drink water? [15:03] mohammed had heat stroke [15:03] that was when the angel talked to him [15:03] I don't see how any psychologist could be religious, although I have seen them, lol [15:03] eh? [15:03] * veritas0 has joined #nonprophets [15:03] is it fine tuning that the cells of the photoreceptors in the eye are ass backwards? [15:04] compartmentalization is scary [15:04] I've never met a religious psychologist or psychiatrist, but I'm sure they exist, despite the contradiction there [15:04] omnikinesis: I've heard creationist arguments that say that argument is bull [15:04] omnikinesis: I dont know if they are true [15:04] haha [15:04] like, shermer compares the squid eye [15:04] ... [15:04] I like shitty experiments [15:04] which is better then the human eye [15:04] BUT [15:04] Stupid predictions [15:04] but I'll wear rubber gloves [15:04] some of these squid eye deals with less UV radiation, and they would adapt less to our enviroment [15:04] yes!! [15:04] yes? [15:05] and i'll wear rubbers [15:05] Squid are cool [15:05] it seems we are designed for them [15:05] yes [15:05] 7 more? [15:05] cephalopoda ftw! [15:05] And cuttlefish [15:05] I had a teacher of my intro to psych class in junior college who was religious, but she didn't have a phd, so ....... [15:05] 5 more... [15:05] hum,ans are divinely designed for divine condoms [15:05] maybe she'll be trained out of it [15:05] what's the discussion about the squid about? [15:05] all my neuroscience teachers are religious [15:05] i hate cuttlefish!!! [15:05] And octopi... screw it. Well said omnikinesis [15:06] cuttlefish are ok.. if properly prepared [15:06] The majority of the lifespan of earth is lifeless, yes [15:06] if not for them and octopi i could eat more seafood and not feel bad about it [15:06] something like 3 billion of the 4.7 are entirely lifeless [15:06] you can cuddle a cat but can you cuttlefish? [15:06] mmmm... kalamari [15:06] I prefer live cephalopods. I find them fascinating [15:06] fucking intellignt arthropods [15:06] ewwwwwwww........kalamari = nasty :-( [15:06] it's ok... i would eat people too... if they didn't lock me up [15:07] cephalopods are mollusca [15:07] eoneil: Mmm... stringy [15:07] lol [15:07] yeah i knew i had that wrong :) [15:07] mmmm, kalamari... [15:07] but it was i nice big word!! [15:07] and i could speel it!! [15:07] lol [15:07] I would eat dead people [15:07] lol [15:08] I need a beer [15:08] I think the stigma about eating people who are already dead and don't mind being eaten is rather stupid [15:08] I'd try human meat...just to see what it would taste like [15:08] archaneus and i will win the zombie wars... we will eat them back!!! [15:08] they are just piles of flesh, same as a dead cow [15:08] I'm drinking a Joose! [15:08] mollusca=mollusk ~snails [15:08] " something like 3 billion of the 4.7 are entirely lifeless" [15:08] Haha, nice eoneil [15:08] you're not counting bacteria as lifeforms? [15:09] I thought bacteria didn't emerge until long into earth's history? [15:09] 9.9% alcohol, and it's an energy drink, lol [15:09] Fossilized stromatolites or bacterial aggregates, the oldest of which are dated at 3.5 billion years old [15:09] "eat ME??? F that... eat YOU!!!" [15:09] what is the earliest vertabreate now? [15:09] Hmmm... ok, I'm wrong then [15:09] * Tigreen555 has quit IRC (Tigreen555) [15:09] it used to be hikoictus (sp) [15:09] I shall return [15:09] I'll have to look at a timeline again [15:09] yeah you're kinda way off on it :) [15:10] but MOST of the 3.5 billion [15:10] is unicellar organism [15:10] ok [15:10] that's where I was confused then [15:10] * xen nods [15:10] moon? [15:10] * shamar downs an icy cold drink [15:11] hallmark characteristics???? they bought one another cards??? [15:11] which is why some biologists consider the unicellular to multicelullar transition such a monumental change that it might be just as rare, if not rarer, then unicellular life in the universe [15:11] Right [15:11] or if not consider, postulate [15:11] < i'm drinking something better [15:11] also, where the fuck is our pizza [15:11] I have half a bottle of Presidente, lol [15:11] I really can't wait until we have some sort of encounter with life from another stellar body [15:11] should've been her at the 00 [15:12] That will reveal so much about the universe [15:12] i have MORE coffee [15:12] which is good for me [15:12] maybe it will help to kill off this superstition that persists in the human mind [15:12] Archaneus: lets hope they don't meet the mormons or jehova's witnesses first [15:12] not the superstition about visitations [15:12] i agree with schilling almost always...... [15:12] I think they'll be unimpressed by prostelyzing [15:12] Indeed [15:13] whenever he complains [15:13] But... [15:13] I think unless they were the primitives in that encounter, they would probably understand that superstition exists in primitive cultures [15:13] ... [15:13] If we fing intelligent extra-terestrials, America will try to convert them to christian democracy, or else bomd them...cuz they're not folowing god, lol [15:13] Ross is an idiot if anyone is listening [15:13] These predictions make as much sense as timecube. [15:14] so... any chance theyll read so mail? [15:14] stream's gone, right ? [15:14] timecube RULES [15:14] Sabina: nope [15:14] * Imjustaguy has quit IRC (Imjustaguy) [15:14] some [15:14] shit [15:14] wait now it just went [15:14] powercube ftw THIS CAKE IS A LIE! [15:14] so many misspellings in my last post, lol [15:14] it's just lagging because of all the people on it [15:14] no sound [15:14] love companion cube [15:14] no sound on extra feed #1 [15:14] yeah, the feed keeps jumping [15:14] and back [15:14] i have legs [15:14] I'm on original feed [15:15] < Same [15:15] i've gotten lags of about 1 or 2 seconds a couple times [15:15] but it fixes itself [15:15] and gone .... [15:15] yeah, lags here 2 [15:15] i gotta pe anyway! [15:15] mee too....... [15:15] Keeps repeating and jumping [15:15] stream died =( [15:15] I got no feed at all. nuthin [15:15] odd [15:15] huh. my feed is rock steady [15:16] mine doesn't repeat, but it does pause and jump [15:16] running fine here now [15:16] Mine has been fine for awhile now [15:16] just did skips a couple times earlier [15:16] mine rebuffs sometimes, and when it comes back it lags [15:16] *rebuffers [15:16] is whoever's rebroadcasting the stream here? [15:16] righ [15:16] *right [15:16] Matt has a FUCKING garden??? i WANT one of those [15:16] 3huh? [15:16] does the garden grow women or sex toys? [15:16] how much time left? [15:17] ~13 min [15:17] um... about 20 minutes? [15:17] my vote is for women [15:17] i fucker [15:17] 3fifteen min [15:17] yeah [15:17] but they tend to go over [15:17] lol [15:17] transitional fossils is such an ignorant term [15:17] Indeed [15:17] 3brb, bathroom break... [15:17] my fucking garden went to seed [15:17] It takes about high school level biology to know that it's meaningless [15:17] my fucking garden went to weed [15:18] lol [15:18] do they not realise that taxonomy is just... temporary and practical? [15:18] I don't have a fucking garden but I have a few potted plants [15:18] fuck yeah crocoduck [15:18] crocoduck ftl [15:18] I want a crocoduck made by the southpark crazy doctor [15:18] crocoduck with 7 asses [15:18] lol [15:18] crocoduck was beautiful [15:19] 3rudebuy, weed is all I grow... [15:19] 3lol [15:19] or smoke? [15:19] it proved comfort is both morally and intellectually a baby [15:19] wow.. my feed is in constant buffering now [15:19] 3both [15:19] heh [15:19] (if i am right to credit him for the idea) [15:19] ok, backto working again [15:19] Non-Prophets: maybe hes getting it from flood 'geology'? [15:19] I don't smoke tobacco, except rarely [15:19] I knew an "A" student at college who smoked pot every day [15:19] * hovertree has quit IRC (hovertree) [15:19] 3tobacco is bad for you [15:19] comfort isn't worth looking in to [15:19] carl sagan dude [15:20] just give him a pacifier [15:20] lots of smart people use cannabis, with or without tobacco [15:20] * hovertree has joined #nonprophets [15:20] oh and feynman was also a pothead of sorts [15:20] * devilzadvokid has joined #nonprophets [15:20] mitochondrial eve? [15:20] lol [15:20] Yep. Know a few who do [15:20] archaeopteryx is a crocoduck [15:20] comfort doesn't need a pacifier; he has Kirk cameron's dick to suck [15:20] haha [15:20] i have PROOF that god made dinosaurs for oil... ever seen a Sinclair station? [15:20] sabina: hahaha lol [15:20] 3I got better gps's when I could smoke regularly (on probation now) [15:20] HAHAHA [15:20] I have an IT guy who smokes to keep his migraine headaches in check [15:20] oops, gps's = gpa's [15:20] wow [15:21] * mathmexican4234 has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [15:21] I've seen a Sinclair station ! and their dino logo ! [15:21] see? [15:21] He functions fine. [15:21] Sabina: did you just sin with lust in your heart? [15:21] conflating the biblical eve to mitochondrial eve [15:21] so fucked up [15:21] PROOF! [15:21] dont worry, jesus prepaid for your sins [15:21] Xen, possibly ! [15:21] he has extended sincredit to you [15:21] xen, if Jesus died for my sins, I don't wnat him to have died for NOTHING [15:21] did jebus pay by check or =credit card. cause if he paid by credit card, they raised his percentage [15:21] computers could be considered life forms if they are made to reproduce [15:21] i do think a causation between cannabis and schizophrenia might be likely enough not to use it regularly, though [15:21] i saw this guy on TBN (christian station) once who said that dinosaur fossils are just fish bones made to look like giant reptiles. he has graphs and charts and everything. lololololololololol [15:22] adam [15:22] I don't know about that hovertree [15:22] wow [15:22] which is every day or every week [15:22] TBN = The Bollocks Network [15:22] lol [15:22] you would have to stretch the definition of lifeform [15:22] appropriate [15:22] * cloud369 has joined #nonprophets [15:22] Archaneus: you are a carbon chauvinist! [15:22] haha [15:22] :p [15:22] carbondioxide is a NATURAL gas! [15:22] arg mitochondral eve [15:22] I've been known to appreciate silicone occasionally [15:22] if they can reproduce on their own...they would have to intake materials....and would be a life form [15:22] but carbon is obviously more prevalent [15:22] just not carbon based [15:22] * mythosbuster has joined #nonprophets [15:23] there is no causation between cannabis and schitzophrenia....cannabis is one of the safest drugs known. Much safer than alcohol, and mutch mutch mutch safer than tobacco and most of the prescribable drugs [15:23] or naturally occuring [15:23] No, if we met an alien species that was silicon based or some such I would consider them a lifeform [15:23] * mythosbuster has quit IRC (mythosbuster) [15:23] who wouldnt? [15:23] shamar: there are reports very strongly indicating causation [15:23] * MythosBuster has joined #nonprophets [15:23] xen is a theist/ [15:23] ? [15:23] if it reproduces its a lifeform [15:23] if we met a silicon based lifeform... oh wait... ever been to hollywood? [15:23] 'I wanna be like the first guy to meet a lifeform...and fuck it' [15:23] of course it is safer than alcohol [15:23] yep. silicone is a hollywood favorite [15:24] joachin, reports from a peer reviewed journal? [15:24] yes [15:24] silicon is an element [15:24] THe HOrta was a silicon based life form and she had some bodacious ta ta's [15:24] ms cali ftw! [15:24] veritas0: not until the brain damage comes in [15:24] there was one published in the lancet a couple of years ago [15:24] ive got youre common ancestor right here [15:24] xen: nice [15:24] * xen wonders what I said that would lead anyone to think I'm a theist [15:24] I never saw a horta's tatas, but it could sure eat rock [15:24] well sorta... [15:24] can u please post links, or send them to shamarzbox@yahoo.com because I've read a lot of claims, but none that stood up [15:24] if we viewed the genome of every human being on the planet... would that be considered mass pornography? [15:25] xen: i just came in, my apologies [15:25] because we are looking at people's secret bits? [15:25] we share a common SPECIES of ansestor [15:25] exactly [15:25] evolution runs on _populatoins_. The "common ancestor" is _not_ a single being. [15:25] no offense, was curious what led you to wonder though [15:25] i mean... how nude is nude? [15:25] shamar: http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(07)61162-3/abstract [15:25] well, sort of jasin [15:25] but here's the thing [15:25] it's certainly not conclusive, though [15:26] there is a point at which it is a single being or couple [15:26] so is everything compaird to andramada!! [15:26] andromeda? [15:26] humans actually have less genetic diversity than most animals [15:26] Hehe [15:26] Right [15:27] Andromeda: a seriously lame TV series [15:27] yeah, it was pretty sad [15:27] cute babes though [15:27] and not a very nice constellation, either [15:27] which seems true of most sci-fi channel crap [15:27] but a nifty blotch in that M-lookin constalation [15:27] lol [15:27] true [15:27] xen: a bit of a misreading on what you were saying above about squid eyes, and then another misreading about the jesus prepaid for your sins thing. i fooked up. lol [15:27] ah, lol [15:28] I'm not sure xtians compare redemption with credit cards :p [15:28] Jesus prepaid using a debit card ? [15:28] for the scorge? [15:28] heheh... xen is holocaust denier... AND a closet theist... wow [15:28] how droll [15:28] not holocaust, xenucaust [15:28] * zntneo has joined #nonprophets [15:28] lmao [15:28] there was no history [15:28] What was Jebus' credit rating? [15:28] Of course he's a holocaust denier [15:28] my mistake [15:28] that's just logical :P [15:28] noone was there, were they? [15:28] Jesus had a perfect credit score. [15:28] so we can't know [15:29] Exactly jaochim [15:29] 590 on eqfax, 620 tranunion [15:29] That lancet site doesn't strike me as credible, for instance, it's a .com website [15:29] * zntneo has quit IRC (zntneo) [15:29] How much did a homeless and questionably sane carpenter make in those days anyway? [15:29] which of us wouldnt be tortured for 3 days to live forever as a god [15:29] they just spread the lies that xenu killed 600 billion to build clearwater, CA [15:29] or save all mankind [15:29] What fucking banker would even loan him any money, the prick [15:29] ? [15:29] it's not like I've met people who were in concentration camps and wrote accounts of it [15:29] oh wait... [15:29] Archaneus: kinda late to say, but i met a religious pschiatrist. he was teaching intro to psych at my school [15:29] xen,.. that's clearwater, FLORIDA .. not CA [15:29] if there was a housing bubble? [15:29] oh [15:29] yeah... FL [15:29] wow, sad, veritas [15:29] rudeboy: sermon on the mount tells you to give and lone to anyone who asks [15:29] whichever [15:29] the RIGHT coast... [15:29] I'm not american :p [15:29] fuck florida [15:29] that's not a very goos score Roland :P [15:29] so i guess the financial crisis is jesus's fault [15:29] fuck that. I'm not a fucking bank [15:29] lol [15:30] < FREE XENU! [15:30] loan* [15:30] yes... fuck florida [15:30] where do i get my free xenu [15:30] Florida: The cock of Amerika [15:30] I'm in Miami [15:30] I heard fuck florida = win! [15:30] im waiting for a title wave to reset this whole failure [15:30] xenu is never free!! [15:30] I'm in cutler bay [15:30] Florida will sink when the water rises [15:30] yes. florida is the cock of america with a dick dripping baby batter on Fidel Castro [15:30] =Tampa [15:30] REally, Roland??? LOL [15:30] LOL [15:30] < can i get at least a considerably discounted xenu? [15:31] Sabina, nice one [15:31] eoneil: xenu is the universal mandela man [15:31] ITS ALL THERE [15:31] doe "fuck florida" = win? [15:31] lol [15:31] THE TRUTH MAN THE TRUTH [15:31] 10% off Xenu! [15:31] its funny, im a militant environmentalist...but dont believe global warming is a threat [15:31] nice [15:31] how much time does xenu have left to serve anyway? [15:31] I have friends who still hold *ME* responsible for the 2000 elections just becuase I live in FLa. [15:31] You'd discount Xenu?!?! [15:31] every chance i got. [15:32] FSM is my god [15:32] Sabina: How's it your fault? [15:32] i so could have voted!! [15:32] 0% interest xenu... OAC.... with a $2000 rebate for well-qualified buyers [15:32] i was in school in Zona.... [15:32] "don't believe global warming is a threat"? wtf???? [15:32] lol! [15:32] but i had residence still [15:32] rudeboy, because of the hanging chads on the florida voters' ballots.... [15:32] whats global warming going to do? [15:32] So, they did hang Chad. I was wondering what happened to him. [15:32] besides raise the sea level [15:32] shittons of stuff [15:33] Chad definitely hangs low. He also dresses to the left. [15:33] im going to disagree with matt soon i think [15:33] the climate is a delicate balance [15:33] hovertree: steal your woman [15:33] Sabina: I absolve you of your alleged sin. COme back into the light. [15:33] ill get another [15:33] global warming will only screw up our 0-Zone layer [15:33] THank you, rudeboy. Bless you [15:33] "what's global warming going to do"? Uhhhh, kill our species, just to begin with... [15:33] overtime! woo hoo! [15:33] * MythosBuster has quit IRC (MythosBuster) [15:33] we had a suicidal woman at the psych ward i used to work at... we called her "swinging Karen"... is that like "dangling Chad? [15:33] overtime?? [15:33] * rudeboy feels all tingly inside [15:33] shamar: oh man I think thats just so unlikely [15:33] um.. no veritas [15:33] possibly even start melting those big blocks of ice up north or down south. [15:33] shamar: a lot of side effects of global warming are positive [15:33] nothing but a cosmological event could destroy our species [15:34] shamar: canada would become warmer and a lot of it would turn into prime agrarian land [15:34] Unless we canfind somewhere else to go betwen now and then... [15:34] well, it's positive for some regions [15:34] and negative for others [15:34] global warming would be solved instantly if people focused on the source problem and not the symptoms [15:34] a cosmetology event? [15:34] is this going to be the best intro and the most boring show ever? [15:34] liike.. getting a pedicure ? [15:34] shamar: some people have postulated that the amount of arable land would rise dramatically because of canada and russia, and the net effect of global warming actually be positive [15:34] free "make-overs" dooms mankind... [15:34] yeah, this country needs a face lift and lipo [15:34] mostly lipo [15:34] I'm unsure if this is true but, the doomsday scenarios I'm so fucking skeptical of [15:35] I tend to agree with those trained to study this [15:35] who is saying that the whole of mankind is gonna be wiped out? [15:35] aren't we just speeding up the natural process of warming 10x faster with our polution (or something of the sort)? [15:35] the whole show about something we all know and all agree about?? [15:35] the only real stand you can take for the earth is mass depopulation of humans [15:35] i am behind that depopulation thing [15:35] i don't think there is any chance that we will be wiped out by global warming, that's true [15:35] genesis mentions space time? well, fuck me ... [15:35] * DorisES has joined #nonprophets [15:35] well, if the eco system is ruined because of global warming...... [15:36] Eoneil, tell that to the Duggars. [15:36] not that i'm volunteering... i will volunteer OTHERS [15:36] but we could be decimated [15:36] 'ruined' [15:36] the ecosystem is ruined because of humans [15:36] ruined is really the wrong word here [15:36] not warming [15:36] what is "the deep?" [15:36] changed yes [15:36] fucked up [15:36] but global warming would impact some areas in a positive way [15:36] darkness was on the face of the deep? WTF does that mean? [15:36] the canada example for instance [15:36] yes, because humas caused global warming... [15:36] anyone want odds on how long this runs over? [15:36] * devilzadvokid has quit IRC (devilzadvokid) [15:36] POOF. instant land mass. Just add ocean [15:37] and since the northern hemisphere is larger and we have a lot of frozen land we cant use, heating up THAT area is just 100% positive [15:37] xen, tell thast to the polar bears. ;) [15:37] the magic wand theory of bullshit [15:37] eh they havent done shit for me lately :p [15:37] You are looking at this from an anthropomorphic standpoint [15:37] and the Lord said... "get these fuckin' atheists out of my space-time continuum" [15:37] but, the frozen caps are very important to our ecosystem [15:37] lol. this continuum is not secular? [15:37] oh also - in that it also increases ground cover vegetation, and diminishes CO2 in the atmosphere [15:37] the earth has been much hotter and much colder.....but not covered with billions of unkillable exponentially reproducing apes [15:38] * Xaignar has quit IRC (Client exited) [15:38] they are shamar. if the ice caps disappear, the ocean currents will be drasticaly altered and the Gult Stream will be gone.. england and no. euripe will freeze [15:38] xen ftw [15:38] nice way to say that hovertree, heh [15:38] yes, well said, hoevertree. [15:38] yes, the earth has been colder and hotter, bot, as you said, not with the population that we have now of humanity surviving [15:39] exponentially reproducing apes called The DUggar Family [15:39] me ftw [15:39] * xen lost [15:39] lol [15:39] its 339 CST... i think matt rambless on untill at leas 357 before they notice its over [15:39] :heh [15:39] DUggar??? [15:39] Well, as the mineralogist said to the First Nation Leader: "Barium my heart at Wounded Knee." [15:39] and god said... "let there be FABULOUS track lighting"... [15:39] over-time for the show [15:39] * Zarlan has joined #nonprophets [15:40] The duggars are the reproductively unchallenged clan in Arkansas and fuck and have lots of babies. 18 so far. [15:40] * Zarlan has left #nonprophets [15:40] brb, gotta pee, lol [15:40] there called mormons...and without your help they will soon cover our planet [15:40] they are being lionized on TLC or DIsdcovery channel [15:40] sounds like someone ought to loose the lions on them [15:40] omg 18 and counting!!! [15:40] haha [15:40] HOvertree, no worries. the mormons only increaede by about 250,000 per year and most of those who convert drop out in the first year. [15:40] god loves praising his own work [15:40] it boils me over with hate [15:40] "the grass" [15:40] someone needs to tell that woman it's a vagina... not a clown car [15:40] gods sees that it was good [15:41] Braise the LArd [15:41] Yeah, it reminds me of something kafir girl said once [15:41] "god hates vain talk? you know who is full of fucking vain talk? god" [15:41] It's gotten worse: THe duggar's oldest offspring has recently impregnanted his own female. the nightmare continues. [15:41] yeah the islamic rendition is particularly full of it [15:41] THIS IS BORNING!!! [15:42] god can't hear himself talk about himself if you are engaging in all that vain talk [15:42] it's pretty ridiculous [15:42] god strokes himself all the time [15:42] hahaha eoneil [15:42] gawd had a stroke, hence the mess he laft behind [15:42] shut up matt! we all know! [15:42] hah, that was the big bang, xen [15:42] god spilled his creative wad and created the bible [15:42] "SHUT UP DOWN THERE, I'M TRYING TO FUCKING STROKE MYSELF HERE" [15:42] lmao [15:42] Hey! What's wrong with stroking oneself!?? [15:42] It's dandy to be handy [15:42] "I created these annoying fucks, and I see that I'm good" [15:42] does whatever created god watch god mastrubate [15:42] ? [15:42] "SHUT UP!" [15:42] lol [15:42] xen: everytime u stroke yourself, god kills a kitten [15:43] lol [15:43] cosmic voyeurism? [15:43] someone else here listens to Malloy! [15:43] holy shit... i am PERSONALLY keeping cats from overpopulating the earth [15:43] haha [15:43] that reminded me of - 'if one defines atheism by not believing in a higher being, and god as uncreated by a higher being, god is an atheist' [15:43] I'm suprised that there are no ACA members here :-( [15:43] we dont??? [15:43] nice xen [15:43] eoneil- switch to people....cats take up less resources and die a lot on their own [15:44] heheh [15:44] 2 cat [15:44] * xen waits to see if ANYONE fucking gets that one [15:44] every time i touch myself, god will now kill a xtian [15:44] * rudeboy owns a pet snke. hatched from an egg [15:44] snake [15:44] huh? [15:44] because there snakes that are not hatched from eggs? [15:44] s fish blue fish? [15:44] *there are [15:44] touching yourself lowers chance of for prostate cancer [15:44] eoneil: thats really a touchy joke if you switch 'xtian' with 'jew' [15:44] some snakes bear live, some eggs [15:44] lmao [15:44] I mean, I go to a repub/cons school, and I was hoping to meet more local people here , lol [15:45] I thought part of the definition of reptile was born of eggs? [15:45] i had an iguana that grew too large and i had to donate it to the zoo.....did you know they have a third eye....physicaly not figuratively [15:45] ok... by decree... every time i touch myself, god will now kill a "judeo-xtian" [15:45] - fuck spelling [15:45] iguana, third eye? [15:45] speeling you mean? [15:45] well, some snakes grow the eggs inside and give birth after the shell has collapsed -- [15:45] ah, ok [15:45] a tiny light sensor in the middle of the top of their head [15:46] hovertree: yeah, very cool. it's a heat sensitive eye. [15:46] ohh [15:46] cool [15:46] i used to have a huge iguana when I was young [15:46] if matt wont go into cain and able i lose my bet [15:46] I have a python [15:46] is that what the kids are calling it now? [15:46] she needs food, btw [15:46] haha [15:46] how long [15:46] And god said: you require additional pylons [15:46] i used to have a mountain king snake... caught him myself [15:46] My gopher snake is hungry too. Gotta go buy some mice [15:46] I'm no kid, but thats what I always called it [15:46] * xen flips it over his shoulder [15:47] I have a pitbull and a ball python [15:47] lol [15:47] i named him "chomper"... cause he bit me like 7 times as i was catching him [15:47] i came home to an alligator in my bathtub one day [15:47] i miss my pitt mix [15:47] redneck roommate [15:47] shamar, pit bulls are illegal where I live. [15:47] pitt boxer [15:47] wow. a mountain king bit you? [15:47] yo should feed the pit b ull to the ball python [15:47] yeah [15:47] My pitt, Nibbles, is like my daughter [15:47] Haha, nice hovertree. My dad actually got me a pet infant alligator when I was little [15:47] THat's rare. My kings never bit me when I captured them [15:47] NIBBLES??? any relation to "Chompers?" [15:47] I still have no idea where he got it [15:47] bible= big book of multiple choice [15:47] cant get them in petshops anymore for sure [15:47] he was cranky [15:47] I love pitt's, the only dog I will own [15:47] do reptiles really recognize their owners? [15:47] I live in fucking michigan, no idea how he got his hands on one [15:48] I've always seen people all affectionate with their iguanas and thinking [15:48] 'that lizard has no idea wtf is going on' [15:48] they come right up to you once theyre about three feet long [15:48] I've had gopher snakes pissed off at me and trying to bite, rarely kings though. hm. [15:48] * hailFSM has quit IRC (hailFSM) [15:48] again shilling is right [15:48] * DorisES has quit IRC (DorisES) [15:48] i had an alligator lizard too... he was cool [15:48] lots of lizards, cuban enoles and iguanas running around where I live. [15:48] never bit me [15:48] my snake will lift up her head so I can rub her neck, xen [15:48] * cloud369 has quit IRC (CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) [15:48] Most alligator lizards will bite [15:48] cool, never seen that [15:49] lol [15:49] not "Big Ed"... he was cool [15:49] wtf is an alligator lizard? [15:49] * Rizen has joined #nonprophets [15:49] she will take the mice right out of my hand, lol [15:49] schilling ftw [15:49] but I try to keep them around as they eat black widows [15:49] then i had "Little Willie", a desert night lizard [15:49] shilling ftw [15:49] Roland: I'm agreeing with him too [15:49] i had a packman frog that ate mice...it was brutal [15:49] those are ugly [15:49] I have ugly, poisonous BUfo toads in my yard. [15:49] grammar nazi [15:49] its rare that everyone esle gets what shillings saying also though [15:50] I just hold them by their tail above her, and she snatches thm right up, lol [15:50] awww...ghengis wasnt ugly [15:50] there is something viscerally wrong with an amphibian eating a mammal [15:50] we have non native bullfrogs all over california [15:50] I could never bring myself to feed live mice or whatever to snakes [15:50] they were brought in at the turn of the last century for restaurants [15:50] I've owned far too many pets in my life for it not to be distrubing to me [15:50] me, too, archaneus. I would prefer to feed snakes a nice plate of ravioli or something. [15:50] my bet is good if matt talks for 6 more minutes [15:50] lol [15:51] http://b7.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00225/74/28/225048247_l.jpg [15:51] shit I'm getting hungry now [15:51] I usually give her two at a time, then one of the mice has to watch the other get eaten before it's his turn, lol [15:51] i just had chicken [15:51] mmm [15:51] wow [15:51] that's... malicious [15:51] dont it meat its murder!! [15:51] dude thats kinda evil [15:51] Well, if you are going to keep a carnivour you have to feed it the food it would normally eat .. [15:51] thats a mouse tail [15:51] I just had leftover braciole [15:51] i made some AWESOME chicken [15:51] not for that reason, but that's how it works [15:51] why mindfuck the mice [15:51] yeah? why terrorize the poor mice? [15:52] because we are capable of it [15:52] how about when the snake is little, and you need to feed it the baby mice? [15:52] * Paul has joined #nonprophets [15:52] shit man, if I had to feed it mice I might be temped to break their necks [15:52] heheh [15:52] before feeding them [15:52] but snakes dont eat dead mice do they? [15:52] the snake dies or the mice do... i pick snake [15:52] yep. baby mice, pinkies and fuzzies when it is a baby snake [15:52] they dont? [15:52] xen, some dol.l I've heard you can train them to eat dead creatures [15:52] some snakes will take dead prey [15:52] yeah I'd be more comfortable with that [15:52] it was hard for me to feed my snake the "pinkie" mice [15:52] euthanize the food before it goes in [15:52] oh fuck the mice...theres always more feeding mice [15:53] but i DID it [15:53] I pet rat that I had for years as a child was the best rodent pet I've had, but they are food smetimes, that's just the way it is [15:53] heh [15:53] i feel bad for them but i feel bad for a hungry frog too [15:53] mice are not andangered so I don't worry about it [15:53] I get her a hamster on her birthday, lol [15:53] well it doesnt suck for the species [15:53] but it sucks for that one mice that just gets eaten alive [15:53] rudeboy- exactly [15:53] if the snake will eat gains... feed it gians... if it wont... feed it whatever it needs to live [15:53] Best name ever for a hamster: Hamsterdam [15:53] I'd rather capture the pocket gopher that is terrorizing my yard and feed that to him though [15:53] it would suck if i got eaten alive too but it wouldnt be wrong [15:53] haha [15:54] free range [15:54] lol [15:54] unless people did it [15:54] my hamster was named tickle-feet [15:54] Right, hovertree [15:54] nah... it's ok if people do it [15:54] cause... they tickeled :) [15:54] am i an asshole for not really careing about endangered species? [15:54] yes [15:54] I agree with Roland, a bit [15:54] BUT [15:54] ah well [15:54] depends on the species [15:54] I think that point is illustrated well by that southpark episode [15:54] im an asshole for calling you an asshole though [15:54] I'd feed my snake a chiuaua, if she was big enough, for a specialocasion [15:54] rizen- yes [15:54] 98% of all species that have ever existed have died out [15:54] about the quacksomething [15:54] if it's an ASSHOLE species... good freakin' riddance [15:54] it's natural for there to be species dying [15:55] eoneil: exactly [15:55] like sharks? [15:55] sharks are cool [15:55] if.. the fuck you!! [15:55] and we have no idea when a possible species disappearing could cause a cascade effect [15:55] the black plague is almost extinct [15:55] I wish it would be fucking exctinct already [15:55] as long as its not human impact doing the killing then extinction is fine [15:55] weve filled our limit though [15:55] mmm mmmm [15:55] mmm [15:55] mmmm [15:55] mmm [15:55] I get my snake more expensive species, like gerbils or hamsters, for special ocassions [15:55] * hailFSM has joined #nonprophets [15:55] lol [15:56] human activity has massively affected animal populations [15:56] Hah, thought that was my phone [15:56] me too! [15:56] If I could afford it, I'd like to get her a sugar glider, lol [15:56] And we SHOULD be flippant and glib [15:56] thought it was my phone [15:56] one perfect example is the horned lizard (often called a horny toad). It is nearly extinct here when it used to be fairly common fifty years ago. [15:56] if a Christian discounts everything Shermer said just because he was mildly incorrect on a biblical contradiction would be stupid [15:56] hell yeah....sugar gliders make a good demonstration of evolution too [15:56] erm then they're stupid [15:56] id get a paroit [15:57] I'd like to eat a sugar glider, too, but I'm diabetic. [15:57] pareoit? [15:57] what does flippant and glib mean? [15:57] um.... [15:57] parrot? [15:57] ever eat passenger pigeon? [15:57] How is that NOT a contradiction? [15:57] lol [15:57] not anymore hovertree. [15:57] ever flew on a passenger pigeon [15:57] talkie-bird [15:57] neither have i......fucking asshole ancestors [15:57] I've never eaten pigeon. period. [15:57] * mathmexican4234 has joined #nonprophets [15:57] parrot Roland :) [15:57] Never tried to give the snake a bird, but I suppose that I could get her a baby chicken [15:57] the other verse says to take two and doesn't mention the 7 of every clean [15:57] Roland: ever seen the grey african one? [15:57] Matt, why are you so pissed off at Shermer for mildly misinterpreting a Biblical passage? [15:57] talkie bird!!! [15:57] that is still a contradiction [15:58] < some snakes will eat birds (mine will) and even bird's eggs [15:58] You're wrong in this case, matt. It's still a contradiction [15:58] How? [15:58] dyslexics of the world... UNTIE! [15:58] lol [15:58] One says two of every species, the other says two, but 7 of this other kind [15:58] If I understand correctly, then the passage says "two of every animal" then later says "seven of every clean animal [15:58] that's still two different accounts of the event [15:58] woohoo i win!! [15:58] it depends on how far apart the verses are [15:58] i gues [15:58] s [15:59] I have a pigeon outside my window that set up a nest with eggs, I might get the babies when they hatch to give to the snake...... [15:59] shitakwa tent? [15:59] if it is the same passage, then it isn't a contradiction [15:59] why should the bible be in the discussion in the first place [15:59] does anyone have the chapter? [15:59] even being brought down to seven animals would effectively inbreed a species into extinction [15:59] who the fuck cares, there's no way all the species could get on a fuckin boat [15:59] swine flu? [15:59] im a vegitariain... the snake isnt.. [15:59] cloud369: what I was thinking [15:59] If it's the same passage, sure but I'm pretty sure it's not [15:59] haha true [15:59] if it is, then yes, he's right [15:59] In innumeracy [15:59] but I don't think it is the same passage [15:59] which i'm reading right now [15:59] mathmexican4234: "but what if Noah just got 2 babies of each!" [15:59] he proves that the ark would sink like a rock under that much rain anywho [15:59] I've seen that thrown around [16:00] besides, who'd want billions of sea sick animals hanging about, eh? [16:00] brb, I'm gonna check if the pigeon is still there...... [16:00] babies take like 10 times as much care and attention [16:00] like it solves most of the logistics [16:00] how long is this show gonna go on? [16:00] I believe that he says that an aircraft carrier would sink under that much pressure [16:00] no no no....there were brachiosaurus on the arch too [16:00] haha [16:00] PLUS you know how much clean water they would need to survive for 40 days [16:00] haha me! [16:00] um hm [16:00] None, they just refined the water around them :P [16:00] haha [16:00] lol [16:01] yeah they boiled the water [16:01] i thought they stayed on the boat for a year. it only rained for 40 days. forgive me if i'm wrong [16:01] they used a replicator? [16:01] its like sitting around and saying....the moon is a planet not a chariot over and over again [16:01] well the water added by the flood was clear duh [16:01] THEY stopped at a Costco's for provisions [16:01] oh, well, either way [16:01] its a satellite not a planet :p [16:01] SHIT!!! The eggs hatched and their gone! [16:01] With regard to Biblical knowledge, sure. [16:01] a boat that big might catch enough rain [16:01] :-( [16:01] but it would mix with the ocean [16:01] and still be unsafe to drink [16:01] an AFRICAN swallow, maybe... [16:01] the ocean wasent salty then :P [16:01] not a European swallow? [16:01] isn't ocean water very saline. so if all the water fell from the sky, was there no oceans? [16:01] lol [16:01] it was so much water, that it diluted the salt content of the ocean to a safe level [16:02] I'm fucking confused [16:02] lol, then how the hell are there salt water animals [16:02] that diluted s alt water would have killed the salt water creatures. [16:02] who asked that?? [16:02] hmm Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what happene [16:02] an african swallow would most likely be able to get coconutes [16:02] d [16:02] in any case, how do they explain where all the water came from and where all the water went? they needed enough water to pass the highest mountain [16:02] lol [16:02] those creatues weren't around until after teh flood [16:02] see the salt water fish had tanks on the ship and they developed in salty ponds [16:02] if you're calling shit, you had better know your shit [16:02] lol no idea [16:02] if i were christian i would just keep saying...."Uh it was magic" [16:02] everest is like 29,000 feet up [16:02] WHY DID YOU SPENT THE WHOLE SHOW ON THIS?!?! [16:02] Oh [16:02] Magic man done it. [16:02] some asshat I used to work with said that all that water was held in a huge clound around the earth, for just such an occasion [16:02] magic man done it [16:02] * Vancha has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]) [16:03] Well Matt, thats how we all feel about them and science and we still talk to them [16:03] i love you guys.......worthless episode...but i love you guys [16:03] i agree... [16:03] Yeah, that's a very prevalent apologetic amongst evangelical morons, rudeboy [16:03] Okay, I agree that it is not a contradiction. [16:03] dont you know from the bible? the world was alot flater back then why i dont think the mountains were to high [16:03] and define "clean" animals ... [16:03] Dr. Robert Price said the two creation accounts were just the bringing together of some tribes and they clumsily meshed their different (yet similar) stories together. [16:03] Stick insects can reproduce by themselves :P [16:03] lololol [16:03] rudeby, my Jack Rssell is clean. she just finished lickig her ass [16:03] Aren't there two seperate accounts, though? [16:04] Matt, did any of the Christians in the argue that it isn't a contradiction? [16:04] yes. Archaneious. well, two similar accounts but with differences. [16:04] ew, sabina. and I emphasize the "ew" [16:04] if i could reproduce by myself... i would have as many kids as all those dead kittens... [16:04] If so, then I think it is a problem. [16:04] Yah, this episode wasn't that great....... [16:04] But if not, most Christians haven't read the Bible anyway. [16:04] so Matt, how much clean water do you suppose they would need for their trip? [16:04] anyone play poker online? [16:04] I understand that it is silly to cite a non-contradiction as a contradiction [16:04] True dat, hailfsm. true dat [16:04] mathmexican4234: kinda mistinterpreting the axe hes grinding [16:04] i wish you could get an operation that made your uterus make kittens instead of people [16:05] and then argue that it is a contradiction. [16:05] no im just askin what he thinks [16:05] No hovertree. we have too many kittens, too. [16:05] i don't have a uterus... [16:05] I have a uterus. [16:05] too many kittens? impossible [16:05] what kind of bullshit term is 'kind' [16:05] If someone had explained to Shermer why it isn't a contradiction, and he had admitted he was wrong and THEN cited an actual contradiction, I think it would've been far better. [16:05] I've seen creationists use it as they please [16:05] never too many kittens... takes like 15 of them to make a decent meal... [16:05] Was the whole debate about the ark? [16:06] ark ark. [16:06] none of it was [16:06] what r we lkng bout? [16:06] just put the excess kittens in the middle of the woods....the strong will survive [16:06] So what if he took two frogs and then one changed sex so they were 2 males... [16:06] it was just this little tidbit [16:06] dog was missing the "b" [16:06] "nobody wants to hear!!" [16:06] Okay, okay, Matt. You've genuinly shoved your Bible up my ass. [16:06] What about the poop on board the ark? [16:06] i bet the people who wrote the bible are rolling over in their graves laughing at us right now. 1000's of years after they made the shit up, people are still arguing over if it's true. [16:06] they threw it in the ocean [16:06] who shovels the poop off into the ocean. and where did that poop go? [16:06] hovertree, i want the excess kittens for my snake!!!! [16:06] the poop goes in the water [16:06] to the bottom [16:06] haha [16:06] que terrible [16:06] they have billions of dung beetles? [16:06] Shamar!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! thionk of the Kittens !!! [16:06] and humans and animals in close proximity creates viral crossover issues, like swine flu? [16:06] how long is this show going to last? [16:07] because you want it to end? [16:07] swine flu? [16:07] go swine flu! [16:07] yes [16:07] H1N1 [16:07] fu, I'm thining of the snake [16:07] wheres cat flu? [16:07] even though its worthless at actually killing [16:07] my feed is late? [16:07] well, then turn it off if you don't want to listen to teh show anymore [16:07] If they took babies wouldn't they be far more prone to disease and death? [16:07] I think of the cats when my cat used to bring me dead mice, lol [16:07] you can get a better argument, how did eco systems restart after the flood? if the flood destroyed every living thing including plants, what did the herbivores eat while waiting for plants to grow again? and what the the carnivores eat if they had to wait for herbivores to start having kids again? [16:07] yep MM42 [16:08] WHAT? [16:08] i love 99 percent of the show... cant i dislike this one? [16:08] veritas? Stop asking the hard questions !!1 [16:08] theyre actually trying to teach you to hunt when they bring you half dead shit [16:08] i find it interesting how we seem to eat alot of animals that are quite close to us genetically [16:08] i think of the dead kittens every time i touch myself... it's a natural aphrodisiac [16:08] if it destroyed all the plants, where'd they get oxygen? [16:08] I've never heard liberal christians saying YEC are NOT christians [16:08] You have every right to Roland [16:08] god made it, duh [16:08] i'm jus saying noone is forcing you to listen to it [16:08] they were all saltwater plants [16:08] Duh made it [16:08] most I've seen is that they are 'unsophisticated' christians [16:08] like seaweed n shit [16:08] just turn it off if you don't want to hear it anymore [16:08] Believe in Duh. Duh will make you Whole [16:08] or it could be the plankton in the water helping us with gas exchange [16:08] I agree that there are better arguments to be made and that Shermer made a mistake. I just think that Christians aren't going to listen to him anyway, and if they're open-minded enough to actually listen to what he was saying, then they can write off one error in his Bible knowledge. [16:08] What did the carnivores getting off the Ark eat ? [16:08] i know... but i love the email and the news items [16:08] no tru christian fuck fallacy [16:09] IT WAS MAGIC [16:09] Did they just go to McDonald's ? [16:09] each other [16:09] and weve gotten no of that [16:09] But maybe not. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit. [16:09] The YEC group at my University is retarded [16:09] Noah coersed the carnivores to eat plants? [16:09] I love shermer's talk about the 2 pattern errors [16:09] and pattern hits [16:09] Sabina: i think the aliens had to come down and feed them or something. [16:09] whats yec? [16:09] carnivores would die if they were fed plants [16:09] young earth creationism [16:09] They had a public egg throwing spectacle at a huge Obama poster before election day [16:09] YEC sounds perfect [16:09] yek [16:09] oh....gay [16:09] Wasn't there something about one of the Gospels saying Jesus was somewhere 100 miles from where another Gospel said he was? [16:09] YEC young eath crea...yeah [16:09] haha [16:09] exactly why the whole no death before sin is BS [16:09] tarantulas can't digest plants as far as i know. lolol [16:10] bart ehrman rules on this [16:10] I've had a few tarantulas about here from time to time [16:10] Matt ever try to get bart on the show? [16:10] i tried that... all i got was apologetics bullshit, matt [16:10] I still think that Shermer should have mentioned the mathematical thing from Innumeracy about a global flood evicerating an aircraft carrier. [16:10] they're not contradictions in the aristotelian sense [16:10] Bart Eherman was on Stephen COlbert, right ? [16:10] did anyone here some crazy new stats on religious belief in america? [16:11] the ark had awesome cryogenic technology given by god. didnt need food. [16:11] they're not CONGRUENT [16:11] I suppose it would be more effective to ask what they think happened, or what they think the Bible says and then explain why THAT is stupid... not argue that it says something else. [16:11] Nice, Rizen [16:11] that doesnt mean they are not irreconcileable [16:11] Sabina: yeah couple times or more [16:11] I like the idea that the ark had replicators better. [16:11] okay, Ben, cryo that cobra [16:11] are they talking about jesus now? [16:11] or an i laging [16:11] You don't have to demonstrate there wasn't a jesus [16:11] am i lagging [16:11] Sabina: www.atheistmedia.com click on the bart ehrman tag [16:11] great stuff [16:11] no more than you have to demonstrate there isn't a god [16:11] eh Jesus was all a metaphor [16:11] thanks, xen. [16:11] the arch is just a metephor.......for our long travel from alpha centuri [16:12] Praise Bill [16:12] I think we all agree that Shermer is wrong (right, Archaneus?). My objection is to whether or not to get pissed at Shermer if it was unclear to him that he was mistaken. [16:12] Jesus was his own son? [16:12] oops, I was thinking of the YCT here on campus.... [16:12] here you. Demonstrate shit [16:12] wtf? [16:12] If nobody followed up and said "Yeah, but it's talking about clean animals, heretic!", then I don't see why we should crucify him for thinking he is correct. [16:12] Yes, it is very important [16:12] but Billians sounds stupid [16:12] i like odin....he comes out and says it....im sacrificing myself...to myself [16:12] no such thing a s a "clean" animal [16:12] so does christian [16:12] lol [16:13] except you've heard it too much [16:13] you're way overtime [16:13] Merry Billmas, sounds okay [16:13] "Williamites" [16:13] niiice [16:13] dirty ones are the ones that chew their cud? [16:13] rudeboy, we're talking in terms of Christian logic. Don't inject your rationalism here! [16:13] god was metaphisical, jesus was both physical and mataphysical, the gohest is only metaphysical [16:13] i hate when christians say that christianity isn't a religion. that's so annoying. [16:13] Billmas [16:13] YCT = Young Conservatives of Texas [16:13] are any animals clean? [16:13] Yes it is, veritas [16:13] oh well, fuck me and my rational drunkenisms .... [16:13] ?hick" [16:13] "It's not a religion, it's a relationship" [16:13] fucking hate that shit [16:13] lmao [16:13] haha [16:14] PFD- people for depopulation.....i always wanted to start it...but i think i might be arrested or something [16:14] what, a propaganda site went down? [16:14] people have actually SAID that? [16:14] it's so freaking dumb [16:14] Archaneus: i hate that relationship crap [16:14] YUS [16:14] Matt, just one quick question, was it clear to Shermer that he was wrong? Did anybody object specifically with the "clean animals" thing? [16:14] YES* [16:14] brb [16:14] wow... i am living under a rock [16:14] shit, I gotta go to work in 2 hours, lol [16:14] I heat it a lot, eoneil [16:14] My fridge is an oven. [16:14] fuck I hate that argument [16:14] I hate to keep this up [16:14] *hear [16:14] Ok...that's the end [16:14] haha [16:14] * Norm has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [16:14] This verging into free will debate length [16:14] I have to go to wirk too [16:14] reasons.org? [16:14] * Sabina has quit IRC (Sabina) [16:14] * vinocogito has quit IRC (vinocogito) [16:14] okay everyone. see ya all in two [16:14] where u work, rudeboy? [16:15] see you in two weeks now [16:15] ovapple store [16:15] I loved this intro [16:15] Wow... I'm lagging so much, the show is still going. [16:15] *then [16:15] thanks guys... you're freakin' lifesavers [16:15] peace [16:15] was there video of this event? [16:15] keep going! [16:15] Show just ended for me [16:15] apple store, pasadena CA [16:15] love the show guys... [16:15] ovapplestore? whatz that? [16:15] I'm getting to the end now [16:15] How long til the show will be up on itunes? [16:15] oh [16:15] * C has joined #nonprophets [16:15] heh [16:15] So, we did 3 shows...one long one. And now, I'm taking a week off. I'm sure I'll spend that week answering e-mails (I'm about 50 behind right now)...ethical vegans, wait a few weeks...I'm gonna be busy with other stuff. :) [16:15] and may the noodley appendages if the Flying Spaghetti Monster be with you... [16:15] good work NP's keep talking the good fight [16:15] later all [16:15] * rudeboy has left #nonprophets [16:15] Paul, it's usually a few hours [16:16] thanks [16:16] I won't e-mail about this debate. Not worth it at all. [16:16] who's moderating it [16:16] later eveyone, I'm off to hunt mushrooms :) [16:16] was there audio from the debate [16:16] good show, thank you :-) [16:16] Non-Prophets: know if anyone video'ed the shermer debate? [16:16] mmmm.....ringer [16:16] s [16:16] I'm jealous loki [16:16] Magic mushrooms? [16:16] * emmemmemma has quit IRC (emmemmemma) [16:16] * WhatTheHell has quit IRC (WhatTheHell) [16:16] go to a cow pasture after the rain [16:16] nope. morels! [16:16] how about cutting back on how much meat i eat is that good enough for the vegans? small steps guys [16:16] thanks for the show, was fun [16:17] pick the shrooms from the cow shit [16:17] I want to look up that ark contradiction thing, because I had thought it was two different account, one that mentioned the 7 and one that didn't [16:17] eat them [16:17] * apparition has quit IRC (apparition) [16:17] * Echoman has quit IRC (Echoman) [16:17] morels? [16:17] like the genesis account contradiction, the same sort of thing [16:17] a bit too much "Matt" though. Nothing against him, just little discussion and much monologue [16:17] Magic mushrooms are the only fungus I'll eat [16:17] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCiStLKzivM [16:17] and the farmers give their cows antigfungals these days :( [16:17] thats good too i suppose [16:17] < i have no morels... i am an afungalist [16:17] * Urion has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042315]) [16:17] not here [16:17] lol [16:17] What makes veganism ethical. Do we not share a common ancestor with the carrot? [16:17] * omnikinesis has quit IRC (omnikinesis) [16:17] Archaneus: Do you still think that it is a contradiction? [16:17] morels = choice edible [16:17] Your moms a contradiction [16:17] I don't eat shrooms from cow shit, lol [16:17] I'm not saying it is, I'm saying I need to look it up [16:17] * Canadian_hoser has quit IRC (Leaving) [16:17] Liar! No she very well is not! [16:18] lol [16:18] plants have feelings too man! [16:18] the fresh srooms are the best [16:18] you should try it [16:18] Because my understanding of the contradiciton was different from the way it was talked about here [16:18] Fair enough. My objection was to getting mad at Shermer for thinking he was right. [16:18] we share a common ancestor with the mushroom! [16:18] lol [16:18] the ones I eat are from grain cakes, lol [16:18] If, in fact, he was not objected to. [16:18] right [16:18] i actually like the tresspassing and searching rather than the ingesting [16:18] shamar: ;) [16:18] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat May 02 16:18:45 2009