Session Start: Sat Jan 24 11:51:28 2009 Session Ident: #nonprophets [11:51] * Now talking in #nonprophets [11:51] * Topic is 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information!' [11:51] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Jan 10 13:05:36 [11:51] * ChanServ sets mode: +qo Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [11:51] Wow, early ;p [11:52] New cables, one new mic...I have to setup early and then leave to go sign the new lease. Hopefully I'll be back in time for the show. :) [11:52] Renewing the lease on your place? [11:58] * Canadian_hoser has joined #nonprophets [11:59] * helo_darqness has joined #nonprophets [12:00] test [12:00] hello? [12:00] Yep [12:00] ok [12:03] testing my new Ubuntu laptop [12:04] Hey, hoser - know where I can find 4gig DDR3 RAM sticks at a relatively cheap price? [12:04] I'd really rather not order directly from Apple. [12:05] no idea, my laptop came with 3 gigs and I have no idea what kind they are [12:06] I'm about to take the dive into a 17" MBP investment and I'm trying to upgrade it without Apple's hideous prices. [12:07] Apple is expensive, my laptop is a Toshiba, $600 CDN [12:07] circuit city? [12:07] theyre going out of buisness [12:07] If Matt's looking at that line I may have made his eyes bleed - sorry. [12:07] theyd be on the cheap [12:09] Uh - just looked them up and there doesn't seem to be an online store left - the only option for me given I can't fly over there. [12:09] Ubuntu is amazing, my Toshiba came with Vista which I promptly overwrote. [12:10] lol [12:10] i have a lenovo [12:10] its OKAY...its good. ilike it but im frustrated as hell [12:10] a J Lenovo? [12:10] Has history already been written as to whther Vista is a worthy seuql to Me in terms of awfulness? [12:10] HURR HURR HURR [12:11] If we call Me - say, Nixon, and Vista is Bush - is Bush that bad? [12:11] i was going to make a joke like NO YOUR A UBUNTU [12:11] Microsoft does not have customers, it has victims. [12:11] YOURE* [12:11] 'you're' [12:12] THE DONT HAVE PROGRAMS..THEY HAVE CONGRAMS [12:12] THEY* [12:12] dammit [12:12] dammit [12:12] (damn it) jj [12:12] im typing on my back, not looking at the screen [12:12] the comp is elevated higher than me [12:12] laid out on the couch [12:12] I was about to ask hy are you on your back but I really don't want to know [12:13] * hamax1 has joined #nonprophets [12:14] when is show on? i have troubles with time zones :D [12:14] where are you [12:14] 1:46 to go [12:14] because im lying down [12:15] tnx :D i'm in central europe :D [12:15] why? bc im tired. [12:15] why? bc i work the overnight crew and havent slept yet [12:16] * kyokuma_jr1 has joined #nonprophets [12:17] never seen this many people here [12:17] pfft [12:17] wait till the show starts [12:17] <-nooob [12:17] it was over 100 last week [12:17] cool [12:17] there is still much more during AE though [12:17] yeah [12:17] -25 C here [12:17] * kyokuma_jr1 is now known as kyokuma_jr [12:17] wow :D [12:18] hm. i love LOVE the malajube song Montreal -40C [12:18] antarctica? [12:18] youtube it [12:18] its so...MMMMMMMM [12:18] water main just broke, living on bath tub water. [12:18] only mentioning it canadian hoser bc your comment reminded meof it [12:19] boil it [12:20] hello helo_d [12:20] hey [12:20] Given the ACA's obligation to restrain political opinion, will the Non-Prophet's mention Israel/Palestine? Have they already? [12:21] doubtful [12:21] however i think they will mention the miracle on the hudson and the innaguration today [12:21] i mean [12:21] they could come from the religious angle tho [12:21] a hopeless situation because of religion [12:22] yep [12:22] they talk politics w/o favoring any candidate [12:22] fundamentally broken [12:22] The abortion announcement I hope gets a big up [12:22] im so sick of heaving the hudson miracle* -_- [12:22] whats the abortion announcement [12:22] me too [12:22] edward currents skit on that was brilliant [12:22] NY1 refers to it as a plane crash [12:22] obama planning to lift ban on funding foreign firms that support abortion or smth [12:22] god causing accidents so he can get thanks for not killing everyone [12:23] yeah [12:23] he is so great :D [12:23] well get this [12:23] in NYC there was a van that backed over a bunch of toddlers in a freak accident [12:23] 2 died [12:23] others were injured [12:23] one of the agencies said "it was a miracle nobody else was hurt" [12:23] a miracle [12:24] sounds like a big fuck you to the parents of the dead kids [12:24] jesus killed your baby [12:24] god works in mysterious ways :D [12:24] NO IT WUZ SATIN [12:24] god is a serious asshole [12:24] I wonder if Hitchens is ever gonna forgive Obama for the Clinton appointment . [12:24] he has plans for those babies in heaven! [12:24] satan? [12:25] yeah [12:25] PZ Meyers is here in Edmonton, seeing him on Monday [12:25] im spelling lyk a tenagir [12:25] at least satan is consistent :D [12:25] yup [12:25] lyk a dumas igurant teen [12:26] http://www.buffalonews.com/180/story/558604.html [12:26] i think that's the one on abortions since you asked [12:26] i knew christians who said that all the non protestants who died on 9/11 went to hell [12:27] and that abe lincoln went to heaven. but when i told her historians think he may have been gay, she said "oh forget it. he tottally is in hell" [12:27] Non-Protestants? [12:27] yeah [12:27] she said anyone who wasnt a protestant on 9/11 who died went to hell [12:27] Who does that leave? [12:27] portestants [12:27] protestants [12:27] duh [12:27] :p [12:28] Pretty much apart from Catholic? [12:28] Okay Orthodox. [12:28] Does Mormon count as Christian, non-protestant? [12:28] i dontknow [12:28] dunno [12:28] I mean taht in a hyperbolic way. [12:29] i dont think so [12:29] "WHO DOES THAT LEAVE?!" [12:29] not parabolic? [12:29] i think that mormonism is seen as its own religion [12:29] not a branch [12:29] a transitional religion if you will [12:30] Silencing Islam's Critics http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123258473846504459.html [12:31] a transitional delusion :) [12:31] according to the JW's, all churches are led by Satan except their own. [12:31] good [12:31] i admire satan [12:32] he is a real go getter [12:32] hes like an asshole boss [12:32] you may hate him, but he still pays you at the end of the week [12:32] so you KINDA have to respect him [12:33] and plus, id rather be able to sin for eternity [12:33] Assuming you accept the concept of sin. [12:33] i dont [12:33] If i didn't know better I'd say the Bible god was Satan* [12:33] anyone else read about the priest (i think) who used church money gambling? [12:34] Xian view of sin, "Anything that is fun." [12:34] * Qwerty has joined #nonprophets [12:35] what do you guys use to listen to the stream [12:35] stoning ppl is fun. & the bible endources it a few times [12:35] winamp? [12:35] yeah [12:36] Totem movie player [12:36] i was told vlc isgood for this [12:36] would you agree [12:36] using totem right now to listen to Freethought Radio [12:36] yep [12:36] on linux use vlc, but totem works as well [12:36] Winamp is just fine for me :) [12:37] i use vista [12:37] but i dont know [12:37] i used vlc last week [12:37] then use vlc or winamp or whatever :D [12:37] dont remember if it was ood or not [12:37] good* [12:37] freethought radio on now? [12:38] yes [12:38] link? [12:38] http://lwww.freethoughtradio.com/ [12:38] * GoldenGuy has quit IRC (GoldenGuy) [12:39] * GoldenGuy has joined #nonprophets [12:40] * mond has joined #nonprophets [12:41] * dagnirglarunga has quit IRC (dagnirglarunga) [12:42] * Mummi has joined #nonprophets [12:43] i cant get it to play in WM [12:43] get what to play? [12:44] freethoughteadio [12:44] weird [12:45] try maybe downloading another file [12:45] you need Ubuntu [12:47] indeed ;) [12:47] debian!1!oneone [12:48] * Silverstrad has joined #nonprophets [12:48] how long before the show starts does the stream start [12:48] Hello, everyone, I'm a first-timer. [12:48] And it's all rather excitign. [12:48] *exciting [12:49] 1:11 to go [12:49] how long before does the stream start [12:50] about an hour? [12:50] it depends [12:50] Welcome Silvers [12:50] " " Silvers [12:50] Heyo [12:51] Hello, where are you all from? [12:52] queens, nyc [12:52] Edmonton Alberta Canada, eh [12:52] Slovenia, Europe [12:53] Norway. Europe myself. [12:53] Glasgow, UK [12:53] Netherlands, Europe [12:54] Europe, Lithuania [12:54] no austin ppl ha? [12:54] who here is glad that Bush is gone? [12:55] thats like asking who here is an atheist [12:55] who isn't? :D [12:55] A podacast by the ACA, an no one`s from Austin here? [12:55] ooh [12:55] the worst president ever [12:55] non prophetes is on tonight? [12:55] and i'm from the smallest country here :D [12:55] (its night here) [12:55] i am especially since im from america [12:55] any believers here? [12:55] I think we are smaller hamax [12:55] does fsm count? [12:55] not sure [12:55] just the FSM [12:56] i just so the most disturbing youtube video [12:56] ? [12:56] I *believe* there is no evidence for any gods - will that do? [12:56] link [12:56] http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WXKT8IPdvzA [12:56] the first 7 words are promising [12:56] then its downhill [12:57] I'm glad Bush is gone ... an I'm not even from the US :D [12:57] anyone listening to freethought? lol mormon converter [12:58] 40 seconds in and I'm losing the will to live [12:58] back to Freethought radio [12:58] you do realise that the last time some one listened to a talking Bush, the Jews spent 40 years wandering around lost in the desert :) [12:58] They got off lightly compared to teh Iraquis [12:59] it wasnt a talking bush....cyrano debergerac was hiding in it [12:59] i think jesus was a magician [12:59] just like matt [12:59] 40 years in the desert could not be fun. [12:59] there are youtube vids of magicians who do the same tricks [12:59] barry & sturart walk on water [12:59] "Nah-nah-nah-nah! Nah-nah-nah" [12:59] and create the 7 plagues right on camera [12:59] ((Switches thumbs) [12:59] hah yeah [12:59] "Nah-nah-nah!" [13:00] I wouldn't call a crashed economy and $3000 billion ... "they got off lightly " :) [13:00] conditional love ha [13:00] $3000 billion debt [13:00] Say trillion - it sounds... disastery-er [13:00] :D [13:00] hi all, greets from Finland [13:00] hiya [13:01] hey [13:01] Waddup, dawg. [13:01] damn lots of europeans here [13:01] * eierer has joined #nonprophets [13:01] <-Wales/UK [13:01] LOL at kyo [13:01] the US is going down the toilet, let us bow to our new Chinese masters [13:01] All these Europeans are making me jealous. [13:01] :) [13:01] y jealous? [13:01] "The British are coming! The British are coming!" [13:01] lol [13:02] As a Brit I'm just annoyed I have to stop making those endlessly amusing exchange rate jokes. [13:02] I, for one, welcome our new Chinese overlords :D [13:02] qwerty you beat me to it [13:02] :D\ [13:02] :D [13:03] Slashdot reader, ha ? :) [13:03] at least the Chinese aren't batshit crazy about Jebus [13:03] you sure? [13:03] they are increasingly [13:03] No, but didn't they pin that milk contamination on some scapegoats, and prompty sentenced them to an execution? [13:03] I'm pretty sure they're batshit crazy about something else [13:04] yeah but they're crazy about herbs and tiger penises [13:04] and disturbing porn [13:04] oh..thats the japaneese [13:04] Oh well, they're completely stable. [13:04] melamine in holy moohammed milk? :( [13:04] i guess you can't have it all :) [13:04] I like Chinese porn [13:04] lol [13:04] That's Nice CH [13:04] lol [13:04] my first time here and what do I find? A discussion about tiger penises and chinese porn :) [13:04] do they have a specialty like the japanese? [13:04] Japanese porn ... that's what I call CRAZY :)\ [13:05] :D [13:05] I'd enjoy Jpanese animated porn if it wasn't for all the relentless rape. [13:05] That aside, it's great. [13:05] tentacles [13:05] US porn is really boring [13:05] anyone knows any good jebus porn? lol [13:05] Porn is boring.. [13:05] you should try some Mormon porn :D ! [13:05] question [13:05] obey the tentacle [13:05] nono.. german softporn from the 70's is boring [13:05] yeah, all silicone implants and atm :) [13:05] Passion of the Christ? [13:05] That's torture porn? [13:05] lol [13:06] im using VLC and tried to see ifa stream started [13:06] Enema of the Christ [13:06] P of the C is snuff porn [13:06] it asked for a username and password [13:06] the burning bush? [13:06] lol [13:06] is this normal [13:06] Enema of the State? [13:06] LOL [13:06] S&M of the Christ [13:06] I wonder how Scientology porn might be :) [13:06] :D [13:06] oh lron! [13:06] Alien [13:06] anyone? [13:06] Top Cum [13:06] * Everything_Else_Atheist has joined #nonprophets [13:07] Like regular porn except with aliens - oh wait that's just a an Anderson sxetape. [13:07] how many live listen slots are available? How many listeners I mean? [13:07] 30 I think [13:07] lots, more streams [13:07] 30 [13:07] but other ppl stream as well [13:07] when does it start? [13:07] i'll go get some beers before it [13:07] maybe in an hour not sure [13:08] 53 minutes to go [13:08] 55 min to go. [13:08] ugh can someone answer my question [13:08] drinking games? [13:08] which one> [13:08] helo, what is that? [13:08] ? [13:08] GF: have you seen creepy Tom Cruise video ? [13:08] ME: you're going to have to be more specific :) [13:08] i just asked [13:08] kyo, sure :) [13:08] Qwerty, have you ever met an sp? [13:08] yuk, Tom Cruise.. [13:08] no [13:08] im using VLC and tried to see ifa stream started ? [13:08] im using vlc. i tried to see if a stream started and it asked for HTTP AUTHENTICATION [13:08] yeah [13:08] no idea . nope [13:09] dunno about the password stuff [13:09] doubt its normal [13:09] do you hear a stream now? [13:09] yep [13:09] of them setting up [13:09] nope [13:09] I can't hear anything [13:09] freetought radio.. yes [13:09] so you said winamp works just fine? [13:09] yep [13:09] k [13:09] im listening to ff too [13:11] * GoldenGuy has quit IRC (GoldenGuy) [13:11] what's the url for the stream? just to check.. [13:12] * http://66.228.123.40:8000/listen.pls [13:12] * http://62.212.74.135:8000/listen.pls [13:12] I'm going to catch the podcast, methinks. [13:12] My head hurts like hell and I just need some easy-listening music at a very low volume. [13:13] Qwerty: am I supposed to hear anything from that stream now? I get errors [13:13] it doesnt work yet for me either too early [13:13] Me too [13:13] no, not now [13:13] * GoldenGuy has joined #nonprophets [13:14] If I'm correct the show should start at 21:00 GMT [13:14] I'm on GMT+1 [13:15] check out the local time in Austin: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=24 [13:15] Topic Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! [13:15] The official stream only takes 30 listeners. It is rebroadcast by some kind persons using the about mentioned url's. The streams are not broadcasting yet. [13:16] 19:00 UTC is.. now? [13:16] Isn`t 30 listeners a bit low? [13:16] I could probably set up a rebroadcast for next time.. I got 10 Mbit upload to spare [13:17] Connect via the rebroadcast streams. They have a much higher capacity [13:17] this basically started as a podcast, the stream is a bonus, I think [13:17] 30 was quite enough a couple of years ago [13:17] not anymore though [13:18] have you seen the number of users on Ustream, for the Atheist Experience ? [13:18] the chat is impossible :) [13:18] yup [13:18] How many listen and download the show? [13:18] plus 300 [13:18] * azathoth has joined #nonprophets [13:18] when are they going to get a better streaming for the radioshow [13:18] about that [13:19] when Matt gets a T-1 into his apartment [13:19] I have been listen live 4 ages and very rarely have any problems. [13:19] how much is t1? [13:20] Matt should just tie the transcript of the episode to the legs of his birds and send them out to all us listeners. [13:20] * Boreas has joined #nonprophets [13:20] here, aboot 5oo a month [13:20] lol [13:20] in winamp does it say its unavailable? [13:20] I didn't mean cost.. sorry. I meant capacity-wise.. in Mbits? [13:20] just want to make sure im seeing the same thing [13:20] yeh, not started yet. [13:20] ok [13:21] * FireDragons has joined #nonprophets [13:21] so tisn't just that it doesn't work with itunes then? [13:21] I think I'm a bit confused.. what does t1 stand for? [13:21] satellite connection... [13:22] t3 == 3x t1 :') [13:22] what's the speed like.. we don't use those labels where I live [13:22] I want t1^3 [13:22] I suppose my 40/40 fiber will have to do. [13:22] Wouldn't T1^3 = T1? [13:23] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Signal_1 [13:23] since 1^3 is 1? [13:23] The speed of T1 in third exponent. [13:23] debdrup: I got 100/10 Mbit [13:23] * Jeebus has joined #nonprophets [13:23] it says this... [13:23] Is t1 as fast as 33.6k dialup? [13:23] [ICY 401 Service Unavailable] http://66.228.123.40:8000/ Not what you are looking for? More Results [13:23] eierer: nice.. Fiber? [13:23] is that the correct messge [13:23] is that what you see [13:24] i just DLd winamp [13:24] mond: T1 is 1.544. I think. [13:24] debdrup: it's a lan connection through the city's open network [13:24] eierer: ah, that explains it. [13:24] T1 = 20 telephone line pairs [13:24] So the 100/10 is shared. [13:25] I thought T1 was a lot more ... 1.5Mb :( [13:25] debdrup: nah.. everyone who is connected to the network can get 100/10 each [13:25] guys? [13:25] where? [13:25] with 'open' I mean a network with competition between different companies [13:25] that thing i just posted ins from winamp [13:25] the network is owned by the city [13:25] do you have the same message [13:25] yup [13:25] yup to me? [13:26] yup to you [13:26] ok [13:26] thank you mond [13:26] one of great things of small country is, that i have ftth :D [13:26] 10/10 for 10€ :D [13:26] meh [13:26] I take it the stream isn't up yet? [13:26] want hamax1 [13:26] correct GizmoIscariot [13:26] I pay €20 [13:26] ok [13:26] no giz [13:26] we have two residential network service providers, the telephone company ADSL and the cable comp. [13:26] me too [13:27] hamax1: where are you from? [13:27] jeff is on AE tomorrow [13:27] Error: ICY-Server return service unavailable, skipping! [13:27] slovenia [13:27] whats tomorows topic? [13:27] dunno [13:27] but jeff is on [13:27] * 01/25/09: Host Matt Dillahunty and co-host Jen Peeples [13:27] OH [13:27] & who else? [13:27] DOH [13:27] okay [13:27] my bad [13:27] lol [13:27] jeff is jen peeples [13:27] we all love Jeff Dee [13:28] PROVE SHE ISNT [13:28] jeff scares me [13:28] the US is so way behind in broadband availability :( [13:28] i like him [13:28] but he scares me [13:28] y? [13:28] he has angry eyebrows [13:28] hamax and eierer, were those prices in euros? [13:28] its like that seinfeld episode [13:28] Don't threaten Jeff with hell or he will send you there. [13:28] he just looks like he wants to kill me [13:28] http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_t68PbVfvpjw/SPNxYacCuNI/AAAAAAAAAAM/KZCAL092gVE/S220/self%2B10-11-2008.jpg [13:28] eek! [13:28] paranoia much [13:28] Insto: I converted to euro because most people don't know the swedish currency [13:28] Hell is just living without Jeff [13:29] i often say im an atheist of love [13:29] 1 CDN = 0.86 US [13:29] * zippyapparition has joined #nonprophets [13:29] * Reuben has joined #nonprophets [13:30] * Reuben is now known as FalseImago [13:30] "helo_darqness> i often say im an atheist of love " AWESOME ;) [13:30] * Everything_Else_Atheist is now known as EverythingElseAtheist [13:30] but its more than that...i really dont believe in love or anything [13:31] You don't have to believe in love. [13:31] and i think the concept of it is dangerous [13:31] love? [13:31] why? [13:31] I dont follow [13:31] helo_darqness, an hero? [13:31] i write and ive said "happiness is just despair wearing clothes" [13:31] love is just a description of a mental state involving hormones, brain chemicals and specific neuron firing patterns. [13:31] btw, what exactly does "positive atheism" mean ? [13:32] love is chemical reactions in your squishing that cause your pp to harden [13:32] Love is just a chemical response that the brain gives to certain behavior exhibited by an attractive candidate for bedfun. [13:32] I am love :-) [13:32] yay for atheists making love scientific! [13:32] debdrup: It can still be enjoyable :) [13:32] * AllHailFSM has joined #nonprophets [13:32] RAMEN [13:32] Love usualy is [13:32] eierer: no doubt. Besides, bedfun is always enjoyable. [13:32] It meanss Michael Shermer is a douchebag. [13:32] I heard about some spray or pill that would make you feel more in love with your partner.. [13:33] positive atheism ~ positively sure there's no god. [13:33] anyone else heard about that? [13:33] its called alcohol [13:33] there is no love [13:33] Dont want to [13:33] No, it's not. [13:33] Canadian_hoser: lol [13:33] i mean [13:33] you may think youre in love [13:33] but you arent [13:33] speaking of science ... here's an awesome site: http://www.faceresearch.org/demos/average where you can see some Darwinism in action :D [13:33] that would be pheromones, and they're bullshit. Our sensory organ for detecting pheromones has atrophied with evolution and we can't pick it up. [13:33] * Criggster has joined #nonprophets [13:33] eah it;s called cocain [13:33] It's just a pheremone laced with hormones that the brain triggers when in love (a special type of endorphine) [13:34] helo_darqness: well if love is a chemical reaction than it IS love, no matter how it got started [13:34] no such thing as human pheromones - yet [13:34] if love exists, show it to me [13:34] My thoughts exist [13:35] hello everybody [13:35] That doesn't mean they're tangible [13:35] there are such things as human pheromones, they're just useless. [13:35] Send me a picture and I`ll thing abaout it. [13:35] are you a girl [13:35] I don't think the thin I heard about was the regular bluff pheromone-spray [13:35] " positive atheism ~ positively sure there's no god." .... wouldn't that be STRONG atheism, a position for which you have the BURDEN OF PROOF, like Matt said ? [13:35] myspace.com/neurotic_rocker [13:35] Hey, does anyone know what time the show's on eastern? [13:35] your thoughts are tangible; if I had the correct tools I could show you exactly what neurons are firing at exactly what time to produce those thoughts. [13:36] Hmm - I like that. [13:36] the pic is old [13:36] positive and strong are interchangable. [13:36] but youll get a rough idea [13:36] AllHailFSM: topic :) [13:37] AllHailFSM http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=24 [13:37] I guess you can apply the same logic to love - the Sam Hassis position on complex emotions. [13:37] topic says 3pm eastern :p [13:37] *Harris [13:37] Ahh, gracias. [13:37] im curious to see if the same spot that stimulates religion is also the same spot for drug addiction [13:37] in the brain i mean [13:37] Well now I feel like a creationis.....idiot [13:38] is everyone getting "service unavailable" for the stream or just me? [13:38] like when you pray and "feel god" is it the same area as when you get high? [13:38] Dr feelgood [13:38] Dunno. That would be one drug's particular effects. [13:38] Criggster, yes [13:39] * Liei has joined #nonprophets [13:39] mummi did you see the link [13:39] and are you a she [13:39] thats the important question [13:39] You know, Judge Roberts should really step down. [13:39] I was just kidding [13:39] * bluegrass has joined #nonprophets [13:39] Just saying. [13:39] I'm not sure we'll be able to say God =weed, or God = heroin [13:40] k, thanks qwerty [13:40] there aren't many atheist girls here ... or in the wild :) [13:40] are you kiddint [13:40] God that was good weed [13:40] most girls i know are atheists [13:40] Actually, Qwerty, technically most female animals are atheists ; ) [13:40] me either :D [13:40] well...i only associate with rational thinkers [13:40] our group in Edmonton is about 30% female [13:40] well apparently my country consists 85% atheists so.. come here to look for girls :P [13:41] you guys should listen to THEOLOGIANS by Wilco [13:41] Obviously they're pro-Goulag-Stalin then. [13:41] its a great song [13:41] lcuky, we're like 80% or smth catholic or more [13:41] Hoser, you going to see PZ Myers when he comes down? [13:41] "theologians dont know nothin', about my soul. about my soul" [13:41] or up [13:41] What's that song they had once, "I wouldn't wanna be like you"? [13:41] you bet [13:42] so just to clarify - in EST, the broadcast begins at 3PM? [13:42] yeah [13:42] sure does [13:42] great. [13:42] whoa thats twenty minutes [13:42] wasn't expecting so many people 20 minutes before [13:43] i've gotta get a drink so i'm ready when Matt says asshat [13:43] * TedInSaltLake has joined #nonprophets [13:43] :D [13:43] of course, I've never listened to a live podcast before, so :-p [13:43] I just started watching the show live [13:43] they don't do asshat as often as they used to :( [13:43] used to just wait for the podcast [13:43] we'll have to pick another word [13:44] can you watch it live via the internet now? [13:44] well, after judge roberts messed up I'm sure they'll throw it in somwhere [13:44] yep [13:44] too bad ustream uses flash [13:44] Hell is having a doughter who watch Hanna Montana. [13:44] and i can't find the link to the stream [13:44] better then real player :D [13:44] nonprophetsradio.com [13:45] main page [13:45] There is a link from the atheist experience home page [13:45] is the show starting in 15 minutes ? [13:45] yep [13:45] i meant the AE ;) [13:45] * Criggster has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120122]) [13:45] The is live chat while AE is on but it is just too damn fast. [13:45] Hanna Montana is proof that god does not exist [13:46] i wish they had a stuffed animal of the fish frog bird ape [13:46] any other Kentuckian atheists? Is that a pipe dream? [13:46] Its cuase theres like 200 people in that chat room [13:46] * TedInSaltLake has quit IRC (Client exited) [13:46] NC Atheist over here. [13:46] * Criggster has joined #nonprophets [13:46] Aaaarrrrggghh. Tom Cruise on my TV. [13:46] close enough [13:47] What's russell's SN again? [13:47] oh I'm sorry, exuse me [13:47] "Tom Cruise won't come out of the closet!" [13:47] What's God's SN [13:47] there we go [13:47] Kazim [13:47] kazim [13:47] Iamhewhois [13:47] God's SN is Kazim [13:47] ah that's right [13:47] :') [13:48] ahh the internet.. streaming a podcast and a college basketball game while on irc [13:49] Indeed, how people used their time before the interwebs came along is beyond me. I mean, would they actually go outside? [13:49] * AtheistLurker has joined #nonprophets [13:49] i dont remember life before the web [13:49] i mean i do [13:49] but i dont remember not having it [13:49] the world outside is scary... why go outside? :) [13:49] FireDragons, ip over pigeon [13:50] i DO remember old card catalogues [13:50] * NeutronJack has joined #nonprophets [13:50] books? I guess [13:50] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers [13:50] * azathoth has quit IRC (Goodbye) [13:50] * Sparrowhawk81 has joined #nonprophets [13:50] i remember when my dad first showed me the internert [13:50] * thedefaultposition has joined #nonprophets [13:50] * Sparrowhawk81 is now known as Sparrowhawk [13:50] amazon.com sold 1 million books [13:50] lol, that's amazing [13:51] that was it [13:51] the age was grey [13:51] and slow and lousy search [13:51] i didnt think it would become anything [13:51] apparently Matt is writing several books :) [13:51] * TedInSaltLake has joined #nonprophets [13:51] 9 minutes [13:51] * NeutronJack waves to TedInSaltLake from Colorado [13:51] okay, so serious question - I've got the stream open (http://66.228.123.40:8000/) on itunes - will it just start broadcasting when it comes on? [13:51] man they are waiting till the last second huh [13:51] * Mummi has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [13:52] whoah do we need a login for the stream? [13:52] hello! [13:52] no [13:52] its askin me for one... [13:52] i had that problem on VLC [13:52] ONLINE! [13:52] i dl'd winamp and it isnt [13:52] Ok, the stream is up...I'm back [13:52] you probably need to turn off authentication somehow in VLC [13:52] its fine i have winamp [13:52] PLEASE let the re-streamers connect first...we're starting a bit late, so you don't need to connect just this second [13:53] ok [13:53] w00t! [13:53] * Eilonnwy has joined #nonprophets [13:53] ok I stopped the stream for a while [13:53] Awesomeness [13:53] the current time in Austin is 1:53:10 PM CST according to this site: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=24 [13:53] i'm hearing some noise... [13:53] thats normal [13:53] clickity click? [13:53] that's experimental electronic music [13:53] * Hero has joined #nonprophets [13:53] truly minimal [13:53] brian eno [13:53] :) [13:53] free jazz :D [13:54] spinal tap freeform jazz experience [13:54] Hello everyone. First time listening to Non-Prophets live :D [13:54] I love static, it's the microwave background radiation :D [13:54] Hi all. [13:54] same here Qwerty :D [13:54] flight of the conchords:gangsta folk rap [13:54] haha [13:54] First time LIVE I assume [13:54] hiphopopotamus [13:54] old timer here [13:54] rhymenocerous [13:54] http://gizmoi.dyndns.org:8000/stream.ogg [13:55] play freebird! [13:55] well, yeah [13:55] am i the only one who actually doesnt care for that song? [13:55] nope [13:55] i hate it [13:55] HATE [13:55] :) [13:55] July 2005? [13:55] ok [13:55] and stairway to heaven too [13:55] overplayed [13:55] * Kazim has joined #nonprophets [13:55] should i be hearing somfin? [13:55] overplayed but still delicious [13:55] it's like Boston [13:55] play Indagadavida [13:55] great music, terribly overplayed [13:56] Hi Russell :) [13:56] play Theologians by Wilco [13:56] yo [13:56] Hey Russel [13:56] i really don't like indagadavida [13:56] hey russ [13:56] Hey [13:56] it jsut aint good [13:56] * Mummi has joined #nonprophets [13:56] Russell! [13:56] *Bows Head to God/Russell* [13:56] * duckdog has joined #nonprophets [13:56] "Deen-deen-deen deen-deen-deen DOW DOW DOW!" [13:56] This has to be an old one we're hearing right now [13:56] hey kazim [13:56] what do you call a man with no arms and no legs in a pile of leaves? [13:56] russle [13:56] * konradius has joined #nonprophets [13:56] Kazim indahouse [13:56] uuugh [13:56] i almost went out to get beer [13:56] a torso in a pile of leaves [13:56] ? [13:56] Yeah, uh huh, uh huh, yeah. [13:57] Just in time I see/hear (as I don't hear anything) [13:57] What do you call a deer with no eyes? [13:57] and a torso at your doorstep is matt [13:57] Coffee is so wonderful after a night of drinking :D [13:57] Hell is just a separation from Kazim [13:57] an eyeless deer [13:57] http://gizmoi.dyndns.org:8000/stream.ogg if you want to hop on my stream [13:57] No idea [13:57] That would be hell. [13:57] Especially for me. [13:57] and eyes deer? [13:58] Hell is DisneyCannel [13:58] What do you call a deer with no eyes and no legs? [13:58] not getting audio, you guys getting any? [13:58] nope [13:58] * Hero has left #nonprophets [13:58] nope [13:58] Still no idea [13:58] Not from the main stream [13:58] no [13:58] there is crackling [13:58] k [13:58] but thats it [13:58] mond, lol [13:58] Im listening to Tim Minchin right now till it starts ;p [13:58] I'm trying all three and still nothin' [13:58] matt is warming up some food [13:58] meaning...yes but no show [13:58] No guys, this is hell: http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1406#comic [13:58] http://gizmoi.dyndns.org:8000/stream.ogg if you need to hop on mine [13:58] food is for losers [13:58] i still havent heard Storm by Minchin:( [13:58] * AtheistLurker has quit IRC (AtheistLurker) [13:58] tim minchin is great [13:58] * kidigus has joined #nonprophets [13:59] 2 mins to air time, right? [13:59] They are going to start a few minutes late [13:59] where can i hear storm [13:59] * WoodrowWoodpecker has joined #nonprophets [13:59] GizmoIscariot: I tried yours but I can't seem to connect [13:59] And yeah, Storm was awesome [13:59] * AtheistLurker has joined #nonprophets [13:59] the JLA song is absolutely mind-blowingly awesome [13:59] where can i hear it [13:59] I guess we will have to use matt's birds as carrier pigeons to transmit this episode, sigh. [13:59] its not on youtube anymore [13:59] Stream is up at 40 kbps with 21 of 32 listeners (21 unique) [13:59] transferring The Wiggles from VHS to DVD for stepson. this should be fun [14:00] Odd cause it seems to let me connect [14:00] cheers insto, that joke was an oldy but a goody [14:00] "Thank goodness" for podcasts [14:00] whats this song called? [14:00] http://gizmoi.dyndns.org:8000/stream.ogg is mine. [14:00] 3:14 [14:00] but john cage [14:00] So, there's some noise happening that I just can't get rid of [14:00] http://gizmoi.dyndns.org:8000/stream.ogg [14:00] by* [14:00] VLS is only reading static! [14:00] Yeah, im getting static [14:00] yeah so is winam [14:00] sorry VLC [14:00] Yeah the main stream always has a little noise [14:00] on the itunes feed [14:00] http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=20924739 [14:00] I'm getting nothing [14:01] okay never listened live b4 [14:01] perhaps I'm doing it wrong [14:01] Slight static, but nothing major [14:01] just white noise? [14:01] Yeah it goes away when theres people talking for the most part [14:01] * grrrrraeme has joined #nonprophets [14:01] its like vinyl on the web [14:01] haha no static is suddenly bad [14:01] Yeah [14:01] patience grasshoppers [14:01] :-S [14:01] im not your grasshopper, buddy [14:01] i'm not your buddy, friend [14:01] "i aint your pal, dickface" [14:01] im not your friend pal [14:01] I'm not your friend, buddy. [14:02] haha [14:02] thats deom Bloodsport [14:02] from* [14:02] AH! [14:02] I hear a wiggling [14:02] I hop grass for no man [14:02] I'm not your guy, friend [14:02] satanic messages [14:02] sound? [14:02] Im everbodys friend [14:02] im hearing a message by shilling [14:02] lol [14:02] Ah, there we go. [14:02] I'm hearing stuff about alcohol? [14:02] hahaha [14:02] Hes reading off a beer bottle or something [14:02] voice sounds weird... [14:02] oh, now God is talking [14:02] HAIL shelly? [14:03] whats this guy called? [14:03] testing, testing, idaho. [14:03] That's just Shilling's voice. [14:03] shilling [14:03] the voice of God is speaking! Shush! [14:03] ahh. [14:03] Russell [14:03] God sinned? [14:03] blasphemy [14:03] uhm... [14:03] atheist bu.. [14:03] there's also a better quality version of the JLA song at http://jla.co.uk/cabaret-and-dance-bands/tim-minchin [14:03] lol [14:03] lol [14:03] Yeah its a tad loud but its ok [14:03] Auuugh! [14:03] no it's just right! [14:04] Sounds pretty damn clear though [14:04] say 69! [14:04] Sweet sound! [14:04] 42 [14:04] YES! 42 [14:04] THE ANSWER [14:04] 666 [14:04] * rostaman has joined #nonprophets [14:04] 9001 [14:04] Theres always that background whine though which im not sure why. [14:04] I can already tell logging in irc was a good idea XD [14:04] crappy adc [14:04] ? [14:04] I hear a slight pulsing - like a spectral heartbead [14:04] Sound is good for me [14:04] 4 8 15 16 23 42 [14:04] [14:04] 3.14159265358979323846 [14:04] slight noise but thats always there [14:04] ChatZilla is the ballz. [14:04] pie is good. [14:04] Its only noticible if I have my speakers way up [14:05] 3.141592653589793238462643383 [14:05] Which means when people are talking, it won't be. [14:05] I win [14:05] 99 therefor 9. 99 therefore 18. 18 and 18 therefor 36. 45 therefore 9 [14:05] bible logic [14:05] Was that an obscure proof for God? [14:05] damn you criggster [14:05] we're hearing echoes of the Big Bang, aka the microwave background radiation :D [14:05] Where is the first 42 in the decimal expansion of Pi? [14:05] it was a song lyric [14:05] from soul coughing [14:06] Matt - why is n to the power zero, 1? [14:06] I know! [14:06] The Pastafarian Bible is holy because it says it's holy and therefore it must be holy [14:06] Kazim knows [14:06] Because when God created math, he wanted to fuck with you [14:06] music [14:06] lol [14:06] lol [14:06] Yay. [14:06] Go! [14:06] lol [14:06] Happiness begins now. [14:06] Best reason I've ever heard for that [14:06] that's better [14:06] Uh... [14:06] |,,| [14:06] hmm... [14:06] Hmm indeed [14:07] fail? [14:07] I'd go with Er.... [14:07] that was the best show ever! [14:07] epic [14:07] It's because when you have n^x, that means that if you multiply n out x times, you get the answer. [14:07] well see you guys next week [14:07] But n^0 can't be 0 [14:07] 5 seconds of gold. [14:07] or else n^x would always be zero [14:07] Well that was sex [14:07] http://gizmoi.dyndns.org:8000/stream.ogg if you need a stream to hop on [14:07] (because multiplying by n any number of times by 0 would still be 0) [14:07] GizmoIscariot: why ogg? for compression? [14:07] is anyone getting sound or have they yet to begin> [14:07] five seconds of pleasure? [14:07] there you go [14:07] No, thats just what icecast uses by default [14:08] * phlophouse has joined #nonprophets [14:08] Thanks Russell lol [14:08] * phlophouse has left #nonprophets [14:08] Take two [14:08] Thank you kindly sir. [14:08] for the math lesson [14:08] * phlophouse has joined #nonprophets [14:08] Thanks Russell [14:08] GizmoIscariot: cool.. ogg has better sound with less size though.. so that's a good thing [14:08] Yes the math lesson [14:08] * Rizen has joined #nonprophets [14:08] (maths) [14:08] wtf music [14:08] Math is a human construct it doesn't really exist. In th same way we though classic newtonian physics was correct and now know it not accurate then math will one day be proved wrong. So I have decide not be any good at it. [14:08] lol [14:08] no this isn't music [14:09] I want to ban THIS abortion. [14:09] Yeah! [14:09] * phlophouse has left #nonprophets [14:09] * phlophouse has joined #nonprophets [14:09] * stephen has joined #nonprophets [14:09] so help us nothing [14:09] lol! [14:09] hahaha [14:09] haha [14:09] why is he reading so weird? [14:09] * phlophouse has quit IRC (phlophouse) [14:09] Does Thad now have his own Microphone? [14:09] cuz its an oath [14:09] don't put that noise on me [14:09] Is he going to mess up the oath too? [14:09] need C8H10N4O2. [14:09] So help me dog [14:09] lol [14:09] So help me FSM. [14:09] nope he doesn't [14:10] sadly [14:10] C11H17NO3 [14:10] aww [14:10] "Like a dream, no end and no beginning" [14:10] is his hand on a bible???!? [14:10] It's on something [14:10] It sucks not having enough microphones, I'm trying to work that out with my own podcast [14:10] Can't tell you where his hand is [14:10] It's on a mouse [14:10] They forgot to do it in double, one reading aloud and the other repeating [14:10] lol [14:10] So is he going to mess up in the middle because the cheif justice is a moron? [14:10] Mouse - that's harsh [14:10] no, the gospel of the fsm [14:10] Poor mouse [14:11] * Aud has joined #nonprophets [14:11] * duckdog has quit IRC (duckdog) [14:11] tried it once... hoo boy. [14:11] Stream is up at 40 kbps with 32 of 32 listeners (31 unique) [14:11] YAY! [14:11] lol [14:11] Thanks, Russell. [14:11] HAHA! [14:11] :D [14:11] 9-yr-old mormon niece with me, let the deconversion beging [14:11] FSM! [14:11] lol [14:11] I am mighty impressed by all the intros Denis has come up with [14:11] Russell = Awesome [14:11] second that [14:11] I am absolutely certain. [14:12] You're doing the show, damn it! [14:12] Oaths are like chinese food you do one and hour later you need another one. [14:12] He knows exponentiation like a MF [14:12] did they really do it without a bible? [14:12] They did it without a bible [14:12] that's awesome [14:12] i agree. [14:12] part of me was secretly hoping [14:12] Maybe Obama is a closet atheist!! Oh.... wait.... [14:12] that after he took oath hed go [14:12] "surprise, bitches!!! atheist president!" [14:12] that [14:12] would [14:12] Love Hitchens's phrase, "Obama shopping for a religion" [14:12] be [14:12] AWESOME [14:13] Sweet. [14:13] That would be wonderful. [14:13] He still needs to get re-elected. [14:13] Sums up the cynacism [14:13] * Izzem has joined #nonprophets [14:13] Wait for another 4 years. [14:13] in my dreams [14:13] * phlophouse has joined #nonprophets [14:13] * phlophouse has left #nonprophets [14:13] Or not. [14:13] if he lives that long [14:13] wow.nice. [14:13] he will [14:13] In Norway you cant be elected if your not a member of the church [14:13] * Trybanpherto has quit IRC (Trybanpherto) [14:14] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_f61ClxwAI [14:14] Mummi: really? [14:14] P3NIS ENLARGEMENT thru JEEBUS! [14:14] Norway = not awesome [14:14] * phlophouse has joined #nonprophets [14:14] * phlophouse has left #nonprophets [14:14] swearing in without bible [14:14] Wait... who's the new president? [14:14] I know [14:14] The show starts at 2 central, oath or not! [14:14] Bubba Ho Tep [14:14] Nuh uh. [14:14] * phlophouse has joined #nonprophets [14:14] Cool movie [14:14] bruce campbell is awesome [14:14] I don't think so, but a certin percent of the cabinet has to be members of the state church... [14:14] Loved that film. [14:14] He mentioned us, though! [14:14] he did... [14:14] yes he did! [14:14] i appreciated that [14:14] Amen. [14:15] the whitehouse blog is fucking awesome [14:15] I like most of the speech [14:15] I let out a hoot then...at Scholz' Garten here in Austin [14:15] whitehouse.gov/briefing_room/ [14:15] Yeah THE BLOG [14:15] several of us did [14:15] its almost like... [14:15] a white hosue blog? [14:15] its almost like he wants people to know what hes doing? [14:15] lol ust sounds weird [14:15] is it the blackhouse now? [14:15] whitehouse.gov also licensed most of the third-party content in Creative Commons [14:15] Weirdo with his transparency fetish [14:15] blackhouse.gov [14:15] "Today, I instituted a new bill. And I went with some friends to AppleBees." -Obama [14:15] but i guess since the pope has a yourtube now, this isnt as weird [14:15] Could be the first bad move. [14:15] Straight up Whitehouse.facebook. [14:16] What happened to Blackbriar style secrecy [14:16] * wgonzalez has joined #nonprophets [14:16] * grrrrraeme has quit IRC (grrrrraeme) [14:16] damn, mine keeps pausing to buffer [14:16] * Trybanpherto has joined #nonprophets [14:16] * Nanashi has joined #nonprophets [14:16] Happens. [14:16] Mines working fine [14:16] Mine seems alright, which is suprising considering my connection is pretty bad. [14:17] The USA elected a black guy who's middle name is Hussein! That's huge. [14:17] it shouldn't be [14:17] "I've had enough of HU-SSEIN!" [14:17] What a bitch. [14:17] haha ive seen that video too [14:17] he's half white [14:17] Well, I think if the Republicans had actually had a real candidate, Obama wouldn't have won. [14:17] Sure but still, who would have thought America had it in her. [14:17] or had taken a real politician for veep? [14:18] Or that. [14:18] I had this conspiracy theory moment when I thought maybe the GOP wasn't even trying. [14:18] * Key has joined #nonprophets [14:18] No, I still don't think that McCain could have won with Lincoln-esque as VP. [14:18] dude, making fun of people is totally a christian value [14:18] is it on? i dont hear nothing [14:18] No I doubt it. And I reject this constant "US is centre-right" response. [14:18] No, the sad thing is, that was them trying. [14:18] Yea, it's on. [14:18] The electorate seem pretty liberal right now. [14:18] It was them trying, but without the benefit of a good figurehead. [14:18] (Apart from the prop 8 thing) [14:19] 8 gig for 19? That's awesome. largest I have is 1 [14:19] 16GB for $39 at, tigerdirect, I think. [14:19] And there are statistically more Republicans than Democrats in the US right now. [14:19] I got a 16G tis epic [14:19] What do they have amnesia? [14:19] 2 gig for 10 [14:19] I haven't purchased one in years because I haven't needed one [14:19] But all the important states are largely democrat. [14:19] so I purchased mine back when 1gig was kind of expensive [14:20] BURN [14:20] win [14:20] LOL! [14:20] how about guns? [14:20] and that's the way we use it [14:20] It's okay to say Shylock given that's Shakespeare's most racist play? [14:20] Tedd Hagged is completely hethrosexual [14:20] win for a song [14:20] badum pish [14:20] my kind of jokes on the show this time it seems [14:21] * AllHailFSM has quit IRC (AllHailFSM) [14:21] * Nanashi has quit IRC (Nanashi) [14:22] * Mule has joined #nonprophets [14:22] Des that include lying? [14:22] Ha! [14:23] * kidigus has left #nonprophets [14:23] Allow him or her to trick you [14:23] * Daneel has joined #nonprophets [14:23] him or her [14:23] * kidigus has joined #nonprophets [14:23] * raffles has joined #nonprophets [14:23] Man my atheist group last night accidentally did a pub crawl because we were cheated out of free tickets to the Museum of Science IMAX movie [14:23] Hell yes, zazzle rules cause they make shirts that fit me ;p [14:23] So you stayed home and watched the hottie and the nottie instead? [14:24] Atheist ads will be in Boston this summer [14:24] cool [14:24] what a shock [14:24] I would love some atheist ads here, but noone would give a shit [14:25] Their existence offends ME [14:25] of course it does [14:25] nice accent [14:25] I'm curious to see how Boston will react given our state is very liberal [14:25] Southhampton or South hampshire? [14:25] sounds like a broken english person [14:25] Big difference. [14:25] I love the speech Dawkins did on 'being offended' [14:25] mmm... nicotine. [14:25] as an atheist i would have a problem driving a bus with pro xtian messages [14:25] Russell has never been on an English bus! [14:25] Pie and British accents! [14:26] he can always QUIT [14:26] and take up a job where your trade doesn't involve large advert on the side of your venue.. [14:26] Just do a half-assed job 'till you get fired. [14:26] nope I never have [14:26] I've been to Mexico and France, but not England [14:26] I had a conversation about offense last night at the bar. My buddy Calvin says being offended is the weakest stance you can have in an argument. Once you say you're offended, you've lost the argument [14:26] it's interesting how important religions can be too people without followers being willing to sacrifice anything for it [14:26] if i was an xtian bus driver id jus floor it and let people pray for their safety [14:26] he shouldn't be a driver - you know, the whole being taken away during the rapture thing... [14:26] England is the best, they have doctor who. [14:26] bHAHA [14:26] Thtay above 50! [14:26] I've been to England, but not Mexico or France, so between us we're covered. [14:27] Eilonnwy: Agreed. "I'm offended" means "I don't like this, but have no reason why." [14:27] Spot on, NJ. [14:27] I also think that in a free society you don't have a right to not be offended [14:27] I used to live in England, I really liked there [14:27] no "im offended" means "WAAAH IM AN ATTENTION WHORE LISTEN TO ME!" [14:27] whats the big deal though... he's driving the bus he doesnt have to look at the advertisments all day [14:27] He should had been sacked or at least suspended without pay. [14:27] Well you either ARe offended or you aren't. [14:27] Well, sure. Only offensive speech needs protection. [14:27] The law can't legislate for feelings. [14:28] I'm offended by people who think child abuse is ok [14:28] on the other hand.. i would have a problem with driving a bus wih mcdonalds adds too [14:28] Be glad you live in a country that allows open offensiveness. [14:28] I'm offended by people who think anyone deserves to burn for eternity [14:28] im offended by things... maybe [14:28] I wonder if the people whose bus that was were okay with him "just going home"? [14:28] I am. Every day. More and more. [14:28] That doesn't mean I shouldn't take it for granted. [14:28] Will he refuse to drive buses withy Lotto ads, gambling is a sin [14:29] boreas, LOL! [14:29] YES! [14:29] But would you ever drive a bus with a swastika? [14:29] checkmate [14:29] Just saying, it's not a bad thing necessarily to be offended [14:29] Will i be getting paid? [14:29] I'm sure that burning would get old after about six days. [14:29] if it's paying my check? [14:29] YES [14:29] I woud drive it :S [14:29] yes I would, we're in a recession darnit, beggars can't be choosey [14:29] I wouldn't drive a bus with a swastika because I would be scared of getting beat up [14:29] I agree, Shilling [14:29] MONIES! [14:29] swastikas arent likely to appear on buses [14:29] XD [14:29] seriously. non sequitor [14:29] It's not about judging the bus driver, it's about the bus driver allowing others to see the advert. [14:29] Can you imagine what the fundies will say if one of those busses gets into an accident? [14:29] Okay a swastika with little crucifixes dangling from it ffs [14:29] there is probably some rule prohibiting that specifically [14:30] The ad was legal. He has no defense for walking off the job. [14:30] Stupid people think actors are their characters [14:30] Jeebus, hadn't thought of that [14:30] sound? [14:30] you look down on the people who bought out the space [14:30] Jesus thinks he's Jim Caviezel [14:30] I love Tide! A bus told me so. [14:31] Hasnt anyone seen The Producers? Nazis can be funny! [14:31] Uhh, what about violent irrational people? [14:31] shouldn't we tailor laws to deal with them when they act up? [14:31] these are the same people who believe in an all-powerful tooth fairy, so.. [14:31] "I've got news for you" is one of those smarmy phrases, like "Last time I checked", that is best never said. [14:31] http://suitcoatday.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/hammerzeit.jpg [14:31] I hate last I looked because it's a grammatical catastrophe [14:32] * Aud has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [14:32] I'd expect people to complain to the bus driver. [14:32] and expect the driver to pass on the complaint. [14:32] If they brought fruit in advance [14:32] "how dare your bus not believe in god!" [14:32] lol [14:32] casting the first stone? [14:32] the fact that the bus driver doesn't quit his job when being told to drive a bus like that would be reason enough for some people to hurt him [14:32] Do people in Atheist t-shirts get attacked in the USA? [14:32] The bus is a nonbeliver [14:33] depends boreas [14:33] I think - people- get attacked in the USA [14:33] I have an atheist shirt and I've never been attacked so far -_^ [14:33] remember the Top Gear episode where the drove the cars with slogans through Alabama? [14:33] depends where you live [14:33] Because it's the USA and people shoot their own signs [14:33] I wear my atheist hat, quite often, and have never received as much as a remark about it. [14:33] dude imagine how much money you'd get sueing the person that attacked you for driving that bus though! [14:33] you'd be rich [14:33] everything, they were asking for it, literally [14:33] Some signs need shootin', says I. [14:33] Surely the same would hold true for the bus [14:33] I remember this [14:33] Their OWN signs [14:34] the crazy wife again... [14:34] Yield, my ass. [14:34] #In perfect harmony [14:34] I ove my State so much I'm gonna fire some bullets through it. Think what they'll do to what they dislike [14:34] woah deja vu [14:34] ive heard this story before [14:34] I think Matt told us about this last week but with a different point [14:35] I think that we should put all black people in "protective custody", just in case some looney decides to attack them. Yeah, that's it. [14:35] (Disclaimer : Topics may get repeated) [14:35] I want to see a sign that just says, "MOVE!". [14:35] I agree, it reminds me of the atmosphere post 911 when people were so afraid of terrorism when they still had more chance of dying in a car accident. I can't stand when people are irrationally afraid [14:35] I wanna see a sign that says "$50 Fine for Reading this sign" [14:36] point is, i live in NYC and im waiting for a bus. i wont get on a bus with ads i agree with or not [14:36] He just didn't want to distribute the message. [14:36] it just get on [14:36] The driver is a bigot. I heard him on a radio interview. [14:36] didn't he sign a contract upon being hired? [14:36] We had a little touch of that post-9/11 madness when our London Met shot an innocent Brazillian in the face. [14:36] that he could not call off regardless of product placement? [14:36] i'm in the UK still a bunch of religonerds here [14:36] It was shortly after the July 7 bombings. [14:36] miracle on the hudson? [14:36] next [14:37] Good, prosecute those idiots [14:37] lol [14:37] http://news.softpedia.com/news/No-God-Bus-Ads-Banned-in-Genoa-Italy-102314.shtml [14:37] ugh. [14:37] Not this shit again. [14:37] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/4287979/Catholic-Church-blocks-plans-for-atheist-bus-adverts.html [14:37] fuck [14:37] Smooth move. [14:37] BOUT GODDAMN TIME! [14:37] agreed. [14:37] So isnt this crminal negligence? [14:37] poor girl [14:37] they faith wasnt strong enough [14:37] remembe4r that poor little kid who was refused insulin? [14:37] No, because religion was involved. [14:37] their [14:37] Negligent homicide? [14:37] God hates diabetics. [14:37] So it's "ignorance." [14:37] poor kid [14:38] GO OFF AGAIN! [14:38] (But not in a sexual way this time Matt) [14:38] If God heals the faithful why are amputees ignored? [14:38] second-degree theolocide [14:38] HA! [14:38] When Matt went off on them on AE I fucking cried. This shit pisses me off too [14:38] Theolicide! I love it. [14:38] Otherwaie known as Why Won't God Heal Amputees .com [14:38] I thought you were against thought crimes, Matt? [14:39] I'd say that was one of the best episodes. [14:39] 7.7 [14:39] eilon...which ep was that [14:39] yep good site. Im gonna read it again [14:39] I don't remember the episode because I've backtracked and watched soooo many [14:39] yeah [14:39] It's 7.7 [14:39] he said it was AE [14:39] willful nonaction [14:40] Not sure I can listen to that again. [14:40] but they dont see it that way [14:40] in effect, god killed their child [14:40] He went off on AE and non-prophets [14:40] hahaha [14:40] The AE one made me cry [14:41] You covered such a case, it may even be these parents! [14:41] They'll never realise it though. [14:41] what are some keywords i can loke for [14:41] look* [14:41] "my kid is in a better place now" [14:41] how orwellian [14:41] If the episode is 7.7 on non-prophets I can figure out the AE episode, give me a minute [14:41] Shilling- By then time you let you kid die. Your too far gone. [14:42] if it's not murder, it's at least insanity [14:42] christians are never wrong :) [14:42] God wanted my kid dead........... That make sense. [14:42] She actually is. [14:42] the investment aspect is what keeps scientology going [14:42] Prison works. [14:43] they're personal relationship with god results in them knowing what to do in all cases :) [14:43] Prison makes them even harder for Jesus. [14:43] let them give their undivided attention to their god in a padded cell, where their delusionally dangerous behavior can't hurt anyone else [14:43] The AE episode should be #546 if the non prophets one is 7.7 [14:43] ty:) [14:43] Oh right. [14:43] It's denial [14:43] Agreed. [14:43] it's detachement from reality [14:43] ...after they've commited the crime that is. They are innocent until proven guilty, after all [14:44] regardless of their belief in leprachauns [14:44] anyone else saw the interview with Jason Beghe on xenu.net? really interesting stuff [14:44] the actor? [14:44] Kid gets sick, parents do nothing, kid dies, parents go to jail. Oh wait! They're religious parents! Well that's different! HOW!? [14:44] My mom thinks god told her that he mother was going to die and then some psychic told her it was her great uncle or something. *shakes head* [14:44] zeffii: yes [14:44] http://www.childrenshealthcare.org/victims.htm - The Swans left the Christian Science church shortly after their son's death and later founded CHILD [14:45] yep, good speaker [14:45] ex scientologist [14:45] but boring subject after 20 minutes :) [14:45] could I say that God told me to stab someone, that the blade would miraculously heal instead of harm? [14:45] that I healed them into the grave? :-p [14:45] awesome, good Judge [14:45] Try [14:45] 25 big ones [14:45] * aud has joined #nonprophets [14:45] * AtheistLurker has quit IRC (AtheistLurker) [14:46] If the kid died waiting to be fed with mana, how is that different. [14:46] Cool - distinction between belief and actual action [14:46] YAY [14:46] * AtheistLurker has joined #nonprophets [14:46] yay!! [14:46] I'm going to see how many goats I can sacrifice before I get in trouble, claiming it's my "sincere religious belief." [14:46] * Mummi has quit IRC (Mummi) [14:46] way to go! [14:46] as long as you're not wasting, Izzem. [14:46] I'll bring the mint jelly! [14:46] Now, now, you THINk it's okay to do it. Just don't do it. [14:47] *can think [14:47] Oh yea, I'll cook em. Hell, I'll wrestle em to death. Make it fair. [14:47] HA! [14:47] there are people in China who don't have enough goats to sacrafice. [14:47] http://www.childrenshealthcare.org/ - Children's Healthcare Is a Legal Duty (CHILD, Inc.) is a non-profit national membership organization established in 1983 to protect children from abusive religious and cultural practices, especially religion-based medical neglect. [14:47] Wave a red flag in its face, and when it looks at you confused, stab it inthe eye. [14:47] Ooh, DI! [14:47] Founded by ex-Christian Scientists [14:48] but even the book of job teaches it is good for parents to onlyfocus on their love of god [14:48] prettymuch fuck everything else [14:48] trial by fire for the kids, eh? [14:48] Let them think they've got a victory [14:48] * Jeebus has quit IRC (Jeebus) [14:48] heh heh heh [14:48] Yea, and there's the whole "stone unruly children" thing. [14:48] I'm sure it probably says to kill them if they're infidels as well. [14:49] Christianity is a religion of peace though; right along with Islam. [14:49] old testament should be stripped from the bible [14:49] large part of the problem solved. [14:49] Read the bible! If the stoning is stupid and/or cruel it's a metaphor. [14:49] I still can't decide if the Bible is so much less intrinsically violent than The Quran. [14:49] is there another kind kidigus? [14:49] yes [14:50] Strengths and weaknesses of evolution and a good textbook can be a better source for atheism than a good textbook for evolution alone [14:50] Hmmm. I see your point. [14:50] ...that doesn't come from the end of a J? [14:50] I think it's just the overtly politial dimension to the Quran that makes it feellike you've been sat in front of Hitler for 10 hours. [14:50] hunt the peppered moth to its extinction! [14:50] quran, let us judge the book by its most vocal proponents :) [14:50] Well yes, but my feeling is Islam is where Christianity used to be. [14:51] The Quran is definitly the more hilarious one. [14:51] I just don't feel like waiting that long - given it's much easier to kill everyone now. [14:51] I had a youtube clip where a dude was saying there's a tree that Jews can hide behind and it hides them from Allah. So they should burn down all those kind of trees. [14:51] i read a few suras, pointless drivvle [14:51] i guess islam is some 600 years behind christianity in moral development :P [14:52] you teach the reason why we adopted the theory - the evidence for it. [14:52] Islam's biggest evil is that it says the worst sin is feigning belief. That's how you get the "F"anatic. [14:52] Evolution: Pros - Fact, Voluminous evidence, Genetics. Cons - makes Jesus cry. [14:52] jesus is a bitch [14:52] It's a shame because there was a point when they were embracing sciences and it looked like they were about to have a reformation - and then they retreated back to their fundamntals again. [14:52] Everything makes Jesus cry. [14:52] I still fail to see why people have trouble saying "I dont know". [14:52] jesus had a chiwawa [14:53] ego [14:53] Chihuahua [14:53] yes [14:53] thank you golden [14:53] one of those [14:53] From beverly Hills [14:53] wait.. was that a terrible pun, zeff? [14:53] but in his days, it was still chiwawa [14:53] no. just me ripping on a non existant entity [14:54] good. because that would have been terrible [14:54] the Chihuahua? [14:54] Are chihuahuas more prone to convert FROM Islam or TO Islam? [14:54] :) [14:54] chi-waaahwaaaah -__- [14:54] They're strangely silent on the matter. [14:54] Les Nessman taught me how to spell Chihuahua. [14:54] Muslims tend to treat dogs as unclean, so I'd say FROM. [14:54] chihuahua is a dog, and therefor a disgusting animal in islam [14:55] chihuahua is a rat [14:55] Yeah but they also treat women as unclean [14:55] they are fucked in the head [14:55] wow, Islam and I agree on something [14:55] Pfff, give me their women, I'll clean them. [14:55] Zing [14:55] It's a nice point Zeffii [14:55] All animals are disgusting. You should see my toilet. [14:55] * NeutronJack pets his chihuahua: Xena, Warrior Puppy. [14:55] plenty of hot arabian ladies [14:55] pass [14:55] seriously [14:55] Definitly. [14:55] * Criggster_ has joined #nonprophets [14:55] Jasmine was fit as f*ck [14:55] yes! [14:56] once you lift the veil [14:56] so to speak [14:56] Though she was clearly from Burbank [14:56] back on topic [14:56] Yes Lesbians [14:56] jasmine who? [14:56] How do they? [14:56] what? motts what [14:56] pardon my ignorance :) [14:56] I'm thinking of taking a tour to the middle east to "liberate" as many women as I can. [14:56] izzem.. dangerous :) [14:56] I think too many women are "liberated" in the middle east already. [14:57] ... That sounded... So chauvinistic in retrospect. [14:57] I'm going to stop now. [14:57] liberated by uncles brothers and fathers [14:57] RETROSPECT? [14:57] can i liberate sweden? [14:57] Simple rule: don't teach or test hypotheses in high school. [14:57] * Criggster has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [14:57] * Criggster_ is now known as Criggster [14:57] can they teach hypotenuese? [14:58] nope [14:58] degrees of kevin bacon [14:58] What about anal play? [14:58] Gus the Hippotenuese? [14:58] No. No Hs. [14:58] anal plays somethin you learn at church [14:58] My next nickname shall be Jewington Analplay. [14:58] Zing! [14:59] The greatest name ever invented for comedic effect. [14:59] Ballsy McNutsack. [14:59] heheh [14:59] Asswipe Johnson was pretty good. [14:59] nuh - didn't like that as much [14:59] what about Barf? [15:00] or Achoo, son of Asneeze? [15:00] ooch [15:00] nope [15:00] it burns [15:00] it stings [15:00] Bob Loblaw from arrested development [15:00] Never got into that show [15:00] love that show [15:00] that's my favorite comedic name [15:00] Bob Loblaw's Law Blog. [15:00] Hootie McBoob [15:00] Bob Loblaw lobs law bomb [15:00] from the simpsons [15:00] * wgonzalez has quit IRC (leaving) [15:01] Chesty La'Rue [15:01] El Homo is too simple to ignore [15:01] And it's the gusto with which he introduces it [15:01] * NeutronJack has quit IRC [15:02] Not knowing everything is only a weakness to people who think they know everything. [15:03] very true [15:03] because how can we prove that god doesn't exist if we don't know everything? XD [15:03] or think they could possibly know everything [15:03] not knowing is the most fundamental human quality because we know that we dont know! [15:03] Or we care that we don't know [15:03] Christians don't. [15:03] they know everything. [15:04] Tell it, Matt! [15:04] In high school? [15:04] all they need to know [15:04] Hear, hear. [15:04] Russell's point about critical thinking lessons too is true. [15:04] "geebus loovs MEEE" [15:04] Have basic logic classes - x is therefore x is not/ [15:04] im with matt... one year of hs physics shouldnt try to explain supersysmetry [15:04] schilling sounds to be in his 20s [15:04] is he [15:05] hes probably in his 30s [15:05] most of them are [15:05] It's the whole, "cup half empty" kind of thing. [15:05] yeah [15:05] jeff i think is the oldest of them....maybe 45 or 46 [15:05] gotta get a kid before thhe age of 7 orso tho [15:05] The closest I got to critical thinkng classes was being taught electronic logic gates - where you have to understand the exclusive or [15:05] Scope? Scope?! SCOPE!?? *bang* [15:06] ... *Misses George* [15:06] scope, 30 seconds to a cleaner mouth [15:06] RIP [15:07] I wish I could have seen him on tour before he died. [15:07] There's a void in my life now. [15:07] you still have eddie izzard [15:07] hes a vehement athiest [15:07] * eimerian has joined #nonprophets [15:07] if a parent wants to keep the kid ignorant, it will be ingrained very early [15:07] Luckily he left a ton of material behind. [15:08] we need more Bill Nye's [15:08] True. I have electronic memories. But they'll only last as long as my hard drive. [15:08] No child left behind seems inextricably linked to No child's behind left [15:08] i met a 21 y/o girl who thought islands floated. [15:08] Hell yes, Adam Savage. [15:08] I've been going through mythbusters [15:08] * Christian has joined #nonprophets [15:08] (adventist) [15:08] Yeah, MythBusters! [15:08] on season 3 now [15:08] He's the new Bill Nye in my mind. [15:08] Yeah Kari! [15:08] No child left behind = all childs raptured? [15:08] lol [15:08] matt, ane everyone. here isa great explanatin on how to do it [15:09] ...mathbusters? thats not a hard title to come up with [15:09] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu-_PvllpJc [15:09] muffbusters [15:09] ew [15:09] re Mythbusters, why does there have to be a warning before science content? [15:09] (sex ed) [15:09] maybe, zeff, but how many fully-grown adults have you met that call evolution "random happening"? :-( [15:09] brian green (leading string theorist) explains how to make science fun and enthralling [15:09] I was refrring to the education problem in general best typified by that woefully field program [15:09] *failed [15:10] My son just got his math grade up to an A! Yeah, Nick! [15:10] hey do you guys think that Psych counts as a skeptic show? [15:10] Russell - where can I find the book "Innumeracy"? [15:10] Sort of. [15:11] haha kidigus my eyes diverted and i read "my son just failed math yay!" [15:11] amazon? [15:11] bluegrass, in a way i think people dont understand the meaning of random either [15:11] http://www.amazon.com/Innumeracy-Mathematical-Illiteracy-Consequences-Vintage/dp/0679726012 [15:11] hah [15:11] Tada... the internet makes me magic [15:11] woot [15:11] showoff [15:11] "The Mentalist" is better, I think. [15:11] :) [15:11] Nice pronunciation. [15:12] Arbeit Macht Freedomefries [15:12] Smooth [15:12] it's like the farside cartoon "Pull" [15:12] YES [15:12] h-d...HA! [15:13] I just hiveminded Matt. Awesome. [15:13] deba-cle? [15:13] tasty abortion [15:13] haha! [15:13] "Got aborted?" [15:13] even though being pro-choice is not pro-abortion [15:13] don't they server fetus soup in China? [15:13] *serve [15:13] because I'm pro-choice but not pro-abortion [15:13] uhm i doubt it blue [15:13] All doughnuts are good. [15:14] i want a donut now [15:14] IF freedom of choice = abortion democracy = nazism [15:14] "And it's an umbilical cord across the roof of their mouth [15:14] saw it on discovery channel [15:14] elon who IS pro abortion? [15:14] erin brokovitch screwed my dog skip [15:14] true [15:14] because the Germans elected Hitler didnt they? [15:14] Reminds me of Doug Stanhope. "I'm pro-choice. Talk someone into it. Highways are too crowded as it is." [15:14] I'm pro-apathy [15:14] but it's sad that pro-lifers can't get the distinction [15:14] i agree [15:14] meh. [15:14] lol [15:15] I just don't understand how wrecking someone's vcagina THAT badly is seen as normal but killing a bunch of cells is inhumane [15:15] Now I'm starving. [15:15] hmm i dont know [15:15] moment of silence isnt prayer necessairy [15:15] * Pony has joined #nonprophets [15:15] its nota moment of prayer [15:15] prolife symbol is coathanger [15:15] Depends on what the moment of silence is for. [15:15] forced silence promotes nihilism [15:15] if its unspecified its fine [15:15] It's for the people who didn't die in the Hudson River [15:15] would you drive a bus with a bloody coathanger on it? :-P [15:15] Silence is when we think of boobs. [15:16] HAAHAH [15:16] .. weird [15:16] moment of science [15:16] (or cock) [15:16] mmmm [15:16] Sorry EEA. [15:16] I'm now googling Rick Warren [15:17] So Help Me Fishfingers [15:17] Why do we have all those prayer ceremonies after a swearing in anyhow? [15:17] The benediction prayer was cool for me. [15:17] Watch Dan Dennett on TED answering Warren. Poetry. [15:17] is this shilling guy there JUST to be a foil for these guys? [15:17] swearing is unbiblical, really [15:17] Wikipedia says Megachurch - so I'll allow my prejudice to precede me. [15:17] Shilling is there because he's awesome. [15:18] * JustWonder has joined #nonprophets [15:18] http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ted.com%2Findex.php%2Ftalks%2Fdan_dennett_s_response_to_rick_warren.html&ei=f4V7SYuiK4TSMdvcnJkH&usg=AFQjCNHqVyI2wDWqA8V-WiLriyJBAmxUnA&sig2=IRi_osZEtUsOQ8w8lCwd9w [15:18] when you say megachurch, i think of Mecastrysand [15:18] PRICK Warren? [15:18] Ah-thank you. [15:18] Oops. [15:18] They worship Megatron? [15:18] Rick Boring [15:18] Asshole kissing their ass? [15:18] LMAO! [15:19] http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/dan_dennett_s_response_to_rick_warren.html [15:19] Smooth blue grass [15:19] i wonder is there coke machines in megachurches [15:19] and popcorn [15:19] That's better. [15:19] probably Crystal Meth labs [15:19] But no coke [15:19] * Artto has joined #nonprophets [15:19] " i love this preacher, he's amazing - Muhnch munch nyom mnyom " [15:19] free doughnuts and biblical rock [15:19] ugh [15:20] Do the crystals add flavor to meth? [15:20] great for the sugar highs [15:20] I think it's a different situation. [15:20] Jello Crystal Meth [15:20] snorted, of course [15:20] No the crystals just grant you more time in the dome. [15:20] What I miss most about being a catholic are the pancakes. [15:20] billy crystal> [15:20] pancakes? [15:21] Shrove tuesday [15:21] i never understood ash thursday [15:21] (thursday?) [15:21] I miss the cult-like hymn-chants from Presbyterian church.. oh wait [15:21] Ash wednesday [15:21] lol [15:21] people wearing the smudgemark on the forehead? [15:21] Maundy thursday [15:21] Good friday [15:21] i saw that first in 2004 [15:22] i was like.. dude.. you have pooop on your forehead [15:22] Yesh-u-huh. [15:22] Our priest couldn't draw a cross worth a shit. [15:22] No cross is worth a shit. [15:22] he's a priest.. that should be part of his entry exam to the cult right [15:22] like god cares about you putting a smudge on your forehead [15:22] touché [15:22] hand-eye coordination decreases significantly when you're wearing that tarp of a robe [15:22] HA! [15:22] and partaking from the holy wine [15:23] whaaaa? [15:23] We didn't get the wine. we had to watch the priest drain that. [15:23] oh did roberts really say it first? [15:23] hmm.. do priests give a BBC? Blood Blood Content? [15:23] rought [15:23] so help me kitchen utensil [15:23] BBC! HA! [15:23] yeah it wasnt offensive but unnecessary [15:23] So Help Me Zoloft [15:24] I dislike the use of the BBC being a synonym for shit [15:24] he aint more or less presient with G-D [15:24] BBC? [15:24] i dont get it [15:24] oaths are stupid anyway. [15:24] So help me Anoia (Goddess of things stuck in kitchen drawers) [15:24] that case was full of a bunch of childish stuff [15:24] which is why it went nowhere [15:24] Whassat ocifer? Unner the influince! Hell yeah! The influence of Christ's Blood! [15:24] ocifer down! [15:25] He better be. [15:25] People are shootin'. [15:25] vampires for christ? [15:25] * Sparrowhawk has quit IRC [15:25] __________what?!!!!_________ [15:25] probably an old joke there [15:26] Still works, z. [15:26] I'm a high school student in Illinois... the moment of silence is not enforced [15:26] Hey, before the show ends -- any Left 4 Dead players here? [15:26] They have to do the moment of silence in Texas [15:26] Kazim27 is my steam ID if you want to join me sometime :) [15:26] Nope. [15:26] LEft 4 dead? [15:26] Dwarf Fortress. [15:26] good game [15:26] DWARF FORTRESSSSS [15:26] is that a fps? [15:26] Let's all play a succession game. [15:27] well [15:27] my question is what's the atheist alternative? [15:27] <-(game ignoramus) [15:27] first person shooter [15:27] a moment of loudness? [15:27] oh [15:27] http://www.l4d.com/ [15:27] misread [15:27] Movie worth watching even if you don't play [15:27] as "whats a fps" [15:27] We should have a Steam group :O [15:27] Or is that... Too much? [15:27] thanks kazim [15:27] What is that like a Swedish thing or something? [15:28] but i have a thesis to write :) [15:28] has anyone here seen The Big Kahuna with spacey and devito [15:28] teacher: "arbitrary self-reflection" :-P [15:28] DF is like Nethack. From the mad genius Tarn Adams. [15:28] No but I have seen Spacey in Swimming with Sharks [15:28] Amazing film. [15:28] see the big kahun! [15:28] moment of zen? [15:28] And no one's seen it. [15:28] kahuna* [15:28] its about atheists vs creationists [15:28] a Zen Minute [15:28] its slow, 3 people ina roomtalking [15:28] but its intense [15:29] * nick_van has joined #nonprophets [15:29] or Tao Time XD [15:29] Frost/Nixon is 2 people in a room talking [15:29] phonebooth, anyone? [15:29] But I'm damn sure gonna see that [15:29] show over? [15:29] Wasn't one of them Nixon? Or was it Frost. [15:29] Apperently noy [15:29] Phew! [15:29] Frost. Jack Frost [15:29] yeah both frost nixon and TBK were adapted from plays [15:29] * GodsDreadlocks has joined #nonprophets [15:30] Frost. Robert Frost. :-p [15:30] I looked at that again - I thought it read TDK [15:30] the big kahuna [15:30] Flake... Frosted Flake. [15:30] yeah the dark knight was a play [15:30] hah [15:30] you didnt see it? [15:30] it was a musical [15:30] LOL! [15:30] WHYYYY SOOO SERIOOUS! [15:30] Oh yea, NOW you like year round. [15:30] (On ice) [15:30] Now that you're out of school. [15:30] BIAAAAAAAAS [15:31] i guarantee it will be a broadway production [15:31] What? [15:31] why so rational? [15:31] most coverage praises the pilot [15:31] IN NEW YORK its all miracle miracle miracle [15:31] Really the water deserves praise for not being concrete or aan Islamic extremist [15:31] * raffles has quit IRC (raffles) [15:31] i live in the city and thats all they say [15:31] what makes you think Quantity will be conducive to quality? [15:32] True, GG. [15:32] Walks on Water Airlines [15:32] * wxproof has joined #nonprophets [15:32] lol [15:32] Miricle of modern engineering [15:32] ? [15:32] indeed [15:33] every conversation has the big agreement moment about it though, shillings [15:33] "but truly this was a miracle" "oh yeah sure" "harumph harumph harumph" [15:33] Maybe you should sell yourself matt [15:33] http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8-vhyqx_Duc Edward Current : Give God Some More Credit! [15:33] a miracle would be if none of the luggage is lost [15:33] "I didn't get a harumph out of that guy" [15:33] Don't find Current that funny [15:34] if everybody died but 1 person that would have been declared a miracle too [15:34] yeah but in NYC itsall "miracle miralce miracle" [15:34] But i love his animations [15:34] if everyone died but the one guy, who was MIRACULOUSLY left braindead [15:34] get back in your place, science! [15:34] if everyone died in the river it would have been a miracle that no skyscrapers where hit [15:34] Baaa! [15:34] for god to actually direct two geese into two engines was miraculous, yeah [15:34] :) [15:34] That's no small thing. [15:35] Well if by miraculous you mean hilarious [15:35] Shilling is very right [15:35] yes Thad [15:35] Nuh uh. [15:35] I agree [15:35] GWB mentioned people without religion too [15:35] non believers? That's me! [15:35] It's nice to be acknowledged [15:35] Guys, Bush ALWAYS acknowledged nonbelievers [15:35] so stfu [15:35] did former US presidents say that atheists dont exist? [15:35] non believers is a euphamism [15:35] Science! get back in your cell! [15:35] Shilling, you're wrong. [15:35] Science is Gitmo's last inamtes [15:36] *inmate [15:36] we where the guys flying airplanes into buildings, because those wheren't Muslims remember [15:36] It is to me Shilling [15:36] The rocket cleared the gantry. [15:36] you have to say non-believer because you dont want to hurt the feeling of an agnostic by calling him an atheist [15:36] Exactly Thad [15:36] And you're bitching about not being on the moon. [15:36] Pffffffffffffffff. [15:36] Did Muslims really say Praise Obama [15:37] No, but he did acknowledge them [15:37] the end of an era/8 year error [15:37] And that is significant [15:38] i loved what John Oliver said on Channel 4 after he was accused of being in for a humourless few years : [15:38] I think freethinkers could be construed as a dirty word. [15:38] "Are you seriously suggesting if Al Gore had became President, nothing funny would have happened? [15:38] Non-believer is PC. It is safe. [15:38] clever [15:38] its a euphamism [15:38] hah, I was a Ron Paul supporter. I had no horse in this race :-( [15:38] It almost implies to the believer that they're not free of thought. [15:38] GWB quote -"In our country, we recognize our fellow citizens are free to profess any faith they choose, or no faith at all. You are equally American if you're a Hebrew--a Jew or a Christian or a Muslim. You're equally American if you choose not to have faith. It is important America never forget the great freedom to worship as you so choose." [15:39] an on busses [15:39] Sorry, bg. [15:39] Yeah but he also did - [15:39] His father was of different opinion wasn't he? [15:39] CUT TO THE DANCE FOOTAGE [15:39] I like that ad, it's tastefully done [15:39] everythings a euphamism because you can always think of something worse to say [15:39] * Trybanpherto has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120121]) [15:39] http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o160/ChisaiUsagi/ahaad.jpg [15:39] obama add [15:39] nah [15:39] http://gigapan.org/viewGigapanFullscreen.php?auth=033ef14483ee899496648c2b4b06233c [15:40] a euphamism is a deliberate rewording so not as to offend [15:40] zoom in [15:40] yeah [15:40] It's the opposite of blasphemy, right? [15:40] So, both of Obama's parents are atheists? [15:40] sorry to hear about your grandmother passing away vs haha youre granny kicked the bucket.... [15:40] ooh - I like that. [15:41] How did he end up in bed with christ? [15:41] Obama's been president for what, four days now, can't we just wait to see what he does before we declare him a friend/foe of atheism [15:41] It's from that chapter that Hitchens deduces that Obama is still an atheist or an agnostic [15:41] wine. [15:41] Yeah, my coworker who went to the unauguration who said lots of people were praying everywhere [15:41] And that's when he accused him of shopping for a religion [15:41] or calling something a god instead of a figment of imagination? [15:41] first 100 days wxproof [15:41] Shilling is right [15:41] he's got 96 left. ;-) [15:41] What was his grandma? [15:41] My coworker who is black never met an atheist till I told her I was one [15:41] (Other than dead?) [15:42] Sam Harris seems to think Obama isn't as religious as he makes out [15:42] Awesome, a room of geeky white dudes discussing the black community. Really guys. [15:42] And she thought all atheists were dumb and I corrected her view [15:42] Very few people are as religious as the seem. [15:42] lighten up now, the proverbial hair is still up [15:42] unless you're an objectionist! [15:42] they. [15:42] well I'm not an obectionist [15:42] Video is from 2005 [15:42] matt's brain rsync's to reality [15:42] Or atheist. [15:43] every hour, using cron [15:43] LOL [15:43] pronouns rule! [15:43] yay for stats 101 [15:43] Oh goodie [15:43] * GodsDreadlocks has quit IRC (GodsDreadlocks) [15:43] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD97OVJ4PNw&feature=channel_page [15:44] i miss jeff dee [15:44] I don't [15:44] tnx for video :D [15:44] I don't ever since he bullied a little girl and called her a plaigiarist [15:44] And at Christmas time as well [15:44] photos of aborted babies? [15:44] woahh. [15:44] intense [15:44] I agree Golden Guy, I listened to it recently and was greatly annoyed [15:45] i did this question; got a bunch of "woman is a victim!" [15:45] That Eilonn [15:45] depends...is the kid an asshole [15:45] Too heavy. [15:45] Any position other than "You wrote this" is potentially offensive [15:45] jeff dee bullies a little girl? [15:45] grow a pair [15:46] He went on forever about if a little girl wrote this fantastic atheist-style letter herself. [15:46] if men could get abortions, would they still consider the man a victim? [15:46] must have missed that EP [15:46] movign on.. [15:46] true [15:46] Oh please - that's a really overblown description of what happened. [15:46] There was a non prophet episode where Jeff got too offended by a girl who wrote well [15:47] my best friend is a vegan, she's still cool [15:47] It's not. He went on and on and grew really angry. [15:47] and the hour long rant agains dennis about freewill [15:47] that was fucked. [15:47] i know a vegan who is SO hardcore she wont eat Ritz bc of the butter [15:47] I love the free will episode [15:47] As I remember it, he just got really wrapped up in the technical definition of plagiarism and forgot about the context. [15:47] Seriously, if you went back and listened to it zef you'd say 'That's what they're talking about..??" [15:47] ok christians i will [15:47] -s [15:47] I know I'm the only one, but I loved the Free Will thing and I thought Denis did a great job. :) [15:47] typin in lolcat [15:48] Love the Free Will ep. Posted it on YouTube [15:48] i was pro dennis too in that ep [15:48] The episode where it happened is 6.2 "The William Show" [15:48] I - still don't know. [15:48] I agree with Denis 100%. [15:48] Meat IS murder. Meat is also TASTY! [15:48] Agreed. [15:48] tasty indeed [15:49] tasty murder [15:49] medicine against a disease is murder [15:49] so? [15:49] mmm... murder. [15:49] If you are ok with killing and eating other kinds of animals, are you ok with killing and eating humans (anothe kind of animal) with the same level of intelligence? [15:49] protean in murder!? [15:49] now he cant say "no you dont look fat" hes on the record saying its a lie [15:49] How about I like fat asses [15:49] its actually not murder but self-defense [15:49] protene ?.. damn. toomuch lolcats today [15:49] well EEA - is that a bias based on arbitrary societal barriers? [15:50] I'd argue it is because there ARE cannibals out there [15:50] adulty is unethical, but not illegal [15:50] so clearly it's not an objective rule [15:50] adultry is a fucked up concept [15:50] circumscision inst wrong [15:50] Shilling - have you ever thought about your mother... [15:50] the same sort of punishment as female circumcision [15:50] oh [15:50] hm [15:50] speaking of which, I just won a gold medal in weightlifting in China. [15:51] ...talking about the show, not female circumcision [15:51] how about female circumcision that removes an equivalent amount of skin? [15:51] As a female, I get sick to my stomach thinking about female circumcision [15:51] * stephen has quit IRC (stephen) [15:51] a HOLY scalpel? [15:51] lol [15:51] I don't miss my foreskin at all. [15:51] If you read Infidel it's explained in detail [15:51] no theyre not the same... female circumsision removes the the clitoris.. not just some forskin [15:51] OUOUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCHH [15:51] * Daneel has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120122]) [15:52] i was born without eyelids. they used my foreskin to make lids...now im all cockeyed [15:52] It removes the clitoris, the labia, and sews it together leaving a tiny hole for menstration and pee [15:52] Male and female are both senseless mutilation. [15:52] thanks guys for the show! [15:52] it depends on the kind of female circumcision, but let's assume that the female circumcision only clips off a tiny bit of flesh covering the clit? [15:52] equivalent to a male circumcision. [15:52] great show! [15:52] if she's ugly [15:52] Cock-eyed! [15:52] I'll be here :D [15:52] It does not clip a tiny bit of flesh [15:52] thanks guys [15:52] And you want a new baby [15:52] if someone wants to peel their banana, that's fine.. but to make that decision for someone else is not ok.. [15:52] dunno what positive effect it would have [15:52] thats not what it really is though [15:52] it completely mutilates it [15:52] * eimerian has quit IRC (eimerian) [15:52] not bad at all for my first podcast XD [15:52] that's a specific kind of female circumcision, there are different levels. [15:52] So help us what? [15:52] cutting of the hood wouldnt really bother me [15:52] Good job bg! [15:53] It wouldn't?? [15:53] haha [15:53] you're something of a celebrity, Matt [15:53] kidigus: did you have your foreskin long enuff to get to use it? [15:53] Ok, I'm obviously going to have to do some more thinking...about the "unethical"="should be illegal" thing (talking about the adultery comment)...but I think it works, if only as a general rule-of-thumb. (In part because I don't think adultery is ALWAYS unethical...but that's a detailed topic) [15:53] Off topic, but when can we expect Tracy or Jen, or someother representive of the female experience to appear on NP? They're cool, and they definately smell better. [15:53] how many babys have died from circumcision? [15:53] Word. [15:53] I am completely out of time, folks. Thanks again...feel free to correct me and stuff, just be patient waiting for responses. :) [15:53] Dawkins Bless [15:53] No, but I used to be pretty attached to it. [15:54] charity was quite sexy no? [15:54] Dunno how many but here's a page about it: http://www.cirp.org/library/death/ [15:54] I've got to log out and get the podcast uploaded. See you all in 2 weeks! [15:54] nice show, good job peoples [15:54] OH! One last thing [15:54] God B. Less [15:54] Happy trails Hans. [15:54] Actually, nevermind, I'll address it later. :) [15:54] lol...still mutilation is done for non medical reasons [15:54] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat Jan 24 15:54:32 2009