Session Start: Sat Dec 19 12:18:09 2009 Session Ident: #nonprophets [12:18] * Now talking in #nonprophets [12:18] * Topic is 'The Non-Prophets are LIVE at http://www.nonprophetsradio.com. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for show information.' [12:18] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Sep 05 13:05:33 [12:18] -> *nickserv* identify g0dl3ss0 [12:19] * mond has joined #nonprophets [12:19] I believe (without evidence) that what the CDMS in Minnessota detected were atheism particles from PZ Myers' brain. :-D * /msg: insufficient parameters [12:20] -> *chanserv* help [12:20] *Minnesota [12:25] * mond has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [12:31] * LykeX has joined #nonprophets [12:33] Its on!!!! [12:33] What? Now? [12:33] Hallelujah! [12:33] Yes! [12:34] C'mon iTunes... [12:34] \o/ [12:34] Take two [12:35] * mond has joined #nonprophets [12:35] "It's a Saturnalia miracle!" (Leonard, TBBT) [12:36] o.O [12:37] Let me guess, guys: new studio? [12:37] What, it's on? [12:37] All I hear is low noise [12:37] Techncal problems [12:37] clips of an audience? Oh now I get music. [12:37] Or pre-show checking [12:37] Ahh, that's probably it [12:38] * zeroday rocks left-right-left [12:38] Yes, I'm playing around to make sure everything still works [12:38] Thanks for verifying...sorry that you'll get to hear my second-favorite Christmas song a few times ;) [12:38] Awesome, Non-Prophets! [12:39] Play it again, Sam. [12:39] So far, the only problem is one I expected - the channel isn't registered so we can't get ops [12:39] We'll be thoroughly sick of it by the time the show starts [12:39] That's usually not a problem though [12:39] Nah, I'm done playing it for now. I've got to do some cleanup and setup mics... AFK [12:40] Oh. "Away From Keybord". It's been a while, must swap in my chat lingo again. [12:41] Hehe. [12:42] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLe7X5FTccc [12:42] * zeroday looking up "HEHE"... [12:42] gammy: Oh, you! [12:42] In all caps as well. How suave. [12:42] zeroday: :o [12:42] WMTSU [12:42] Oh, a TBBT clip! [12:43] Sheldor the conqueror! [12:44] * LykeX dons light leather armour [12:44] OIC -- oh, I see! xD [12:45] Sheldon is such a wonderful character [12:46] Agreed. I share many traits with Rajesh, though. [12:47] E.g. influence of ethanol on eloquence. [12:47] Really, I just tend to drunk dial [12:47] Not my best quality [12:48] Is it what I think it means, LykeX? Dialling phone numbers while inebriated? [12:48] yep [12:48] Do you record? [12:49] no, but that's interesting idea [12:49] It is! [12:49] on the other hand, I usually try to forget those occasions as much as possible [12:50] It can get awkward [12:50] I hear you. There are two particular stories from when I was dunk in public. Funny, but not for me. [12:50] *durnk [12:50] That's usually how it is [12:50] *drunk (not drunk now, I swear) [12:50] :D [12:51] Of course not, then you'd be eloquent, right [12:51] Exactly, LykeX. Wait. What? :D [12:51] ;) [12:51] Must be the phenylethylamine in my chocolate. [12:52] Does chocolate naturally have phenethylamine? [12:53] I think so. I've read it several times. On the web. Must be true. [12:53] wikipedia backs you [12:54] I wonder how easy it is tom extract and purify [12:54] So do the other top Google results. I'll go with it. Yeah, that's the ticket. [12:55] I smell a business opportunity [12:55] LykeX: There's an easy alternative for an all-natural high: fall in love! <3 [12:55] Yeah, but the come-down's a bitch [12:55] True, LykeX. True. [12:56] * zeroday munches more chocolate [12:56] :D [12:56] 2 minutes to go [12:57] The tension. THE TENSION! [12:57] * KenHam has joined #nonprophets [12:57] r u sure? is it not 62 mins? [12:57] Say it ain't so! [12:57] * LykeX doesn't fin [12:58] * LykeX doesn't find that funny [12:58] http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/timer.pl [12:58] Look at central time. [12:58] * LykeX also presses enter to quickly [12:58] That's a handy page, mond. Much better than whattimeisit and dateandtime! Thanks! [12:59] I have it bookmarked [12:59] Me too. [12:59] 2, 1, zero! [13:00] -1, -2 [13:00] ... [13:01] Time is like, sooo relative, dude. :-/ [13:01] :) [13:01] * Roland has joined #nonprophets [13:01] And the good Sir Roland joins us [13:01] Our party is now at full strength [13:02] is the gorgon redy to slay?? [13:02] Yes, and when we return with its tongue, the fair maidens of the village will wish to thank us [13:03] as long as the ale is plentiful [13:03] WoW parlance? [13:03] generic adventure talk [13:03] naw... i just went with it [13:03] it's the universal language [13:03] OIC :-) [13:03] Geek speak [13:04] geek not l33t :) [13:04] :) [13:04] roland was one fo the kinights of the round table [13:04] Just quoted Penny from http://youtube.com/watch?v=CLe7X5FTccc [13:04] or no he wasnt i lie!! [13:05] he was charlegane (sp???) he was a real cursader [13:06] Here in Bavaria, the name »Roland« is still quite commen. [13:06] *common [13:06] A-HA! zeroday, YOU are the martian! [13:06] soo where's the show? :D [13:06] I win [13:06] Barely 20 people. [13:06] I would expect 300 [13:07] its m middle name... im not trying to make a point with it :) [13:07] 20-50 is about what the show gets [13:07] I say nothing without my lawyer from Phobos, LykeX. [13:07] The 101th amendment. Dammit! [13:08] Apropos show: I'm hearing silence, guys. [13:08] * Bidinger has joined #nonprophets [13:08] the 101 amendemnt..."dont be a jeck, its xmas" [13:08] I'm not, there's a slight humming [13:08] jerk... even [13:09] doesnt it start at 130 central? [13:10] That would have been half an hour ago, when they tested the audio with the xmas song [13:10] it starts in an hour [13:10] 2pm central [13:11] But, but ... I just have chocolate for 15 more minutes. Whatever am I gonna doo?! [13:11] i have extra vodka?? [13:11] It's a plan. Peppermint schnapps here. [13:12] I go for wine myself. Quite a diversity of tastes [13:12] It's cool as long as nobody drinks everything simultaneously. [13:12] its as if were not all in line with god..... [13:12] Ewww [13:13] hey now... i might like a wine chaser with a beer back [13:13] * zeroday rofls [13:13] I repeat, Ewww [13:13] hey i hear dead air! :) [13:14] or like a fan or something [13:14] The passive-aggressive-meter just broke ;) [13:14] You're right, Roland. Sounds digital. [13:14] no im really hearing sound and i think thats good [13:15] You can hear again? It's a miracle! [13:15] It's a bit like the Message from »Contact«... [13:15] Alas, no prime numbers [13:15] i started the chat before i started the audio... [13:16] you have to listen for them!! 3 [13:16] 5 [13:16] 7 [13:16] 9 [13:16] wait not 9 [13:16] 11 [13:16] Ha! [13:16] :D [13:16] * LykeX Literally LOL'ed [13:17] 357.686.312.646.216.567.629.137 [13:17] < note [13:18] hi!!! [13:18] Yes! \o/ [13:18] eek, im scared [13:18] Good to hear you again, Matt! [13:18] Hallelujah! [13:18] Long time no hear. [13:18] yup [13:18] yup [13:18] yes [13:19] 4 good [13:19] cause your an ass! [13:19] (BTW: 357 686 312 646 216 567 629 137 stays being a prime number when you keep eliminating digits from the left; geek off) [13:20] no.. i cant here 3... [13:20] * tj has joined #nonprophets [13:20] Yes, it is [13:20] Reminds me of Sarah Silverman: "Jesus is magic!" [13:20] < darn you all and your honesty! [13:20] so what will todays show be like? [13:21] any guests? overtime? [13:21] Matt: I watched »Deliver us from Evil« -- it's a tough documentary to watch. [13:21] Yes, dammit, Rmember, all atheists are immoral liars [13:21] Start acting like it [13:21] child porn and rape fantisy? [13:22] *Roland: It's been done. We need to come up with something new [13:22] < Roland: catholic clerics and child abuse [13:23] I just realized that i don't suck at online gaming at all. Its god that hates me with a passion. Makes me feel better about my apparently non excisting skills. [13:23] *tj: that's the spirit [13:23] which game? [13:23] Ok, mics are set up...music is queued...I need to run to the store to get some drinks for everyone. Back in a bit [13:23] Now if you send a check for $200 dollars, that can all change [13:23] I prefer to watch others playing the games and enjoy the graphics. [13:23] Playing Uncharted 2 multiplayer. [13:23] god hates all gamer... makes us remember every time we lose and forget the wins [13:24] Anyone using VLC player? Mine has a little santa hat on. Spooky how it knows the time of year. [13:24] Shouldn't that read "BRB", Non-Prophets? [13:24] Yes, but Roland, every time you win its god way of saying i forgive you... [13:25] they why does he fuck with me on the next hand!! [13:25] mond: Do you use VLC with a special skin? [13:25] 'Cause he can, bitch [13:25] I think that's an easter-egg. [13:25] god is a duche [13:25] Nope. [13:25] I vividly recommend the icon changing. [13:25] Roland: Thats the whole point. Noone understands god, you just have to fear for all of your natural life, then you will be rewarded later. Perhaps. [13:25] Anyone with Linux/*BSD running xsnow? That's how it is like here. [13:25] (Not using it now though) [13:26] (sans Santa) [13:26] zeroday: Hehe oldschool. Alright I'll join in on that. [13:26] Unless god decides not to [13:26] but is i worship satan i can get a new chair for xmas?? [13:26] Let's face it, if he decides to change the rules at the last minute, what could we do about it? [13:26] or is that santa... [13:26] * Hokasha has joined #nonprophets [13:26] well, mayby Satan will give you when in turn for your soul [13:26] either way... god aint ponying up my chair!! [13:26] What if he retroactively edits the ten commandments [13:26] when=one [13:27] Yeah, gammy. xsnow and co preceed the Web. We had it in our university. Good times. [13:27] @gammy. an easter egg at christmas. thats fucked up. [13:27] @mond: actually, it's a profound statement about birth and death [13:27] mond: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg_%28media%29 [13:27] halleluja Lykex [13:27] Oh wait was that removed? [13:28] D: [13:28] mare eggs born when theyre lyed or when they hatch? [13:28] are [13:28] I can see the link. [13:28] Nothing's so meaningless that a bit of interpretation can't make it profound [13:28] Did someone else hear an echo when they tested the mic's before? [13:28] id vote for when theyre layed [13:28] Cool, I am aware of easter eggs. Was just an attempt at humour. [13:29] Apropos theology, LykeX: "If a thing is not worth doing, it is not worth doing well." (Hitchens?) [13:29] i was hinting t an abortion debate... but easter is fun too :) [13:29] and jt i here eco and static [13:29] ok [13:29] i think they have gain up a little high on thier end [13:30] but to loud is better then not loud enough :) [13:30] * Steve has joined #nonprophets [13:30] Just a few hours ago, I smashed three potential chicken embryos in a pan with roasted onions (and fava beans, and a nice chianti, fsfsfsfs...) [13:31] Lo Steve. [13:31] most eggs arent fertile anyway... as a veggiterian i suport your actions :) [13:31] so you are saying eegs cant breed? what proof do you have of that? [13:31] Wait what? [13:31] Hey [13:31] have you ever seen not happening? [13:32] Are we seriously discussing this? :P [13:32] I appreciate it, Roland. What's your stance on sushi? [13:32] no :) [13:32] Also, the egg came first. [13:32] yes it did :) [13:32] the egg came in dead last. [13:32] even came efter the turtle [13:32] preemptive "Happy Christma-Hanu-Rama-Ka-Dona-Kwanzaa" to everyone [13:32] It didn't move at all *b-dum- tshh* [13:32] zero i eat what i catch... but im too lazy to catch much [13:32] I agree, debdrup. Eggs came 750 million years ago, the chicken only 50 million years. [13:33] Lets hope the show starts soon [13:33] thats a long time for an eeg to use on hatching [13:33] (It's a misnomer to say that it's unknown whether the egg or the chicken came first", as any mutation happening from generation to generation would result in what we currently regard as a chicken-egg hatching into a chicken. [13:33] Thus, the egg came first. [13:34] the naming of "chicken" is an arbitartary rule [13:34] Now that's flawless logic, debdrup. No smiley. [13:34] But going back the evolutionary line, at what point does non-chicken turn into chicken? [13:34] neatly derived [13:34] debbrup: where you there.. Were is the proof man. where is the proof.. Its people like you that depends on sience that is ruining god [13:34] tj: what? [13:34] I usually use the explanation: "Oh the egg came first, it just wasn't laid by a chicken..." [13:34] Science makes baby jesus cry. [13:34] tj: what what? [13:34] tj: what what what? [13:34] Good question, LykeX. But I'm sure the pre-chicken tasted like chicken. [13:34] Isn't the real answer obvious....god created them both at the same time. [13:35] Not a real answer though. [13:35] debdrup: ahh i can see my bad english and poor attempt at sarcasme dosent work in this chatroom. I do appologize [13:35] god is making me pee ... asshole [13:35] No, I created them 92 minutes ago. I did. Trust me, guys. [13:35] And since everything tastes like chicken, you can't infer from chicken-taste to actual chicken. [13:35] thank god for creating the roasted chicken wing..... [13:35] tj: ah. I thought it was something like that, but I'm sure there's some christian out there who would make that exact argument without realizing the futility of it. [13:35] Amen, Hokasha [13:36] Mmmm. Chicken. (_8(|) [13:36] debdrup: I will attempt to sound even more stupid next time :) [13:36] tj: don't, you might sprain something. [13:36] Mmmmm, little baby puppies [13:36] Umm, never mind [13:36] :) [13:37] I wonder.. [13:37] you wonder how i will wonder why [13:37] Chicken is easier to come by than baby puppies. [13:37] I see the phrase 'You, sir, are an idiot" used - and i -THINK- I may have started that meme. [13:37] yesterday you told me bout the blue blue sky..... [13:37] Don't get much meat off a puppy either. [13:38] You'd need a big breed [13:38] Yeah, the lady at the counter always looks at me funny [13:38] The "sir" is very classy, debdrup. [13:38] "You, sir, are and idiot" [13:38] zeroday: yeah, I know - I do wonder if it was truly me that started it though. [13:38] I can't be sure since I posted it on 4chan, but I may be patient zero. [13:39] Can you call dibs retroactively? [13:39] It was adopted by spam, but it's possible :) [13:39] zeroday: no, since I'm not a tripfag and I did't take a screenshot with timestamps. [13:39] I am all hungry for chicken now. The question is now: Hot wings or barbecue chicken.. [13:40] How do you keep an idiot in suspense.....I will let you later. [13:40] QQ [13:40] I see what you did there. [13:40] That's a nice piece of business, man. [13:40] < That's cruel, mond. Tell me! Oh, wait... [13:41] lol [13:41] opt for the barbecue chicken.... wings have a big flaw.... they are gone too soon [13:41] is it a number?? is it 7?? i like 7 a lot [13:41] * eimerian has joined #nonprophets [13:42] TBBT, season 1: "»What« said the homo habilis discovering his opposable thumbs..." [13:42] I wonder how much time is actually spent on memes all in all. [13:42] Hoksaha: You are right. bbq chicken it is. Using logic gave us the answer without praying [13:42] ohh wait.. Did you pray? [13:42] I mean seriously, it's a huge time-waster. [13:42] or have a salad because you wouldnt murder a live chicken yourself, why let someone else? [13:42] * Steve sets mode: +o debdrup [13:43] There you go, debdrup. Now you can register the channel under your nick. [13:43] I only eat chickens that died a natural death. Since the majority chickens are killed by human, i would consider that the norm. [13:43] i would murder a chicken myself and i have done so.... may i skip salad ;) [13:43] Good point, Roland. If I had to slaughter my food myself, I'd be pretty much vegetarian. [13:43] * ChanServ sets mode: +r [13:43] * ChanServ sets mode: +q debdrup [13:43] I'd suggest setting Non-Prophets as the Founder so if your nick expires the channel will fall to him [13:43] * ChanServ sets mode: +q debdrup [13:43] * Jonas has joined #nonprophets [13:43] then why arent you zero? [13:43] * ChanServ sets mode: +q debdrup [13:43] Yup. [13:43] I'll leave you to it since you obviously know what you're doing, if you need a hand at all just give us a shout in #help. [13:44] Laters :) [13:44] * TJ_Dane has joined #nonprophets [13:44] * Steve has left #nonprophets [13:44] is there reason for making new rooms? [13:44] Because it tastes so good and my parents made me eat meat and I'm a terrible person, Roland! [13:44] * zeroday weeps in the corner [13:45] were all sinners!!! [13:45] the existensilist in my love the easy of biblical language :) [13:46] you ate from the holy protein.... repent!!! [13:46] To be honest: I eat vegetarian at home, but I don't protest whenever my auntie invites me to a meaty heaven of sunday dinner. [13:46] Non-Prophets: can you just rejoin? I need to check if you get autoopped. [13:46] i ate turkey for 3 days... but thankisgiving doesnt count!! [13:46] Wait, I buy eggs from time to time. Damn. [13:46] * Christian has joined #nonprophets [13:47] * DaneFWT has joined #nonprophets [13:47] * Europe has joined #nonprophets [13:47] Vegitarianism has never appealed to me. [13:47] Brian Dunning from "Skeptoid" had an interesting point about the energy density of meat. So did Greg Laden. Evasions? [13:47] Hm, Shilling doesn't have his nick registered.. (or it dropped) [13:48] plus ive never been hutting but i used to shoot bows a lot and id go if i didnt live in a swamp [13:48] * debdrup sets mode: +o Non-Prophets [13:48] What about consecrated wavers? They're practically meat. [13:48] I likes what I likes. [13:48] in college i couldnt afford meat... so i earned [13:49] * TJ_confused has joined #nonprophets [13:49] Yeah, meat used to be luxury. [13:49] theyre worse then triscits! [13:49] * Pombolo has joined #nonprophets [13:49] maybe with cheese [13:49] Anyone here using windows 7? [13:49] Yup [13:49] * Tscott has joined #nonprophets [13:49] 7 is a nice number. OS X 10.4.11 here. [13:50] Mint 8 [13:50] Also xp on other machines [13:50] Linux, Pombolo? Sweet! [13:50] Can you explain to my why that mirc closes when clicking on it in the task-bar? [13:50] ;) [13:50] my=me [13:50] i used to use redhat but im way to lazy not [13:50] Nope. Don't use mirc. [13:50] now [13:50] memo to self: dont click on mirc. [13:51] I'm planning to install Karmic Koala on my 8 years old iBook. [13:51] TJ: any mouse-klick macros that could do this? [13:51] i just look at porn..... [13:51] Yes, there's so many linux flavours for older hardware - spoiled for choice really [13:51] * helo_darqness has joined #nonprophets [13:51] start in 9 minutes? [13:52] is there reaaly a show today??? [13:52] Roland, sing with me: The internet is for porn, for porn... [13:52] zeroday: no, not at all. Brand new pc, got it last week. Almost a virgin pc :) [13:52] to what tune?? [13:52] Break the hymen, TJ. Might work then. [13:52] Zeroday: true dat [13:52] * zeroday searching youtube for porn song [13:53] be gentle to him tj [13:53] ive had the spongebob xmas song in my head for days [13:53] So how is Win7, I've never used it. [13:53] Its actually really nice. so far :) [13:54] Its what vista SHOULD have been. [13:54] mond: agreed [13:54] do you use photoshop with it? [13:54] Vista = Windows 7 beta [13:54] roland: No [13:54] my moms looking for a new books... shes a designer [13:54] is the sound recorder still lacking all the features in win7 [13:55] box...? [13:55] vista takes all the effects away [13:55] how is box book......... [13:55] like backwards play and echo [13:55] Ok...close to starting [13:55] Chicken status update: I orderd both bbq and chicken wings. So i might die from a heartattack during the show. Pretty exciting [13:55] Cool-tastic [13:55] < Yay [13:56] Point it away from us Roland! Away from us! [13:56] * zeroday can't find porn song [13:56] oh come on [13:56] * dkbuck has joined #nonprophets [13:56] * heba has joined #nonprophets [13:56] listen the spongebob song! [13:56] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-TA57L0kuc [13:57] "dont be a jerk.. its chrismas!" [13:57] < But I want to be a jerk. :( [13:57] * omini has joined #nonprophets [13:57] Being a jerk is fun. [13:57] dont be a jerk to other jerks ? [13:57] That's the most fun. [13:58] dont commit jerkacide [13:58] it is isnt it [13:58] Yes, Hokasha! That's it! But I watched a version with Will Ferrell. [13:59] there is a version with will ferrell? please find that for me. :) [13:59] You guys getting anything yet? [13:59] * Christopher has joined #nonprophets [13:59] buzzing [13:59] yes, feedback [13:59] Nothing yet [13:59] good good [13:59] so its on [13:59] I'm not getting anything [13:59] :D [13:59] There's feedback according to my spectrograph. [13:59] I refuse to believe this is the non-prophets anyway. There are way too many gaps. [14:00] so bryan steeksma has a YT vid where he debunks a whole bunch of crap [14:00] BUT ive sorta departed YT for a while [14:00] it got boring [14:00] They have to make sure the channel is clear of thetans [14:00] is anyone here a physicist? [14:00] my first live showing :D [14:00] is the stream working for anyone else? [14:00] and now that i look at it NOW its even more so [14:00] the debates and debunkings led to nowhere [14:00] Christopher, have you been through the archived shows? [14:01] dont hear anything [14:01] it was just us talking to ourselves [14:01] yeah [14:01] Oh, I probably mixed up th porn song with Will Ferrell in http://youtube.com/watch?v=2ariXkEKuBU [14:01] TJ its buzzing [14:01] *the [14:01] I've been trying to do this for months.... nearly a year [14:01] how can you read the spectal lines of stars if theyre black bodys? [14:01] feedback keeps spiking a bit [14:01] Pombolo: that's normal. [14:01] i dont hear anything [14:01] Oh, I now [14:01] Where in the world are you, Christopher? [14:01] turn it up [14:01] *know [14:01] Welcome aboard then, Christopher. :) [14:01] its very faint [14:01] I use to use my neighbor internet and everyday I remembered to do this, my wifi went out :/ Since then I moved and I have a super slow DSL [14:02] buts its good enough to hear NPR [14:02] Thanks :D [14:02] I'm only here today because I was accidently up at 7:00am [14:02] I normally miss it :( [14:03] * eyrie has joined #nonprophets [14:03] * SideW has joined #nonprophets [14:03] you cant miss the end of the year blow out!@ [14:03] can I change my name now or do I need to reconnect [14:03] Its my first time listening to live to. the experience is kind of non-volume-ish so far :) [14:03] this show better be 10 hours long to make up for the 2 month break [14:03] yeah [14:03] try /nick [14:03] has the show started? [14:03] Will Jeff be on today? He's been on the last two end-of-year shows, IIRC. [14:03] I better get my fill of End-of-Year 'Asshat', that's all I'm sayin'. :) [14:03] matt should do 24 hour marathon [14:03] Damn right thermo [14:03] SubTachyon: somehow I doubt that'll happen. [14:03] * Aletheia has joined #nonprophets [14:03] Jeff said no because there were already so many people coming. [14:03] can i drink for"asshat" in quotes? [14:03] but... but... [14:03] :( [14:04] beer is ready.. [14:04] i think i can.. and will [14:04] Yes you can, asshat. :) [14:04] I'll reconnect [14:04] Oh, and also. [14:04] Seconded, SubTachyon, about the 24-hour marathon. [14:04] * Christopher has quit IRC (Broken pipe) [14:04] am i the only one not hearing the stream? [14:04] * ChristopherBorra has joined #nonprophets [14:04] There we go :D [14:04] I suggest a drinking game: Everytime something stupid by a christian is mentioned, we drink. [14:04] omini: Cant here it either [14:04] Omini - there's only buzzing at the moment [14:04] I'm hust hearing a whirrrrrrrr... [14:04] winamp is "playing" the stream but i cant hear anything [14:04] ok [14:04] thats all you get for xmass... wwwwwrrrrrrrrrr [14:04] Maybe Matt forgot how to connect the stream? [14:04] same with my VLC [14:04] Good that's what I hear, too, Zeroday [14:05] It's NPR - since when do they start on time..? :P [14:05] Same here. [14:05] Ok... [14:05] Christian: Still, there was some audio of matt earlier. [14:05] Denis is almost finished and we're ready to start [14:05] True, its not like the non prophets is one of those silly shows that start *on time* [14:05] c'mon guys. we've waited 2 months, dont make us wait another 10 minutes! [14:05] This is why we shuld all be christians. The church is allways on time :) [14:05] Excellent [14:05] I didn't want to, we had a technical problem. [14:05] It's a well known fact that the guys won't start the show until they see us use an arbitrarily chosen keyword in this chat room [14:06] Gammy: Either before I got here or the stream isn't working on my end. :( [14:06] platypus [14:06] * TJ_confused cheering for @Non-Prophets [14:06] lolpope [14:06] deliberation [14:06] Did you get the gremlins out? [14:06] Gobbledegook [14:06] shamwow [14:06] i expext a long dennis into... its the best part of the show some times :) [14:06] Snuffleupagus [14:06] Remember Matt/NPR Don't feed tem past midnight and get water on them! [14:06] I know: Bob [14:06] them* [14:06] Dennis' intros are great [14:07] Pombolo: his name is Denis. :p [14:07] I think gremlins taste like chicken. [14:07] My fave intro was the one made up of bits of PZ Myers hate-mail during crackergate. [14:07] zeroday: but do they come from eggs? [14:07] i like him so much he gets two n's!! [14:07] Christian: it was quite some time ago. No worries. [14:07] Oops, so it is. [14:08] yay! [14:08] weeeeh [14:08] Woohoo! [14:08] sound! [14:08] There it is. :) [14:08] here we go [14:08] Hallelujah!! [14:08] Boyaa! [14:08] You mic is checked [14:08] Mic check one indeed. [14:08] audio here. [14:08] good [14:08] Ther yas are! [14:08] your* [14:08] It's on! [14:08] Shilling! [14:08] oh no [14:08] Good question, debdrup. Nothing in the lifecycle of gremlins point to evidence in favor of eggs, judging from the movies. [14:08] Point away, Roland! [14:08] Imposter! [14:08] :) [14:08] SAY ASS HAT!!!! [14:08] ehm, what [14:08] Uggg, I swear I'm hitting these letters [14:08] lol [14:08] ASSHAT! [14:08] Eep [14:08] zeroday: true. [14:08] Thank the GODS for Shilling! [14:08] Wrong channel [14:08] echo FTW [14:08] Thou shalt say asshat [14:08] Chryler-King is born? [14:08] I've missed shilling [14:08] that was shilling!!! [14:08] Chicken has arrived. wuhuu [14:09] :) [14:09] AAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!! [14:09] \o/ [14:09] horrible horrible music [14:09] anyone got echo besides me? [14:09] \m/ [14:09] nope [14:09] \o/ [14:09] no [14:09] Nope [14:09] No echo here [14:09] no echo here [14:09] nope [14:09] no [14:09] good comm [14:10] ahhh apprently having 2 winamp sessions with the same channel going does that. Lesson learned [14:10] w 0 0 t ! [14:10] ugh, the audio quality is horrible [14:10] Sounds great here. [14:10] Whoooo!! [14:10] Probably not going to be able to see chat today (like that's a surprise). If there's an emergency, someone with my number can txt me ;) [14:10] lol TJ [14:10] < oh no! [14:10] So, the audio quality is great for some and crap for others? [14:10] A Dawkins-Xmas-ACA conspiracy? Noooo... [14:10] apparantly [14:10] its good for all [14:10] Ha. [14:10] Audio is fine for me [14:10] fine here [14:10] count one for great [14:10] Nice intro :D [14:10] quality ok here [14:10] fine [14:10] he was messup up himself [14:11] Good naudio for me [14:11] I think TJ fixed his problem [14:11] Sounds like the problem isn't on my end :) [14:11] * CoreyMicCham has joined #nonprophets [14:11] I ran into another 911 "truther" last night :( [14:11] Heh [14:11] Seemingly serious. [14:11] speakers+open mic = echo [14:11] my echo issue was caused by a ID10T error [14:11] well, it's not 44,1 kHz sampling rate. more like 11. [14:11] TJ_confused: ha :) [14:11] Christopher: and he didn't "open your mind"? [14:11] haha [14:11] zeroday: 22050Hz, actually. [14:11] is this the glen beck into?? [14:11] Lies all lies! [14:11] Awesome. [14:12] lol [14:12] lul [14:12] bimonthly [14:12] I for one welcome our new overlords. [14:12] Oh. My iTunes doesn't say, debdrup. One reason more to use something other. [14:12] bi-quarterly [14:12] zeroday: foobar2000. [14:12] haha 2 weeks yeah ;) [14:12] * omnikinesis has joined #nonprophets [14:12] * zeroday googling for foobar2000 [14:13] Oh, know! The people who run the show have a life and jobs. [14:13] The new mics sound great, Matt. [14:13] bastids [14:13] * Blahface has joined #nonprophets [14:13] That would be much appreciated, Matt [14:13] but that is a good idea make a short clip and let people know your not making a show for a while. [14:13] Doesn't have to be long, just so we know [14:13] foobar2000 is Windows-only, debdrup. :-( Thanks anyway. [14:13] audio is great matt [14:13] zeroday: ah, you're on mac. Ho-hum, then iTunes is your best player. [14:14] Damn it, I wish I was in Austin [14:14] new bile audio? [14:14] Do I get a green card for the ACA gig, Matt? [14:14] im not so nublie... [14:14] * Blahface has quit IRC (Blahface) [14:14] debdrup: I use MPlayer mostly, also VLC if MPlayer doesn't cut it. [14:14] zeroday: mplayer is sexy though. [14:14] WE LOVE YOU SHILLING [14:15] i mostly use winamp [14:15] VLC sounds alright, no echo. [14:15] Good to se shilling got out of jail for the show ;) [14:15] xD [14:15] I know, debdrup: I love the use of mere cursor keys to cue. [14:15] No Dawkinks as a guest? [14:15] nice [14:15] Aren't you Jewish?! [14:16] bride to be? [14:16] Christian: he's a jew by tradition, I think. [14:16] Same with Jon Stewart. [14:16] hes got a whole new family now [14:16] A cultural jew, so to speak. [14:17] That's what it's called. [14:17] I was just messing around :/ [14:17] >.< [14:17] * Hokasha_ has joined #nonprophets [14:17] lol [14:17] woot me!!!!! [14:17] Shilling we miss u [14:17] nice [14:17] so all caps messages get read on the show? [14:17] You brought up a point, ChristopherBorra: Most of us are "cultural christians", I guess. [14:17] riiiiiight?! [14:18] thermosecular: no, they get you kicked by a spiky boot. [14:18] that wu\WTF?!?! [14:18] :( [14:18] * debdrup wields his spiky boot [14:18] i thought making my shilling love caps was OK :) [14:18] Guess whos sewing that atheist... if you saw Bullshit! you might guess it. [14:18] I hope this case becomes a precedent case. [14:19] russell- 14th amendment is incorporation, federal law applies to the states [14:19] * dkbuck has quit IRC (dkbuck) [14:19] 9th amendment [14:19] * Hokasha has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [14:20] yeah i win!!! [14:20] * Hokasha_ is now known as Hokasha [14:20] * dkbuck has joined #nonprophets [14:20] < thank you! [14:20] err [14:20] * Europe has quit IRC (Goodbye) [14:20] BBQ chicken level completed [14:20] * Europe has joined #nonprophets [14:20] * debdrup hands omnikinesis [14:20] * zeroday eats his cookie himself [14:20] wow... looks o cookies [14:20] ..a cookie [14:20] Fuck, I suck. [14:20] woot! [14:20] Screw it, cookies for all. [14:20] * debdrup hands out cookies for everyone [14:21] yay [14:21] Om nom nom nom... [14:21] I have faith in the cookie [14:21] LOL [14:21] But: doubt the cake. [14:21] I am cookie intolerant..Fuck you cookie. [14:21] let us form the church of the non prophetic cookie [14:21] Only if god was cherry pie [14:21] and the cookie was jesus? [14:22] then it would be something I can see taste and touch [14:22] Is there a non-religious test to become president of the ACA? [14:22] ...probably hear it too [14:22] and the holy spirit would be whipped cream [14:22] watch out, cookies can lead to mental problems: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YKVMoTz5hA [14:22] but..but..the cake is a lie [14:23] I'm not going to youtube... my conenction is super slow and I don't want NPR to skip [14:23] * Bidinger has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201220228]) [14:23] Not if you hack the "Portal" game, omnikinesis. [14:23] i sort of want to murder a few surpre court judges.... [14:23] but i thought cake would be provided at the conclusion of the testing experience... [14:23] lifetime apoints leave only one was to veto [14:24] * DyslexicDog has joined #nonprophets [14:24] * dkbuck has quit IRC (dkbuck) [14:24] The cake is like the -Maru test that Kirk cheated into working for him. [14:25] Kobayashi [14:25] That's it, Christian! Thanks! [14:25] you have hot dogs?? [14:25] look at us still talking when there's science to do.. [14:25] * DorisES has joined #nonprophets [14:26] im a philosfer now... i just have to say why youre doing it wrong [14:26] True, omini. [14:26] the flying spagheti monster? [14:26] and thanks zeroday [14:26] This comes down to belief in belief. There was Anglican bishop who said although the taliban do terrible things you still have to admire their committment to their beliefs. [14:26] all heil gewishrbllblab [14:26] Its like I'm living in the twilight zone at times [14:27] :/ [14:27] hes just going to work in the senate [14:27] Cecil should found the Church of Gewishrbllblab! [14:27] oh the sweet nectar of irony [14:27] he is right.. he is not leagally aloud to serve [14:28] Its good that this happened, it shows the bigotry that is still out there [14:28] Do we drink when shilling says "cunt"? [14:28] is cunt as good as asshat? [14:28] Exactly, ChristopherBorra! [14:28] bigotry will always be out there, unfortunately [14:28] yes we do!!! [14:28] we do now anyway [14:28] awesome :) [14:28] I think I'm a caveman that fell and hit his head and this is all a dream before I finally die, cause there is no way this could be 2009/2010 [14:29] Yeah, I remember the BS "Reparations" episode [14:29] i do too [14:30] I do as well, but I wish they would be like southpark and make a little more shows, and release half of them in summer and the other halk in winter [14:30] WE LOVE SHILLING BECAUSE OF CONFEDERATE COS-PLAY! [14:30] Matt said he believes in Gewishrbllblab..... so i will too [14:30] half* Derrrrrrrrrr [14:31] Gewishrbllblab demands daily koitus. She's a demanding deity! ;-) [14:32] I have a religious test! For all those theists... they should have a bolder hanging over their head with some rope. [14:32] we all must obey! [14:32] have someone cut it, and pray it won't fall on you. [14:32] nice [14:32] if you're faithful, it won't touch ya. :D [14:32] i agree [14:32] pergery is the best cast for the "the ten comandents are the basis of law" arguement [14:32] Wait, would that be the rock that god couldn't lift? ;-) [14:32] lol [14:33] if youre faithful it wont hurt you because youre a bonehead [14:33] no, becuase god can't make a rock that he cant lift [14:33] If an atheist got elected president, would that state just not recognize them as president? [14:33] god is such a wuss [14:33] hm... [14:33] the magic of slippery slope [14:33] marrying a dog! thats absurd...cats on the other hand.... [14:33] Oh, I can see fox news going off on an atheist president [14:33] * Nacho has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201220228]) [14:33] lol [14:34] post-theist [14:34] lol x 2 [14:34] Chicken dinner destroyed. The wrath of god (because of the chicken killing and glutony) is presenting it self as a tiny stomakeache [14:34] I can't believe what people say about atheists [14:34] First a black president, then a female, THEN an atheist. Baby steps. [14:34] but they go off on anyone who isn't white [14:34] ooooh [14:34] conservatie... republican [14:34] deist [14:34] oh yeah, christian too [14:35] you forgot hetero [14:35] nd filth rich [14:35] X_x A point made but Coctipus on youtube [14:35] There probably already has been an atheist president. If you want the office then you would just play-along-a-christian. [14:35] rich is better the xtain... romney is a mornom [14:35] I'm 38 and still in puberty. *crosses fingers* [14:36] oct 14? really? [14:36] I'm going to lay down in bed and listen. [14:36] quick break out the time machine! [14:36] alright guys get in our timemachines [14:36] .... and touch myself. [14:36] get to da choppers! [14:36] quickly robin! to the bat-time-machine!!! [14:36] Kinky, ChristopherBorra. [14:36] I have to listen via headphones, my house is currently full of theists [14:36] ive run the i touch myself joke into the ground [14:37] So, CB, what are you wearing? [14:37] Dan Barker had a quite good talk at Skepticon II [14:37] Correy: Do you think that if the theist hear nonprophets i will hurt their ears? [14:37] haha [14:37] TAG [14:38] james randi talk to my class in like 7th grade [14:38] No, I think they'll walk in and start trying to argue with me, and then I wouldn't be able to hear the show. [14:38] no but he might have to endure some extra jesus talk [14:38] I can't lay down :( my damn cat is taking up the bed [14:38] no, the theist's heads will asplode [14:38] i disagree with matt on tag!!! [14:38] Which Matt, Roland? [14:38] our matt [14:38] roland what are you talking about matt won epically [14:39] yes but i dont agre witht he aristolian philosophy [14:39] Hehe, it all depends on what you want me to wear. [14:39] Correy: that would indeed be sad. [14:39] NICE!!! [14:39] nice [14:39] lol [14:39] best. headline. ever. [14:40] Ted Haggard is completely heterosexual. o.O Where did that come from? [14:40] a song [14:40] roy zimmermann [14:40] Jeans and a T-shirt isn't that sexy. But I use to be a handy man... :/ [14:40] best song ever [14:40] youtube it [14:40] < hey!! asshat!! [14:40] larry craig is comletely heterosexual... [14:40] <<< but I rarely drink [14:40] I know: "Oral", fellatio etc. [14:40] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZmHC75FDqQ [14:41] * stimpson65 has joined #nonprophets [14:41] * my_dick_is_in_ray_comforts_ass has joined #nonprophets [14:41] That's the one, TJ. [14:41] i like roy. Especially his irish beatles medley.. [14:41] the Bloom County comic had great fun with Oral Roberts [14:41] I can't get over it. Oral? [14:41] Seriously? [14:42] PZ Myers blogs about most of Roy [14:42] 's song [14:42] on Pharyngula [14:42] LOL! [14:42] I bet he got a lot of crap in school for his name being oral [14:42] yeah [14:43] Oral: Get the money, or I send my people. You know Loki? [14:43] No, anyone who made fun of him was obviously immediately smote by god. [14:43] i like odd names... [14:43] my best friend was named sunbow [14:43] I think I'll name my kid, handjob [14:43] or anal [14:43] he took my parents for a couple grand. That's my inheritance! [14:43] i met a salesman named "natural" [14:43] Cumfart is a nice name. [14:43] it sucks at 8.. at 18 its a conversation starter [14:44] Parents can be so cruel [14:44] lol, nice zero [14:44] "Sometimes death isent a sad thing" [14:44] the sumfart is already namd.. its the rick santoumen [14:44] santurum? (sp please??) [14:45] I'll only name my kid like that if I knew they were going to grow up to be a douche like oral roberts [14:45] Shilling! GREAT POINT! [14:45] santorum [14:45] Santorum? Isn't that the mixture of bodily fluids on your penis after anal intercourse? [14:45] Yep [14:45] yes it is [14:45] mmh no god gave a day more to live.... god never said how long he gets for the 8 mill [14:45] Ironic, isn't it [14:45] Hehe, "after". I kill myself xD [14:45] but why.. why would you have a name for that? [14:45] Good stuff guys! [14:45] love hank's ass reference [14:46] Ahhhhhhh people that think like me :D [14:46] It must have something to do with the sexual fixation of the religious community [14:47] good point russle [14:47] LykeX: Know the Fry quote from the Intelligence Squared debate? [14:47] lol russle [14:47] ohhhh, that is Russle [14:47] russells been reding a lot of analogies recently [14:47] no, do tell [14:47] CRAP my bad! [14:47] I confuzzeled the names [14:47] He wins Samoa. [14:47] * eimerian_ has joined #nonprophets [14:47] The catholic church being obsessed with sex like a bulemic (?) is with food, LykeX? [14:48] no asuie accent???? [14:48] hahaha, this letter rocks [14:49] im so ashamed [14:49] Might be a point to that [14:49] "spending time" [14:49] lol [14:49] called it [14:49] lol [14:49] lol [14:49] NICE [14:49] lol [14:49] called it [14:49] nice [14:49] YES!!! this is so funny [14:49] lol "thick and fast" [14:49] you get hella cookies [14:50] LOL funny story [14:50] that letter writer just won the show [14:50] * eimerian has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [14:50] * eimerian_ is now known as eimerian [14:51] is shilling thinkng about writing a book? [14:51] Jim wouldn't lie, now wouldn't he? [14:51] thats why you have to side hug your christian friends [14:51] I've done something like this as well. [14:51] Jim = God = dosen't lie [14:51] It's HI-LARIOUS [14:51] Its a funny story. [14:51] * my_dick_is_in_ray_comforts_ass has quit IRC (my_dick_is_in_ray_comforts_ass) [14:51] aww he quit rays ***? [14:52] getting a personal respone to a spam-email is a bit fishy tho [14:52] This letter = bible for really apologetic apologists? [14:52] ray was just getting into it [14:52] or onto it [14:52] did anyone of us think that story was real? [14:52] i do [14:52] LykeX: the Stephen Fry quote is somewhere in here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NL5WVecNdhk [14:52] Does it reallu matter. [14:52] in total, all of it? [14:52] i do [14:52] sounds like something i would do if i wasent so christlike [14:52] there's probably some exaggeration [14:53] Fact is stranger than fiction but people still make shit up. [14:53] Well, my pussy is off the bed now :D Time to lay down, I'm on facebook people using the same name but with a space in-between. [14:53] I don't want jesus freaks [14:54] Add me if you dare [14:54] Prostitution is the oldest profession in the world. [14:54] I might get timed out here, so I'll say good bye [14:54] no.. fuck off [14:54] I might be back before the show is over [14:54] they arent prostitutes, they're "used vagina saleswomen" [14:54] i think gatherer is older [14:55] No, "used vagina renters" [14:55] also.. hoe isnt a profession.. its a job [14:55] Nice euphemism, omini. [14:55] oh, thats right [14:55] Wives are used agina saleswomen [14:55] thank you, zeroday [14:55] *vagine [14:55] *vagina [14:55] gently used pussy [14:55] Vajayjay? [14:55] barring virgins, of course [14:55] lol [14:55] ok, im laying down. I'm running on 3 hours of sleep [14:56] Sweet dreams, ChristopherBorra! [14:56] you someone said vagina... so I had to comment [14:56] i wonder if anyone on the set is paying attention to this discussion [14:56] laying in the biblical sense? [14:56] errrr but someone said*.... [14:56] If you have to 'bar' a virgin, to get her to comply, you are doing something wrong. [14:56] :D [14:56] yeah, I'm tired.... be back later maybe, if not peace out now..... later [14:57] I've been a virgin until 8 years ago. Being a virgin is not too bad. But now it's better, hindsight and all. [14:57] Here's some more prison stats for Russel and Schilling http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm [14:57] better? [14:58] Wow, I disappear for a bit and come back to "Used vagina renters"?? WTF?! lol... [14:58] its better not to be? [14:58] http://www.adherents.com/misc/adh_prison.html [14:58] i dont' see this 1925 study [14:58] Yup. It's the more experienced state of existence. Better in my case, Roland. [14:59] Tomorrow's headline: "Atheists Encourage teens to prostitute themselves" [14:59] O-oh, LykeX. [14:59] You know it'll happen [14:59] what??!? [14:59] i wnt clear on the use of "it's" [14:59] Juked: From Gullah juke, joog (?wicked, disorderly?) Not that anyone cares. :) [15:00] reference ambiguity is the tool of satra [15:00] Atheist? Rationalist? Bright? Naturalist? [15:00] pearlist? [15:00] Whoops - wrong etymology, it's: From Middle English jowken (?bend?). [15:00] Gotohellist? [15:00] nice [15:01] I'm hardly rational. Maybe when coding programs. [15:01] hussy is drived from house wife.. his wif [15:02] did he just say ashat? [15:02] no [15:02] the one reason im not happy with the atheist label is that its a negative. its like lumping together people who dont accept astrology [15:03] Got the Fry quote about Catholics and bulimics: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NL5WVecNdhk (timecode: 5:53) [15:03] The problem is advancing a group of reasoning individuals without alienating people from it. [15:03] eimerian: I'm quite partial to naturalist myself. [15:03] If you are not happy with the A label then don't use it. [15:04] Thanks, zeroday [15:04] I embrace the negative around 'Atheist' - it gives me a good reason to challenge misconceptions with people constantly. [15:04] If PEARList became popular, it would simply inherit the negative connotations of athiest. So why not just stick with ahteist? [15:04] *atheist [15:05] I'm going with ahteist now, I like that, Pombolo. :) [15:05] Secular humanist doesn't exactly cut it, I take it? [15:05] i use veggitarinsim to challege xtains gods a lot [15:05] i'm a pythonist! fsck perl! [15:05] zeroday: whats wrong with naturalist? [15:05] I keep meaning to learn Python... never do though [15:06] WHAT? [15:06] So, should we just call ourselves the mentally healthy? [15:06] Nothing, as far as I can tell, eimerian. "To be partial to" means "to like", no? [15:06] So is 'unemployed' [15:06] Pombolo: Dropped Python myself while learning Ruby. [15:08] benovolent? [15:08] I must remember to pay attention to this chatroom, I forget that I have it up! [15:08] I hear 'Alexander the Great' all the time and it's bullshit. [15:08] the "writer" is lying and setting up a strawman [15:09] matt is wasting his breath (and puter keys) [15:10] Someone be ready with an oxygen mask for Matt in a second!!!! [15:10] Bible<---man made. [15:10] Breath damn it.. Breath... [15:10] :) [15:10] Gotta listen to this again after the show. [15:10] HE is trying to out-do Aaron Ra [15:11] Aliens in "The Life of Brian". 'Nuff said. [15:11] Maybe someone could werite all of this in (with references) at IraonChariots [15:11] Matt is a Vampire. Vampires dont need air. [15:11] Pombolo: I'm thankful about the pause button whenever I watch an AronRa video. :D [15:11] yup [15:11] PLEASE STOP READIND [15:13] Rabbi Yeshua. [15:13] Nope [15:14] theyre defending people from the "misquotig Jesus" and the rest [15:14] * Lazarov has joined #nonprophets [15:14] hey everyone [15:14] hi [15:14] Norm! [15:14] Hi [15:15] you have to kill scolaorship before you can claim your own [15:15] The risen one! [15:15] < ... or "Lie". The 4th "L". [15:15] Oh, wait, that's LazaRUS [15:15] nope [15:15] * Russell_Glasser has joined #nonprophets [15:15] its lazarov lol [15:16] crap, would have been good timing, though [15:16] "Hate your parents. Hate your siblings..." [15:16] legend [15:16] Say, "hate your parents" "Respect your mother and father" [15:16] Contradiction much [15:16] there isnt much of Jesus fromthe synoptic gossples i dont like? [15:16] Lazarus was a guy in the new testament [15:16] right [15:17] Gospel of John [15:17] or w/e [15:17] my last name is lazarov [15:17] :-P [15:17] * Russell_Glasser is now known as Kazim [15:17] i have bad luck with names, my first name is Kristian [15:17] lol [15:17] :) [15:17] at least its not with Ch [15:17] what percentage of the population in the early 1800's was what we would call racist? 80%? 90%?? [15:18] and then my last name is close to a name in the bible :-P [15:18] 90% prolly [15:18] accepted as a nprm [15:18] i think 100 precet of us are racist [15:18] norm* [15:18] just like Christianity is today [15:18] lol [15:19] i try not to be.. but on some level i am [15:19] depends on how you define "racist". [15:19] Well, if u stand by and let people of your race act disgracefully, then it's as much your fault, and then you can't get mad when people make generalizations about your race [15:19] My maths teacher once swore: therefore 2+2 no longer =4 [15:20] lol [15:20] nice [15:20] Only a half-step? [15:20] there is on old physics joke [15:20] I think we took a few more than that. [15:20] 2+2=5 for larger values of 2 [15:20] Lazarov, mine is with 'CH' I'm taking it back. [15:20] Ha! [15:21] LOL! "Larger values of 2". Luv it! [15:21] How fast do you think the percentage of theists will fall yearly? [15:21] in the US [15:21] its only funny when you spend a lot of time doing math with boudrys [15:21] fairy rings overnight -> mycelial growth [15:22] Great webcomic here: http://www.khaoskomix.com/ [15:22] Completely unrelated, but whatever [15:22] lol can someone answer? How fast will the percent of theists fall yearly u guys think? [15:22] KenHam: I've seen that in a Genie Scott talk, too. Good example, fairy rings. [15:22] well, in chemisty, 5x5=20. go figure (or signifigant figure) [15:23] zeroday: I've used it as an example in arguments before; it hasn't worked as well as I hoped :| [15:23] chemists are morons? [15:23] ?? [15:23] By definition, once something "supernatural" manifests, it is natural. [15:24] Not if your opponent wants to belive in fairies, KenHam. [15:25] well, if you think about it, nothing is "unnatural" [15:25] very true lol [15:25] heh, we need to replicate those results on Oral Roberts several times to make sure it's really true :) [15:25] but it depends on what sense of natural you're talking about [15:25] So, if he comes back to life, we should kill him to see if he resurrects again? [15:25] zeroday: yeah, but this was my response to some argument from ignorance of his, and he was a YEC [15:26] he was particularly dumb, though. it might work better with others [15:26] I hope so, KenHam. [15:26] Even a couple of witnesses wont be enough to prove to the outside world, but maybe you, so you know your not having a delusion [15:26] but ya thats what u said anyways [15:27] It's a solipsistic position, Matt. [15:28] but they are!!! [15:28] The best kind, actually. [15:28] if it is "without fail" poor... then its not accetable [15:28] Matt, imagine you called into a show like the Atheist Experience, but when you were religious yourself, would you be as hard headed and unwilling to accept the proof as the theists which call the show and talk to you? [15:29] you realizes his in the mibble of a radiio show right [15:29] lol yes [15:29] I don't know that it's always 'hard headed' but frequently they are unprepared for the conversation because they haven't thought about the issues that AE brings up. [15:29] Isn't it generally accepted (by the Christians) that Matt never really was a true believer since he flipped? [15:29] middle..mibble... all the same [15:29] but hey someone might ask him later after reading my question :-P [15:29] < well [15:30] i think that it's possible some people are born with an ability to be rational [15:30] i dont know [15:30] some arent? [15:30] I guess? [15:30] i dissagre with that [15:31] I think he was always rational and logical, but he just wasn't presented the information in time [15:31] you know? [15:31] but he was truly a christian [15:31] insane can still be national [15:31] lol yes they can be national [15:31] Schilling shaves his pubes with Occam's razor. :-D [15:31] im kidding, i dont think the insane can be rational [15:32] i use a sive 2 clipper\ [15:32] why not? [15:32] haha awesome [15:32] Maybe so maybe not, Lazarov, but I would also say that someone who has been indoctrinated into a belief system might not just say "Oh, ok, you're right, bye..." when confronted by new evidence, they might need to process it... and frequently they will just ignore it and not process it. It's not irrational, it's maybe laziness or fear that prevents them from truly looking at the evidence. [15:32] you win [15:32] lol [15:32] bastid [15:33] So it takes a while.... [15:34] Dillahunty: full disclosure! [15:34] i wonder how long the delay is from when they say something to when we hear it. [15:35] ya i dono [15:35] can't be more than a few seconds [15:35] i think its probably instantaneous [15:35] I wonder what part of the brain that instant analysis and visceral thinking takes place in, as opposed to more reasoned analysis [15:35] almost [15:35] what???? no! [15:35] It takes place inside the ass, actually, and you have to pull it out. [15:36] within 3 lighteyars god willing [15:36] Christian++ # wins [15:36] NEOPLATONISM IS SP EASY TO IGNOR [15:36] i dont agree with it at all [15:37] but to say that a neiove beilefe in religion is the only form of idealism is wrong [15:37] nice [15:37] kool-aid without nikes is no kool-aid at all [15:38] Theists say they would rape and kill people if they didn't believe in god correct? So why isn't everybody on this radio station currently out there killing and raping people? [15:38] no they dont [15:38] * Kohuke has joined #nonprophets [15:38] I wonder what theists would respond [15:38] dont set up straw men [15:38] The delay varies...for some it's about 10 seconds or so...for others it's nearly a minute [15:38] So...listen up, we're going to test it (again) [15:39] SAY INDEED! [15:39] Lazarov, because god has instilled morality in you even if you deny him. <-- theist response [15:39] I'm going to say "This is a test of the live podcast delay" and start the clock. Chime in when you hear it [15:39] Look at the birds and the trees! [15:39] roger, will do [15:39] haha nice Christian nice [15:39] thats true [15:39] heard [15:40] on this repeater: http://66.228.123.40:8000/ [15:40] I heard it! [15:40] Hello from Estonia =D [15:40] Wewt. [15:40] I just heard it now. [15:40] heard it [15:40] got the delay signal [15:40] Heard it just now @ http://66.228.123.40:8000/listen.pls [15:40] Delay? [15:40] Heard it, on the main channel [15:40] 1 [15:40] 2 [15:40] 3 [15:41] 6 sec? [15:41] sooner? [15:41] Yep. [15:41] It's shoutcast. [15:41] nice delay [15:41] 20 seconeds? [15:41] im in europe and it took 3 sec [15:41] mom was a converted jew [15:41] Since everyone seems to have different morals, and morals come from god, does god have MPD? [15:41] Christian, so if god has instilled morality in me even if I don't believe in him, then it isn't necessary to believe in god to be moral, which would be a reply to the theists argument [15:41] UK here, Zen. [15:41] im in europe too [15:41] DK here [15:41] BG [15:41] I'm in Europe as well, and have like less than a second of delay. [15:42] Germany here. [15:42] I am danish godless sap [15:42] lol [15:42] delay between when matt said hi... and what? [15:42] I have a rather large audio buffer to cope with dodgy networking too. [15:42] TJ_confused: likewise. [15:42] Hvad fanden, der er sgu en til [15:42] yeah shilling [15:42] Lazstov: Is BG Belgium? [15:42] fuck him [15:42] danskere overalt :) [15:42] ouch in the ear [15:42] Lazarov: Is BG Belgium? [15:42] DK represent! [15:42] LykeX: yes, there are quite a few Danes in here. Keep it English, please. [15:42] Sorry about the danish :) [15:43] Will do [15:43] But a part of your nature is to adhere to God's natural laws. When you kill someone or steal something you feel badly because your soul recognizes that it is not right with god. So although you don't believe in him you are still subject to his laws. But your argument also does not explain why there are christian and atheist criminals: free will means you can rebel from his laws if you believe OR if you don't. [15:43] zeroday: .bg tld is bulgaria [15:43] (Again, playing Christian Advocate) [15:43] how long ago did the show start? [15:43] i love to talk about ethics after the show :) [15:43] Thanks, gammy. You live, you learn. [15:43] 1:35..? [15:44] A little after 2pm CST in the US. [15:44] sorry, didnt see the question [15:44] yes its Bulgaria [15:44] and im american btw [15:44] halleluja [15:44] Reminds me of TBBT: If Wolowitz would be a Futurama robot, he would have to power-off on sabbaths. :-) [15:44] I'm from .SE but have been here in the UK for three months. [15:45] We just started a skeptics group on Nov 20. 18 people so far :) [15:45] thats funny [15:45] I watched that BS show, too. I'm way too entrenched in U.S. media. :-/ [15:45] Umm I see a great difference between Orthodox Christianity and the main American Christianity's like Baptist and Protestant, and what not. Orthodox just seems not to try to shove the religion down everyone's throat. It's like, believe it if you wish, if you don't, whatever, they won't argue or anything [15:45] Yup saw that. Ugly hack :> [15:46] So did Shilling like it? [15:46] Gammy, what's SE? [15:46] fuck shilling... hes an asshat!! [15:46] woohoo, congrats Russell! [15:46] Congrats Russell! [15:46] < that was a good poem [15:46] I hated it. :) [15:47] Lazarov: Sweden [15:47] Congratulations, Mr Glasser! [15:47] congrats [15:47] go russel! [15:47] There's video of the proposal on Russell's Facebook page. [15:47] CONGADULATIONS [15:47] right right [15:47] i knew that lol [15:47] GZ =D [15:47] woot. [15:47] Dr. Horrible [15:48] Thats messed up... [15:48] what? [15:48] Thats like hitler type of sh** [15:48] "Engage!" (Picard) [15:48] Hitler* [15:48] What's Russell's facebook? [15:48] www.facebook.com [15:48] lol [15:48] ..... [15:48] THATS F-ED UP!!!! [15:49] http://www.facebook.com/russell.glasser [15:49] oes. Stream died. [15:49] noes even. [15:49] oh jeez, not the family again [15:49] La familia. Cosa nostra de niro coppola! [15:49] ah back. [15:49] No, civilians i think [15:49] in the ear? [15:50] I can't believe the family still exists after they've been exposed... but we're still listening to birther and truther shit. THAT crap will never die but ACTUAL fucked up shit will never get heard... blah [15:50] Maybe the civilians have to report it [15:50] only [15:50] fuck obama for not doing his job too though [15:50] What job..? [15:50] leader [15:50] Being Jesus [15:50] being gay a capital offense!?!? [15:50] think you could do better Roland? [15:50] im offended [15:51] I don't think you can claim he isn't doing it... you can argue that he's not doing it WELL... [15:51] haha whats matts facebook? :-P [15:51] no.. im an asshat [15:51] Obama is pretty good with the science stuff, but Iraq? Man... [15:51] facebook.com [15:51] i thought he could thought [15:51] though [15:51] http://www.facebook.com/matt.dillahunty [15:51] gracias [15:51] Postmodernist warning! [15:51] jesus i need to get a facebook [15:51] we're all post oderenist [15:52] Twitter and facebook denier here. [15:52] Wait. [15:52] twilight hater here [15:52] denighing postmoderenism is post modernist [15:52] wow, a gay snitch law [15:52] Fuck you, my entire family was killed on Twitter. [15:52] So if you've got AIDS you can get executed by the government. [15:52] What the hell. [15:52] That's hilarious, Roland! [15:52] WHAT?!?! [15:53] "who are HIV-positive". [15:53] I'm just saying I have very personal evidence that Twitter in fact happened and I'm tired of people like Zeroday denying my pain. [15:53] Yeah, PZ blogged about it. It's horrible. Rachel Meadows interviewed the quack that can "cure" homosexuals about it. [15:53] So if you get HIV through heterosexual sex, you're screwed. [15:53] *maddow [15:53] i dont give a funk aout your pain either [15:53] Loved Rachel's interview, though: I'm reading from your book, dude! [15:53] Maybe it happened to you, Christian, not to me. Neener neener! :-P [15:54] in the US you cant give blood if yo've ever had gay sex, even if you dont have AIDS [15:54] *you've [15:54] Goddamn deniers [15:54] really? [15:54] really [15:54] i miss rachel on the radio [15:54] Same in Denmark. Also, if you'e ever used cocaine [15:54] Yup. [15:54] ...which is why I don't donate. [15:54] even if you had gay sex before AIDS even existed [15:54] EVER [15:55] I live in the middle of shit-kicking Texas so I don't get that kind of radio - or even television at the moment. [15:55] also if you have had tatoo within 3 years [15:55] or if you're a woman who's had sex with a guy who's had sex with another guy [15:55] I love these email readings [15:55] Really lets you doubt the "200" at the left side of "2009", [15:55] he also spent 1/3 of the notpology preaching and hawking his book [15:55] point. [15:56] gods word? lol [15:56] ASSHAT! :) [15:56] AAAASSSSSSSSHHHHHAAAATTTTTTTTT [15:56] What if you're a woman who had sex with a man, who had sex with a woman, who had sex with a man, who had sex with a man [15:56] i have tons of gay friends [15:56] Asshat FTW [15:56] I'm pissed about this episode - I'm totally sober almost 2 hours in, dammit. [15:56] Then I'm a lucky woman, LykeX. [15:56] nice [15:57] I was talking to someone before who talked about how he thought all gay people should be killed because "they have a disease", and thought it was okay because he "had gay friends" [15:57] Who's mumbling in the background? [15:57] *mumble mumble mumble* [15:57] The Atheist Experience pretty much changed my mind about gays [15:57] Some mormons even have black friends. Hypocritical nonetheless. [15:57] and some logical statements by either hitchens or dawkins, not sure [15:58] what was your oppinion before, lazarov? [15:58] whats there to change? [15:58] Ummm, that they wern't equal to straight basically [15:58] if it doesnt interfere with your life wheres the harm [15:58] straights* [15:58] ah, i see [15:58] they arent... theyre better [15:58] more chicks for you [15:58] lol [15:58] He agrees with you omini, that bit is past tense. [15:58] i kno [15:59] *know [15:59] Just checkin' [15:59] k [15:59] Carry on. [15:59] :) [15:59] more like AE simply motivated you to reevaluate your views lazarov [15:59] Nature is full of gay sex. Most species do it. That was my knowledge since I was 11. [15:59] Well ya stimpson [15:59] so, wanna ass-fuck? [15:59] look up bonobo monkeys [15:59] LOL! [15:59] My bedroom is ful of... never mind [16:00] I mean, just by watching video's on youtube, I turned strongly Atheist [16:00] Reminds me of the Samwell video on youtube. LOL! [16:00] gay sex? [16:00] dawkins hitchens and AE [16:00] mostly [16:00] No, I want answers! [16:00] id like to talk to you about that after the show also [16:00] Well, in the oldfashioned sense, sex should always be "gay". :-) [16:00] true [16:00] i was always an athiest [16:00] me too [16:01] I was an atheist when I found out about religion. [16:01] I think, me too. [16:01] I wasn't an atheist child. [16:01] 'phew back. Lost the internet connection - held on to the audio stream on my iphone via 3G though. [16:01] what debdrup said [16:01] There's no such thing, as a child can't form such opinions. [16:01] I was reading a VERY old biography of Stonewall Jackson that had a line saying " was so gay that Jackson could hardly keep his eyes off of him". :) [16:01] But just like Matt needed time to change his views on religion, I can relate with my views on homosexuality [16:02] debdrup: lack of a belief in deities is not an opinion. [16:02] well, atheism is not an opinion [16:02] deb i got out of boyscouts at 6 because i hates the god parts [16:02] Bye Russell! [16:02] who said it was an opinion? [16:02] take care [16:02] zeroday: no, but a child can't take a stand on what he/she believes. [16:02] lol [16:02] Roland: that's because they're lame. That doesn't make you an atheist child. [16:02] Atheism, like gayness, is nothing more than a basic mutation of the bird flue. Vacination can fix it. See you local doctor [16:02] but a child can lack a belief in a deity [16:02] so imimmoral now?! [16:02] True for the most part, debdrup. [16:02] which is all it takes to be an atheist [16:03] I thought this show was supposed to be extra long to make up for lack of previous shows [16:03] ya!? [16:03] VACCINATIONS DON'T WORK!! They'll KILL you!! [16:03] Roland: we had secular boyscouts in Denmark when I was young. It was awesome. [16:03] RUSSEL WILL MISS THE REMAINING 3 HOURS OF THE SHOW RIGHT? [16:03] We'll miss him - at least Shilling is staying. :) [16:03] in american boy scouts are very xtain [16:03] Everyone who's ever been vaccinated has died. Unless they asked god for protection [16:04] Great point, Lykex. [16:04] But god hates condoms. [16:04] but really i just didnt want to pick up trash [16:04] Christian: then i am a miracle. I survived my 2 vacination this year [16:04] No to say mormon, Roland. [16:04] thermosecular: no, a child doesn't have a position on theism. [16:04] 'I know, very convincing right [16:04] Speaking of homeopathy(also see http://1024.org.uk) I found this in boots, http://pulia.nu/100APPLE/img/146_IMG_0191.JPG (picture of homeopathic "remedy") [16:04] TJ_confused: give it time, you're going to die. [16:04] correct, its lacks the belief [16:04] monmor? [16:04] erm * http://1024.org.uk [16:04] dogs are atheists too, they lack the belief [16:04] nooooooo 1023! haha [16:04] wow im likw 2 minuites slow [16:04] :> [16:04] thermosecular: you're missing the point. It's been covered in AE before. [16:05] France with the headscarfs [16:05] i just here the russell leaving [16:05] Don't ban minarets, limit their height... to like 12 feet. [16:05] My ex-girlfriend became religious, and the Christian God specifically, when I asked her why, she said because her child didn't die during her birth, she had to have a C-Section [16:05] I hope the first A.I. will remain atheist, not like the Cylons in BSG. [16:05] I remember how an American boyscouts group discussed how diverse they were when it comes to religion. [16:05] Christian: So you are saying that the vacine will kill me within the next 50-60 years? [16:05] They went around the group, and everyone had a different Christian denomination [16:05] That was their idea of religious diversity [16:05] and that showed that there's a god.... [16:05] TJ_confused: Well, by that time it could be 100-120 years depending on how old you are. But yes, you're going to die eventually and I blame your vaccinations. [16:06] instead of simply realizing that doctors are professionals and they're good at saving babies, like dawkins said "the human mind is extremely susceptable to delusion" [16:06] I've gotten vaccinated several times in my life, and nothing happened to me. Lame! :D [16:06] Chrsistian: You have convinced me. [16:06] well. this chat room exists, ergo everyone will die at somepoint [16:06] YET. Nothing has happened to you YET. Give it a few decades. [16:06] yes [16:06] @zeroday: You're just in denial. Really, you're already dying [16:06] Yes, and I also blame the chatroom. [16:06] i dont think its a religious thing, more like an architectural thing [16:07] death is a disease that afflicts everyone on the planet, and there is no cure [16:07] it just doesnt fit into their cities [16:07] LykeX: "I'm not dead. I'd like to go for a walk now!" [16:07] so what im hearing about minurteets is old [16:07] :D [16:07] I feel happy! [16:08] Is Dennis currently drowning? [16:08] ? [16:08] He sounded underwatery [16:08] he was talking away from the mic [16:08] There are four (4) minarets in Switcherland, aren't there? [16:08] yep [16:08] i havent heard it yet [16:08] I don't see the problem, sorry. [16:08] Toblerone is triangular, not minarett-shaped. :o) [16:08] I think billboards are cool architecture. why are they limited by law? :-$ [16:09] It's not architecture, it's salesmanship [16:09] Listening to the way that the closeted Swiss cloak their bigotry is always amusing [16:09] cut down the crosses too and we will taslk [16:10] Minarets do not inherently promote islam. A sign saying "buy this" does inherently say "buy this" [16:10] its not even connected to islam [16:10] Yes they do. I don't think it matters, but I think they do. It's definitely branding. [16:10] but is you target the minure\t and not the cross itsw biased [16:11] its just a piece of middle eastern architecture [16:11] I'm not defending making them against the law, I'm just saying that I don't see how you can say that a recognizable symbol isn't promotion. That's basic marketing right there. [16:11] I WAS TO LIVE IN A TOWER!!! [16:11] If a person is unaware of islam they wouldn't become aware of it by seeing a minaret. If a person is unaware of product X, they WILL become aware of it by seeing the billboard [16:11] i dont need a holw castle... just a tower? [16:12] some look upon minarets as symbols of religious oppression. [16:12] Marching orders! We need our War Against Christmas marching orders! [16:12] i dont think a fanaical muslim will lose their faith becuase they dont have their architechture [16:12] * CoreyMicCham has quit IRC (CoreyMicCham) [16:12] If Swiss bureocracy is anything like German bureocracy, minaret architects will have a hell of a time "integrating" them in the "Stadtbild". [16:12] LykeX: Yes, but the minaret makes you say "What is that? [16:12] *"city image" [16:12] its not islam [16:12] Take care everyone! [16:12] Anything makes you say "what is that" if you're curious [16:12] its middle eastern architecture [16:13] If I see the Nike Swoosh and I don't know what it is I don't suddenly know, but I DO find out by living in my society and it DOES reinforce their message. [16:13] i hate that modern german is so poisions by the nazi rule [16:13] Christian: "It's a place for Moohammad". [16:13] damn! what happened to the "extra long" show? [16:13] happy christma-hanu-rama-ka-dona-kwanzaa, everyone [16:13] good show guys, thanks as always and have a MERRY CHRISTMAS [16:13] and Hannukah for Russell ;) [16:13] lol [16:13] January 16th? Too long! :( [16:13] "Cabal" is a wonderful word [16:13] It was over 2 hours - you need to define 'extra' before hand. :) [16:13] bye :P [16:13] page says 9th! [16:13] thas what she said [16:13] laters [16:13] Almost a whole month! [16:14] false advertising! [16:14] ill sue [16:14] * stimpson65 has left #nonprophets [16:14] Tanks guys [16:14] IS THE SPONE BENT??? [16:14] Enjoyed it [16:14] * Aletheia has quit IRC (Leaving) [16:14] that was a good whow [16:14] * Kohuke has quit IRC (Kohuke) [16:14] The spone turned into a fark [16:14] Great show! Glad the NPs are back! [16:14] Non-Prophets: thanks for that guys :) [16:14] Good episode, shame that Matt couldn't get to Christmas and potentially the war on christmas. [16:14] * heba has quit IRC (heba) [16:14] Looking forward to tomorrows show guys, see you then! [16:14] * Europe has quit IRC (Europe) [16:15] see all yall in the chat room during AE tomorow [16:15] Yeah, good show, though the chat was quite distracting. In a good way. Makes me re-listen to the archived show sometime. [16:15] Yup [16:15] Is there an exit stratergy for the war on christmas? [16:15] < ok omini [16:15] * Pombolo has quit IRC (Leaving) [16:15] here's my facebook [16:15] ahteists [16:15] :-P [16:15] I always re-listen for exactly that reason, Zeroday [16:15] http://www.facebook.com/kristian.lazarov [16:15] There's an exit strategy for the Christians in the war - DEATH! :) [16:15] if anyone wants to chat about theism [16:16] and atheism [16:16] One point: Is it "AE" or "TAE"? ("BBT" or "TBBT"?) [16:16] im willing [16:16] and everything in betwen [16:16] who's the honny? [16:16] i need to get a facebook [16:16] * eyrie has quit IRC (eyrie) [16:16] I wish there was a decent chatroom for atheist bible study. it's boring drudging along by oneself. [16:16] ya [16:16] ive looked [16:16] * DorisES has quit IRC (DorisES) [16:16] there isnt [16:16] wht are you reading? [16:17] on Job right now, heading straight through [16:17] Qur'an study would be interesting from time to time. [16:17] spoiler: jesus dies [16:17] Let's make one - I'm planning on re-reading the thing again. I haven't read it since becoming an atheist [16:17] @KenHam: How about integrating it into the IronChariots Wki [16:17] thermosecular FUCK MAN [16:17] DAMMIT, Thermosecular! [16:17] now I quit [16:17] with comments on specific chapters [16:17] Good stuff thanks guys [16:17] have you read the guy that wrote misquoting jeses 'sbit on job? [16:17] I'm like 5,000 pages from the end, motherfucker.. lol [16:17] DANG IT THERMOSECULAR [16:17] * Jonas has quit IRC [16:17] Divine insanity: god killed himself on the cross to save his own creation from his own wrath. [16:17] LykeX: hmm. I had an account on the forums there for a bit, but I haven't checked in a while. maybe that's a good place [16:18] Roland - what guy? [16:18] Not a chatroom aqs such, but still [16:18] google misquoting jesus for me :) [16:18] * Hokasha has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.16/2009120208]) [16:18] It would allow the idea to be available to everyone [16:18] * Kazim has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [16:18] yeah, but that might work better, as the conversation is preserved, and like snoring my way through 1 and 2 Chronicles, it took me a while to get through the boring parts. [16:18] Ah so, not 'misquoting jeses 'sbit on job'? lol [16:19] well, there is the "skeptics annotated bible" [16:19] you have a lot of half drunk physics philospohers wondering around?? [16:19] alright take care everyone [16:20] http://www.facebook.com/kristian.lazarov [16:20] * Lazarov has quit IRC (Lazarov) [16:20] * thermosecular has quit IRC [16:20] have a happy christma-hanu-rama-ka-dona-kwanzaa!!! [16:20] you too [16:20] http://lmgtfy.com/?q=misquoting+jesus [16:20] cheers all [16:20] * omini has left #nonprophets [16:20] * eimerian has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.6/20091201220228]) [16:21] misquoting jesus is next up, but I'm waiting until I get through the real thing the first time :) [16:21] anyway, bye [16:21] * KenHam has quit IRC (EPIC5-0.9.1[1578] - amnesiac : look at the lost souls, they seem so black.) [16:21] Ok folks...our apologies for being gone so long. We should be back to normal on Jan 16th...and I expect Kathleen to be back [16:21] * zeroday <3 "Let Me Google That For You" (http://lmgtfy.com/) [16:21] Word. Good show - glad you're back! [16:21] I'm going to go get the show uploaded and finish my other chores for the day [16:21] Thanks for the questions and participation! See you in 3 weeks [16:21] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat Dec 19 16:21:57 2009