Session Start: Sat Aug 22 13:11:23 2009 Session Ident: #nonprophets [13:11] * Now talking in #nonprophets [13:11] * Topic is 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information!' [13:11] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Aug 01 14:27:55 [13:11] * ChanServ sets mode: +qo Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [13:12] matt? is this show going to be the epic return of jeff dee? [13:13] No...why would you think that? [13:14] ..it hhas to happen one of these days [13:14] Every show is to be the epic return of jeff dee only for it not to be. [13:15] he said he was only leaving for a year. It has been 2 :( [13:15] You must have missed a show [13:15] He came back on...explained that his 1 year job turned into a permanent job. He wouldn't have time for NP, but did come back to the TV show as a co-host. [13:16] the tv show has gotten to wide of an audiance and is less cool as npr [13:16] grammer fail there. [13:17] So, what you're saying is that the show that Jeff appears on is less cool. I'll let him know. :) [13:17] yup! [13:19] Non-Prophets: are any of the streams up yet? [13:19] I'm getting 'Service Unavailable' on both of them and want to know if it's my setup that's broken or just that you aren't running the shoutcast server yet. [13:20] Is there gonna be a 4 hour show today to make up the recent infreqency? [13:20] * ville has joined #nonprophets [13:20] Don't want much, do you. =) [13:20] 4 hour!? Could they even survive that without falling asleep or running out of topics? [13:21] There won't be a 4 hour show. [13:21] Well at least you know the crew is loved, huh? =) [13:21] Could try going over free will again. That would be l..o...n..g.. He He. [13:21] I'm working this weekend...like last weekend and about 8 of the last 14 [13:22] This is like a long lunch break for me [13:22] The economy is going down the toilet and you are busier than ever. You got a pact with satan or something? [13:23] No, that would mean he has a job in which he has unlimited free time. [13:24] People get laid off...that means more work for those who still have a job [13:24] Of course I'm busier [13:24] Stream is up... [13:24] Makes sense. [13:25] * mathmexican has joined #nonprophets [13:25] Winston around? [13:28] Nope. Shall I look out for him though? [13:30] is it going to be music for 30 mins? [13:30] and who is winston? [13:31] Hm. Apparently I've been promoted to permanent op on a podcasters ustream page.. [13:31] * apparition has joined #nonprophets [13:31] So now I need to keep an eye out there, and there's a show going on here as well as there. [13:32] Congratulations? [13:32] Bother. [13:32] Not really. I'll have to be multitasking now. :P [13:32] That doesn't go in line with me being lazy. ;) [13:32] Ah. [13:32] Luckily my client can detach a window and I can run that on a seperate monitor. [13:33] Luckily indeed. Be a pain to have it all on one. [13:34] Oh yeah, especially since I'm on 35 channels on 11 networks.. [13:35] Wow. 0.o; [13:35] dam your one of those 13 year old girls in 1980 (on all the chat rooms they were) [13:37] 35 channels. [13:37] How does your brain not fracture into a million shards? [13:37] Becasue I've been on irc for 11 years and am used to multitasking if I have to. [13:37] * rudeboy has joined #nonprophets [13:37] oy. [13:37] oi [13:37] That too. [13:38] oi-l come to hate it [13:38] is the mucic cutting out for anyone else? [13:38] I want to buy the new Nissan Leaf [13:38] no [13:38] Happy: not for me. Try using Foobar2000 f you're on Windows. [13:39] ah, music is streaming from the NP's hi-def studios ... [13:39] I'm using itunes and it's fine for me. [13:39] * SpookyElectric has joined #nonprophets [13:39] you know if matt wanted to be super cool he could make a mobile studio like the ones we use @ rogers tv [13:39] rudeboy: as an audiophile, I can tell you that it's not HD.. :P [13:40] heh heh heh heh heh [13:40] I've filed a few audios meself .. [13:40] Non-prophets broadcasting from the back of a pirate van touring around Austin in the dead of night. [13:40] Sounds less comfy than a couch. [13:40] Austin is dead at night? huh. [13:40] * Devin has joined #nonprophets [13:41] I hear that Austin is the only place in Texas that rocks out at night [13:42] austin is the only place in texus i might want to visit [13:42] Any city that can claim someone like Molly Ivins ought to be worth a visit. [13:42] It was quite a nice city to visit. [13:43] ... was ..? [13:43] Okay, *is*. I was using past tense in terms of personal experience. [13:43] ah [13:43] So, I have a new pet. [13:44] is it a cat? [13:44] An alligator lizard has taken up residence in my garage. [13:44] Has it bitten you yet? [13:44] oh...a cat would ahve been so super cool [13:44] I love these guys cause they eat black widows [13:45] They do!? I need to find one so I can get rid of the one thats spawning in my backyard. [13:45] so I am trying to encourage his continued residence by leaving him alone as muchas one can [13:45] they do [13:45] Let me link a pic of him [13:45] http://snakemasterproductions.com/alligator_lizard81909.jpg [13:45] Brilliant choice of music on the stream. =) [13:46] He likes hiding under the rake right by the step down from the house [13:47] * Owner has joined #nonprophets [13:47] .... every sperm is sacred .... [13:47] therefore, should we worship used condoms? [13:47] everyone all together ,,, ew! [13:48] Thank poo I'm not a sperm then. [13:48] I don't even want to be sacred. [13:48] Wouldn't they be blasphemous? [13:48] do sperm posses original sin? [13:48] hey matt [13:48] * ntesla has joined #nonprophets [13:48] Sperm only has half the DNA for original sin. [13:48] * Owner is now known as Anima [13:48] can sin be divided? [13:49] So when sperm and egg combine it's like the wonder twins with sin? [13:49] johnny cash ... [13:49] did you know that because you dont have a degree in philosophy your not a true skeptic [13:49] Wonder sin power, activate? [13:49] eh? [13:49] thsi video explanses it all [13:49] oh brother ... [13:50] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2gqx7Ui72E&feature=channel_page [13:50] I'm skeptical. [13:50] Apparently you're not. [13:50] LIES! [13:50] skepticism requires a degree? says who (or whom)? [13:50] standinstann in his latest failure of a video [13:50] another propaganda load from the usual sources? [13:51] * Leafy has joined #nonprophets [13:51] Bjork! [13:51] I wonder if Matt will be in the chat today. [13:52] I wanted to talk to him about "logical absolutes" and TAG [13:52] * Pombolo has joined #nonprophets [13:52] fucking TAG [13:52] * sam has joined #nonprophets [13:52] lol [13:52] TAGs copulate? [13:52] huh ... [13:52] * ChristOnIce has joined #nonprophets [13:52] dude [13:52] * xghosthunter has joined #nonprophets [13:53] I was one of the few (?) that liked the TAG discussion, but... not again. [13:53] unfortunately I'm not going to defend TAG, because it's a terrible argument, and I'm an atheist. [13:53] but Matt D seems to have an antiquated view of logic [13:54] * Zetsu|MkII has joined #nonprophets [13:54] I like how Matt Slick beat his own argument by saying things are only physical or conseptual, hence trancendental gods dont exist [13:54] Slick is just a petulant child - that's why the argument stalled [13:54] lol [13:54] brb, switching clients [13:54] * Leafy has quit IRC (Leafy) [13:54] * leafy has joined #nonprophets [13:54] back [13:54] I do hope, though, that Matt will be in the chat room so I can talk to him :p [13:55] Leafy: Matt D (Dillahunty?) has an antiquated view of logic? Now THAT discussion I'd probably like to hear. [13:55] Doubtful. [13:55] okay [13:55] Matt has to be constructed form component parts minutes before the show starts [13:55] *from [13:55] lol [13:55] So he can't chat [13:55] * DrakeDarkHunter has joined #nonprophets [13:56] yay music [13:56] The bolts in his neck are then energised from the mains and he is ready to go. [13:56] Matt these guys are poking fun at you come on here and defend thyself. [13:56] * Micah has joined #nonprophets [13:56] talking in chat might be considered antiquated [13:56] Micah from Heroes has hacked in! [13:56] I'm busy setting up for a show. They can pick on my all they want. [13:57] missing a word [13:57] I'm not the Micah from heroes. :P [13:57] :p [13:57] * Pombolo picks and pokes [13:57] pick on my ... what ? [13:57] heh heh [13:57] Matt D: your view of logic is antiquated! [13:57] Micah, of COURSE you would say that [13:57] :p [13:57] Ok, e-mail me then...cause we're not doing that conversation here, especially when I've got show to do. [13:57] * notasheep has joined #nonprophets [13:57] * Micah rolls his eyes. [13:57] okay, but be sure to read it [13:57] I like discussions about logic, reason, the scientific method, fallacies, evidenciary standards... etc [13:58] * ihedenius has joined #nonprophets [13:58] * ShadowOfDoubt has joined #nonprophets [13:58] Yes, those discussions (logic et al) helped me leave behind notions of a soul / afterlife etc. [13:58] Because I like, learning more about those subjects. [13:58] chat is loading up nicely [13:58] sadly my discussion will only be about (a) logic, (b) classical logic, (c) recent developments in logic, and (d) philosophy of logic [13:58] * Thomas_Bolanos has joined #nonprophets [13:59] I.e. it'll be about logic. One of the subjects I like. [13:59] * Knasp has joined #nonprophets [13:59] and the logical "absolutes" - which really boil down to LNC [13:59] * MalReynolds has joined #nonprophets [13:59] What are 'recent developments in logic' anyway? As far as I know, modus ponens is just as valid now as it was a thousand years ago. [13:59] wow it's been awhile since I've heard the show live. [13:59] raa isn't valid in paraconsistent logics [13:59] neither is disjunctive syllogism [13:59] * IceGuest_7 has joined #nonprophets [13:59] p V q, -p, therefore q [14:00] "paraconsistent logics"? [14:00] paraconsistent logics are logics developed to deal with contradictions [14:00] * IceGuest_7 is now known as Moloch_Jr [14:00] *googles* [14:00] Now THIS is music! :D [14:00] google Graham Priest and "In Contradiction" [14:00] Seriously, I love this song. [14:00] ...why? [14:00] I don't know. :P [14:00] NOOO. [14:00] Oh, show starts later? Thought it was 2:30 [14:00] Supertramp is so passee :P [14:00] Whose music choice is this? [14:00] You killed it! [14:00] Hi guys! [14:01] Curse you, Matt! Curse you! *shake fist* [14:01] W00t shows startin [14:01] very sad face [14:01] About fucking time they had a show. [14:01] yeah [14:01] Wow, he was a bit hot. [14:01] I didn't kill it... giving leafy's comments, that's going to be the intro music [14:01] two minute warning [14:01] ==== [14:01] Woo. [14:01] *given [14:01] Yay leafy. [14:01] lol [14:01] Fantastic. [14:01] should I listen liev? [14:01] live? [14:02] and I hear nothing [14:02] usually I listen to the show after it's done [14:02] seriously though...e-mail me - cause I'm not doing this here. However, anyone who implies that logic is antiquated is a buffoon. [14:02] live works best [14:02] even though there is a 90 second delay [14:02] i'm not implying that logic is antiquated [14:02] heh heh [14:02] just that your view of the "logical absolutes" is [14:02] your a buffoon [14:02] lol [14:02] Then my view of it couldn't be. I win. [14:02] Now...on with the show [14:02] lol [14:02] That was quick [14:02] lol [14:02] Ha. [14:02] Do you guys hear anything? [14:02] damn, that samurai sword is sharp [14:03] Declaring that you win is a pretty good way of winning an argument.. [14:03] it's how matt slick rolls [14:03] * tristan has joined #nonprophets [14:03] Well, it worked. :) [14:03] works for most people I know [14:04] Am I the only one getting no sound? [14:04] any second now [14:04] No, I get nothing [14:04] Toko: nope [14:04] I got no sound [14:04] stream is still live [14:04] I like QED mf mostly to win :D [14:04] I got no sound but I"m connected, so I think things are good. [14:04] Yup, the stream is still live.. So yeah. [14:04] I'm not getting sound at the moment. Was getting some earlier. Probably something on their end [14:04] CodeWeaver: I'd guess the same. [14:04] just hang loose, they'll be up in a few seconds [14:04] ah [14:04] What the hell!? [14:04] 1I've got nothing either so it's universal [14:04] * Micah has quit IRC (Micah) [14:05] brb [14:05] * Tscott has joined #nonprophets [14:05] Any time now. [14:05] unless of course white noise counts as sound... then I am in a sense [14:05] * Blahface has joined #nonprophets [14:06] Hm. I'd get myself a beer but I have to go to work in two hours [14:06] * Nebleim has joined #nonprophets [14:06] damn the luck! [14:06] sound! [14:06] music! [14:06] There you go! [14:06] * tristan has quit IRC (tristan) [14:06] W00t [14:06] * micah has joined #nonprophets [14:06] Hoorah goddamn it!!! [14:06] my second live show starting now.. [14:06] My first [14:07] My third. [14:07] QUICK WE NEED A FOURTH! [14:07] lol [14:07] Course' I was forced to cut off the stream about 20 minutes in since someone else needed the computer [14:08] Police report intro? [14:08] I knew these guys would get arrested one day. [14:08] * thalamay has joined #nonprophets [14:08] Ben Stein reported them. [14:08] w00t i love the poliece [14:08] That's us! [14:08] We must start a bail bond for them. [14:08] YAY US! [14:09] I'll donate th first dollar and cent. [14:09] a woman :p [14:09] Our theocratic future? [14:09] They'll be taken to the brainwashing clinic, pity [14:09] I love the Shilling comment :) [14:09] More of an aspiration [14:09] * thalamay opens the door and steps inside [14:09] but dog and duck was way more baddass then the flying sauser [14:10] Shilling always seemed the most sinister of them all [14:10] * sam laughs out loud [14:10] He must be the mastermind [14:10] * sam has quit IRC (sam) [14:10] WOÓ! [14:10] * sam has joined #nonprophets [14:10] My....eardrums..... [14:10] Compressers rock! [14:10] I got lots of lag, but the stream goes forward. [14:10] Expensive [14:10] Matt: You should see Leo LaPorte's new setup. [14:10] All digital 12-channel mixer. [14:11] I have good connect. [14:11] * shamar has joined #nonprophets [14:11] * DrakeDarkHunter has quit IRC (DrakeDarkHunter) [14:11] * aodell has joined #nonprophets [14:11] he got a knew one when? [14:12] * DrakeDarkHunter has joined #nonprophets [14:12] i dont check into twit mutch more [14:12] He should charge them to use diliahunty international [14:13] * Thomas_Bolanos is now known as ThomasBolanos [14:14] * NeutronJack has joined #nonprophets [14:14] * ThomasBolanos is now known as Thomas_Bolanos [14:14] * Blahface has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.13/2009073022]) [14:15] Come around to what? MathSci? [14:15] * debdrup dances a bit [14:15] what was the question? [14:15] Yes, yes they are. [14:15] Yes [14:15] lol [14:15] End of discussion. [14:15] yes [14:15] Next topic [14:15] Indeed [14:15] joachim: Are religious people insane. [14:15] Yes. next question [14:15] Religion-The accepted insanity. [14:15] Mass Dilusion [14:16] I'm delusional in that I'm a solipsist. [14:16] I'm delusional in that I am not. [14:16] I like to think that I can persuade people using reason. Clearly, this is a delusion of mine. [14:17] I'm a pragmatic one, though. [14:17] poor denis [14:17] The DSM-IV definition of delusion specifically excludes religious beliefs. [14:17] At least Denis will always have the free will win. [14:17] I am napolean becuz......uh......... [14:17] The difference is how and why, you believe an insane belief. [14:18] I eat french toast! [14:18] FREAK! [14:18] No, I am french toast! [14:18] NJ! [14:18] didn't see you drop in [14:18] Are kids insane for believing in Santa Claus? [14:18] yes [14:18] please get on to the next topic... [14:18] You KNOW that Napoleon died... that's why it is more insane to believe in him [14:18] Insane does not equate criminally insane [14:19] People merely believe that God exists [14:19] it is how you act on it [14:19] * DrakeDarkHunter has quit IRC (DrakeDarkHunter) [14:19] Insanity, at least by connotation, would have more to do with errors in the process whereas religion tends to involve errors in the input [14:20] Oh, hey Shilling. [14:20] Are people insane for believing in aquatic apes [14:20] Delusion scale? [14:20] ChristOnIce: Exactly [14:20] its thad.. [14:20] Dooh. [14:20] * debdrup fails. :( [14:20] where is talking to invisible people on the delusional scale? [14:21] 7 out of 10. [14:21] I am zombie napolean! [14:22] check his birth certificate. [14:22] Wow. I'm just not getting a consistent stream. [14:22] Anybody got a restream? [14:22] ...dam arguementlike five mins in [14:22] Gift Certificate will work [14:22] Me, it keeps backtrackig [14:22] sp [14:22] http://66.228.123.40:8000/listen.pls [14:22] Yeh, it working [14:22] HE ISN'T NAPOLEAN!? [14:49] test [14:49] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat Aug 22 14:49:52 2009 Session Start: Sat Aug 22 14:50:00 2009 Session Ident: #nonprophets [14:50] * Now talking in #nonprophets [14:50] * Topic is 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information!' [14:50] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Aug 01 14:27:55 [14:50] * ChanServ sets mode: +qo Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [14:50] We need a sort of balance. [14:50] about time you guys showed up, the show's been on for nearly an hour ... [14:50] They were here earlier. [14:50] Universial healthcare is good. [14:50] It prevented me from dying. [14:50] Yes. [14:51] what are the only things that goverment has to take care of = socialism [14:51] free enterprise = capitalism [14:51] your police and fire departments are "socialistic" in nature [14:51] Si [14:51] they werent originally [14:51] * micah has quit IRC (Leaving) [14:51] So they are communists? [14:52] had to pay fire insurance [14:52] Yeah, all of them. :P [14:52] Matt said someone would say it. I said it. [14:52] sure, communist dictatorships doesn't work [14:52] * Nebleim has quit IRC (Nebleim) [14:52] communism in goverment = not good [14:53] Nizz-ope. [14:53] YAY NEWS! [14:53] Finally damn it. [14:53] I heard about this. Fox tried to demonize the courts. [14:53] lol fox. [14:53] Fixxd news [14:53] Faux news [14:54] fox noise [14:54] Fox is nothing more than Pravda for the ultra right [14:54] pravda is fair and balanced [14:54] No, it's just like 21 Jump Street [14:54] it's not just prayer, the teachers were openly proselytizing students [14:55] It's not even that, shadow. It's the fact they were doing so in direct violation of a previous court settlement [14:55] * MalReynolds has quit IRC (MalReynolds) [14:55] Court settlemnt!? [14:55] God doesn't listen to courts. [14:55] Yes. The district had previously gone to court [14:56] Here is the consent decree for the people of the school. http://tinyurl.com/consentdecree/ [14:56] yeah I know, there are many problems [14:57] NP== absolutely wrong [14:57] I think it depends on the girl [14:57] The school has the right to determine the appropriateness of a graduation speech [14:58] If they knew she was just going to proselytize [14:58] If she was proselytizing in her speech maybe.... [14:58] There seems no reason to forbid her as a speaker. Forbidding a particular speech is the appropriate action [14:59] true [14:59] last show in AE [14:59] was talked about [14:59] i hate ae [14:59] We know [14:59] :) [15:00] I don't think there's any realistic way to get nonbiased teachers [15:00] Robots [15:00] They are non biased. [15:00] but who designs the robots [15:00] ... [15:01] I-AM-BIBLE-BOT-3000 [15:01] lol [15:01] Curse you and your logic..... [15:01] ! [15:01] with no defined course = bad [15:02] Its alegorical [15:03] high school=/=college [15:03] Agreed. [15:03] There is a college course about the bible and its not as easy to digest with so much historical stuff to check [15:04] why just do the bible [15:04] why not the book of morman [15:04] have to go to work. bye all [15:04] or the quran? [15:04] How about HOW the Bible was created [15:04] bye [15:04] * rudeboy has left #nonprophets [15:04] The book of Mormon is irrelevant entirely [15:04] Use Code Sinusitus [15:04] Well, the bible has affected us more, historically and culturally. [15:04] ftw [15:04] * apparition has quit IRC (apparition) [15:04] Yes [15:05] The Bible could be fair game (though by no means a good thing for high school) [15:05] HEATHEN-BOT 2.0 beats BIBLE-BOT-3000. HEATHEN-BOT's regular firmware updates trumps BIBLE-BOTS unchange programming. [15:05] that will be interesting. KJV or Jeffersons lol [15:05] *Insert slowpoke.jpg* [15:05]