Session Start: Sat Jun 27 13:31:25 2009 Session Ident: #nonprophets [13:31] * Now talking in #nonprophets [13:31] * Topic is 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information!' [13:31] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat May 02 14:54:15 [13:32] metal @ mp3 40kbit/sec... :') [13:32] hm matt should do through the fire and the flames on guitar hero [13:33] If the 360 was connected to this, I coul [13:33] could [13:34] I challenge the Non Prophets to not even mention Micheal Jackson during the show. [13:34] that would is awesome... [13:35] lol [13:35] fat chance [13:35] is=be [13:35] typo@head [13:35] I will make sure to go to the Bat Cruise with the ACA in Austin in September [13:35] * jscott has joined #nonprophets [13:36] * AProcess has joined #nonprophets [13:36] who's michael jackson? [13:36] lol [13:36] well you could plug the microphone cable in the headphone out of your TV [13:37] * JD-sama has joined #nonprophets [13:37] I think non-prophets should use paltalk, so we cna chat and hear the show in one program [13:38] * AProcess has quit IRC (AProcess) [13:40] yeah, works great for TAE... [13:40] But there are so many new MJ jokes! [13:41] :P [13:41] wacko jacko heart attacko? [13:42] * Inova has joined #nonprophets [13:42] i love the british press they just dont give a f*** [13:42] we all know he couldn't "bet it" so don't even try that joke. [13:43] *beat [13:43] the sun is news corp iirc :P [13:43] I guess we're talking about MJ? [13:43] how about we don't [13:44] well he WAS the most famous person in the world [13:44] probably [13:44] yeah, lets not......it's all I've seen on the news for two days [13:44] no he wasn't [13:44] I mean, it's sad and all, but I would like to hear about SOMETHING else [13:44] * haveyoufoundFSM has joined #nonprophets [13:44] Ciarin7> is there another? [13:45] more famous than MJ I mean [13:45] but yeah [13:45] Inova: is [13:45] happy nonprophets day! [13:45] is the most famous [13:45] * helo_darqness has joined #nonprophets [13:45] it's not really sad. the only sad part is that he'll never face justice for his molestation [13:45] he's with elvis now [13:45] OMG JOACIM I SAID THE SAME THING [13:45] there has been too much press on him. [13:45] yeah...his fame was up there with Elvis [13:46] though I sorta have a firewall for this kinds of news. [13:46] the packet never really reaches me [13:46] :P [13:46] lol [13:46] helo_darqness: what? [13:46] strokin [13:47] Was he ever convicted for the whole molestation thing? [13:47] I wonder if they keep the Pope drugged up too... [13:47] no [13:47] **BREAKING NEWS** It wasn't a heart attack, he was found in the childrens ward having a stroke. [13:47] * aprocess has joined #nonprophets [13:47] ha ha ha [13:47] I just feel bad that nobody is talking about Farrah Fawcett. I don't really care about Michael Jackson. [13:47] I wonder how many roman legionnaires are guarding micheals corpse right now [13:47] as for more famous people, barack obama, paul mcCartney, the pope, queen elizabeth, kim jong il, mickey mouse [13:47] * helo_darkness_1 has joined #nonprophets [13:47] lol [13:47] farrah fawcett had a movie made about her, she's got enough coverage [13:48] joachim i lost my connection but i saw what you said [13:48] remember, always go for the head [13:48] i said the SAME THING! [13:48] "hes not dead. hes on mars, with elvis" [13:48] I don't really give a shit about Fawcett [13:48] stroke me, stroke me [13:48] aha [13:48] At least she wasn't an alleged pedophile. [13:48] i wish she was a pedophile [13:48] on mars. makes sense with the christian conspiracy to hide it [13:48] lol [13:48] then she could have done me [13:49] touchee [13:49] remember kids. its not harassment if the person is hot [13:49] "alleged" being the key word there...you never know, maybe he wasn't [13:49] darkness>> lol [13:49] he probably was though [13:49] we'll never know [13:49] ***The More You Know [13:49] lol [13:49] the kids that it happened to know [13:49] Farrah Fawcett was standing at the pearly gates yesterday talking to St. Peter. He told her she lived a good life and asked her what she would wish for if she had just one wish. "I would wish for the safety and happiness of all the children back on earth," she said. Not five minutes later, back on earth...2 hours ago [13:49] yeah, but he was still a weird guy. Farrah Fawcett was just a nice woman who got cancer (and did plenty of great playboy pinups) [13:50] diana was pretty famous - even more so after her death [13:50] Well, you can't know *anything* for sure! I mean, creationism could be true! [13:50] yep [13:50] did the stream stop playing music for you too [13:50] and she actually did some good int he world [13:50] yea it stopped playing music for me [13:50] that was a cool song though [13:50] Although I liked some of his music, I never really liked MJ as a person at all. [13:50] but we certainly can *try* to get as close to the truth as we can [13:51] I joked with my friend that when MJ died, Obama would make it a national day of mourning. clothes schools and government offices and have flags at half mast [13:51] anything MJ accompished in his life is negated by his child molestation [13:51] the np is taking a moment of silence [13:51] I mean, I'm not jumping up and down in excitment like after Jesse Helms died, but I'm not really mourning his death. [13:51] when he died, so much other stuff was happening in the world [13:51] lol wwfsmd [13:51] who gives a crap [13:51] * SgtHaile has joined #nonprophets [13:51] i dont [13:51] haveyoufoundFSM>> yeah. I find that if you seperate MJ's music from his personal life, I find alot to like [13:51] and im not sorry for saying so [13:51] * helo_darqness has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [13:52] test [13:52] stroke me is stuck in my head [13:52] some people say we should feel bad when anyone dies. I think that's ridiculous. [13:52] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er1Pm37yX08 [13:52] not *everyone* [13:52] yeah i agree [13:52] haveyoufoundFSM: it's selfish [13:52] when stan winston died i was sad though [13:52] when paul newman died, i was sad [13:52] unless you feel bad for the selfish people feeling worse [13:52] 9I never feel bad for the person that died, they're not in any pain...but I feel bad for their loved ones [13:52] what is? I didn't feel bad when Falwell died. [13:53] i was devastatedwhen don lafonaine died [13:53] you all should be [13:53] * MythosBuster has joined #nonprophets [13:53] That's not selfish. I did feel bad when Heath Ledger died. [13:53] he has the most famous voice in the world...aka "movie trailer guy" [13:53] haveyoufoundFSM: for what reason? [13:53] Ramen, hel_darkness [13:53] it's not like any of us knew him personally, and it's not like having singing talent or dancing skill warrants a heart felt farewell [13:53] What, Heath Ledger? He was a great actor who actually cared about acting and not about making $> [13:54] i actually hope lohan and spears and hilton die soon too [13:54] question: does the stream being up mean that there's gonna be a show? [13:54] i cant stand those people. [13:54] they are salt on an open wound [13:54] there's probly gonna be a show [13:54] haveyoufoundFSM: and ? [13:54] Maybe people are feeling sorry for themselves. Any death reminds you of your own mortality. [13:54] ahhhh [13:54] cool [13:54] britany and lohan are ok [13:54] hilton needs to die [13:54] soon [13:54] and what? he could no longer perform. the world lost a nice guy, of which we aren't really in great supply. I felt bad about this. [13:54] yeah but mond, im not afraid of death [13:54] I'd rather they not die. I'd rather they go down the spiral and end up as crackwhores on a street corner in detroit. That would be awesome [13:54] Is it selfish to feel bad that HL died and not Jerry Falwell? [13:55] I think Hilton IS already a cheap hooker [13:55] * leafy has joined #nonprophets [13:55] Who said anything about afraid of death? [13:55] I think the what is most upsetting is that MJ's death is riding on the coat tails of Farah's death [13:55] well i was talking to my dad...about N Korea and Iran wanting to blow america off the map. its a good suicide deterrent. i want to be here to see the world end [13:55] haveyoufoundFSM: yes [13:55] missing that would be sad. [13:55] how? [13:56] lol helo_darkness sitting on his deathbed "Aww...the world's still here..." [13:56] missing your own death is unfortunate [13:56] mmmm Westboro say anything about MJ's passing? [13:56] 3I've been touched by his noodly appendage [13:56] if i die in my sleep....i missed my one chance to die [13:56] lol [13:56] Ramen, shamaar [13:56] currently on air: the tenets and dogmas of atheism :) [13:56] Darkness> That's only if Iran doesn't go through an entire revolution [13:56] i'd love to go in my sleep [13:56] so i want to be there to see it, and if the world will end, maybe i can get laid for a change [13:56] eimerian, lol'd [13:57] * notasheep has joined #nonprophets [13:57] Yes, Ramen to you as well... [13:57] notasheep> then what are you? [13:57] I'd like to die how David Carradine's family says he died: Assassinated by an army of kung fu ninjas from the Tokyo underworld. [13:57] I plan to do some readings from the holy noodle on YouTube sometine [13:57] always check the ninja forecast [13:57] oh is that Ramen thing from youtube? [13:58] pirates > ninjas [13:58] haveyoufound: thats ridiculous. its OBVIOUS that a monkey was sent back in time and put AIDS in his cigarettes 20 years ago [13:58] i have proof [13:58] I always thought Ramen meant noodles [13:58] I read the FSM bible. It's incredibly. [13:58] * ShadowOfDoubt has joined #nonprophets [13:58] I'd like to die how David Carradine died in kill bill [13:58] * Braelay has quit IRC [13:58] incredibly* [13:58] its true beause i believe it [13:58] I prefer the Zombie Forecast [13:58] gd [13:58] incredible* [13:58] me too emerian [13:58] therre we go [13:58] www.venganza.org [13:58] SgtHaile: impossible [13:58] * DodgyEmu has joined #nonprophets [13:58] id like to die like they do at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark [13:58] ramen is amen for FSM people [13:59] can anyone hear anything [13:59] RAmen [13:59] i mean [13:59] * Urion_ has joined #nonprophets [13:59] can anyone hear NPR [13:59] i'd like to die at the end of the movie [13:59] On the topic of death, I'd like to kill Michael bay for making Transformers 2 [13:59] it's still quiet for me [13:59] Inova> Wow, that was fast. notasheep= not a follower, not deomesticated, etc. [13:59] darkness> then you'd like one of PZ's more recent posts :P [13:59] people remember sad flicks [13:59] for pastafarians! [13:59] transformers 2 was such a terrible movie [13:59] it was? [13:59] can you link me ioova [13:59] i'd like to die like a red shirt in star trek [13:59] yes [13:59] inova [13:59] i can helo_darkness_1, this is what atheist radio sounds like [13:59] the only good part was the forest fight [14:00] aradioists! [14:00] darkness>just a moment [14:00] mostly becsue you could see what was going on [14:00] i want to die a quick but painFUL death because i want to feel it. like a plane crash or lion attack [14:00] currently on air: moral implications of not believing [14:00] the only good part I thought was when it was in slo-mo. other than that the fight scenes just looked like humps of metal smashing into each other [14:00] like a big car crusher [14:00] Running late [14:00] going from beathing to dead in a split second [14:00] figures [14:00] so... any atheists who don't believe in anything? [14:00] 4The silence is driving me INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [14:00] that's okay, Matt/Denis/Shilling/Thad/Russell. At least you're broadcasting today [14:01] it's probably the only movie in history where more slow mo would have helped [14:01] lol [14:01] haha true [14:01] darkness> They're opening the Ark: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/06/dont_do_it.php [14:01] what movie LKL? [14:01] * Roland has joined #nonprophets [14:01] transformers 2 [14:01] joachim they wouldnt answer because the dont believe that your question is serious [14:01] much facemelting will ensue [14:01] you like that pile of crap? [14:01] nope [14:01] eimerian: oh, it is [14:01] Never knew God was a shadow priest [14:01] * Urion_ is now known as Urion [14:01] joachim well tell them :P [14:01] no, none of us seem to like it. good, smart people we are. [14:02] i don't believe in anything, depending on the definition [14:02] do you believe the children are our future? [14:02] no [14:02] teach them well and let the m lead the way? [14:02] lets go with matts: acceptance of a claim to be true [14:02] If you define anything as god, then I don't believe in anything. I actually believe that anything does not exist, and never existed. [14:02] hey anyone know y they dnt put up video podcast of the atheist experiance? [14:02] i don't think micheal bay knows waht an actual explosion looks like of why it happens [14:02] i think they are delicious [14:02] * ROBOTPHILOSOPHER has joined #nonprophets [14:02] *or [14:02] i expect them to be, but i don't believe they will [14:02] has the show started? [14:02] KD they put it on youtube [14:02] i don't think michael bay knows what a movie looks like. [14:03] mmm the stream is... slient [14:03] haha [14:03] LKL he would make better comedies. [14:03] thanks inova [14:03] I watched Atheist Experience in Video a couple days ago [14:03] NO HE WOULDN'T [14:03] but not on purpose [14:03] #610 [14:03] i didn't laugh once during that movie, except for when they teleported mid-sentence [14:03] FSM he would. his movies ARE comedies [14:03] only parts and some shows have sections missing its just easier for me to get it off of itunes because i dnt always have internet [14:03] then never mentioned it agian [14:03] just tone down the drama [14:03] haveyoufoundFSM: so what do you believe in? [14:03] and add a clown and a prostitute [14:04] * gmp has joined #nonprophets [14:04] everything that I believe it, obviously. [14:04] * hanspshansen has joined #nonprophets [14:04] in* [14:04] , please define "Anything" [14:04] obviously [14:04] its so sad that sequels work [14:04] shamar, what is this? bill clinton [14:04] can you define "is" [14:04] shamar: any thing :) [14:04] actually, there've been some really good sequels lately. Dark Knight...and.....others.... [14:05] crank 2 [14:05] sure [14:05] "is" is is. [14:05] * GibsonO has joined #nonprophets [14:05] Has the show started yet cause I don't hear anything [14:05] have the Non Prophets ever talked about Alan Watts? [14:05] I don't hear anyhting either [14:05] he said they are running late [14:05] he asked if we believed in anything.....I would have accadentally killed myself long ago if I didn't believe in anything.......so he must define his terms [14:05] no i mean its sad that they work in making you want to see the movie [14:05] anyone know what the topics will be? [14:05] no matter if they suck or not [14:06] I think it's more sad how well they usually perform at the box office, even if they're atrocious. [14:06] yeah [14:06] it's on! [14:06] there it went... [14:06] woot! [14:06] shamar: why would you kill yourself? [14:06] oops [14:06] how many parts of saw will there be? [14:06] Topics- Gay exorcism? Sanford as "king David"? [14:06] or not.. [14:06] checks [14:06] no spurprise [14:07] mike checks! [14:07] the intros are so interesting [14:07] just because micheal bay fucked it up doesn't mean that "giant photorealistic robots fighting eachother" is not a movie that anybody would actively avoid. [14:07] I love the mike checks [14:07] lol [14:07] a guy in film school said it best. "Remaking a movie is the most dishonest and risresctful thing a filmmaker can do. Its like rewriting a book" [14:07] the one im really looking forward too is 28 months later though [14:07] i'm going to go check on mike. [14:07] If I didn't believe that fire was hot and dangerous, for example, I may have stumbled into it...so I had to believe in something [14:07] * KD has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042315]) [14:07] shilling's is fucked up [14:07] i thought schilling was leaving [14:07] shamar, that's not really a belief though, it's an accepted fact [14:07] Ok...starting [14:07] yay! [14:07] i cant hear [14:07] * DorisES has joined #nonprophets [14:08] so, If you ask me if I believe in "anything", then you must define what you mean by "anything" [14:08] can yo hear? [14:08] can you guys hear? [14:08] or you must define believe [14:08] experiencing fire as burning is not the same as believing fire is hot [14:08] no cant hear [14:08] but in this context I believe he's asking if you believe anything not supported by science, such as supernatural phenomena and the like [14:08] i try not to use the term "believe" since it's often mistaken for faith in an assumption... [14:09] it's my belief that you guys would rather get into semantics than simply answering a question [14:09] I understand what he is asking, but he must define it, before I can point out the falacies [14:09] i hope this intro is extra long. i need to get some food [14:09] do I believe in science? No. I understand it and trust that my findings and conclusions are correct. [14:09] Shilling doing an intro? Awesome! [14:09] yeah [14:09] * Nangua has joined #nonprophets [14:09] thats a first [14:09] i'm not sure how to define anything [14:10] I also don't believe in science, I accept it as the best way to gain knowledge of our natural world [14:10] * ROBOTPHILOSOPHER has quit IRC (ROBOTPHILOSOPHER) [14:10] i mean believing any proposition [14:10] then you can't make an argument [14:10] you have to define your premises [14:10] your mic sounds fine, you sound funny thogh [14:10] Hoo-ah! I've located a picture of shilling! [14:10] http://atheist-community.org/activism/board.php [14:10] * Nangua rings the bell [14:10] * Nangua is a computer geek [14:10] * Nangua forgot to hit the breaks [14:10] * Nangua is a total cuckoo [14:10] * Nangua opens the door and steps inside [14:10] * Nangua is wet [14:10] * Nangua head explodes [14:10] * Nangua took a dump, ahhh thats better [14:10] * Nangua gongs you [14:10] * Nangua joins in the fun [14:10] * Nangua wants to come inside [14:10] * Nangua thats funny [14:10] * Nangua plays some really duff music [14:10] * Nangua plays some really duff music [14:10] if you understand what he's asking then he doesn't need to define anything [14:11] * Nangua you better take notice of me [14:11] * Nangua is a sci-fi freak [14:11] * Nangua loves sliding spaceship doors [14:11] * Nangua catches the last train [14:11] * Nangua wants everyones attention [14:11] * Nangua catches the last train [14:11] nangua is a douche [14:11] * Nangua loves sliding spaceship doors [14:11] * Nangua is a sci-fi freak [14:11] * Nangua you better take notice of me [14:11] * Nangua plays some really duff music [14:11] * Nangua moo's like a mad cow [14:11] * Nangua thats funny [14:11] * Nangua wants to come inside [14:11] * Nangua joins in the fun [14:11] * Nangua gongs you [14:11] * Nangua took a dump, ahhh thats better [14:11] * Nangua head explodes [14:11] * Nangua is wet [14:11] * Nangua opens the door and steps inside [14:11] Nangua needs to stfy [14:11] * Nangua is a total cuckoo [14:11] * Nangua forgot to hit the breaks [14:11] * Nangua is a computer geek [14:11] stfu [14:11] wow... [14:11] * Nangua rings the bell [14:11] /ignore Nangua [14:11] ignored [14:11] wow [14:11] Sorry I didn't do that on purpose [14:11] i said depending on definition (of belief), i'm not sure i grasp the concept [14:11] Of course not. [14:12] denis needs another N [14:12] your fingers were automous of your brain [14:12] all arguments are basically like that [14:12] Seriously, it's my first time here... sorry guys [14:12] so i'd like to hear the definition from someone who claim to believe anything [14:12] "It's my first time" is always the excuse [14:12] joachim yes i do [14:12] I'd probably just use one of the dictionary definitions [14:13] lets stick with believe = acceptance to be true [14:13] in that case i beleive alot of things [14:13] ok, then i don't accept anything as true [14:13] lol [14:13] do you believe you exist? [14:13] Well, there's not much I can say to convince anyone... but I do apologize. [14:13] including your last sentence? [14:14] agnosticman77 did it [14:14] * Nangua has quit IRC (Nangua) [14:14] i know the video [14:14] Ciarin7: no [14:14] eimerian: not sure what you mean [14:14] I think I've seen it [14:14] that's weird [14:14] any1 have a link to the video? [14:14] lol [14:14] do you accept as true your statement that you dont accept anything as true? [14:14] no [14:15] * JF has joined #nonprophets [14:15] i might accept something [14:15] I think joachim just wants to be contrary [14:15] hehe [14:15] I was about to say....wtf is wrong with Russell's voice? [14:15] so we got ourselves a paradox here [14:15] where? [14:16] lol [14:16] its like saying "I always lie" [14:16] what is? [14:16] farrah fawcett died [14:16] so, would Jebus be considered a dangerous weapon??? [14:16] you not believing that you dont believe anything [14:16] yay [14:16] that's a silly debate [14:17] if I want a response I usually just message matt on facebook [14:17] mmm my connection with Matt's server is weak [14:17] The mainstream news shows always spend wayyyyyyyyy too much time on dead people. It drives me nuts. [14:17] where is the paradox? [14:17] that's because if they don't people will think they are disrespecting the dead celeb [14:18] it's like going to an italian funeral and not having the biggest bouquet of flowers [14:18] "i don't believe anything" is a shortcut for having rejected every proposition [14:18] You mean they're afraid they'll get whacked? [14:18] wheneverI think of organ donatino I recall the sketch from monty python and the meaning of life [14:18] http://picturesforsadchildren.com/blog/famous.png [14:18] you state that you dont beleive in anything but you dont believe this statement to be true so you believe in something and dont believe in anything at the same time [14:19] what do i believe in? [14:19] I would think that it's a bit selfish to not be an organ donor [14:19] donating blood and plasma is good [14:19] and you get paid for plasma [14:19] Do you believe that I am a human and not a very intelligent dog? [14:19] arf arf? [14:19] haveyoufoundFSM: sit. hush. [14:19] *pants* [14:19] you must believe in something or else you would be convinced that you dont believe in anything [14:19] we need the dog whisperer [14:20] *pst* hey dogs... [14:20] * Urion has left #nonprophets [14:20] eimerian: why? [14:20] the whole "I don't believe in anything inlcuding this sentence" debate is STUPID. It's pointless and circular, can yu knock it off please? [14:20] because. thats how believing things works its an either or thing [14:20] Okay, Joachim, do you believe that you are a human? [14:20] 3yes, let it go...the show is on [14:21]