Session Start: Sat Dec 13 12:51:53 2008 Session Ident: #nonprophets [12:51] * Now talking in #nonprophets [12:51] * Topic is 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information!' [12:51] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Dec 06 13:12:33 [12:51] * ChanServ sets mode: +qo Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [12:52] Insto: kato moro [12:52] ;> [12:52] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! [12:52] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information!' [12:52] No srlsy guise. They dont exist here. [12:52] maybe they're just near extinction? [12:52] Latuman: lucky guy. [12:52] you might find one and think WTF! like a ceolocanth [12:53] Maybe [12:53] I sure as hell would ridicule him/her [12:53] tiktaalik the creationist! [12:53] so, it's been literally about 6 years since I've listened to a live stream in winamp,... how do I do it? [12:53] I dunno, I use Foobar [12:54] Ctrl + O? [12:54] what does that do? [12:54] Gleemax, you have a new version winamp? [12:54] Mostly AFK. Stream is up...please give Sanguines, FTR and other re-streamers a chance to connect before we flood the server [12:54] in foobar I just go "file -> Open location" and add the address [12:54] Gleemax: not sure with the latest version; I use 2.95 still (the newer ones are kind of annoying). Try Add->Add Url->"http://66.228.123.40:8000/listen.pls" [12:54] ok, I'll try that in winamp (old old version afaik) [12:54] in the playlist, that is. [12:54] or yeah, what Latuman said. [12:55] ok, I think it worked [12:55] ken's instructions should work with all versions winamp [12:55] *of winamp [12:56] 2.95 is quite retro. [12:56] it's the latest version before AOL bought them ;) [12:56] thanks, oldversion.com! [12:56] I'm using 5.24 [12:56] well, it's the last without all the bloat [12:56] Its time to move on, Ken. [12:56] Insto: bingo [12:56] i use it sometimes myself [12:56] I tried winamp a week ago, and it did give the options to remove most of the bloat [12:56] * mond has joined #nonprophets [12:57] It looked like it would be like in the olden days [12:57] they still do the "lite" thing then? [12:57] yeah, you can change the skin but core is still rotten :) [12:57] Well, I got the full install, but the install program did give a lot of options [12:57] I would switch to that if I were you [12:57] I've only run across the *very* occasional problem, otherwise it's tiny and low-CPU usage. I think it's perfect. [12:58] If I did use winamp that is... [12:58] Ye, its nice for casual banging [12:58] I had to switch to iTunes when I got my iPod [12:58] iTunes makes baby jesus cry :( [12:58] I got another computer almost solely for my ipod, lol [12:58] that's ok, he's not realy anyways [12:58] itunes FORCES baby jesus to cry [12:58] * Rlph has joined #nonprophets [12:58] i'll second that, ken :) [12:59] I just reformatted mine, and use the unix tools ;) [12:59] bloody apple [12:59] well, I do have a MacBook Pro now... but I really don't want to use up such a huge portion of the harddrive for music [12:59] Its amazing how they make itunes so horrible and destroy any compatibility with other software [12:59] especially when I got it to be my school/work machine [12:59] * Rlph has quit IRC (Rlph) [12:59] I just want to drag and drop! Theres nothign wrong with that! [13:01] agreed. having it pop up as a portable hd would be so much better. [13:02] oh boy! starting? [13:02] a bit early, isn't it? [13:02] is the stream up? [13:02] Just playing music to check levels [13:02] My clock shows 21:03 now [13:02] oh, ok :) [13:02] I think they're testing stuff [13:02] Stream is up...starting in an hour [13:02] or so [13:02] ok, so i thought [13:02] Thats 2 mins late. [13:02] lol [13:03] Oh the show starts one hour from now? [13:03] 57 minutes hopefully [13:03] good, my clock isn't insane. [13:03] Oh, my calculations were incorrect then [13:03] hope i'll have time to go to the sauna before the start [13:03] windows is shutting down! [13:03] lol [13:03] No dont do that! [13:04] My vista machine just did an xp. [13:04] There is huge interference going on! [13:04] why not? a quick cleanse before the bi-weekly sermon :) [13:04] Insto: Remember, under the foreskin [13:04] o_O [13:04] only if you still have one [13:04] yes yes, we, the uncut [13:05] :P [13:05] Abraham would disapprove. [13:05] certainly [13:05] Eugh lets not even go there [13:05] Windows is now loading [13:05] After the penn & teller episode, I'm a bit tense about it [13:06] that was a "good" episode, as in informative and eye-opening [13:06] Well yes, but did they really have to show the whole fucking mutilation? [13:06] I got nightmares [13:07] I still don't know what I'd do if I had a son and had to choose... [13:07] good point [13:07] Insto: indeedy, I don't think many people really gave it that much thought before that. [13:07] Made me want to jump through the TV and save the poor child [13:07] I had mine done when I was 17 for medical reasons NOT FUN [13:07] Gleemax: And I still dont understand WHY what would be an issue [13:07] What the hell? Oh gee lets slice off your earlobes too! [13:07] Gleemax: cripes! I'm cut, but they did it shortly after I was born (family tradition), so I obviously don't remember it. [13:07] Its a question that should not even exist. Christ! [13:07] 17?! [13:07] * KenHam shivers [13:08] i don't know anyone who's had it done [13:08] yeah... I developed phimosis and had to have it done [13:08] as a baby or in adulthood [13:08] Even though I agree with almost everything Matt & Co. say, I still have a different perspective to these questions [13:08] Like mutilation, its straight out of the question [13:08] Cant believe why anyone would even argue about it, even bring it up. [13:09] Latuman: you think that's funny? read Genesis 17: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2017&version=9; [13:09] I think I had some phimosis too, but nothing that "training" couldnt fix [13:09] God sure is obsessed with penises [13:09] Sad thing is, sometimes they just do it. That's what happened to my dad, they circumsized him without even asking his parents. Then when I was born my dad was adament that the they weren't doing it to me [13:09] Sick [13:10] the reason I can't decide is that I'd rather my kid doesn't need it, but if he does I don't want him to have it done AFTER he tries to have his first time with a girl (or guy) [13:10] I dont get it, why stop there? Why not remove every body part that is not that needed? [13:10] My fingernails sometimes get dirty should I rip them all off? [13:10] Gleemax: Fun fact: Most boys do not suffer from phimosis or other stuff. Nature has made sure that mating WILL be pleasant and penis will work fine [13:11] so tell me: your dad wanders into the forest, hears voices, and comes back to the house demanding part of your unit be cut off. Do you A) let him, or B) call the police? [13:11] my brother did as well, so I don't know if it runs in my family or if it's just coincidence [13:11] Gleemax: Since here in finland its only done for medical reasons, I have never heard that anyone has gone through it (though prolly they would not tell me, but still) [13:11] Gleemax: Instead its important to tell your kids to play with it, so it stretches and is working right [13:11] cosmetic surgery of the belly button, anyone? [13:11] lol [13:11] Without training, I could see problems arise [13:11] you're probably right [13:12] But yeah, I think boys know how to train their dicks ;) [13:12] You have to remember what wer are talking about: Penis. If one organ would be "perfect" in some way, thats it [13:12] yeah, if you don't feed them corn flakes :) [13:12] Its the tool used to procreate [13:13] Natural selection would quickly eliminate genes that would somehow make it even uncomfortable. [13:13] cause you "know" what corn flakes do for the sex drive :P [13:13] * aaa has joined #nonprophets [13:13] Hmm [13:13] not if the end of it gets chopped off at birth all the time [13:13] Wasnt Kellogg a nutjob? [13:13] * aaa has left #nonprophets [13:13] * big_dill91 has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]) [13:13] the guy that invented the graham cracker sure was [13:13] The inventor of cornflakes. Werent they inveted so that kids wouldnt jerk off? [13:14] a ____ kind of nutjob [13:14] Didnt work. [13:14] fill the blank [13:14] Latuman: I heard that, too [13:14] you're thinking graham crackers [13:14] GOOGLE DAMN YOU [13:14] * ihedenius has joined #nonprophets [13:14] * Gleemax googles "damn you" [13:14] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Keith_Kellogg [13:15] * kyokuma_jr has joined #nonprophets [13:15] crunchy nut cronflakes are the best [13:15] oh, C.W. Post was a "sanitarium guest" [13:16] "He was a Seventh-day Adventist, " on J. H. Kellogg [13:16] I liked their granola cereal. didn't know he was a nutter, too. [13:16] no surprise there :) [13:17] what's the code word for the drinking game this week? [13:17] it seems Gleemax was right on the money. [13:18] * Gleemax does a little dance [13:18] victory! [13:18] then again, the graham cracker entry mentions John Kellogg, too ;) [13:19] So theres not gonna be much going on before the hour? [13:19] I'll listen to music then. [13:19] Insto: you choose. I'm nursing a hangover already [13:20] no booze here, so I'll sit this out [13:20] * Ememel has joined #nonprophets [13:20] how do i connect to the live stream? [13:20] i'm might have some hangoveriness tomorrow [13:20] remains to be seen [13:20] u got winamp? [13:21] Can anyone help me find where I can watch the old "30 days: Atheist vs Christian" episode? I tried different hulu & other places, but they don't have it anywhere. [13:21] http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1229196012844.gif [13:21] I think I'm going to hell [13:21] lol [13:21] just shows the 4chan leech image... but that fact alone confirms your hypothesis [13:22] Ememel: Get an audio player software. Winamp, foobar, or something like that. They have the option to open a "location" or "url" or a "stream" and enter http://nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls there [13:22] Gleemax: Didnt know it did that [13:22] itunes, vlc [13:22] Both will work [13:22] I recommend VLC actually [13:23] Show will probably start in about 38 minutes [13:23] this one of the rebroadcast streams--------> http://66.228.123.40:8000/listen.pls [13:23] kyokuma_jr: http://www.newtorrents.info/torrent/10184/30.Days.S02E03.DSR.XviD-hV.html?nopop=1 [13:23] Hey, do you know, the nonprophets radio has bought the rights to play the songs they play in the beginning and the end? [13:24] for serious? [13:24] nifty [13:24] kyokuma_jr: if that doesn't work, I have it on DVD in the other room, but I've gotta hunt a bit [13:24] Sanguines, you still responsible for the restreams? [13:24] The law requires to pay some royalties or something, right? [13:24] yes [13:24] * Ememel_ has joined #nonprophets [13:24] Ok [13:24] ok, i thought it started this hour [13:25] So they wont probably play what we ask [13:25] Ememel: Me too [13:25] Apparently only the stream comes online, but its silent for an hour [13:25] Makes perfect sense. [13:25] Yup [13:25] You will hear the mic tests closer to broadcast [13:25] that way you don't miss the awesome intros [13:25] I'll be back in a minute, afk [13:26] me and some friends discussed the label bastard [13:27] if twins A and B have sex with C giving rise to child D, will it matter if A and C are married? [13:27] * kyokuma_jr has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [13:27] Dont get it. [13:28] back, and in the eyes of the law... no, but it probably should matter [13:28] at least in the the US [13:28] Are we assuming one of them is married to C? And are they identical twins? [13:28] are twins A and B both of the same sex? [13:28] it is undeterminable wheter the father of D is married to the mother of D [13:28] they're identical [13:28] * Ememel has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [13:28] But who gets the girl preggo? [13:28] * Ememel_ is now known as Ememel [13:28] and wait, forget what I said, I misunderstood [13:29] And one of them is married to C, we just don't know who is the father? [13:29] yes [13:29] Actually, no-one cares [13:29] well, i'm off to sauna, be back later [13:29] Could be either one [13:29] we also considered siamese twins with two dings, but only one sack [13:30] is it a case of schrödinger cat bastardness? [13:30] sauna? here I am freezing my ass of in my own bedroom [13:30] off* [13:30] In a technical sense, I'd say it depends on how you define bastard. If it's a child born out of wedlock it won't be a bastard because she is married, if the parents must be married to each other than the child is a bastard, but it is irrelevent to the rights they receive. [13:31] may be a bastard* [13:31] not "is a bastard" [13:32] * kyokuma_jr has joined #nonprophets [13:32] simultaneous bastard and not bastard? [13:33] see, I misread this whole scenario and thought that twins were A and B, twin B marries girl C and has child D, then twin A marries child D [13:33] No, he's either one or the other. The uncertainty principle doesn't apply because we have observed him so he has decayed into one or the other. We just have insufficient info to know which is the case [13:34] Then they should just roll the dice or something [13:34] rolling dice would be an awesone legal option [13:34] trial by jury or roll of a D20 [13:34] And unless there was a fraternal triplet in the womb that was absorbed by one of the twin embryos giving one twin 2 sets of DNA (real condition) then paternity tests couldn't help either [13:35] Make sure you take into account my "+1 mace of invincibility" [13:35] and -2 dead drunk [13:35] jury trials make me nervous in a country where 80% of people believe in imaginary sky fairies. [13:35] +4 of DOOOM [13:35] omg I'm lvl79 now [13:36] Cant wait to ding 80! [13:36] will the trials be harder with the levels? [13:36] I've always played either paper and dice, or NWN... level 80 is soooooo beyond my scope of imagination [13:36] Bah [13:37] Vidya is the way to go [13:37] now you are leveled enough to face first degree murder [13:37] I'm assuming you're talking WOW? [13:37] lol, And if you roll a critical hit you can get an extra murder free [13:37] Gleemax: Ye [13:37] There are no other mmmorpafsbafshasdgs [13:37] if it weren't for the whole pay once and keep paying again and again thing... I'd go for it [13:38] but I hate dropping $60 for a game the first time [13:38] I think WoW is actually briliant [13:38] if you fail, the punishment should be determined by the magnitude of failing [13:38] let alone every month afterwards [13:38] I can imagine hobbies that cost 10 times as much [13:38] Exactly why I never go with the online games. I'm too cheap to pay repeatedly for a game I'll inevitably get bored of once the next CoD or MoH comes out [13:39] and hobbies infinitely cheaper [13:39] CoD?! [13:39] I CAST THEE OUT [13:39] call of duty [13:39] Call of Duty [13:39] Havent played anything but WoW for the last... 2 years maybe? [13:39] poor bastard [13:39] My friend always gets them, and I'm addicted to getting the acheivements [13:39] Only thing it lacks is a working social network [13:39] oh man, do any of you guys listen to This American Life? [13:39] dwarf fortress be the game of life [13:39] * macbruski is now known as macbruski|away [13:40] this week's was about a preacher who was called a heretic for realizing that Jesus died for EVERYONE [13:40] Gleemax: sometimes. was there a good episode recently? [13:40] ooh, sounds fun [13:40] And as soon as Halo: ODST comes out next year that's going to take my time for a good chunk of time [13:40] practically his whole congregation left becausew they didn't want everyone to be saved, they wanted people to earn it [13:40] * Ememel_ has joined #nonprophets [13:40] * Liei has joined #nonprophets [13:40] Sounds fair [13:41] not if you buy the whole Jesus = love thing [13:41] silly theists... always at war with their neighboring tribes [13:42] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH23kuniRNI [13:42] WIN! [13:42] * rudeboy has joined #nonprophets [13:42] lol [13:42] gack! [13:42] * microbiologychick has joined #nonprophets [13:43] gack? [13:43] that nickelodeon stuff? [13:43] that stuff was AWESOME [13:43] "gack" -- explosive expression of someone undergoing withdrawl from a night out on the town [13:43] nice youtube [13:44] * NeutronJack has joined #nonprophets [13:44] nj!! [13:44] this is still my favorite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQOdNY-HdG0 [13:44] Ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudeboy! [13:44] fresh -more-or-less from a night of alcoholically propelled networking [13:45] fresh cause I just got out of the shower [13:45] Finally got here on time for once! [13:45] yeah, and I missed the last show [13:45] you and everybody else did [13:45] Well, it was sort of unexpected. [13:45] I was there. :-) [13:45] * Ememel has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [13:46] :-p [13:46] * Ememel_ is now known as Ememel [13:46] * Wargasm has quit IRC (Client exited) [13:46] i was late to when i thought the show would end [13:47] I checked the site 15 mins before it usually start last week, and I still missed it =( [13:47] I checked at noon that day just to be sure... and they didn't even update the website [13:47] I was off on a used bookstore run -- so it was moot [13:48] didn't find anything worth buying [13:48] used books = my wallet's best friends [13:48] yeah , me too [13:48] * Wargasm has joined #nonprophets [13:48] I usualyl wait for the bestsellers to hit the used stores, any new sci-fi I buy new though [13:49] usually paperbacks if they're out already [13:49] considering I live in LA, only a handful of used bookstores still in business. The internet sales has killed the market [13:49] I prefer to go to a store an handle the book I want to buy [13:50] I live in the burbs of Boston... we've got a few good ones scattered about [13:50] * Scott has joined #nonprophets [13:51] tada! [13:51] toddie? [13:51] * big_dill91 has joined #nonprophets [13:51] Good entrance.. I give it a 7/10 [13:51] I have a friend named Todd. His mother calls him Toddy, which amuses us to no end. [13:51] it sucked lol [13:51] I did like the flip with the double twist [13:52] * big_dill91 has quit IRC (big_dill91) [13:52] brb -- need to dry off what's left of my hair [13:53] i liked your masculine voice [13:53] uhhhh... what? [13:53] the entrance "tada" was so deep [13:53] in my mind [13:53] i know right [13:53] lol [13:53] im a genius [13:54] modest also [13:54] at least i was here last week [13:54] me too [13:54] :-p!!!! [13:55] >:) [13:55] i wish [13:55] * Dodgy_Emu has joined #nonprophets [13:55] * dryice has joined #nonprophets [13:56] hi emu and dry [13:56] lo [13:56] hi everyone [13:56] I try to always dodge emus when possible [13:56] Afternoon, dryice! [13:56] hola [13:56] used to drive a plymouth emu -- good gas mileage [13:57] Evening, dryice ! [13:57] good morning! [13:57] que tal? [13:57] nada, e tu? [13:57] muy bien, gracias [13:57] Setting up... 3 of us are here [13:58] who's missing? [13:58] Who do we even have there? [13:58] let us knoooooowwwww [13:58] well, here today -- gone to maui [13:58] tell me tell me tell me!!! [13:58] my bet's on matt, denis and shilling [13:59] I like matt [13:59] any guess as to theme? [13:59] Matt's my favourite [13:59] i'm betting on that as well, since Kazim is not up. [13:59] i love the intros [13:59] me too [13:59] Russell's mine, he's the most level-headed. [14:00] whoever came up with Dillahunty International Studios" [14:00] I like Matt because he is so mean to people [14:00] is a genius [14:00] Which I think is integral [14:00] Matt is the best. [14:00] * TedInSaltLake has joined #nonprophets [14:00] well, if you want mean to people then petition to bring back Jeff [14:00] he excelled at that [14:00] Is Jeff the guy with the high pitched voice? [14:00] will he return? [14:01] the first time I saw the picture on the NPR website, I saw Jeff and thought it was MAtt with hair [14:01] has the show begun yet? [14:01] they look nothing alike [14:01] oh, back just in time [14:01] I'm going to spoil the secret. Jeff will be on today. [14:01] yeah, I know this now [14:01] yay [14:01] Its 2 minutes past the hour. Where be the show?! [14:01] we are hungry [14:01] omfg no way, that is amazing. [14:01] show [14:01] show [14:01] * NeutronJack claps slowly [14:01] show [14:01] show [14:01] I heard a click! [14:01] show [14:01] Thats good, right? [14:02] wait for it. 90 second delay from origin to reception [14:02] YAY! [14:02] Hello! [14:02] Hi thar! [14:02] weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [14:02] countles disc- [14:02] hey there [14:02] And just that quickly, he was killed! [14:02] he died blarg [14:02] noooooooo [14:02] dang [14:02] Good show [14:02] * big_dill91 has joined #nonprophets [14:03] suddenly the sound ceased [14:03] it was dillihunting season [14:03] well, plenty more where he came from [14:03] is it just me or did russel just stop talking? [14:03] santa claus got him [14:03] They're back now [14:03] they be laughing [14:03] JEFF [14:03] hey, jeff [14:03] loud guy -- shoulda heard me last night [14:03] I have raspy throat today [14:04] u be jeff? [14:04] * TedInSaltLake has quit IRC (Client exited) [14:04] * Kevin has joined #nonprophets [14:04] Ok...starting soon [14:04] here's a link, to prepare you... [14:04] * Kevin is now known as UneTortue [14:05] ooooh, Dj fuck up [14:05] christiantheology.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/pitfalls-for-atheists-to-avoid/ [14:05] * big_dill91 is now known as Dylta [14:05] * dm has joined #nonprophets [14:05] * Gleemax is reading christian crap [14:05] Good link [14:05] Good brainfarts [14:05] Advice from theists? I don't know ... [14:06] how about: pitfalls for xtians to fall into? [14:06] * andy9279 has joined #nonprophets [14:06] * TedInSaltLake has joined #nonprophets [14:06] * Pjotr has joined #nonprophets [14:06] ooh, can we play Name that Fallacy with this one? [14:06] Why no start? [14:06] is everybody there yet? [14:07] Hallo all, i'm new here. [14:07] same here [14:07] hey there Pjotr [14:07]