Session Start: Sat Oct 04 13:37:46 2008 Session Ident: #nonprophets [13:37] * Now talking in #nonprophets [13:37] * Topic is 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information!' [13:37] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Sep 20 13:45:04 [13:38] -> *nickserv* identify g0dl3ss [13:38] * ChanServ sets mode: +qo Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [13:38] * Blueblur has joined #nonprophets [13:38] Furthermore, my tv card can be used for such rebroadcasting of pretty much any video stream I care to put through the program that came with it which enables output to a device or continuous file. [13:38] Anyone see Religulous? [13:38] GizmoIscariot, no .. was gonna ask earlier =P [13:38] I did - hilarious. [13:38] * rudeboy has joined #nonprophets [13:38] What's the program name? [13:39] Hasn't been in Danish theatres yet. [13:39] * Targ has joined #nonprophets [13:39] Yeah, it was quite hilarious. I was also surprised to see it pretty much completely sold out. There wasn't but a couple of empty seats in the theatre which is rare for just about any movie here. [13:39] I can't be the only one who saw it.. ok good.. lol [13:39] It was where I saw it, too - not a seat left. [13:39] Oh man, I tried [13:40] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets The Non-Prophets are LIVE at http://www.nonprophetsradio.com. Today's guest - Guy P. Harrison! [13:40] * ChanServ changes topic to 'The Non-Prophets are LIVE at http://www.nonprophetsradio.com. Today's guest - Guy P. Harrison!' [13:40] I went at 7pm to get tickets for the 10:05 showing [13:40] SOLD OUT [13:40] I want it in Danish cinemas. :( [13:40] debdrup, what's that programs name? [13:40] I'm serious.. $100 if you even point me towards what derives a solution [13:41] I can't remember the name of it and my graphics card in my desktop is currently broken. [13:41] Either flash/rtsp, wme or nsvcap [13:41] Your graphics card has video overlay? [13:41] So everything you played in one screen went to the extended desktop? [13:41] Nope. [13:41] Okay, good [13:41] It's all in the tv card. [13:42] And I can't for the life of me remember the name of the friggin' program, and it's not on Hauppauges page anymore. [13:42] Almost my fave parts of Religulous were the tiny details - like the weird sound effects they added in.. like that woman running and screaming in the background, or the construction worker at the Creation Museum... funny stuff. [13:42] The card, that is - can't find the software either. Curse bad webdesign. [13:42] lol yeah [13:42] Well I still think you're mistaken about the compatability regarding this device. Doesn't matter though... if you ever do remember, please please let me know. sanguiness@gmail.com [13:43] I have 3 TV streams going at once, 24/7 [13:43] Everyone was dying laughing at the girl that screamed running. [13:43] I run 4 different sites dedicated to streaming video, directory, etc [13:43] Ow [13:43] & a network of online radio sites ;) [13:43] Feedback [13:43] echo echo echo [13:43] Is that the famous religious test for office..? [13:43] Hm, finder's having serious problems right now.. [13:43] So I'm not a n00b, and I do believe your experience.. but I'm telling ya, the thing you proposed is WAY WAY desires by many, and not in the realm of regular use [13:43] hello-o-o-o-o [13:44] hello! [13:44] What the hell... [13:44] no echo that time around [13:44] lol [13:44] lol [13:44] Oopes [13:44] http://nonprophets3.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls [13:44] http://nonprophets2.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls [13:44] Someone hung up. [13:44] If you use these servers, the main server will stay clear [13:44] Damn it! [13:44] now you did it, you pissed off the recording of the telephone operator [13:45] I have to reboot my mac because something broke but I can't figure out what's wrong [13:45] Gigabit on SoftLayer (US) & Gigabit on Leaseweb (NL) [13:45] "something broke?" [13:45] Yes. Something. [13:45] what? [13:45] Mac? [13:45] software crash? [13:45] I can't make my dock appear from hiding and I can't multitab. [13:45] You have a Mac and you're suggesting computer solutions to people? hehehe [13:45] * Sanguines slaps debdrup around a bit with a large trout [13:45] ... [13:46] Did you the WHOLE mac? [13:46] GO to Apple upper left hand corner and open dock preference [13:46] You obviously know NOTHING about anything. [13:46] rudeboy: tried relaunching Finder, nothing works. [13:46] Tell that to my accountant [13:46] safe boot? [13:46] Just reboot it [13:46] reboot it holding down the shift key [13:46] I'm going to reboot it, but I need my apps to close down first. [13:46] If my roommate was around I would ask him as he fixes macs for a living. [13:46] I'm well aware of all the tricks to make it work. [13:47] okay then... [13:47] * wxproof has joined #nonprophets [13:47] I fix computers for a living, and have been working with macs for well over 4 years. I just don't want to miss the show so I hate to reboot. [13:47] Beem the Mac Apple becon into the Sky, and the Mac Experts from the local iStore will come in the MacMobile [13:47] Nope, it sounds fine. [13:49] Congratulations all for going another two weeks rapture free! That's quite a streak we're on now. Just remember this could always be our last NP... [13:49] lol [13:49] Can you hear me? HELLOOOOO [13:49] They sound crisp on the stream [13:49] I can hear you fine [13:49] There we go. [13:49] Thats odd I can hear them fine. [13:49] Though I also hear music. [13:50] Sanguines: what was your relay again? [13:50] add 2 or 3 after nonprophets [13:50] http://nonprophets2.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls [13:50] gotdns? [13:50] http://nonprophets3.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls [13:50] ah, yeah [13:50] * Insto has joined #nonprophets [13:50] New mIRC sorta sucks with the scroll-up feature [13:51] brb [13:51] If you type a multi-line text, it won't go above that point [13:51] Ew, mirc [13:51] hello [13:51] Well I use mIRC with ZNC - which I helped develop [13:51] hi all [13:51] mIRC is just comfortable ;) [13:52] Hey Insto [13:52] I used it for a period of two weeks when it came out and didn't like it then.. Haven't touched it since [13:52] when it came out? mirc? [13:52] Only programs I've ever used was pirch & mirc [13:52] Like 94-95 I think [13:52] mirc came out a loooong time ago [13:53] heh [13:53] I use pidgin, yay. [13:53] (c)1995 - [13:53] 1995, i was 14 [13:53] * Razakel has joined #nonprophets [13:54] How many listeners can the relay handle, Sang..? [13:54] We are rockin' now, dammit. [13:55] no kidding [13:55] I can handle any user count [13:55] \m/ [13:55] Surely not :P [13:55] That sounds like a challenge, S. :) [13:55] There's at least a theoretical limit to the backbone you're on. :P [13:55] I host a show that has over 10,000 live users [13:55] What show..? [13:55] Of course there is, .. but you guys aren't touching that - no offense [13:55] Still, you can't host a zetta of users. ;) [13:56] Of course we aren't :) [13:56] Yay it sounds like they fixed it. [13:56] Well considering I'm just using under-used bandwidth, and could probably get 10,000 within that no problem.. I'd say good enough ;) [13:56] Yay fixed things. [13:56] sounds nice, btw [13:56] But if it were an issue w/money, for sure [13:56] However many users.. I'd just go with another type of service provider for that [13:57] Music just got quieter. [13:57] I got direct access to 10Gbts and possibly more if I request it. [13:57] Still, it's a work connection. <.< [13:57] lol, pissing contest? [13:57] Surely ;) [13:57] Epeen and all. [13:57] Wasn't trying to make it a pissing contest though. [13:57] You don't wanna go there ;) [13:58] No, I don't. It serves no purpose :) [13:58] But for entertainment purposes, I have 13 dedicated servers.. 4 of which are gigabit [13:58] I hacked into the Pentagon's WOPR system. [13:58] I hacked that GIBSON [13:58] * Sanguines > you [13:58] THAT's how 1337 I am [13:58] I hacked THE WORLD [13:58] damnit [13:58] i hacked the intertubes [13:58] Had to go there.. [13:58] I hacked the known universe. [13:58] I win [13:58] all of them [13:58] I'm so leet I'm leeter than leet. [13:58] Wait.. [13:58] I hacked the unknown universe [13:58] I hacked GOD [13:59] I clogged your tubes - I drink your milkshake. [13:59] God doens't exist. :P [13:59] the ALPHA and the OMEGA [13:59] So you hacked nothing. :D [13:59] I used GOD as my AOL dialup password bitches [13:59] but you cant tell us how can you zeus? [13:59] I hacked existance. [13:59] Deb loses. :D [13:59] Actually.. it was literally 'godlike', lol [13:59] There is a slight buzz, though I can deal with it. [13:59] I've never hacked anything, .. but I've used already discovered exploits in vulnerable system, to gain root.. download the passwd, bruteforce that [13:59] Christian: who cares, in a pising contest between geeks you can't really lose anymore than the winner. :P [13:59] Patch the exploit used to penetrate [13:59] Then trade off those accounts for more shells to exploit ;) [14:00] I usually work to fix holes, not exploit them. [14:00] * WoodrowWoodpecker has joined #nonprophets [14:00] * Scott has joined #nonprophets [14:00] * nick_van has joined #nonprophets [14:00] Before you were 18? =P [14:00] * Sparrowhawk cowers in shame... [14:00] So who won..? Not it! [14:00] Mmh. I can hear a phone data connection on your stream, Sanguines. [14:00] Hehe, my stream? =P [14:00] Newblet here. Cast forth yon cottage cheese. [14:00] Not saying it's you, just saying it's there and I don't know what's causing it. [14:01] I work with ASSholes... is it anything like that? :) [14:01] Theres a buzz that I hear on the main stream. [14:01] Well relaying is merely taking data from a source, and redistributing it [14:01] So it's not just me. [14:01] That data will not be interfered with my that process [14:01] is there a stream up yet? [14:01] Excluding data-drop or buffering [14:01] Yes [14:01] i'm too late [14:01] nothing on it right now i dont think.... [14:01] There are relays. [14:01] They are fixing [14:01] There's phone noise. :P [14:02] http://nonprophets2.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls [14:02] in? [14:02] Sanguines add 2 or 3 after nonprophets [14:02] Sanguines http://nonprophets2.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls [14:02] debdrup gotdns? [14:02] Sanguines http://nonprophets3.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls [14:02] http://nonprophets3.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls [14:02] http://nonprophets2.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls [14:02] lol [14:02] zomg url spam [14:02] Not very entertaining phone noise, but there's something there. [14:02] Would just call it signal interference [14:02] I think the noise has a good beat. [14:02] * Rizen has joined #nonprophets [14:02] v. danceable [14:02] I can't hear any beat [14:02] Sanguines: just reminds me of the noise you get if you're using a data connection over a phone. [14:03] You have to expand your mind, man. [14:03] EEK [14:03] Noise squeaks. [14:03] Sounds like a plane at the gate to me. [14:03] yeah... [14:03] something like that [14:03] If I were to argue that it sounds like god, could anyone disprove me? :P [14:03] there's nothing there. done. [14:04] Rizen?? [14:04] yeah? [14:04] Ok...I think all the technical problems are fixed. Everyone is here...we'll be calling Guy and starting the show shortly [14:04] :] Nice [14:04] woohoo! [14:04] cool [14:04] Sanguines: I sent the mail anyhow now. ;) [14:04] Rizen, are you an IRCop? [14:04] /were [14:04] If our Non-Prophets doesn't get here in 30 min or less is it free..? [14:04] If the show doesn't start in thirty minutes or less we get to listen for free right? [14:04] I think I may have known you in a former life ;) [14:05] lol [14:05] damnit [14:05] ... [14:05] w00t - I win, wx. :) [14:05] wxproof, 10 minutes or free [14:05] good job guys [14:05] wow [14:05] Christian: it's already free. :P [14:05] Christianity is free? w00t [14:05] i dont think so as i dont know waht an IRCop is [14:05] Hah [14:05] lol =P [14:05] some old-person irc term from the 90s [14:05] Blah! [14:05] No - just the Christians. [14:05] Ya, definitely not then. I used to be an IRCop on an IRC network called Undernet - and a fellow IRCop was Rizen =P [14:05] I hear Test 1-2-3 on stream 3 [14:05] sounds ok to me, Matt [14:05] err, maybe it was Rizor [14:06] lol [14:06] Blaah youself. [14:06] hah [14:06] stream 2 is ok [14:06] XD [14:06] Yes, its loud ;p [14:06] Definitely still some interference [14:06] y, i hear some 60 Hz interference [14:06] Yeah, there's some interference alright. [14:06] you can tell its 60hz? [14:06] No, he's guessing. [14:06] You can't?? [14:06] lol yeah where are you pulling 60hz from? [14:06] It's not 60hz :P [14:06] ;) [14:06] i wish i could measure herz with my ears [14:07] from experience sounds like powerline interference therefore 60 Hz [14:07] hertz [14:07] It would be much lower I would think if it were 60 [14:07] You sure? [14:07] ah, i see [14:07] Regardless, its there. [14:07] Yup...I still haven't fixed that problem. [14:07] it is indeed...but i dont think its that annoying. [14:07] WoodrowWoodpecker: eh. Sounds just as easily as a data connection on European GSM/GPRS networks. [14:07] It's definitely 60hz [14:07] But it's happening...it should be less clear when we start [14:07] err [14:07] Yeah, I think its the silence that makes it noticed [14:07] Actually I'm not sure, my EQ is funky [14:07] Sweet [14:08] 60hz.. 220.. 221... whatever it takes. [14:08] Funky eqs are awesome. [14:08] Wait, funky in a good or a bad way? [14:08] * grrrrraeme has joined #nonprophets [14:08] Funky in a good way would be with blinking lights and stuff. :P [14:08] I turned my EQ to auto, and it cleared up quite nicely [14:08] Possibly some dancing. [14:17] test [14:17] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat Oct 04 14:17:36 2008 Session Start: Sat Oct 04 14:17:43 2008 Session Ident: #nonprophets [14:17] * Now talking in #nonprophets [14:17] * Topic is 'The Non-Prophets are LIVE at http://www.nonprophetsradio.com. Today's guest - Guy P. Harrison!' [14:17] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Oct 04 13:41:05 [14:17] http://nonprophets3.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls (Americas) --or-- http://nonprophets2.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls (Europe) [14:17] wb [14:17] * ChanServ sets mode: +qo Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [14:18] thane! =P [14:18] Thane who? [14:20] michigan is akin to hell so i agree [14:21] I thought Wisconsin was hell, and Michigan the purgatory? [14:21] I've been meaning to buy Guys book, but it's not in the local book store which annoys me. [14:22] God of patience.. Cute [14:22] liberry? [14:22] Checked it, they don't carry many English books. [14:22] wisconsin has cheese. can't be hell. [14:22] http://www.amazon.com/Reasons-People-Give-Believing-God/dp/1591025672/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223148154&sr=8-1 [14:22] ah.... maybe I was thinking of Ohio [14:22] Surely cheese and hell are not reconsilable. [14:23] Christian: yeah, but ordering it from Amazon takes forever to get to Denmark.. 30 days last time. [14:23] Not as long as it takes to buy it in a store that doesn't have it. :P [14:23] well order is now and it will get there sooner [14:23] Christian: but the local bookstore will have it in a fortnight, they said so. :P [14:24] That's what they SAY but you know how bookstore people in Denmark are. [14:24] * Targ has quit IRC (Targ) [14:24] danish [14:24] No thanks. [14:24] Yes, they're Danish. [14:25] stands to reason [14:25] indeed [14:25] And according to statistics they're around 60% atheist. :P [14:25] OBVIOUS! [14:25] I was surprised at that number. [14:25] a = aish [14:25] therefore denmark is dan [14:25] huzzah [14:26] dana actually [14:26] Wait, what? [14:26] * Blueblur has quit IRC (Blueblur) [14:26] no idea :( [14:26] as the conversation descends into nonsequitor ... time for a beer! [14:26] Yay beer [14:26] beer is godly [14:27] mickey's big mouth today, yummy [14:27] with the stupid puzzle in the cap [14:27] I missed half the lines because I was laughing so hard. [14:28] did you see it at the tiv [14:28] maher is an anti-vaccine guy [14:28] Frontenac - it's not at the Tiv. Moolah, AMC 16 and Frontenac. [14:28] and pro accupuncture [14:28] thanks [14:28] Yeah and his medical thing is scary. [14:28] well, he can't see germs... [14:28] big-pharma [14:28] ;) [14:28] big pharma [14:28] noooooooooo!!!!! [14:29] he's good at both giving needles and taking them? [14:29] fallacy of the middle ground [14:30] i agree with guy too [14:30] very much so [14:30] agnosticism is a logical abortion? [14:30] I have a mancrush on Guy. :P [14:30] well, as Matt has said before, agnosticism and atheist aren't mutally exclusive [14:30] *atheism [14:31] i like the definition matt uses: if you do not answer "yes" to the question "do you believe in god?" you are an atheist. period. [14:31] me too [14:32] *mutually [14:33] hitchens is a sweater. im shocked how old he is. [14:33] I saw Hitchens debate D'Souza a few weeks ago and was very disappointed. [14:34] I watched that debate last night [14:34] I love listening to Hitchens, but his debate tactics kinda suck. [14:34] He doesn't counter point very well. [14:34] agreed [14:34] I mean D'Souza started the debate with Pascal's Wager and Hitchens didn't even address it until the last sentence of the debate and not even well. [14:34] true [14:34] but when the point is ridiculous...i mean [14:34] From an outside observer, he can easily see as ducking questions or not answering stuff well. [14:34] oh my gosh, i would have jumped all over pascal's wager [14:35] Yeah, but when you're in a symphony hall full of Christian's you gotta jump on that shit. [14:35] *Christians [14:35] i would have ripped pascal's wager apart [14:35] ah well [14:35] Very first point of business is to destroy that one. [14:35] i guess it depends what the debate was over...existence of god or whether or not religion is good or bad? [14:36] I just bought Guy's book on Amazon - I'm going to drop it off with my mom. :) [14:36] It was on Is Believing in God Good. [14:36] ah... [14:36] hmm, dont even see how pascal's wager has any bearing on that. [14:36] So Pascal's Wager says it IS because you are hedging your bet. [14:36] i see... [14:36] It would be GOOD to go to heaven and BAD to go to hell - so just in case. [14:36] or that it's smarter maybe? [14:37] One of the best part of religulous was the jew making devices to skip around the rules on the sabbath. [14:37] a sheet? [14:37] No kidding - I loved that guy. I still don't understand the phone thing. [14:38] I don't either. BUt it just seemed fucking stupid to think you can trick god by not doing specific things even though they realize what the reason behind it was. [14:38] How does stopping a single button from dialing over and over again help you dial..? And isn't pushing a non-button just as 'bad' as pushing an actual button..? Weird fucking people out there. [14:39] Heh yeah [14:39] * Sparrowhawk lost [14:39] its ok, havent read it... [14:39] can't we just agree that pushing things is generally evil? [14:39] Amen. [14:40] I stoned the elevator attendant at the hotel I was in last night. [14:40] Over 10 million gods over the past 1000 years? [14:40] Was that what he said? [14:40] Yeah, but who's counting? [14:41] Apparently he was :P [14:41] yeah, i don't care how many to be honest [14:41] lol [14:41] But it's an interesting point to me.. [14:41] lol.. that alone would dissuade me from writing a book. [14:41] it is interesting...but you dont even need to bring history into it [14:41] just ask a christian if they believe in one of the other gods that people believe in NOW. [14:41] Being an Atheist is tiring - I mean I barely have time in the day to not believe in 10 million invisible friends. [14:41] Sparrowhawk: but they don't. [14:42] Christian: hah :D [14:42] lol [14:42] deb: they don't what? [14:42] clever [14:42] Thank GOD we only have to wage war on one of their holidays - I couldn't stand 10 million wars on Christmas. [14:42] Sparrowhawk: they don't believe in any other god/gods but their own. [14:42] What about Easter? [14:42] yeah, i was just trying to make the good old "youre already an atheist" point [14:43] That's a faulty argument, because they still believe in their own god. [14:43] After we kill Xmas Easter is next. [14:43] Atheism is lack of belief in any god. [14:43] Tell Easter I'm comin' - and hell's coming with me! [14:43] i have a particularly religious friend who ranted about certain atheists critiquing religion, and one of her defenses was many have done good in god's name. so they need god to do good? that's not only wrong, but scary. [14:43] ok, you're right [14:43] god/gods* [14:43]