Session Start: Thu Jul 24 23:39:19 2008 Session Ident: #nonprophets [23:39] * Now talking in #nonprophets [23:39] * atlantis.wikkedwire.com sets mode: +nt [23:39] -> *chanserv* register help [23:40] * ChanServ sets mode: +r [23:40] * ChanServ sets mode: +q Non-Prophets [23:45] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, July 12th, 2007! at 5:00pm eastern on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes. We're starting two hours late! [23:45] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, July 12th, 2007! at 5:00pm eastern on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes. We're starting two hours late!' [23:45] * Disconnected Session Close: Thu Jul 24 23:45:25 2008 Session Start: Sat Jul 26 14:54:16 2008 Session Ident: #nonprophets [14:54] * Now talking in #nonprophets [14:54] * Topic is 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, July 12th, 2007! at 5:00pm eastern on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes. We're starting two hours late!' [14:54] * Set by Non-Prophets on Thu Jul 24 23:45:22 [14:54] * ChanServ sets mode: +qo Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [14:55] Greetings! I hope everyone got word that we're starting 2 hours late. Sorry...I had to work today and I just got home. We should be live in a little over an hour [14:55] Oh noes, hide the kids, it's one of them godless satan-worshipping atheists! [14:55] I'm at AN [14:55] 6 All Hail The Non-Prophets. May we be touched by their noodle appendages. [14:55] Mostly AFK - setting up [14:55] You have to pay money to touch MY noodly appendage [14:55] Unless you're a hot, young female [14:56] athei satanicolae! [14:57] Comment replies you get on YouTube: you believe a lot of stuff and its all related to athiesm, so don't go saying atheism is just about believing in no god [14:58] But is that other stuff necessary and sufficient? [14:58] i say we gather up some christians and plug them into an array of car batteries and see if they glow with the glow of a thousand jesuses [14:58] like pickles do [14:58] And the liking of kittens [14:59] Diaphanus, I'm not even sure what he was talking about, because it's not like I ever claimed to any other beliefs. 'course, he said... hang on, I'll post the full thing [14:59] I quote: Atheists are not a homogenous group; a logical practical atheist will soon figure out as some have already that since humans have no souls and no particular value, they SHOULD be exterminated as a vermin parasite infestation of earth responsible for the extinction of untold thousands of species. Why should one love their fellow man more than their fellow life forms? [15:00] Those folks just like to construe atheism as a worldview, a counter-Christian, immoral religion [15:00] * wfsk has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008071719]) [15:00] Yep. Praise gebus, let's kill alla atheists. How catholic [15:01] The worst part is, he's Canadian. I'm ashamed to live in the same country as this guy [15:03] Me too, Edward. I'm in Fredericton, NB [15:05] Pretty simple really - a lack of intrinsic, ultimate, transcendent value does not make something valueless. A car has no more intrinsic value than a person (in the sense that they're talking about) - yet WE place value on it...the value differs with the situation and individual. In that same way we place value on our own lives and the lives of others. [15:06] There's no such thing as intrinsic value, really [15:07] Saying that the lack of a soul makes us valueless and that this can be used as a sufficient justification for eradication is moronic and hypocritical. If they own a car, why haven't they carted it off to the dump? It's only going to rust away and eventually become worthless. The answer is simple - because it has use and value to them now. Just like their life and the lives of others. [15:07] I'm not sure why so many theists get hung up on this 'ultimate meaning' crap. It's nonsense [15:08] 'coz of god, probably. It's supposed to be the ultimate meaning, and when you're indoctrinated early enough... [15:08] I never liked that idea of mundane nihilism... nothing is of any worth unless it's from some sort of transcendent... something. [15:08] I'm gonna do a food run, don't start the show without me [15:09] By the way...I'm not sure how many watch AE, but tomorrow's is going to be a bit special. First, I'm planning on wearing a hat. Second, we're going to be hammering 'stupid' atheists the way we hammer 'stupid' theist. Third, one of these (in my opinion) stupid atheists is going to call in, make his case and then ask our listeners to write him with their opinion. [15:10] The "ultimate meaning" thing stymies the wonder of nature and everything else. [15:10] Is it going to be a Jesus hat? [15:10] Yes, I saw that! Is that Matt? [15:10] Yes, this is Matt [15:10] Not a Jesus hat [15:10] And that's all I'll say (it's really not a HUGE deal) :) [15:11] Mr. Dillahunty! Great seeing you [15:11] * Edward sent an email a few days ago. "I'm the guy going over all the past episodes of the TV show. Well, one of them." [15:11] Where? [15:11] My dad's here? [15:12] Hi Matt! [15:12] Just "Matt" please. :) [15:12] Is he? Well, he might learn a few things [15:12] Hiya [15:12] Perhaps he could wear a cheesehead hat. [15:12] Matt, I watch AE, but I need youtube/itunes for it as I'm living in the Netherlands. [15:13] I wish I could watch it live [15:13] BBS [15:14] Hopefully I'll be back before the show starts [15:14] Stream is running - music playing. I see one person already connected so I'll assume it's working [15:16] Only right audio on the stream? [15:17] Should be coming out of both speakers... it is on mine [15:18] I hear it on both speakers [15:20] * eljay has joined #nonprophets [15:21] Is there a show this week? [15:21] Yes [15:21] Starts in about 40 minutes...I had to work today so we shifted it a couple of hours [15:22] OK, cool. I'll be back then [15:22] * rudeboy has joined #nonprophets [15:22] * Dave63_2 has joined #nonprophets [15:22] * rudeboy shakes himself awake [15:23] ah, music, they are testing the stream [15:24] Anything in particular on the agenda for this evening? [15:24] * Sabina has joined #nonprophets [15:25] * ihedenius has joined #nonprophets [15:25] don't know [15:25] I have no idea [15:25] Hello everyone. [15:25] I'm distracted by this bizarre website I just discovered [15:25] Denis does most of the pre-show work. I just set up, show up, talk, and post it when we're done [15:25] I am trying to remember if there are any particular instances of religious nuttery in the UK this last couple of weeks... [15:25] who's gonna be the next special guet? [15:25] s^ [15:25] Is that you, Russell ? [15:25] religious nuttery should be a daily event [15:25] There's the on-going skirt-wringing by the church of england about women bishops and gay clergy... [15:26] <--Matt [15:26] OH! hello Matt!!! Mwah ! [15:26] rudeboy: what site? [15:26] And tons of Muslim-nuttery [15:26] Hiya :) [15:26] allow me to link you. These guys have discovered a new anarchist hobby [15:26] The depth and scaryness of the Muslim nuttery nevere ceases to amaze (and terrify) me. [15:26] Matt, as oftoday I am all caught up on listening to all the N-P podcasts :D [15:26] http://wrybread.com/hobo/ [15:26] * Dave63 has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [15:27] find yourself some abandoned rails, build a little rail go cart and off ya go! [15:27] and of course, it is even more fun when those abandoned rails are in the wine country of CA [15:27] mind you, he is tresspassing on "someone's" abandoned property, but still [15:28] Sabina: Great! Now you can join the others who harrass me because they don't want to wait 2 weeks for a new show after their masochistic nature lead them to listen to many years of content in a week or two. :) [15:28] TRue dat, matt! [15:28] well, I might not get on your backs because I discovered via NP that I can listen to the Skeptics Guide to the Univ. podcasts,too. [15:28] Which is why we shifted today's show 2 hours, instead of postponing. I was afraid to read the whine-mail. :) [15:28] II have a lot of catch up there to do ..... [15:29] wine? I'll drink to that [15:29] I've been listening to an audio-book version of the bible. Thought I should listen to the whole thing, just so I can call out the average nutjobs who didn't bother to, if for no other reason. It's been doing my head in. King1/2 and Chronicals 1/2 are just mind numbing. [15:29] I am afraid to actually read the bible.. but I guess I should. [15:29] Skeptics' guide is awesome. [15:29] I don't even own a bible. I do have a Book of Mormon though :P [15:30] I keep meaning to steal a Gideon's when next in a hotel room........ [15:30] Well, there are plenty of electronic copies around for free download. [15:30] I tried to read my old bible. My brain exploded [15:30] that is true. but I would like to have a copy in my paws. [15:30] from boredom [15:30] Stream is still up - but the music is off. [15:30] I have supposed that I should, but to be honest, so far it's been a huge waste of time. [15:31] It'll be fairly quiet (apart from mic checks) while we get situated. [15:31] crank it up guys, clock's running, heh heh heh [15:31] <--AFK [15:31] I'd down a Tecate or two today, but as I am feeling less than normal, I shall refrain [15:31] So far it's been a strange mixture of extreme boredom (one more fucking begat and I will go into a fit), and revulsion. So much encouragement of tribalism and genocide. It's sad. [15:32] "I begat where I fucking left off" [15:32] before the era of bookmarks [15:32] * eljay spasms. [15:32] I told you. [15:32] yeah [15:33] I wanted to turn my old bible into a presto log, just never could figure out how to do it [15:33] I have to say that I am actively looking forward to the new testament. If the OT so far is anything to go by, I have a whole lot lists to get through before I get to any sort of narritive. [15:33] If i drink enough, I list too [15:34] I guess psalms and proverbs promise non lists... [15:34] I guess I'll find out after however many hours more bullshit it takes to get to them. [15:34] When I drove away from the Chinese restaurant last night, I noticed that my lights dim som. [15:34] I downloaded an mp3 audio bible, and used a program called wsola to speed up the reading... [15:35] * Cafeeine has joined #nonprophets [15:35] wsola speeds it up without changing the pitch, so it doesn't sound like mickey mouse. [15:35] * rudeboy wonders where on the ratings board, that old joke rests [15:35] rudeboy: that is a /terrible/ joke. I like it. [15:35] Now if THAT was in the bible, it would be a whole lot more interesting. [15:35] heh they weren't that humorous [15:36] I'd say that if you had a rating system from 0 to 10, you'd need another axis for that joke. [15:36] yeah, the "z" axis [15:36] Hello folks, is the show on? [15:36] It does seem to be a hallmark of the devout - total lack of a sense of humour. [15:36] Cafeeine: 30 mins I think. [15:36] Some delay [15:36] It's so hot, farmers are feeding the chickens ice to keep them from laying hard boiled eggs [15:36] OK, Im terrible with timezones and Im from across the drink [15:37] It's so hot, the water buffalo at the zoo are evaporating [15:37] rudeboy: I don't even classify that as a joke. [15:37] It's so hot, birds are using pot holders to pick up the worms [15:37] how about this: what's orange and sounds like a parrot? [15:37] I'll accept those as jokes, Rudie ...;) [15:37] ah [15:37] 5 [15:37] hm orange parrot [15:37] 4 [15:37] 3 [15:37] 2 [15:37] i give up [15:37] 1 get ready. [15:38] a carrot. [15:38] boom boom. [15:38] of course, you might get a beat-down for those jokes around these parts.... [15:38] hah! [15:38] that is kinda funny [15:38] What do you call a smelly fairy? [15:38] you need instantrimshot.com to add to that joke [15:38] A stinky pixie ? [15:38] Stinkerbell. [15:38] close. [15:38] *** groans **** [15:38] hehe [15:38] what do you get when you cross and elephant with a jar of peanutbutter? [15:38] What type of flooring do dinosaurs install in their homes ? [15:38] Why I said that the devout have no sense of humour... we are not making a good case that atheists are any better! [15:39] lol [15:39] Answer: Rep-tiles. [15:39] ummm, I give up. [15:39] ohhhh [15:39] That reminds me of another dinosaud joke... [15:39] let's hear it. [15:39] a jar of peanutbutter with a very long memopry [15:39] What does a dinosaur on a beach get for christmas? [15:39] *snort* [15:39] or an elephant that sticks to tthe roof of your mouth [15:39] sandyclaws [15:39] What, eljay? [15:40] T minus 20 minutes to launch and counting. All systems go. [15:40] NO!!! that's a CAT joke not a dino joke. [15:40] haha, maybe [15:40] do you like lolcatz? [15:40] I LOVE lolcatz [15:40] lolcatz rules :D [15:41] want to hear my favorite joke for July ? [15:41] lolcatz and failblog are nice companions. [15:41] Did I miss it? [15:41] Edward: no, another 25 mins... bit of a delay [15:42] nope, they start in about 14 minutes [15:42] er 20 [15:42] or whatever [15:42] how about on the hour [15:42] Yay. Take that, foodlessness! Your feeble powers cannot make me miss the show! [15:42] oops! mail -- BRB [15:42] it works [15:43] It's aliiiive! [15:43] Methinks the Non Prophets must needs to synchronize thine timepieces...;) [15:43] i just got mic checks, am i caught up? [15:43] yeah, thats it [15:44] just Matt checking the mic [15:44] good, last time i was about 5 minutes behind, it was sad [15:44] ..and he called us Bitches. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy ..... [15:44] You cannot defeat me with your slender arms. [15:45] * eljay returns from emptying the internal beer pouch (bladder) [15:45] What would happen if Satan lost his hair? [15:45] There would be hell toupee. [15:45] ooooooooo [15:46] good one [15:46] nice [15:46] ** curtsies** [15:46] *groan* that's good. [15:46] That's almost worthy of the Freedom From Religion Foundation podcast. [15:46] almost. [15:46] Dan Barker comes out with some real clangers. [15:46] I can't help liking the guy. [15:46] only he calls em barkers [15:47] He has a strange charisma which appeals to me. I guess that's a preacher (or ex-preacher) skill. [15:47] FFRF has podcasts, too ?? [15:47] yep [15:47] you should give the url [15:47] yeah, they have a weekly radio show which is also available as a podcast. [15:47] I hae the FFRF url in my favorites. [15:47] and they are free [15:47] http://ffrf.org/radio/ [15:48] * gmp has joined #nonprophets [15:48] Oh, GOody! [15:49] Thanx, LJ [15:49] It's a bit parochial in a strange way, but I enjoy iy anyhow. [15:49] Well, it seems parochial to me because it's US centric, and I live in the UK. [15:49] yw Sabina. :) [15:49] the US needs it more [15:50] that's true. [15:50] well, you know it's here, undere the surface too. [15:50] test ... hello... [15:50] yeah, but you can say its under the surface [15:50] and we don't have constitutional protection like you do (despite the errosion of that in recent years). [15:50] * OJ has joined #nonprophets [15:50] I mean, the monarch is the offical head of state and "protector of the faith". [15:50] take 2 [15:51] I guess she's been doing a lousy job, given the really low rates of church attendance. [15:51] heh [15:51] is the stream silent right now? [15:51] you should send her here then [15:51] well, at least you got her to start paying her taxes. [15:51] If the queen's doing a poor job protecting the faith I vote we give her a medal [15:51] Well there is something that the lack of competition leading to relative apathy [15:51] stream is silent, but still running [15:51] kdomn37: I'd like that. :) [15:51] ok, thanks rude. [15:52] Same thing happening in Greece, though at a lesser level [15:52] testing [15:52] I don't have anything against the royals as people (hell, if I had the chance, I'd milk the system for every last penny I could), but the institution in corrupt and should be dismantled. [15:52] t hey are ananchronisms. [15:52] *anachronisms [15:52] Cafeeine: you are from Greece? [15:52] do they have any real power anymore? [15:52] Yes [15:53] * eljay consults a dictionary [15:53] * I make a mean moussaka. [15:53] What can I do if I don't understand what the dictionary says? [15:53] 7 minutes to show start [15:53] LJ, you ditch the dictionary [15:53] But you can put the greek dialog books away, my english is fine ;) [15:53] Read a thesaurus [15:54] Cafeeine: nice! I went to Rhodes a few years ago. It was a little barren, but the people were lovely. [15:54] I hear there are terrible fires there now. :( [15:54] kdomn37: it's unclear. officially yes, in practise no. [15:54] Is Greece Burning ? [15:54] Yes, Rhodes is a lovely island. And we;ve had some difficult ones yes [15:54] the island of Rhodes apparently has lots of fires. [15:55] * outercow has joined #nonprophets [15:55] * eljay finds out what cing or error in the order of time; an error in chronology by which events are misplaced in regard to each other, esp. one by which an event is placed too early; falsification of chronological [15:56] eek [15:56] bad copy paste [15:56] * eljay find out what anachronism means. [15:56] sorry about that. [15:56] OH ! [15:56] Umm, yes. they are a weird remnant of the past I guess. [15:56] sorry. I used one of my $2.00 words . ;) [15:56] hehe [15:56] 1.98 after inflation [15:57] $2.00 that's worth about GBP 0.13? [15:57] An anachronismwould be like... Frodo using an iPod. [15:57] something like that, yes ! [15:57] You know, one of the great thing about my language is that I can understand words like anachronism without ever having seen it [15:57] hehe [15:57] Wonder how many Dashboard Confessional songs would be on Frodo's iPod [15:57] I'm coming to the states later in the year (California and las Vegas:) so it's good for me. [15:57] * Zadius has joined #nonprophets [15:57] Yes, Cafeeine.. and thank you for letting us steal many of your words and use them in our language . ;) [15:57] Or, better yet, in one of the bible movie classics, Ben Hur, I think, one of the character actors forgot to take off his wirstwatch. It is plainly visible in two shots [15:58] really, rudeboy? I missed that one. [15:58] Hey Cafeeine [15:58] Please, keep doing it. Its makes my job easier (Im a translator) [15:58] Hey Zadius [15:58] lol@rudeboy [15:58] * Vicky has quit IRC (Vicky) [15:58] that's funny! [15:58] didn't a few people die in the filming of Ben Hur? [15:58] And a fine job you are doing, cafeeine. [15:58] that's not funny. [15:58] die for real? I didn't know that either. [15:58] or the super panoramic shot of "How the West Was Won" [15:58] is the stream still silent? [15:59] I was an extra in Greatest Game Ever Played, in a shady bar scene with dock workers, off-duty navy soldiers, prostitutes, and such. One guy had his gold Rolex on [15:59] yup [15:59] silent for me, yes [15:59] * Vicky has joined #nonprophets [15:59] science works [15:59] A long string of conastoga wagons heading West, and in the sky overhead, a jet contrail [15:59] ok, just so I know. [15:59] maybe they aredoing today's podcast in sign language ? [15:59] anytime now [15:59] rudeboy: that contrail could have been... ummm... and ionisation trail from a meteorite [16:00] Today's Non-Prophets is brought to you by the Society for the Hearing Unimpaired. [16:00] nope, jet [16:00] I wonder why they didn;t retouch the film & edit that contrail out ... [16:00] maybe it was a UFO? they've been visiting since pre-history. [16:00] By the fish society for the unwed Herring Impaired [16:00] heh [16:00] according to some anyhow. [16:00] Actually, I think its started now on the telepathic network, put on your foil hats to improve reception [16:00] my friend met a guy who thought those contrails were angels, there were a couple believing it [16:00] yikes [16:00] Big metal angels [16:01] ** palm hit forehead... [16:01] cloluds is clouds [16:01] kdomn37: good grief. [16:01] high enough, they're ice [16:01] Everyone is here...close to starting [16:01] boeing 747 shaped angels. [16:01] yaa [16:01] Or DC8s if you ask scientologists [16:01] yes. except without jet engines. [16:01] Non-Prophets: could you put some noise in the stream? I can't tell if it's working or not my end. [16:01] or aliens according to scientologists [16:01] * Aaron has quit IRC (Aaron) [16:01] ah, ya beat me [16:02] dc8s were jets? [16:02] * Larch has joined #nonprophets [16:02] * Larch is now known as Besser [16:02] a dc8 is a type of airliner, yes [16:02] far out [16:02] Scientologists think that the aliens that Xenu brought here to blow up were carried on DC8-looking space ships with rocket engines instead of jets [16:02] "The Douglas DC-8 is a four-engined jet airliner, manufactured from 1958 to 1972." [16:02] but were they jets ? I know DC 3's were not because I've been on one before. [16:02] Wikipedia ftw. [16:02] * eljay just found a good image of a dc8. holy pollution batman! http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices/gallery/images/commercial/dc8-05.jpg [16:02] mic check [16:02] yeah, I flew in 9s during my college days [16:03] Who's this Mike people keep checking out? [16:03] working. thanks Non-Prophets :) [16:03] Mike check? [16:03] type [16:03] Matt check? [16:03] shit [16:03] peanut [16:03] peanut [16:03] type [16:03] Penis [16:03] MIke check! Anyone seen mike? [16:03] peanut! [16:03] penut [16:03] Peanut [16:03] peanut [16:03] lolz [16:03] something [16:03] peee nut? [16:03] Diaphanus: you have a problem [16:03] pissant [16:03] peanut butter. [16:03] i am allergic to peanuts :-( [16:03] * NeutronJack has joined #nonprophets [16:03] * Dave63 has joined #nonprophets [16:03] NJ [16:03] More for me [16:03] Cafeeine - you were late with the 'Peanut' now we have to do it all over.. :( [16:03] !! [16:03] oj are you allergic to penis? [16:03] Ruuuuuuuuuuuuudeboy! [16:03] PROBLEMS [16:03] I has them [16:04] welcome to the LATE SHOW of DA NON PROPHETS [16:04] Matt, don't say the word before you say it next time! [16:04] crank up the victrola boys [16:04] With your host, Matt Dillahunty, filling in for this Mike person [16:04] Did anyone check for Mike?? [16:04] or Mister "Check" whoeever he is [16:04] From the Dillahunty International Studio .... [16:04] I sent mike a check. [16:04] echo 419? echo 419? [16:04] Sorry, sorry. I just had a really bad thing go on, so I need lolz [16:04] in warbly MP3 16 bit audio [16:04] Ooo.. bad idea, Sabina. [16:05] Mike? [16:05] Check! [16:05] marco [16:05] You need to hit your knees and accept gebus in your life, Diaphanus [16:05] lol [16:05] mmm, oh? [16:05] Beavis? [16:05] * rudeboy snickers like Beavis [16:05] hotrod [16:05] Accept Beavis into my life? [16:05] do... there is no try. [16:05] I am channeling my internal Veavis [16:06] er [16:06] How' [16:06] * MattEdd has joined #nonprophets [16:06] do or do not, I should say, urm? [16:06] d I miss the "b" key [16:06] wtf [16:06] Veavis and Vutthead [16:06] yeah [16:06] MUSIC [16:06] here we go [16:06] w00t [16:06] I hears it [16:06] funky [16:06] Yay! [16:06] ßevis and ßutthead [16:06] Someone oil that guitar [16:06] it's squeaking [16:07] this makes me feel funny [16:07] Keep your strange fetishes away from me, rudeboy [16:07] I wan't slinging them your way [16:07] and that was a fret-ish [16:07] guitar [16:07] fret [16:07] But what about Mike? [16:07] Interesting choice of music [16:07] feetish [16:07] ..... [16:07]