Session Start: Sat May 05 11:12:02 2007 Session Ident: #nonprophets [11:12] * Now talking in #nonprophets [11:12] * Topic is 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, May 5th, 2007! at 3:00pm eastern (19:00 UTC) on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes.' [11:12] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Apr 21 15:33:35 [11:12] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [11:12] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! [11:12] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! (Non-Prophets)' [11:12] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, May 19th, 2007! at 3:00pm eastern (19:00 UTC) on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes. [11:12] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, May 19th, 2007! at 3:00pm eastern (19:00 UTC) on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes. (Non-Prophets)' [11:12] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! [11:12] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! (Non-Prophets)' [11:13] /msg chanserv topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC). With special guest, Dr. Victor J. Stenger! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information [11:13] bah [11:14] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC). With special guest, Dr. Victor J. Stenger! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! [11:14] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC). With special guest, Dr. Victor J. Stenger! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! (Non-Prophets)' [11:34] bah? [11:34] 2 1/2 hours till podcast, right? [11:42] yes...and I'm gonna be mostly AFK til then. [11:48] Ok, Me as well (except for the part where I'll be trying franctically to connect) [12:36] Hmm... I know it's much too early to connect, but I'm getting a question for a name/pw. Is this because it hasn't opened yet, or do I need to know some secret? [12:43] The stream isn't running right now - but how are you connecting? [12:44] Clicking on http://nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls on the homepage [12:45] This then gives me a question for name/pw. Probably because it hasn't opened then. [12:45] Ok, let me get the stream running and we can try again [12:45] Btw, you're Matt? I've become quite a fan of the atheist exp/non prophets over the last couple of months :-) [12:46] Yup, I'm Matt :) [12:46] Ok, the stream is running... try again [12:46] Wow, cool man :-) [12:46] Got it! [12:46] Cool beans. You shouldn't have any problems then, when we go live [12:46] Hearing you live in the Netherlands [12:47] Great! I'll have to mark that on the map [12:47] I bought a big wall-sized map of the world so I could mark where we had listeners. [12:47] Btw, it's actually our liberation day today, so like, thanks ;-) [12:48] (liberation day from the Nazi's, 5th may 1944) [12:49] * Samuel has joined #nonprophets [12:49] Howdy [12:49] Hi! [12:49] :D [12:50] Matt has opened the stream, there's some music playing on it now [13:03] im tuned' [13:03] anyone here about that evangelical who challenged 2 athesits to a debate about god? [13:04] Nope [13:04] he says he has scientific evidence of god [13:04] right... [13:04] haha [13:05] that's what I said. [13:06] I did hear Kirk Cameron would be debating the Blasphemy Challenge guys soonish [13:06] it could be that [13:07] but the headline read evangelical debates atheists [13:07] and the lower line said he has evidence [13:07] Well, Kirk and some other guy did give us the banana evidence for god [13:08] yeah. I was really blown away by that one. [13:08] After all, we cannot dispute that (that THEY thought it was evidence) [13:09] yeh [13:09] what time is this going to start [13:10] 19:00 UMT [13:10] That's in 50 minutes [13:10] Wouldn't know what time that was in Calefornia (that [13:11] that's where you're from right? [13:11] No [13:11] East coast Canada [13:11] 19:00 umt Is 4pm for me. [13:11] Oh, Samuel (James2k@wikkedwire-951D1F33.eastlink.ca <- misread that as calefornia [13:11] haha [13:11] I'm from the Netherlands btw [13:12] Oh thats cool [13:12] I guess I should have known better ;-) [13:12] is holand very religious? [13:12] Just thought I'd chime in --- the UMT time issue didn't really resolve anything - because it doesn't take into account daylight savings time [13:13] ok [13:13] Also, the debate you were talking about is today...but it'll air next Wednesday (9th). [13:13] Not at all I'd say. We do have some political parties that are religious though [13:13] Ah, cool [13:13] Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron (who didn't respond to my requests for a debate) will be debating the RRS folks. The RRS folks will probably be on the shows in the near future [13:14] Yeah, UMT not following daylight savings is to be expected (they use it on the southern hemisphere as well), but it doesn't make it easier [13:14] Awesome. [13:15] I think the RRS are a little to militant. [13:15] But it should make for a fun afternoon. [13:15] Cool :-) Non-prophets will continue with Jeff Dee and Russell Glasser missing for some while..? Have you found replacements? [13:17] I'm working on finding a replacement. We'd like to have 3 voices. 4 was, on some occasions, too much. 2 is too few. [13:17] Is it possible for you to set up some sort of hook up, to allow people to co-host from elsewhere? [13:17] I'm going to try to get a replacement quickly, so that Denis and I won't have to do the show on the 19th alone [13:18] Not possible right now...but that's something else we're working on [13:18] googletalk perhaps? calling intercontinental is a bit expensive ;-) [13:18] I'd like to have guests phone in [13:20] Ill be back in 40 minutes. [13:22] * KaylaKaze has joined #nonprophets [13:22] * Aerik has joined #nonprophets [13:25] * Omorpheus has joined #nonprophets [13:31] * KaylaKaze has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [13:33] 30 minutes to go :-) [13:34] * KaylaKaze has joined #nonprophets [13:35] 25 minutes to go :D [13:37] * rudeboy has joined #nonprophets [13:37] * rudeboy yawns, stretches, and shatters most of the bones in his aging body [13:38] good morning/afternoon/evening all [13:39] Good evening/morning/afternoon/sometiime :-D [13:40] wow. nice white teeth there. you must have a great dentist [13:40] 8) [13:40] Hi all. We're waiting on our guest...I'l be doing mic checks and stuff in a while. We may not be starting on time, but I'll give you a 'heads up' [13:40] head's up? my toilet must be rising.... [13:41] apply directl to the forehead. apply directly to the forehead, apply directly to the forehead [13:41] friggin television ads [13:42] * wwfsmd has joined #nonprophets [13:42] There's a joke about that on the current You Don't Know Jack [13:43] Morning progressive talk show host, Stephanie Miller, has been using it too [13:43] She fronts the line with a bushism [13:43] or which ever ep it was I played a couple days ago [13:43] Spetember the eleventh, apply directly to the forehead [13:44] FOr those of you who listen to progressive talk, that is [13:44] ah, it was ep 3 I played, I think [13:44] http://www.stephaniemiller.com/ [13:46] Did the music stop btw? I'm listening to a quiet stream [13:47] Yeah, that's better ;-) [13:47] Stephanie Miller's show isn't uploaded to usenet :-( [13:47] Ah, well [13:47] Sounds ok, but your mike... it's now ok [13:47] she's on NOVA-M radio [13:48] That's good. [13:48] http://www.novamradio.com/ [13:48] I suppose I could set up Replay AV to record the show... [13:49] I know Nova M. I used to listen to Mike Malloy. Still do sometimes, but he upsets me sometimes by being so soft on religion [13:49] They had her on for 3 days in Don Imus's spot on MSNBC early this week [13:49] * zippyapparition has joined #nonprophets [13:49] test 12 heard ;-) [13:49] Yeah, Malloy, for all his ranting tried very hard to be fair, and sometimes seems to be fence sitting [13:50] He's testing 1-1 [13:50] testing 1-2* [13:50] testing, check, check, syphalis, syphalis. [13:50] Still, his show is sometimes great [13:51] ah, buzz [13:51] yeah [13:51] 4 fuzz now [13:51] good old 60 cycle hum [13:51] you have that thing near a florescnet light? or some motorized device? [13:51] 4 any new equipment in the studio? [13:51] check the connector for a loose wire [13:52] lol [13:52] 4 what the F [13:52] Somehow I doubt it's an RCA 77BX [13:52] Ok...here's the deal [13:53] GUYS -- there is a buzz in that mike [13:53] ah [13:53] Yes, there's some new equipment [13:53] gone now [13:53] Guess you just lost the 'no microphones were harmed in this show' rating [13:53] We got rid of the buzz mic and got some lapel mics... [13:53] We should be good to go soon [13:53] part of the problem with us giving feedback is there's a delay [13:53] 4 Latest testing mmkay [13:53] I use insect lapelent myself... [13:53] of probably like 1-2 minutes [13:54] or at least that's normally the case with shoutcast [13:54] KaylaKaze last show, non-prophets said I have practically 0 delay. [13:54] Jokes brought to you by Puns-R-Us [13:54] weird [13:54] BRB mail just arrived [13:54] weee [13:54] I wonder what they're using then 'cause my shoutcasting is severely delayed [13:55] Shoutcast? are you trying to record this for yourself [13:57] * whosawhatsis has joined #nonprophets [13:57] music [13:57] just use streamripper on winamp [13:57] or sourceforge [13:58] * NeutronJack has joined #nonprophets [13:59] NJ! [13:59] Afternoon rudeboy! [13:59] Last minute test..incoming [13:59] Still a very slight hum, not aggressive though. [13:59] nopt sure if that was a hum or an air conditioner in the background [14:00] It very well could be an air conditionor :P [14:00] or a ceiling fan [14:00] or something else that vibrates [14:00] Music! [14:00] here we go [14:01] * NeutronJack tingles with excitement! [14:01] It's titilating [14:01] emphasis on ilating [14:01] mmmmmmmmmmm [14:01] reminds me of a waitress at Hooters [14:01] speaking to tit-ilating [14:02] oh, my. In the King's ENglish [14:02] * NeutronJack points out that it's "titillating". [14:02] * DripGrind has joined #nonprophets [14:02] danke NJ [14:02] lol [14:03] Alright...I'm finally listening live and in the chatroom. [14:03] Non Prophets go Mystery Science Theater [14:03] Excellent, DripGrind! [14:03] * Brella has joined #nonprophets [14:04] IMO, this doesn't qualify as a "foreign accent", per the drinking game. [14:05] he sounds like tom servo [14:05] Hmmm... Well this is way better than Jeff Dee's "Scottish" accent. [14:05] Well, sure--rap music is better than Jeff's Scottish. [14:05] Bored of directors? [14:05] Yeah, I am [14:05] lol [14:06] most of them make movies now [14:07] * Dave63 has joined #nonprophets [14:07] Ok...if you have questions, I'll do what I can to get them in [14:07] later, I mean [14:07] * Dave63 has quit IRC (Dave63) [14:07] * Dave63 has joined #nonprophets [14:09] what is thor's hammer anyways? what kind of game? [14:09] * etuxr has joined #nonprophets [14:10] thor's hammer is the store where they meet to play various boardgames [14:10] oy vey [14:10] chutes n ladders, D&D, candyland? lol [14:11] I havent played any board games in more then a decade [14:11] Hah...Candyland. I remember that one. [14:11] Not even the classics? [14:11] any audio issues? [14:11] Audio sounds good [14:11] Chess, checkers, backgammon... [14:11] audio sounds good [14:12] we're using lapel mics - and we'll probably replace all of the mics with them [14:12] nowadays they probably have more "X-TREME!" kinds of games, with dinosaurs, eye lazers and martial arts n shit, to quote a certain extreme bunny [14:13] That Bugs Bunny parody from Newgrounds? [14:13] * KaylaKaze has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [14:13] What was his name? [14:13] yes! "a new bunny" I love that one [14:13] Buzz Fucking Bunny [14:13] Yeah, that's it. [14:13] well, thinkgeek sells board games that involve lazers and magnets [14:13] ooh, CrossFire, woopee doo [14:14] * Brella has quit IRC (Brella) [14:14] Influences? It IS the Bush administration. [14:15] "magisteria" = "ways of knowing" = pseudo-intellecualy wussy bullshit [14:15] * KaylaKaze has joined #nonprophets [14:19] * nullifidian has joined #nonprophets [14:20] "I like God--he makes me feel all tingly." [14:20] Did anyone hear Francis Collins on Fresh Air? [14:20] I didnt [14:20] hot air you mean [14:20] :-) [14:20] hehe [14:20] hi all [14:20] He was pretty pathetic. [14:20] 3 waterfalls in teh woods = god, what a maroon [14:20] Especially since he followed Richard Dawkins. [14:21] had trouble conecting. bah [14:21] humbug [14:21] * KaylaKaze has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [14:21] are they taking questions today? [14:22] later [14:22] * zeemy has joined #nonprophets [14:22] cool. missed the beginning so didn't know the format [14:22] They're 1 man down while what's-his-face is gone for a year, so they can't do the questions live. [14:22] righto [14:22] * zeemy has left #nonprophets [14:22] * nullifidian goes to get something with alcohol in it, just in case [14:23] well, they will do it live, but not real time. know what I mean? er... [14:23] yeah, gotcha. ta [14:23] 4 Who cares who came up with "the golden rule" -- I think it stinks. [14:24] it kinda busts the balls of the xian idea of "exalt god above all" too [14:24] So what are the rules now? Asshat, foreign accent...is there anything else? [14:24] * KaylaKaze has joined #nonprophets [14:24] asshat in an accent is downing it, i think [14:24] trouble, kayla baby [14:24] DripGrind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Prophets_Radio#Drinking_Game [14:25] lol [14:25] Cool, thanks. [14:25] (Of course, I wrote that, so it's hardly authoritative.) [14:25] Hah. [14:25] Why didn't God tell the "Golden Rule" to Adam & Eve? Why did he wait thousands of years for Jesus? Why didn't he tell Adam & Eve to write the Bible? Because it's just a stupid story. [14:26] 'Cause he was testing their faith and he works in mysterious ways. [14:26] Duh. [14:26] Don't question!!! [14:26] 4 In spite of "teh golden rule" being in every culture, most cultures are still bigoted, misogynistic, xenophobic and violent. So what good is this 'common sense' really doing us? I like hte definition of common sense moraility as "the prejudices one has acquired by the age of 18" [14:27] i dunno. the phelps are a refutation of that [14:27] they bend the minds of their kids from birth [14:27] from birth is under the umbrella of "by the age of 18" , smartypants [14:27] yes, but does it come under "morality" ;-) [14:28] I said "common sense morality" [14:28] hehe [14:28] Nice job NJ. [14:28] So is the national day of reason over? [14:29] time to go back to being UNreasonable? [14:29] oh, f#$@%@, forgot to buy beer again! Damn it! [14:29] no emergency vodka? [14:29] hm. emergency tequila [14:30] :) [14:30] yeah, got some of that [14:30] Hah. I have plenty of liquor but I only use it to cook with. [14:30] maybe I ought to whip up a Cinco de Mayo drink [14:30] what's one of those? [14:30] since that is today [14:30] a margarita [14:31] oh [14:31] Do you have some Cointreau? [14:31] not sure [14:32] have to g inventory the liquer cabinet [14:32] * scarlett has joined #nonprophets [14:32] finally got in [14:32] howdy [14:32] scarlett [14:32] If God actually parted the sea, appeared as a burning bush, and brought people back from the dead, then science WOULD have something to say about God. But apparently God only does things that "might happen anyway", so he's impossible to detect. [14:32] wb [14:32] skeptics' guide just hit the interweb tuberz http://media.libsyn.com/media/skepticsguide/skepticast2007-05-03.mp3 [14:32] I've been trying to get in here for a half-hour [14:32] HEY ALL! :) [14:32] Scarlett! :D [14:33] (pm right?) [14:33] yeah, there was audio trouble at the beginning too, scarlett. buggy day. I think Cinco De Mayo is taking it's toll [14:33] {{{{Scarlett}}}} [14:33] ((((NPs)))) [14:33] lol [14:33] How's your shoulder? [14:34] It was doing better, yesterday, but... that just meant I wanted to get the house back up-to-snuff and now I'm back to medicating and icing [14:34] thanks for asking though [14:34] this interview has been great so far [14:34] yw [14:34] Cinco de Mayo!? It's Free Comic Book Day that's making everyone nuts, not Cinco de Mayo :-) [14:34] you americans have days for everything [14:34] which is cool [14:34] what would happen if it were Nudie Magazine Day like billy madison [14:34] :) [14:35] We're having a Cinco de Mayo celebration downtown, which will certainly make it harder for me to get to the comic store! [14:35] grrr! dropped again! [14:35] Yeah...the problem is that Christians want their God to be "above definition" [14:35] well... rebuffering rather than dropped [14:35] now it's dropped :-/ [14:36] "how can you try to make something so great as God fit into human, emperical values?" [14:36] scarlett -- yeah, which is more beans spilled when casey luskin was ranting about "intelligent design doesn't need such panzy things like mechanisms and testable predictions" ;/ [14:36] right [14:36] Cinco de Mayo is actually Mexican. We Americans use it as an excuse to drink beer and tequila. [14:36] yeah, it literally means "May 5th." [14:36] you need an excuse for that? ;-) [14:36] Yep. [14:36] I use Cinco de Mayo as the excuse to stand in my backyard and yell "TURN THAT SHIT DOWN, PLEASE!" at my neighbors [14:37] nullifidian in case you haven't noticed, we're a guilt-driven culture. [14:37] My chihuahua is very popular on Cinco de Mayo. [14:37] chihuahua's, boooo [14:37] rotties, yaaayyy [14:37] Nobody boos Xena, Warrior Puppy! [14:37] Only asshats drink beer and tequila. [14:37] lol [14:37] those catholics get everywhere [14:38] Chihuahuas always remind me of that damn Taco Bell dog. [14:38] yes....today we should be doing tequilla shooters for the "asshat" [14:38] that's just because the name is spanish (or sounds spanish, at least). Get a chupacabra, that will be REALLY popular [14:38] Do the possum childrens do anything for CdM [14:38] small children + chupacabra = Enquirer knocking on my door...too much hassle [14:39] P#1 is off at a theme park playing trumpet today [14:39] she just called and said she got first [14:39] sweet! [14:39] yeah! [14:39] what'a a chupacabra? [14:39] go trumpets! :D [14:39] The goat sucker. [14:39] now she's openly defying an instruction I gave her... but that's for another time [14:39] sounds like some kind of evil giant snakey thing [14:39] ah [14:39] He's a monster that eats livestock and small children. [14:40] nullifidian -- chupacabra is a made-up beast in Mexican culture that's said to suck the blood out of goats and mutilate mexicans' cows --- but any actual comparisons to predatory leftovers shows it's always just coyotes and shit [14:40] chupacabra = monster/cow eating cryptozoological thing [14:40] right [14:40] we don't have one of those in the local zoo [14:40] mexican big-foot [14:40] but it's a Mexican monster, cow eating thing. ;) [14:40] hence my ignorance :) [14:40] Prayer is worthless [14:40] no shit news of the day [14:40] TheologEEEEans? [14:40] There have been some sightings in Central America too. [14:41] they only do it because it makes them feel proactive without actually doing anything [14:41] lol yeah, iI noticed that. He's saying theologians. [14:41] does anyone else think Vic sounds like Cliff from Cheers? [14:41] lol [14:42] the fat guy? [14:42] I didn't make that connection. [14:42] now i do [14:42] The fat guy with the mustache. [14:42] the guy who does the Pixar flicks and the "Made in America" stuff [14:42] the postman dude [14:42] The other fat guy is Norm. [14:42] .... never watched cheers, I'm not sure [14:42] yeah!! [14:42] Cliff is the know-it-all mailman. [14:42] that's the guy [14:42] ah, Norm I know, okay yeah I love that actor. Cliff I can't picture. [14:42] Vic sounds like him [14:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_Clavin [14:43] (believe it or not) [14:43] George Wendt?? [14:43] is that his real name? [14:43] http://www.cheers-becker.de/c_cliff_02.JPG [14:43] I thought George Wendt was Norm. [14:43] i googled his picture, thanks for nothin'. yeah, I dont really know that guy. [14:43] darn [14:43] George Wendt rules [14:43] what is this guys name? [14:43] look it up on IMDB geez [14:43] john ratzenberger [14:44] THERE YA GO [14:44] rodent patties [14:44] I haven't watched Cheers in forever. [14:44] He later became pope. [14:44] Ok...Vic sounds like Ratzenberger. Ratzenber... pope...AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! [14:44] * Judas has joined #nonprophets [14:44] in german, obviously [14:44] RUN Non-Prophets [14:44] John Ratzenberger = Cliff [14:44] lol Neurton [14:44] see, all I had to do was google "plays cliff on cheers" see how easy it is? [14:45] I prefer Vic, myself [14:45] I know... but, getting into this chat was so tenuous for me that I don't want to jinx it by bringing up a new window [14:45] ok then [14:45] 4 Bishop Spawn? lol [14:45] I agree with Vic. I don't think that most clergy believe in Jesus [14:46] Use ChatZilla. Then you can just leave this one up and switch between your browser and the chatroom. [14:46] I think clergy men are people who couldn't hack it in a psychology program [14:46] * grrrrraeme has joined #nonprophets [14:46] mayne not, it's a nice little tax free earner if you can get the gig [14:46] maybe* [14:47] * grrrrraeme has quit IRC (grrrrraeme) [14:47] is vic's book limited to the christian idea of a god? [14:48] I didn't get that impression, null. It was, to me, more open that that [14:48] than that [14:48] cool. I've not seen it in the shops here yet [14:50] * etuxr has quit IRC (Client exited) [14:50] hey! I'm a scientist who's into philosophy. ;0 [14:50] dang it [14:52] ahhh, poor Matt [14:52] I didn't understand that either. [14:53] they have to learn something, but wilful ignorance is rife [14:53] we need to STOP dumbing down the education we give our children [14:54] WE NEED TO STOP saying it's "Hard" [14:54] I've heard religious people say "you can't get something from nothing" as a reason to believe in God. [14:54] Math and Science are EASY. They're emperical and observable. They're completely rational topics. But, Americans have demonized them [14:54] So have I. [14:54] Now, poetry--that is HARD. [14:54] but science is hard. is said so in the onion [14:54] :) [14:54] once you get a group of kids who are RAISED in it, they rock in it [14:54] http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38575 [14:54] *brushes shoudlers off* [14:55] yup [14:55] Poetry isn't hard...GOOD poetry is hard. [14:55] just look at pz myer's daughter [14:55] Do you have a picture? [14:55] college at 16 by gum [14:55] I've heard plenty of shit poetry. [14:55] is she cute too? ;-) [14:55] Christians want Math and Science to remain mysterious because it disproves their God [14:55] http://www.skatje.com/ [14:55]