Session Start: Sat Dec 15 12:08:36 2007 Session Ident: #nonprophets [12:08] * Now talking in #nonprophets [12:08] * Topic is 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information!' [12:08] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Dec 01 14:11:17 [12:08] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [12:09] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! [12:09] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! (Non-Prophets)' [12:22] * kb_ck has joined #nonprophets [12:38] * konradius has joined #nonprophets [12:39] Hey, Matt's already here? [12:40] 1h20 still to go according to the internet clock... [12:40] And I think that's actually 20:00 UTC. [12:41] Yes, just confirmed that. [12:46] * kb_ck has quit IRC (Client exited) [13:00] *yawn* [13:00] Ok, I'm partially setup. For those of you here early - you get the inside scoop.... [13:01] Denis probably won't be here today. [13:01] But Russell will be...and Jeff may either show up or call in. [13:01] And, of course, Shilling and I will be here too [13:02] Last show of the year. AFK a bit, still quite a few things to do [13:06] * kb_ck has joined #nonprophets [13:18] * bugsoup has joined #nonprophets [13:27] * grrrrraeme has joined #nonprophets [13:27] * bugsoup has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [13:28] Hey, Russell here [13:31] * rudeboy has joined #nonprophets [13:32] * rudeboy yawns [13:32] about that time, eh? [13:34] * rudeboy twiddles thumbs -- ponders the ethical structure of the universe [13:35] Hi Russell :-) [13:35] 25 minutes to go... [13:42] * rudeboy reverse twiddles thumbs and ponders the unethical conduct of our own current administration [13:42] * bugsoup has joined #nonprophets [13:46] * stephen has joined #nonprophets [13:47] * kb_ck has quit IRC (Client exited) [13:48] * kb_ck has joined #nonprophets [13:49] * rudeboy ponders to himself, "Is it too early for beer?" [13:49] * rudeboy wonders if it would be healthy and responsible to open a fresh bag of cheddar and sour cream Lays chips [13:50] I have a dearth of important things on my mind this day..... [13:50] * chewd has joined #nonprophets [13:50] greetings programs! [13:51] * rudeboy checks his program [13:51] table for three? [13:51] is the show on? [13:51] or did i miss it already? [13:51] You have about 8 minutes [13:51] they are about to start [13:51] sweet! [13:52] hm. mail's here, back in a flash [13:52] arg no luck with winamp [13:53] No surprise...but we'll be starting late, again. [13:53] * tikka has joined #nonprophets [13:53] * TateModern has joined #nonprophets [13:53] Jeff just called, he's on his way over and we'll start after he gets here [13:53] :-) [13:53] im so excited, ive always had to download & listen later [13:53] yo [13:53] woo- jeff rant! [13:53] seet Jeff Dee! [13:53] eee! [13:54] gotta love smirky twerp [13:54] Yay! Good day to blow off work! [13:54] Jeff, Russell, Schilling and Matt, nice team :-) [13:55] Hey, is Matt around? [13:55] so.... is the shoutcast not running yet? am i troubleshooting something that i cant fix? [13:55] It's not running yet [13:55] oh okia [13:57] btw... hello from KC everyone [13:57] Will someone tell him that I said thank you? I went through a really rough patch and listening to him on the tv show and here really helped me through. I just wanted him to know that. :) I'm gonna run and listen while I do other things. [13:57] Tell Matt, that is. [13:57] Matts awesome [13:57] Matt, if you can see this.. youre awesome [13:57] & not just in the physical sense [13:57] He is. :) [13:58] Cool...! And hello from the Netherlands [13:58] * ouini has joined #nonprophets [13:58] sweet... wooden shoes & tulips! [13:59] wow, holland checking in [13:59] Will someone point out the message - Please? Gonna go. [13:59] * arensb has joined #nonprophets [13:59] hehe, only in the tourist areas actually :-) [13:59] * tikka has quit IRC (tikka) [13:59] * Zadius has joined #nonprophets [13:59] we'll let him know [13:59] yea... just joking about my american ignorance [14:00] * grrrrraeme has quit IRC (grrrrraeme) [14:00] NP [14:01] * NeutronJack has joined #nonprophets [14:01] Is the stream working for everyone else? [14:01] Nope. [14:01] Not me. [14:01] stream isnt up yet [14:01] * NeutronJack never trusts a topic that says "today". [14:01] (I can has sound?) [14:01] thank science for that. I was panicking. [14:01] <--- Matt [14:01] * Canadian_hoser has joined #nonprophets [14:01] no sound for you, come back 1 year [14:01] No sound yet...but soon [14:01] I only recently learned (beyond belief 2) that the netherlands was actually with britain the birthplace of the enlightenment [14:02] IIRC it was a Dutchman who invented the microscope. [14:02] You saw the comment earlier Matt? [14:02] Jeff is on his way, we're mostly setup - though Shilling and I are probably going to share a mic. I've got one bad XLR cable [14:02] Yes, Huijgens [14:02] Netherlands... the Huygans' were from there right? and Kepler? [14:02] And, of course, Vincent Van Gogh invented starry nights, which gave birth to astronomy. [14:03] Yes, thanks. :) I'm sorry he had to leave so quickly, but if anything we've said has been beneficial to someone, that's all I really need to keep going. :) [14:03] I thought Kepler was German.. [14:03] * rudeboy needs to refresh his history [14:03] Hmm... Van Gogh was actually a bit later on ;-) [14:03] god bless wikipedia [14:03] er uh... [14:03] darwin bless [14:03] Spinoza was dutch though [14:04] * arensb edits Wikipedia to say that Van Gogh was born in 1690 :-) [14:04] was a German mathematician, astronomer and astrologer, and a key figure in the 17th century astronomical revolution. [14:04] 10 points for rudeboy [14:04] * rudeboy glows with delight [14:04] & a well deserved zero for me [14:04] I knew all those years of watching Mechanical Universe was good for something [14:04] What about Tycho Brahe? Very important obsessive-compulsive. Also had a golden nose, and died of not getting to the bathroom on time. [14:05] Brahe was Polish, I believe [14:05] I thought the nose was silver. [14:05] ycho Brahe, born Tyge Ottesen Brahe (December 14, 1546 – October 24, 1601), was a Danish nobleman famed for his accurate and comprehensive astronomical observations [14:05] ah damn [14:06] * Dave63 has joined #nonprophets [14:06] * jer has joined #nonprophets [14:06] brb [14:06] 10 points for arensh [14:06] HEY IS RUSSEL THERE?!?! [14:06] CONGRATULATIONS YA BIG OL BRAINBOX [14:07] ON YOUR MASTERS! [14:07] Wikipedia says that the nose was alleged to be "silver and gold", though forensic evidence indicates copper. [14:07] how do you lose your nose? [14:07] he lost it in a fight over a woman [14:07] Is stream now? [14:07] so they cut off his nose?!? [14:07] they used large knives [14:07] damn thats harsh [14:08] no, it wasn't a prosecution, it was lost during the fight [14:08] or so I read [14:08] Nowadays, people just write angsty emo poetry. [14:08] screw stoning people to death... holding em down & carving off their nose [14:08] OUCH [14:08] yay [14:08] i think i have a new worst nightmare [14:08] Mic check [14:08] and bob and joe and john check [14:08] yaaaaaaay [14:09] Jeff!! [14:09] speaking of checking the john [14:09] comin in 5x5 JEFF [14:09] hiya jeff!!! [14:09] hello jeff [14:09] thats better [14:09] sound is fine guys [14:09] matts a bit grainy [14:09] oh crap, he's singing [14:09] dont quit your day job [14:09] >_O [14:10] * Dave63_2 has joined #nonprophets [14:10] that one needs more low end [14:10] sounds tinny [14:10] * Dave63 has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [14:10] sorry becky old beast [14:10] if the mike is hissing it indicates a bad connector or it isn;t completely plugged in [14:10] Or else it's not really a mic, but a snake. [14:10] or that he has turned into a snake [14:10] or it's damaged [14:11] (-:-) [14:11] yes jeff, you really do sound like a weasel [14:11] but we love you anyway [14:11] Matt, Denis, Shilling, Russell & Jeff? Five hosts today? [14:11] Is Denis there? [14:11] out of control? him? [14:11] Back in the old days, we had telegraph-casts! And instead of iPods, we had carts full of paper tape! [14:12] Shirley he jests [14:12] I haven't heard Denis yet... [14:12] hell, I still use compact cassettes [14:12] He's doing the "I'm not talking to you" intro. [14:13] wow either theyre chatting in the BG or that mic is really LOW [14:13] * stephen has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007120410]) [14:13] i think i hear russel [14:13] Sound volume is really off between speakers [14:13] Ok, just about ready to start [14:14] yeh.. just gabbin in the background [14:14] I'll tweak audio stuff as I can. We've got one bad mic that we're going to avoid...and I'll have to adjust for Jeff a bit after we get started. [14:14] oh, a piano solo [14:14] damn matt youre good [14:14] play "Funky Poodle" [14:15] do the chicken dance song [14:15] do si do [14:15] what happened [14:15] they are going silent before beginning [14:15] ohhhh [14:15] theyre clever [14:15] I think they must have attenuated juuust a little too much. :) [14:15] Speaking of cassettes, I'm in the process of converting mine to MP3. But my last remaining tape player doesn't have Dolby :-( . Does anyone know whether there's a set of equalizer settings I can apply in Audacity to emulate Dolby B or C? [14:15] all part of the theatrics [14:16] I don't know how to even get started in Audacity [14:16] arensb: youd do well to get a cheapy lil mixer board to do that with [14:16] what do your dropdown menus say? [14:16] It's definitely not worth it to imitate Dolby. Just spend the $30 on a fair cassette player at a pawn shop, and sell it back once you're done if money's an object. [14:16] tweak it before it goes in [14:16] * arensb nods. [14:16] run it through a good stereo [14:17] ah, the phone works [14:17] whos got matts #? [14:17] i am seriously planning a camping trip to austin next summer [14:17] matt does [14:17] I think that was the CD. "DTMF" by the ATTbells. [14:17] its only abt a 12 hr drive [14:17] lol [14:17] 1-800-is-no-god [14:18] 1-900-blowjezuzouturass [14:18] Thanks, rudeboy. [14:18] never dialed it though [14:19] betcha never thought youd be a tourist destination, huh matt? [14:19] does the smelly ghost anser on that line [14:19] lol [14:19] well, I cannopt say [14:19] here we go [14:20] Wow, that's a raw sound. You can hear the both pedals. [14:20] ah, a canadian singer [14:20] we heard the other guys [14:20] I think we heard them just fine. [14:20] it was just low [14:21] okay, well, short show today [14:21] And now, some piano ... [14:21] Sorry, no checks. Cash only. [14:21] try the veal [14:21] this is better than NPR [14:21] national petroleum radio? [14:21] deja vu [14:21] lol [14:21] i love this song, keep going [14:21] Tori Amos [14:21] * NeutronJack takes a drink! [14:22] there making the outtakes version of NPR [14:22] lol [14:22] their [14:22] wow, and I thought I had my share of miscues when I did college radio [14:22] they're [14:22] there [14:22] thaire [14:22] thither [14:22] thats the french spelling [14:22] hither and yon [14:23] * TateModern has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [14:23] Hallelujah! [14:23] * TateModern has joined #nonprophets [14:23] go jeff!! [14:23] Good intro, Jeff! [14:23] haha [14:23] START OVER!!! [14:23] say asshat! [14:23] * LadyAtheist has joined #nonprophets [14:23] bumby takeoff [14:23] how long is it? [14:24] wow [14:24] its a festivus miracle! [14:24] It's the Miracle on 42nd Take. [14:24] lol [14:24] oh brother, war on xmas, that only occurs on Oreilly's show [14:24] time for the airing of grievences [14:24] lol [14:25] don't forget huckaby [14:25] Yeah, I just bugged Denis to send me thelast two intros [14:25] or however his name is spelled [14:25] I really hate xmas music, why can't the bog money religions spend some bucks [14:25] YAY! [14:26] pester [14:26] Procreate? [14:26] pontificate [14:26] berate? [14:26] masterbate [14:26] umm [14:26] tyhat was too easy [14:26] Pray, prance, prank... [14:26] Yes, rudeboy, "masterbate" is a fine word beginning with "p". [14:26] poke [14:26] see [14:26] Prat (as in "don't show up if you're a") [14:27] heh [14:27] pull the wire [14:27] whoops, forget the p theme [14:27] i did that earlier [14:27] in more than one way [14:27] Should actually be PR (PReach, PRoselytize, PRovoke) [14:27] yea [14:27] prod [14:28] uhhhh ... [14:28] promote [14:28] wow [14:28] PRecipitate fights. [14:28] pry [14:28] prevaricate (sp?) [14:28] preheat [14:28] pretend preying prevents... [14:28] don't have time to look this shit up [14:28] Premeditate murder [14:28] prevert [14:28] promulgate [14:28] Tell us! [14:29] Gonna be away from chat (no surprise)...my news story and listener mail is on the other machine [14:29] * NeutronJack has a Master's in CS himself. [14:29] the horror of... [14:29] Congratulatins, Master Russell! That's great. And of course an anagram for master russell is "Artless Lemurs" [14:29] Russell's thesis was showing that the MSM is full of shit. [14:29] Any thesis that mentions Anna Nichole Smith has to be a good one. Were there pictures? [14:30] who is anna nichole smite??? [14:30] hardly a stretch [14:30] well, on anna nichole, everything was stretched ... [14:31] She was good-looking back in her Guess Jeans days. [14:31] never heard of her [14:31] digg.com should not be considered a cross section of the avg population tho [14:31] she was a playboy playmate, but she was also a pillhead [14:31] and yes, she was smited [14:31] Easy on the eyes, but hard on the ears & brain. [14:31] try watching one of her action movies [14:32] I thought that was pamela anderson [14:32] and I use the word action over libreally [14:32] she has "action" movies or action movies? [14:32] Pam is actually pretty decent [14:32] oooh! monkey butlers! [14:32] Pam is a canadian chick [14:32] yep, BC chick [14:32] Jeff has been programming monkey butlers! [14:32] no wonder he hasnt had time for us [14:33] Komox BC, July 1, 1967 [14:33] i mean.. what can compete with that? [14:33] hee hee [14:33] I need a beer, back in a flash [14:34] sim gay??? [14:34] the sims has had gays for awhile hasnt it? [14:34] thats not a bug jeff [14:35] why aren't the fundy's all over sim?? [14:35] because theres no guns in it [14:35] Ick! [14:35] shouldnt have gone there jeff [14:35] animals too? [14:36] sweet [14:37] hey matt that mic needs more low end [14:37] Scooby Doo remains the only Skeptic(s) in a Good Light show. [14:37] lol [14:38] what about jabber jaws? [14:38] Bwah? [14:38] freaky phantom? [14:38] oh wait [14:38] scooby doo makes nerds and potheads look good, too [14:38] isn't House a drug addict [14:39] ive never watched it [14:39] i loved hugh in blackadder tho [14:39] just a few times for me [14:39] ball-bouncingly funny [14:40] earl rocks [14:40] * NeutronJack LOVES Earl! [14:40] never watched it [14:40] earl is all about karma [14:40] its a sitcom where karma is real [14:40] anybody see Trailor Park Boy? [14:40] definately has moments [14:41] real genius was great. val kilmer, right? [14:41] yep [14:41] they did that to a student in the movie [14:42] it is a good ep [14:42] Oh my, really need to resume watching earl :-) [14:43] I will give it a try [14:44] TV will crapify anything you give it. RIGHT Jeff! [14:44] * Zadius has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [14:44] if its not crap, its canceled [14:44] It's Scottish cancelled. [14:44] it's a cancelled chech [14:45] Interesting blend, "chech". [14:45] got to see I am Legend, I loved chuck hestons "Omega Man" [14:45] Man. A masters has really made Russell cynical. [14:46] don't tell any spoilers [14:46] * rudeboy hisses [14:46] i dont hear a hiss [14:46] * NeutronJack doesn't hear it. [14:46] I don't either [14:46] no hiss here [14:46] * Zadius has joined #nonprophets [14:46] its in your head matt [14:46] no hiss on this end [14:46] clean your freakin ears [14:46] I farted but is was more of a "blort" than a hiss [14:46] * kb_ck has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [14:46] No hiss above ~ -25db. Sounds good. [14:47] you're not gonna hear the hiss on the stream - it's too low quality [14:47] 72 virgins? [14:47] the HQ recorded version will have it [14:47] ahh [14:47] 72 virgins = startrek convention [14:47] lol [14:47] vampire motif [14:47] * TateModern has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [14:48] the muslims will have such a suprise when they get down there [14:49] so he "played" a christ like martyr [14:50] * pmomma has joined #nonprophets [14:50] oh brother [14:50] hello [14:50] sounds like Omega Man not the book [14:50] hi! [14:50] hello pmomma [14:50] Oh wow. Hello pmomma, nice to meet you! [14:51] hello pmomma, eh [14:51] same here [14:51] or he was simpoly hallucinating after years of being alone [14:51] well in a fictional world god can be real [14:51] Argument from incomplete devastation. [14:52] heh [14:53] Vincent Price really is legend. PBUH. [14:53] a guy wondering the earth with his buddies, looking for food and a place to sleep, with a penchant for caves - oh yeah...zombie [14:54] which is how the book went [14:54] Nicholas Cage sold out [14:55] New rule: drink whenever someone says "troglodytic horseshit" [14:56] Nicholas Cage peaked with raising arizona [14:56] Is there a point in the movie before the end where, if the film suddenly ended, the movie would have been better? [14:57] I am very angry with the tooth fairy [14:58] * NeutronJack has quit IRC [14:58] santa didnt bring me a pony [14:58] i hate him! [14:59] At least the FSM has never let me down... yet. [14:59] the easter bunny shit all over my carpet [14:59] ramen [14:59] Yes, the FSM is a good diety [14:59] * arensb spills marinara on his white shirt. [15:00] DAAAAMN YOOOOUUU, FSM! [15:00] *hands you a shout wipe [15:00] what the FSM giveth, tide can taketh away [15:00] now with bleach! [15:00] FSM and tide wait for no man. [15:01] well, he is made of unbleached flour [15:01] for bleach removeth the tasty sauce of life [15:01] With FSM as my witness, I will never be hungry again! [15:02] stoning children is good? What? Did they go to the Joan Crawford School of Parenting? [15:02] No, the Britney Spears shcool [15:02] poser [15:02] I said No Wire Hangars! [15:02] thou shalt not use carseats [15:02] thou shalt beat your child with a can of Ajax [15:03] I liked the Golden Compass [15:03] I was disappointed. But there's fairly little that couldn't be fixed with an hour's worth of extended scenes. [15:03] My daemon is a tiger [15:04] I saw a French review that said, basically, that with so many 3-hour movies coming out lately, it was nice that this one kept it down to 2 hours. Except this was the one exception that *should* have been 3 hours long. [15:04] atheist movie hour [15:04] what... the pope didnt say anything stupid this week? [15:05] Vow of silence? [15:05] lol [15:05] I agree with Russell's objection. I think it can be summed up as "railroading DM". [15:06] sounds like yet another movie without character motivation [15:06] and that exact same criticism applies to "Tin Man" on Sci-Fi Channel [15:06] * kb_ck has joined #nonprophets [15:07] did Russel just pull a Forest Gump? "And that's all I have to say about that." [15:07] It was rushed. A lot of it felt like "well, we don't have time to explain why Lyra needs to go to the next scene, so let's just cut to the next scene" [15:07] Greatest movie of all time is Aliens (Jame Cameron) [15:08] So far, I still have to vote for Day the Earth Stood Still -- old as it is [15:08] I agree. It was rushed and barebones. It had some neat metaphors. The daemon "souls" seemed to represent the instinctual side of a person. The Authoritarians seemed to have more (obedient) dogs for daemons, while freethinkers had more cats. And the authoritarians' daemons didn't speak. [15:08] In the books, servants and soldiers tend to have dogs. [15:08] the greatest move of all time is 'The Life of Brian' [15:08]