Session Start: Sat Dec 01 14:05:34 2007 Session Ident: #nonprophets [14:05] * Now talking in #nonprophets [14:05] * Topic is 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, December 1st, 2007! at 3:00pm eastern (19:00 UTC) on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes.' [14:05] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Nov 17 16:03:42 [14:05] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [14:05] there we go! [14:05] * gmp has joined #nonprophets [14:05] * tik2roo has joined #nonprophets [14:05] turn on your might wurlitzer guys, you're running behind [14:06] there we go what [14:06] the NPs are in the room, things should start happening shortly [14:06] Yes, I'm sure I could explain why we're running late - but it's so common now that it really doesn't matter [14:06] heh [14:06] Slackers! hehe [14:07] Suffice to say, there are good reasons this time...instead of the weak-assed ones we've had in the past [14:07] just so you're here and we can get this campfire circle going [14:07] Okay, so it is live today - I'm not tuning in on an off day. *happiness* Yay! [14:07] give em a few minutes to catch their collective breath [14:07] I schedule non-prophets on my google calendar [14:07] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! [14:07] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! (Non-Prophets)' [14:07] If you guys want to mention it, the D'Souza/Dennett debate is on youtube, and i got the link for it [14:07] I used to until I started working on Saturdays. *sad face* [14:08] d'souza is much too annoying [14:08] Is it any good..? [14:08] Post-poned to 3pm? [14:08] http://nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000 is the feed root [14:08] oops, sorry eastern [14:08] Yeah, he's annoying..but Dennett spanks him [14:08] post-pwned [14:09] D'sousa is always annoying when he's interviewed on Thom Hartmann's show [14:09] Heard the others of D'Souza were not that decisive [14:09] i just cannot stand listening too him - he bugs me in a way the other xian apologists don't [14:10] I'm quiet because I just spilled a huge glass of water all over my computer/wires [14:10] Well, he pulls a Godwin about 5 minutes in, so it's pretty funny [14:10] Is it streaming yet? [14:10] is the feed working now? [14:10] nope [14:10] ok thanks [14:10] You know, you'd think the Non-Prophets would make sure their timeliness reflected the amount of money they rake in every week. Oh wait, they do. [14:10] :) [14:10] * Zadius has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [14:10] :-) [14:10] also with d'souza - I don't think he really believes - it is just part of the conservative persona he adopted in college [14:11] Awwww [14:11] We're almost ready...and money is one of the issues, but not in the way you might think. :) [14:11] wait aren't we atheists supposed to have enormous money and power? [14:11] The show's timeliness is directly related to how much money they can spend on booze to get ready? [14:11] One of you lose yer day job? [14:11] From past shows, it sounded like the ACA has a good amount of standing cash, they just have to figure out what to do with it. [14:11] so Booze = longer show? [14:11] * LinkedList has joined #nonprophets [14:12] More booze=sooner show? [14:12] * Zadius has joined #nonprophets [14:12] You know, I really don't like Godwin's law, I think Nazi/Hitler comparisons should be made more often (as they're applicable) [14:12] I've been out of work since October 1st, Aerik - it's related to that. Not catastrophic, nothing to bother you all with. It's just been a bad weekend...and it's only Saturday morning. :) [14:12] It'll get better, though. [14:13] been ther before brother [14:13] Sorry Matt. [14:13] We've been having what was supposed to be an ice storm where I am. I bet in busier places it'd be a real bother [14:13] first snow of the season here in chicago - all the idiots have forgotten how to drive on slick surfaces so the roads will be a mess [14:13] Ah, how's the writing going? [14:13] I wish it would finally snow here and get it over with [14:13] * ilya has joined #nonprophets [14:13] first rain in months here in LA too. Lots of acidents yesterday [14:14] we had a snow a couple weeks ago. half an inch maybe. then later some rain washed it away [14:14] I don't know whether Matt has reached his saturation point for pontificating about religious issues, but it'd be a pretty neat angle to get a job at a newspaper (anywhere in the country, nowadays with the internet), as a religious issues editorialist. [14:14] port forwarding is fixed, you should be able to connect now - but hear nothing [14:14] is the feed working? [14:14] or you could just make a blog [14:14] ah [14:14] Yup. I'm connected. Just some light white noise [14:14] Blogs don't usually pay as much [14:15] yup, 8 of you connected already. We'll start very soon...wanna give folks a few more minutes to connect [14:15] stream is running! [14:15] * grrrrraeme has quit IRC (grrrrraeme) [14:15] 12 now...and climbing, 13... 15 ... love you guys. :) [14:15] sweet [14:15] i thought i was late [14:15] good to hear i wasn't [14:15] hey, graeme left' [14:15] It's gotta feel good to be popular [14:16] how many people connect usually? [14:16] unless you are a poplar being cut down... oh wait, that's a tree' [14:16] Wow, lots of people in the chat today. [14:17] * rudeboy pulls yet another unbelievably bad pun out of his ass ... [14:17] i am trying to listen to stream for first time. what program should i use to listen? i hope you aren't going to say realplayer [14:17] No sound yet? [14:17] mine is in my itunes [14:17] VLC is good [14:17] use winamp or itunes [14:17] nope, no sound [14:17] no sound here, using itunes [14:17] I use iTunes [14:17] thanks rudeboy [14:17] vlc ftw [14:18] now sound [14:18] foobar pwns itunes [14:18] umhm [14:18] here it goes [14:18] lol [14:18] hahah [14:18] I use winamp [14:18] wild turkey and passenger pigeons? [14:18] american guts? [14:18] shit out good old american asses? [14:18] * grrrrraeme has joined #nonprophets [14:18] hey, what a warm greeting in aurel [14:18] WB Graeme [14:19] ho give me a home where the buffalo roam and the deer and the antelope get shot to hamburger. [14:19] stream is up [14:19] pooter crashed! [14:19] oh jeeze...that took a turn [14:19] * Aerik_ has joined #nonprophets [14:19] well, spank that CPU [14:19] more spanking [14:19] and then later you can spank the..... oooooop [14:19] never enough spanking [14:19] im connecting to the stream... [14:20] * tik2roo has quit IRC (tik2roo) [14:20] is that britney? [14:20] I gotta figure out why winamp's buffer is so slow lately [14:20] who is this [14:20] That was craziest intro I ever heard. [14:20] William S. Burroughs - Thanksgiving Prayer [14:20] but great [14:20] Looks like I'll be a minute behind everybody else again. [14:20] ah [14:20] should have guessed [14:20] nice [14:21] atheists.... in Austin? In TEXAS???!! [14:21] Don't forget, we eat babies too! [14:21] oh right [14:21] where is that infant deep fry I had in the fridge..... hm [14:21] will no one save the chlidren?! [14:21] Austin is to Texas what San Francisco is to California. Or Iowa City is to Iowa. [14:21] fornicate? fornicate? Where? [14:21] I was thinking false dichotomy, but maybe not [14:21] I need to catch up on my fornication [14:21] * Aerik has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [14:21] Ad hominen? [14:21] Fornicate Fornicate,,, dance to the music [14:21] * Aerik_ is now known as Aerik [14:22] Godwin's law is in [14:22] that intro is not far wrong [14:22] Who *doesn't* appreciate fornication?! Loved it. [14:22] no, loved it [14:22] The intro was nice! [14:23] Now, is there fornication at Dillahunty Studios? [14:23] accents? [14:23] * Dave63 has joined #nonprophets [14:23] Yes accents! [14:23] fore and aft-nication [14:23] what happens in dllahunty studios.... [14:23] Stays in dillahunty studios [14:23] port side out, starboard side home [14:23] POSH [14:23] I have an email from ROYAL FINANCE LENDERS lol [14:23] Late show. Excellent... [14:23] WAR ON XMAS!!!!! [14:23] Happy Festivus Everybody! [14:24] quick call Bill O Fuckme [14:24] at Faux news [14:24] May the Farts Be with You [14:24] * rudeboy belches with alacrity [14:25] may the schwartz be with you? [14:25] 'sacreligious'. That Shilling -- he's a card/ [14:25] may the schwantz (sp) [14:25] what makes them "Royal?" [14:26] It's spam, let it go [14:26] hey, canada has a flag day too [14:26] Canada doesn't count, you know that. ;) [14:26] canadian money beats ours now [14:26] so someone is counting [14:26] Ah, so show after that is 12 januari? [14:27] But no country adds their country name as an object modifier. It's like Mexican food. In Mexico, they just call it 'food'. [14:27] right [14:27] but it is all good [14:27] Looks like Matt and Denis are still dirt poor, with only a Shilling between them. [Buh Dump Dump, Tsssss....] [14:27] lol [14:27] good one [14:28] http://www.expressandstar.com/2007/11/30/dorito-ufo-seen-in-skies/ "dorito ufo" is the new vogue [14:28] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw7J15TeDG4 [14:28] madonna's space ship? [14:28] Dennett D'Souza debate [14:28] haha madonna [14:28] Don't watch it now though, listen to Matt, heeh [14:29] Loved Dennis on the TV show :-) [14:29] Biblical wisdom? Oxymoronic... or some other gas? [14:30] guest? [14:30] How to wisely treat the bible...use it to refute theists. [14:31] hosit them with their own petard [14:31] First time I heard "hoisted by my own petard" was family guy haha [14:31] * rudeboy searchs for his missing petard [14:31] You're the devil now Matt...if they talk to you, you might burn them up ;) [14:31] hamlet has so many good ones [14:32] hamburger hamlet? [14:32] that rules [14:32] yuck, hamlet just made me think of mel gibson [14:32] think of a real actor [14:33] dun dun dun [14:33] oooooh nasty [14:33] naughty matt [14:33] what have you been UP TO?!?!!? [14:33] why does hamlet make you think of mel gibson? [14:33] you have gone astray! [14:33] yeah, I think of Kenneth Brannaugh or Laurence Olivier [14:33] he played him once [14:33] irregular listeners? [14:33] regular [14:34] they just need to eat more head cheese [14:34] i know ;) [14:34] ah [14:34] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099726/ [14:34] and you're a heathen [14:35] * LinkedList has quit IRC (What does this button...) [14:35] heh [14:35] * Dave63_2 has joined #nonprophets [14:35] * Dave63 has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [14:35] hm doppleganger daves [14:36] I was never cute enough for a priest to go after me [14:36] heh, sure about that? [14:36] considering i still have my behymen, pretty sure [14:36] lol [14:36] oh, there's one ther too? [14:37] its an invisible forcefield, hehe [14:37] ah, I cannot think of anything clean to rebutt here [14:37] bad pun [14:37] yeah, but butt [14:38] * NeutronJack is back! [14:38] matt, that's a thing christians do all the time try to think about what could cause someone to be atheist and usually they come up with irrational explinations... like my mom decided it was because i wanted to hurt her [14:38] NJ! [14:38] Because they can't admit there may be a *good* reason [14:39] exactly [14:39] The wife called, and I responded. It was good. [14:39] i left out the part about a friend breaking my confidence and told my mom [14:39] D'Souza gave Pascal's wager in his debate...it was so sad [14:39] yes, most christians think that you are an atheist because you are mad at god. they can't conceive of non-belief. [14:40] so someone aborted non belief? [14:40] In first grade, they just said, "do you worship satan?" [14:40] Well, I say that Christians are just mad at not-god [14:40] and I would say, is satan giving me a better deal? [14:40] who said that we evaporate into nothingness? [14:40] and what is the downpayment? [14:40] afraid of not god [14:40] and what is my annual APR with this deal? [14:40] hahahahahahahaha [14:41] "annual APR", you say. [14:41] whats your pin number [14:41] does satan recognize the california lemon law? IF it don;t work right you get a free replacement? [14:41] jeebus [14:41] lol [14:41] what is jeeeezuz;s oin number? [14:41] pin mumber [14:41] number [14:41] damn keyboard, keys are in the wrong places [14:42] You're getting number by the second, rudeboy! :-) [14:42] try decaf [14:42] decaff? on a beer? [14:42] why would you wanna be with a virgin [14:42] fuck that [14:42] haha [14:42] i never understood that one [14:42] virgins- braggin rights! :) [14:43] who do you brag to? [14:43] "But those religions are stupid, so I don't have to even consider them!" "Ah, now you understand my objection to your religion." [14:43] toast to a german virgin: Gutentight! [14:43] oooookay, I need another beer [14:43] :( [14:44] that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard [14:45] god is a moron though [14:45] As if belief can be turned on & off like a light switch. [14:46] in the republican party it is [14:46] Well, not existing does have a big affect on the old IQ [14:46] look at our innerds [14:46] who would want to be worshipped? [14:46] yaweeeee does [14:46] Ok, maybe I do [14:46] i wouldn't mind being worshipped [14:46] but it might get old [14:46] i don't wanna be worshiped [14:46] yaw weigh nearly 100 pounds. parcel post this one! [14:46] only on Mondays, Wednesday and Fridays [14:47] worship me pigs [14:47] so does anyone chat about what's actually on the show? [14:47] I couldn't respect worship [14:47] if we have anything to add Russ [14:47] sometimes we chat about the current convo, sometimes we get off on side topics [14:47] I suffer from keyboard ADD [14:48] just curious [14:49] so atheism is pessimism? [14:49] so when I am happy, which is most of the time, I'm violating some atheist code? [14:50] hm [14:50] atheism is being humble...we don't assume the sky daddy made all this for us and cares who we have sex with [14:50] That's atheist DOGMA, rudeboy. [14:50] yes [14:50] oooooooooh [14:50] yes you are supposed to be angry and bitter like old Madelyn was [14:50] hah! well, I'm breaking that rule every day [14:50] good for you! [14:50] i don't think Madelyn was bitter [14:51] angry, and later insane, but not bitter [14:51] she didn't have people skills [14:51] could be wrong [14:51] i was a christian back in madelyn's heyday and she made me want to stay a christian. luckily others reached me with reason [14:52] Well, cannot deny she did get the ball rolling [14:52] and ended up the lightning rod for all things "bad" when someone would even mention atheism and =atheists [14:52] Madalyn Murray O'Hair: The most misspelled atheist name, ever. [14:52] i think to this day when people hear atheist, they think of her... to the detriment of all of us [14:52] yep [14:53] nah, they think Stalin or Hitler [14:53] i don't think so [14:53] my generation doesn't know that name very well [14:53] vegetarians have that problem with ingrid newkirk! [14:53] Vegetarians have that problem with Hitler, the non-vegetarian. :-( [14:53] BTW, I'm a vegetarian, and I have no idea who Ingrid Newkirk is. [14:54] everyone has that problem with hitler! [14:54] i never heard her name until i started looking into atheism in 9th grade(when i finally learned there was a word for those without believes- i was under the impression that atheists believed in and worshiped the devil) [14:54] IN is the the founder of peta [14:54] hitler had a problem with hitler [14:54] lol [14:54] hitler had more issues than the magazine section at border's [14:55] LOL, yeah and he had a spastic colon too [14:55] http://friendlyatheist.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/mariocross.jpg [14:55] Evidently his digestive system was royally screwed up and some quack doctor only made him worse [14:55] so we should be against people with colon problems [14:55] non-prophets look at this insane page "debunking skeptics' arguments" http://www.geocities.com/wwu777us/Debunking_Skeptical_Arguments.htm [14:56] check out the documentary "Blind Spot: Hitler's Secretary". Amazing stuff [14:56] * Canadian_hoser has joined #nonprophets [14:56] No lady atheist, just some info I heard recently [14:56] not sure of the veracity of it, but given his history, it doesn't surprise me [14:57] hey,k hoser [14:57] I was joking :) [14:57] ah [14:57] late today, working... [14:57] working on..... [14:57] making $$$ [14:58] doing something good for the planet? [14:58] what you gonna do, cry about it? nice...the ultimate counter-apologetic [14:58] websites for the government [14:58] cool [14:58] * gmp has quit IRC (gmp) [14:59] and that far north it is probably very cool [14:59] anyone going to Golden Compass [15:00] "Weather Jokes from Above the 49th Parallel" -- by WIsenheimer [15:00] Yeah, GC looks good in the trailers [15:00] I think atheists who are former Christians should write to their old friends and de-convert them.. whaddaya think? [15:00] when does it come out? GC [15:00] lol [15:00] Good luck with that, BroRussell. [15:00] ummm heck no [15:00] It's out today isn;t it? [15:00] Oh i know it's futile. I don't think Matt should even bother answer his friend's letter [15:00] i don't talk to any of those people anymore... i have christian friends now.. but want nothing to do with my childhood christian friends [15:00] we atheists are going to the Dev 7 showing as a group [15:01] ah, this coming weekend [15:01] tonight for a sneak preview [15:01] I have a union party that day, maybe I'll see a matinee on the weekend [15:01] lol [15:02] atheist-= you're full of shit [15:02] I heard that GC has been sanitized [15:02] well, isn't that so xtian? [15:02] sanitized? [15:02] you mean recut to take out the "bad" bits? [15:02] all the god stuff has been removed [15:02] where'd you read that [15:02] I heard it [15:03] tend to ignore previews [15:04] try to get religious groups to work together, ha!! [15:04] I tend to lean towards DVDs now, since they usually have all the scenes left in [15:04] oops, need to write a quickie email to someone, I'll be lurking for a moment [15:04] if the xians did not make a stink about GC, I would have waited for the DVD [15:05] Practicing their faith? Whaaaaaaaaaat? [15:05] oooh, Xtians are bothered by the movie? [15:05] You have to practice your faith every day or you'll never be any good at it. [15:06] self re-inforcing delusion [15:06] recursive retardation [15:06] "We're scared--their magic might be stronger than ours." [15:06] fractaling fallacious thinking [15:06] My faith kung-fu is stronger... [15:06] "interfaith" to most people in the US means methodists and lutherens [15:06] hmmm breach of contract action..lol [15:07] you can come and pray...but you have to pray to our god...just like people who say gays can get married, just not to eachother [15:08] They need to call someone in this story and asshat [15:08] * BroRussell has quit IRC (BroRussell) [15:08] Go Jews! [15:08] no penalties??? [15:08] they could get sued for breach of contract [15:08] ha [15:09] and have to pay the fees and stuff to get it changed to a new venue [15:10] sorry lawyer in me coming out [15:10] :-) [15:10] same magic [15:10] oh crap the teddy bear story [15:10] different sorcerers [15:10] yes! love the teddy bear story [15:11] death to the namer of a teddy bear [15:11] This is a classic example of what WRONG with belief [15:11] I think if the muslims want to be fair, they should be punishing the 7 year olds [15:11] Note that the bear was named after the most popular boy in class. It was NOT named after the prophet. [15:11] The bear is the victim in all this [15:11] let them burn Teddy -- he can bear it [15:11] beat the stuffing out of the heathen [15:11] your grizzly tonight [15:11] I know, I need to rub my backside against a tree [15:12] chop off its head [15:12] there's an image [15:12] Ignorance of the idiotic law is no excuse. For the idiotic law. [15:12] I need to ponderosa this issue [15:12] anyone know if they confiscated the bear? [15:12] constipated the bear? [15:12] Common sense is not to go to a country where you can get killed for blasphemy [15:12] If the bear is called mohammed, are we banned from making an image of it? [15:12] Send every muslim nation a picture of the bear saying, You KNow WHo says HI!!!! [15:13] Death to those who call toys mohammed [15:13] are musslims more crazy than xians??? [15:13] How to win friends and influence people [15:13] yes [15:13] they're the craziest [15:13] the ost blood thirstiest [15:13] How dare you be intolerant...we'll kill you if you keep being intolerant [15:13] oh that's why i'm confused... i'm lagging... just started hearing the teddy bear story [15:13] by peaceful religion, you mean tearing stuffed bears to pieces? [15:13] they're literally still in the dark ages [15:13] xians had their blood thirsty period in history [15:13] with nukes [15:13] so are many xtians in this nation [15:14] they live their lives in the dark ages [15:14] not the same way [15:14] not nearly the same way [15:14]