Session Start: Sat Nov 03 13:58:28 2007 Session Ident: #nonprophets [13:58] * Now talking in #nonprophets [13:58] * Topic is 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, November 3rd, 2007! at 3:00pm eastern (19:00 UTC) on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes.' [13:58] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Oct 20 15:43:26 [13:58] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [13:58] about time [13:58] Yay!! [13:58] Don't panic [13:58] Nice greeting, rudeboy. :-) [13:58] you guys get stuck at the bar and forget to pay your bill? [13:58] FOund a new podcast by a guy in Tennessee - The Rational Factor - newbie but he does have great music [13:59] link us [13:59] or I'll just google that [13:59] We'll be starting a bit late...Lots of misc problems this morning. Including a semi-mysterious odor in the house that had to be cleared before we could set up [13:59] sorry, I farted [13:59] But...the show may run a bit long, to make up for it. :) [13:59] aaah the famous words from douglas adams [13:59] Oooo. I can't get in. "site too busy" [13:59] won't happen again, at least within the next few minutes or so [13:59] started his latest podcast with Drive Me To Heaven Boy - jesus as carjacker [13:59] lol [14:00] jeeebus the carjacker? [14:00] you can hear it at http://therationalfactor.libsyn.com/ [14:00] ah! mail [14:00] 's here [14:00] back in a minute [14:00] AFK [14:00] What Would Jesus Jack? [14:01] loaded question -- or loaded hands [14:02] Okay, I can't open the live streaming audio. Have they hit their maximum number of listeners? [14:02] * stephen has joined #nonprophets [14:02] having tech issues - won't be long [14:02] uh, no. [14:02] MikeEllis: The show hasn't started, yet. [14:03] O, good. I'm kinda happy if they have maxed out (good for them) but I wanted to listen as I clean. [14:03] * jer has joined #nonprophets [14:04] Is http://nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls the site where you can listen live? [14:04] so they say [14:04] yup [14:04] I hope so. That's the site I'm trying to open. [14:04] it's not up yet though [14:05] Okay, just checking, I've never listened live before [14:05] my second time [14:07] While waiting, go to http://therationalfactor.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=273719 listen to the first 3.5 minutes - great song [14:07] did everyone see Phelps got fined 10Mil? Wooopee...lets hope it gets upheld. [14:07] Ok, we're about 90% ready...setting up the stream in just a sec [14:07] I think i got the title wrong before - it is Give Me a Ride to Heaven Boy [14:07] yeah, phelps got whacked [14:07] finally [14:07] No. Why did he? [14:08] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! [14:08] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! (Non-Prophets)' [14:08] He did not get fined - there was a judgement against him - I think Phelps will win on appeal unfortunately [14:08] protesting at funerals [14:08] Father of a dead soldier sued after Phelps et al. picketed the son's funeral [14:08] I think he will win too [14:08] Good, he has every right to be a complete ass. [14:08] family of a marine killed in Iraq sued his wacky family/church for disrupting his funeral [14:08] after all, he has gog on his side [14:08] the jury awarded him. but yeah, the little peckerwood will appeal [14:09] stream's up [14:09] * Dave63 has joined #nonprophets [14:09] praise gog [14:09] We'll be talking about Phelps today... [14:09] yep. stream is running! [14:09] yay [14:10] I'm hearing odd, percussion-heavy music. Is this right? [14:10] no [14:10] We can hear you just fine. [14:10] * TaylorK has joined #nonprophets [14:10] test test test - yep a bit loud [14:10] Heh heh heh. [14:11] I can hear ya [14:11] ok now [14:11] slightly over modded there [14:11] SOMETHING [14:11] It wasn't loud for me actually [14:11] you sound like my guild master from wow [14:11] I had silence, but I can hear OK now. [14:11] ok for me too [14:11] Something [14:11] Huge delay though :-) [14:11] sound is fine now [14:12] The feed went to iTunes. Some lousy program has been re-writing my preferences again! [14:12] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets The Non-Prophets are LIVE at http://www.nonprophetsradio.com. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for show information. [14:12] * ChanServ changes topic to 'The Non-Prophets are LIVE at http://www.nonprophetsradio.com. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for show information. (Non-Prophets)' [14:13] GET THEE BEHIND ME SATAN!!!!! [14:14] preacher raised his hands, and tapped the stall next door for some action [14:14] as heard at the Minneapolis airport [14:15] Is Sterling really stalwart? [14:15] I'm gonna look that word up. [14:15] I've never had a wart, let alone one that stalled [14:15] perhaps they were using poor gas [14:16] If I go into the transcript of chats for recent shows, will I find the official label for "What propaganda technique is Denis using this time?" [14:17] I'm cured; I feel like a well hung pork roast [14:17] I think Denis said the "fallacy of tradition". [14:17] This time, yes. But I've missed some of the others. [14:17] If I'd known the ACA were coming up here last Saturday, I would have gone too. I found out the next day. [14:18] satan and metal detecters [14:19] Guns would have been unnecessary. You could have just had two guys kiss and watch the Fundies drop dead from horror. [14:19] So there are no guns in Hell House? Not much of a Hell House then ... [14:19] hah! [14:19] What's a hell house without guns? [14:19] No guns for visitors probably... [14:19] Sounds more like a "Heck House"... [14:20] There are no guns in the real Hell. Just cable showing endless re-runs of Full House. [14:20] hee hee! [14:21] ah, a sc hool shooting? [14:21] So, observe and duplicate? [14:22] so if I accept gawd and then shoot, I get to go to heaven? [14:22] wow. it's so.... so.... EASY [14:22] yep, it's called fire insurance [14:22] Among all these lone-gunman-shoots-random-people events, has there ever been one of a Christian taking out a bunch of perceived sinners? [14:23] Hmm... And nobody heard of Ted Haggard..?? [14:24] Meth kills me..? But how could Ted survive then. (Oh wait, this guy had a jesus shield...) [14:24] even the stereotypes that cancel out the other stereotypes, like Wicca and Satanism. [14:24] "Jesus Shield" Is that a brand of condom? [14:24] * Brandon has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [14:25] yeah, the heavenly condom [14:25] HELLO - ted just bought it...he wasn't going to take it - he just wanted it to hold while he had his massage [14:25] Immaculate Contraception [14:25] heaven tested and approved [14:25] go in like a lion; come like a lamb [14:25] lol [14:26] Was this Hell House in the church itself, or some other building? [14:27] moss? kate moss? [14:27] shocked by xtian violence? [14:27] She's training to be a good Fundy wife. [14:28] * Dave63_2 has joined #nonprophets [14:28] * Dave63 has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [14:29] wow. did they pay music royalties to M Manson for playing those tunes? [14:29] or ANY music? [14:29] probably part of their tax-free deal with the govt [14:29] in their own minds at least [14:30] yeah [14:31] * Reviis has joined #nonprophets [14:31] so daddy just does it wwwithout motivation? [14:31] * barnetto has joined #nonprophets [14:31] cause and effect seems to elude these people [14:32] Of course. Their worldview can't tolerate cause-and-effect. [14:32] right. this shit just happens. caused by satan's imps [14:32] I keep forgetting that [14:32] Porn makes you a murderer, didn't you know? [14:32] Does the repenting girl go to Hell too? [14:32] cause = satan, effect = sin??? [14:33] And I thought porn creep was the worst side-effect. [14:33] seems to me they are implying that nothing will save you so there [14:33] is the stream up? [14:33] yes [14:33] at best crying out for gawd is just a feel good thing [14:34] When buried alive, crying out for God will just burn your oxygen faster [14:34] wow. they can afford 54 inch screens? [14:34] We know how heaven is like. After we watch a documentary about north korea ;-) [14:34] HALF A MILLION BUCKS!? [14:34] Heaven is a snuff film [14:35] watching The Passion of a Christ is part of my idea of Hell [14:35] wow I hope heaven has bigger`than 52" plasma [14:35] Gawd in high Def? [14:35] According to Carlin, Heaven is a stripclub out by the airport. [14:35] oh yeah [14:36] Go to Heaven. Bring singles. [14:36] 19" ahhh! [14:36] This is not true. TV in Hell plays Full House. I'm sure of this. [14:37] and the view perhaps? [14:37] Which one shows porn films, Heaven or Hell? [14:37] It also shows Funniest Home Videos. Cats falling off of TVs, and guys getting hit in the sack, all day, all night. [14:37] Full House and Love Boat [14:37] right, Bam Magera getting torpedoed every few seconds [14:37] Love Boat is a mind coma. Full House is root canal surgery. [14:38] Gilligan's Island then [14:38] I like Dawn Wells. [14:38] I think I just described my metaphor with another metaphor [14:38] so it was a metafive [14:38] meta sixteen. [14:39] oh, right. it's a exponent [14:39] exponential imagery [14:39] umhm [14:39] expomagery [14:40] question: to maintain their tax-free status, do churches have to make their finances open to the public/government? [14:40] not that I am aware of [14:40] two sets of books, one for them and one for the govt [14:40] Other not-for-profits do. [14:41] Oh, great--atheist transvestites. That's good publicity for us. :-( [14:41] I just wanted to see the official tally of monies earned in the Hell House [14:41] RI CO LA [14:41] No, used condoms! [14:42] I hope these guys are just talking here. [14:42] huh, what a drag [14:42] Please don't tease the fundies by perpetuating their stereotypes. [14:42] You just give them more ammo. [14:43] yeah, they left off the pedo priests etc. [14:43] They can invent all the ammo they need. Give them food for thought [14:44] BRB [14:44] But they don't think! [14:44] They don't get satire. They take it too literally. [14:44] Give them enough food and they may start, at least some of them [14:44] A few maybe. [14:45] But mostly they'd spend years re-telling about the time the heathen tranvestites came to Hell House. [14:48] yeah, damn it, good point [14:48] Matt's right about this. [14:48] much as it pains me to admit [14:48] They're assholes, but they have the right to be assholes. [14:49] no they are saying he is rotting in hell and he is gay - surely that is personal [14:49] Now we need military families to picket their church. [14:49] No, they didn't say the son is gay. [14:49] They believe he died in a war caused by the nation's tolerance of gays. [14:50] They didn't violate the law, but that doesn't mean they can't be sued. [14:50] a war started by a xian presiedent [14:51] that's debatable [14:51] they will win the appeal - absolutely no doubt [14:52] I wonder if Bush really believes himself to be a Christian, or just poses as one for political reasons [14:52] What if these people were protesting Abortion at the funeral? Would that be protected free speech too? It seems to me that "God hates fags"is just as irrelevant aa that. [14:52] The local ACLU president is coming over for dinner. I'll ask her about this. [14:53] I am sorry but I don't see how defending Phelps helps atheists [14:53] defending Free Speech helps everyone [14:54] * hookem has joined #nonprophets [14:54] I agree - I just think better people could be supported with our money [14:54] strengthening his right to say whatever also strengthens Bill Maher's right to say religion is bullshit, for example [14:54] there's a difference between defending what phelps says and defending his right to say it [14:54] my old scoutmaster is the head of the ACLU in Washington state he was railing on this one the other day [14:55] good point [14:56] I really want to see military familes staging legal protests outside their church on Sundays. [14:57] I need to go. I'm getting no cleaning done here. [14:57] * MikeEllis has quit IRC [14:58] Like my wife said, "We Catholics don't need to read the bible--we have people to do that for us." [15:02] * ilya has joined #nonprophets [15:02] start early? [15:02] or am i late? [15:03] late, but they started late [15:03] are you outside the US? [15:04] they started late... good now i don't feel as bad... haven't listened in a long time, so wanted to catch as much as I can [15:04] huh? [15:05] oh [15:06] Christianity has been largely neutered in the West, thankfully [15:06] teenager are a pain in the arse though [15:07] not neutered enough [15:07] no [15:07] i'm in boston [15:07] Hmm... how do they justify that... the bible does the same thing [15:07] and nagging wives - proverbs has it right when it says put them on the roof [15:08] i just thought it started at 3 central [15:08] my bad [15:08] anything in the bible about neighbor's dog shitting on my peoperty? [15:08] probably not [15:08] property... [15:08] lol [15:08] of course there is rude [15:08] god finally recieved treatment for his depression [15:09] lol [15:09] everything is in there - you just have to look and believe [15:09] does gawd take one of those pills I see advertised on TV? [15:09] * hookem has quit IRC [15:09] Hey, Gawd! Apply directly to the forehead [15:09] it appears that he is on prozac now, being god he can take it long before it was invented [15:10] Lord Prozac [15:10] Sad..but true [15:10] there is a donwside to permanent existance. [15:10] makes sense not to make that legal [15:10] erosion? entropy? [15:11] second world? [15:11] two downsides that entro to me [15:11] alternate universe? [15:12] does the bible say much about drugs? [15:13] pro-drinking [15:13] just the consumption of etoh [15:13] damn, so my tequila makes me a sinner? well, F*%&#$K me [15:13] jesus turned water into wine [15:13] I turned tequila into piss, so the fuck what [15:13] cool trick, I can do that too with some sugar, water and yeast [15:13] just took me longer is all [15:14] ha [15:14] ankle? [15:14] abandoned meat? [15:14] oh i disagree [15:14] i love the cankles [15:17] I wish my highschool girlfriend had given me a car, even if it was a gas-guzzler [15:17] lol [15:17] * barnetto has quit IRC (barnetto) [15:18] talented blowjobs from talented people [15:18] going to jail for giving someone a car...only in the states [15:18] I have a buddy who had the same thing happen to him [15:18] he is about the nicest guy ever working on his PhD in Physics [15:18] damn [15:18] A xian couple gave me a car last year, I still drive it. [15:18] no one ever gave me a car [15:18] he cant get a job at a govt labs because he has a felony conviction [15:19] there was an extra factor in the underage sex case - it was georgia, the guy was black and the girl was white [15:19] They felt sorry for me, my old car was a 1976 rust bucket [15:20] Not as bad, but I have a friend who smokes pot and he cannot get hired at a place that does drug testing [15:20] can't he just stop for a month? [15:20] and a LOT of places drug test now [15:20] it's not like a bong is attached to his mouth [15:20] I get drug tested whenever I work for an oil company. [15:20] isn't that the whole point of drug testing? [15:20] He smokes because his migraines (sp?) are killer and only pot helps [15:21] ah [15:21] oic [15:21] so he uses medicinal marijuana? [15:21] He's tried every pill in the book but pot is the best [15:21] Not exactly [15:21] and i assume he doesn't live in california? [15:21] He gets his stuff elsewhere [15:21] IN california [15:22] I do the same thing for geting wasted - I have tried every pill i n the book but pot works best [15:22] except for E [15:22] can't he get a pot card? [15:22] He doesn';t want to be bothered [15:22] except when you get nailed by a car [15:22] Well, he is perfectly functional [15:23] surprise surprise [15:23] I know another guy who went through school -- straight A student -- smoked pot all the time [15:23] sounds about right [15:23] He works hard, long hours, commutes [15:23] That sounds like me in high school [15:23] That is why pot should be legalized [15:24] lots of people like that in high school [15:24] Pottersville? From It's a Wonderful Life? [15:24] yeah, more now then when I went [15:24] I took the name "High" school literaly. [15:24] No, NJ, [15:24] "It's a Wonderful Spliff" [15:25] ha [15:25] Starring Jimmy Toke-me-up Stewart [15:26] Bee prepared [15:26] i'll bee back [15:26] bee autiful [15:26] time to make a bee line [15:26] bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb [15:27] Where is everyone here from? Iowa here. [15:27] buzz off with your silly bee jokes [15:27] umhm [15:27] We're all from Iowa. [15:27] LA, California [15:27] Edmonton, Alberta [15:27] Wellington, New Zealand [15:27] up noth, eh? [15:27] down south, eh? [15:27] you betcha, eh [15:27] we cover the earth [15:27] eh [15:28] * NeutronJack writes in what's-his-name. [15:28] some say I do but I am trying to lose weight [15:28] ah [15:29] one, Star Jones says she'd never vote for an atheist [15:29] Matt could run my office [15:29] so Matt, you lost her vote [15:29] it's af**king mess [15:29] worse, two, she'd sit on you [15:30] I ca make 4 leaf clovers, just rip one of the leaves and waint for a few weeks [15:30] Edmonton -- about winter time for you [15:30] no snow yet [15:30] I just lost the audio. [15:30] yeah, but those oil fields are getting a bit cold these days [15:30] I lost my keys [15:31] oops audio just dropped [15:31] stream still up [15:31] oooh and audio [15:31] another bee? [15:31] Yes, at 1h20 :-( [15:31] 2 bees [15:31] just lost the audio [15:31] hey guys, your stream is up but you unplugged your mixer or something [15:31] their last words were wooooww [15:31] Matt tripped over the cables again [15:32] the bees must be attacking! [15:32] It was exactly at the half hour btw [15:32] that last bee that got kicked out was pissed. [15:32] hope they ain;t those afrikanized bees [15:32] He went to get his friends. [15:32] I'm thinking something in the mix down got fried [15:33] we're still recording and we're trying to find out why you can't hear anything [15:33] All audio seems to be working [15:33] there we go [15:33] still recieving a feed but no audio [15:33] now, wait for that 90 second delay to kick in [15:34] maybe we all went deaf? [15:34] i have audio now. [15:34] * NeutronJack has audio! [15:34] ooohhh back ground noise [15:34] yea [15:34] Got sound again [15:34] got it [15:34] got it [15:35] 4 minutes! [15:35] microsoft software? [15:35] umhm [15:36] winblows [15:36] microsoft does not have customers, it has victims [15:36] heh [15:36] given my experience working at the Apple Store, that reads right [15:40] when some one says I am praying for you i say...F*&k off dickhead [15:40] thats not very nice [15:40] so do they then say, Dear Gawwd, please let the Dickhead fuck off oh lord in Jeebus' name amen? [15:41] lol [15:41] after all, it would be a proper christian response,no? [15:42] udder crap? like on a cow? [15:42] oh Utter [15:43] Impractical Deities R Us [15:43] Matt, one could make the argument from the Catholic perspective that penance is part of God's forgiveness process [15:43] Gawd has a big penance, or so I've heard [15:44] a noodly one? [15:45] bent in the middle. Me not see me only hear rumor [15:48] the purpose of the system -- churches, religions -- is to suck out money to support an outdated tribal structure [15:48] and to pick up chicks [15:49] well [15:49] why does god need so much money? [15:49] maybe that too if their brains aren't completely liquified [15:49] gawd is a crappy budgeteer [15:49] Gawd is for shit when using excel [15:50] he needs a lot cos it makes him feel like we love him [15:50] gawd suffers from a shot sheeted spread sheet [15:50] * stephen has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.8/2007102213]) [15:50] short [15:50] i would love you too if you gave me lots of money [15:50] damn my arthritis [15:51] I would even call and thank you... god never does that [15:51] can't type for shit short sheet etc [15:51] pie us? [15:51] i used to watch Jerry Falwell and time how long before he requested money, 17 seconds was his record. [15:52] for the longest time he waited? [15:52] heh [15:52] * Dave63 has joined #nonprophets [15:52] * Dave63_2 has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [15:53] I only watch the farting preachers [15:53] the shortest time before he made the push for bucks, it average about 90 seconds [15:53] all on you tube by now I'm sure [15:53] this was almost 30 years ago. [15:53] yeah, but still worth a laugh [15:54]