Session Start: Sat Jun 30 12:19:19 2007 Session Ident: #nonprophets [12:19] * Now talking in #nonprophets [12:19] * Topic is 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, June 30th, 2007! at 3:00pm eastern (19:00 UTC) on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes.' [12:19] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Jun 16 15:39:02 [12:19] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets * Retrieving #nonprophets modes... [12:20] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! [12:20] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! (Non-Prophets)' [12:38] * Cardinal has joined #nonprophets [12:38] hello [12:38] * Cardinal has left #nonprophets [13:00] * ChristOnIce has joined #nonprophets [13:17] * rudeboy has joined #nonprophets [13:18] * Aerik has joined #nonprophets [13:18] All right. So, did everyone get an iPhone? [13:18] Hello! [13:18] I kid; I kid. [13:18] Good morning (for about 40 more minutes here ) all [13:19] I'm right that today's a show day, right? [13:19] * rudeboy is listening to luxuria music [13:19] Yeah, today is show day [13:20] yay! [13:20] * Aerik is listening to the latest Skeptics Guide to the Universe, a good warm up [13:22] * rudeboy is resaerching DVD disk information [13:23] I wonder if possummomma is gonna show up [13:23] She had to get a cat scan for her migraines and had a sort of hallucination [13:23] hm. did she hallucinate cats? [13:23] http://possummomma.blogspot.com/2007/06/my-religious-experience.html [13:24] CT scan* [13:24] I expect she'll be here. [13:24] yeah, I do know what it is. making a little joke there [13:25] * nullifidian has joined #nonprophets [13:25] evening all :) [13:26] good day [13:26] Hey null [13:26] it is a show day, isn't it? [13:26] yes [13:26] hi Aerik [13:26] grand :) [13:26] when youeat a big lunch, do you become a fullinidian? [13:27] if i answer that, i might incriminate myself ;-) [13:27] that would be true if it's lunch with several pints [13:28] now I'm thirsty. Don't think about beer. DOn't think about beer.... [13:28] it wouldn't be lunch otherwise [13:29] how is everyone today? [13:29] I am well. [13:29] good to hear [13:29] yourself? [13:29] a dose of the 'flu, but ok otherwise [13:30] * nullifidian snuffles [13:31] A few pints of the old lager and those snuffles will miraculously disappear! [13:31] that's the plan ;-) [13:31] Take it from an old viking who has a passion for tequila. [13:32] * nullifidian concurs [13:32] * Reviis has joined #nonprophets [13:32] * Reviis has left #nonprophets [13:32] oh man, the mods at BAUTforum.com are becoming almost as retarded as the ones at IIDB.org [13:32] hm. blew through here without a word [13:32] I got a warning, because "dumping on creationists the way you did was kind of cheap" [13:32] tell him you'll charge more next time [13:33] well, they do fish themselves up and jump in the barrel [13:33] or were you using the term "dumping" in a more literal sense? [13:34] that was the mod's words [13:34] and I actually did send that reply, btw. [13:34] so they can't take criticism? [13:34] gee, how beneficial for them [13:35] brb -- have to go downstairs for una momento [13:42] * JEdens has joined #nonprophets [13:42] howdy [13:42] hi [13:43] Hey jedens [13:47] Afternoon all. [13:47] howdy [13:48] Stream is live, old Janes Addiction playing [13:48] yup [13:48] Denis isn't here yet...and I've got to sort through some listener mail. Assuming he arrives any minute, we should start nearly on time. [13:49] still 12 mins yet [13:49] until, um, whatever time is local time :) [13:49] AFK for a few [13:50] I forgot what AFK means [13:50] away from keys [13:50] ah [13:50] Hi NP, thanks for putting the upcoming airings on your page. [13:51] oh yeah, that's handy [13:52] i was working from home yesterday, fell asleep in the afternoon, then work up feeling miffed that i'd missed the show [13:52] and it was still friday [13:52] i get confused easily [13:52] * rudeboy switches over from luxuria to non-prophets live stream [13:53] What do you get if you cross a sheep with a mountaineer? [13:53] what? [13:53] dunno [13:53] interesting going from Stu Phillips to Jane's addiction in one click [13:53] You can't -- a mountaineer is a scalar. [13:53] Denis is here...talking over the schedule [13:53] lol [13:53] oh...that is really bad [13:54] lol [13:54] i'm just ashamed that i got that [13:54] Jedens...adding the schedule was Don Bakers idea...I love it, and I'm glad it proved useful to others [13:54] pulled the wool over me ... [13:54] b;dum tish [13:54] haha [13:55] he added with a sheepish grin [13:55] groan! [13:55] I saw the "Pineapples are Christian's horror story" cip on YouTube today. Too funny! [13:55] not seen that [13:56] link us [13:56] got a link? [13:56] hang on [13:56] I have a Dodge, not a link.... [13:56] o...k... [13:56] :P [13:56] as in lincoln [13:56] over stretched that one [13:56] what's a lincoln? [13:57] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJS91g_LehY [13:57] ta JEdens [13:57] It's... a car brand... [13:57] a town car [13:57] oh [13:57] right [13:57] apparently jeep cherokees burn rather well [13:58] What have I started XD [13:58] any automobile will burn, given the proper preparations... [13:58] video by Nick Gisburne - he sounds British [13:58] oh yes, i have seen that [13:58] You don't know about NIck Gisburne? [13:58] funny as hell :) [13:58] first time I've ever seen him [13:59] yes, very funny [13:59] lol [13:59] Nick Gisburne is just about the most popular atheist youtube member EVER. made especially popular when his account was deleted for a simple video scrolling passes from teh Quran when muslims flagged it as hate speech [13:59] rude: like filling with petrol and driving into an airport terminal? [13:59] Aerik I'm going to have to look for his stuff [14:00] do you all have dead air? [14:00] yup [14:00] yes [14:00] 'kay [14:00] * scarlett75 has joined #nonprophets [14:00] hey scarlett [14:00] hello [14:00] scarlett! [14:00] hey, lady S [14:01] everybody hug scarlett, cure her migraines [14:01] nullif - gotta say, that car into airplane terminal was just sort of lame. Call that terrorism, cause I don't... [14:01] hey scarlettt [14:01] no, we're 0/3 over the past couple of days [14:01] they're so crap these new ones [14:01] * Tate has joined #nonprophets [14:02] I have no sound... [14:02] the bad part, jedens, is that the car bomb thing recently could not have been al qaida, no matter whatn speculative journalists suggest. The "bomb" was missing an oxidizer. it could never have detonated. It was a pre-pubescent boy's dream of a car bomb. [14:02] me neither [14:02] stream is up but no audio at the moment. [14:02] nobody has sound. [14:02] ok [14:02] oh [14:02] gooood [14:02] * rudeboy is downloading the you tube video of the banana [14:02] * Nate_Wisconsin has joined #nonprophets [14:02] too good to pass up [14:02] the IRA would be ashamed to do a a stunt that lame, I bet [14:02] ugh, its painful to watch [14:03] * Dave63 has joined #nonprophets [14:03] yeah [14:03] I loved the way Nick used the sex innuendo with the banana and his fingers, then said "it has a slip-proof surface" and dropped it and said "shit!" [14:03] heh [14:03] Nick Ginsburg? [14:03] Aerik, heh, he did a few rude things in a low-key way [14:03] I'd have been funnier had he put a condom on it [14:03] lol [14:04] lol [14:04] bananas and condoms, always funny. [14:04] maybe he ran out [14:04] oh yeah, he has to be getting all the atheist sex he can handle dont you think [14:04] * arensb has joined #nonprophets [14:04] lucky for some... [14:04] scarlett, yep I saw Nick Ginsburne's bananan/pineapple video on you tube for the first time today and was commenting on it earlier [14:05] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJS91g_LehY scarlett [14:05] it gives the rest of us atheists hope that someone is getting some [14:05] lol [14:05] nullif, you should come to the States, a British accent is like an aphrodisiac over here [14:05] i'd love to come over in september [14:06] but i fail at that too [14:06] British accent isn't all its cracked up to be [14:06] Ok....get ready! [14:06] woo! [14:06] We're fixin-ta-start [14:06] * rudeboy prepares [14:06] * nullifidian is set... [14:06] * Tate explodes [14:06] * [14:06] we're a chompin' at the bit, and a ready to git [14:06] * Dave63_2 has joined #nonprophets [14:06] * ready [14:06] * JEdens ready [14:06] * Dave63 has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [14:06] ah, crap, my neighbor's fucking dog shit on my lawn again. [14:07] shoot the neighbour [14:07] Scoop it up with a newspaper you don't need then leave it on your neighbor's front step [14:07] or the dog [14:07] put them both on a leash [14:07] Wow Rude, two expletives in one sentence... :) [14:07] ok [14:07] I hear stuff! [14:07] I get better [14:07] and...now I dont [14:07] somebody said "uh.. ok" [14:07] Dang, problems playing the live stream. Does it play in Realplayer? My version may be out of date. [14:07] fook! [14:07] here we go [14:08] * Tate dances [14:08] my ears popped! [14:08] MUSAK [14:08] yay! [14:08] this is my first time of listening live... [14:08] Nate: use itunes or winamp [14:08] I have finally corrected my self destructive behavior [14:08] what fun is that? [14:08] thanks rudeboy [14:08] Tate...you're a NP Virgin? [14:09] http://nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls [14:09] wooooot [14:09] Im a pod girl [14:09] quick, get the curry powder! [14:09] lol [14:09] Nullif is trying to curry favors [14:09] lol [14:09] b'dum ching! [14:09] hmmm, I don't seem to be hearing this in stereo [14:09] * rudeboy 's archive of jokes. Free for the asking [14:10] Yay Big Bang [14:10] yay other stuff! [14:10] >_O oh no, I smell free will bashing [14:10] I hear it out of the right speaker [14:10] the dog and duck? [14:10] non-prophets -- for me the stream seems like it's in mono, but bouncing from left to right [14:10] same here, right speaker [14:10] I am only hearing one side too, oddly [14:10] same [14:11] lol [14:11] Denis, switch that mono-stereo switch to stereo please [14:11] Oh god... free will v determinism - Everybody run! [14:11] * Tate screams and hides [14:11] I'm determined to have free will. Or someone will have to free will if he can;t free himself.... [14:11] * JEdens would run, but I am fated to stay [14:12] oh noes, fan suggestions [14:12] I love determinism! [14:12] We can't be blamed for listening to this show, we have no free will [14:12] your sound is normally fine, just oddly mucked today [14:12] dennett's recent lecture on same was interesting [14:12] 9 [14:13] i'm waiting for the podcast to re-watch/listen to it [14:13] oh that's no fun [14:13] you're not gonna get what we're talking about [14:14] Some of the people who ARE technical are saying that... [14:14] lol [14:14] I've had no audio here for 13 minutes. I guess I'll wait for the podcast, too. [14:14] restart the stream [14:14] oh yeah, that's a good choice [14:14] Dave, what program are you using? [14:14] I subscribe to the rss feed, so I'll get the podcast anyways [14:15] I went to http://nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000/ and it starts up Winamp. [14:15] Pass the hat and buy PZ Meyers a plane ticket down to Austin :-) [14:16] winamp shoudl play it [14:16] use play URL or open URL [14:16] whatever it's called [14:16] press the button that says "add URL: [14:16] in winamp be more specific. http://nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls [14:16] paste the .PLS file into the box and click it. Double click the URl when it appears in the playlist [14:17] when you use "play url" it plays automatically [14:17] um hm [14:17] 4 no live show? Blasphemy! [14:17] I got audio now. I refreshed Internet Explorer and also restarted Winamp. [14:17] Alternately, open -a itunes http://nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls [14:17] Blas my pheme! [14:17] Dang right [14:17] argh! [14:17] yeah, we do! [14:17] It's my first time in the live audience! Don't ditch me! [14:18] I'm in the live audience? Where's the "Applause" sign? [14:18] so...anyone else from england here? [14:18] Did Matt just say "Keep on truckin'"? [14:18] lol [14:18] it's a virtual applause sign [14:18] i'm in scotland [14:18] hahaha oh, such an american shitty phrase [14:18] it only appears when one of the hosts says ASSHAT [14:18] * Tate waves [14:18] * nullifidian waves back [14:18] Get R Dun Matt! And Keep on Truckin'! [14:19] I want to global warm my neighbor's dog. [14:19] Cleaning up after his little land mines of joy [14:19] Why am I too lame to figure out how to talk in colors? I wish I was smarter. [14:19] doggy poop generates methane [14:19] brb, getting a cuppa tea [14:19] yes, and flies [14:20] can you catch a buzz off of dog poop methane? [14:20] seriously, rudeboy, scoop it up with a cone-shaped rolled up newspaper, then fling it at your neighbor's house like you're on teh LaCrosse team [14:20] lol [14:20] then they'll get all lacrosse at me [14:20] * Aerik groans [14:20] Last time I lined all the little bombs along their drivewa, just to make the point [14:20] is the chatroom really talking about flinging poo? [14:20] scoop it up in a cone, then offer it to your neighbor as icecream [14:21] evidently, my point wasn't strong enough [14:21] http://pooflingers.blogspot.com/ -- this guy can help [14:21] "Biological life form"? As opposed to the other kind of life form? [14:21] some of us are eating lunch [14:21] oh boy... [14:21] 4 What kind of life form isn't biological? [14:21] heehee [14:21] my sister [14:21] lol [14:21] she's a freak of nature [14:21] Second Life life forms [14:21] artificial life forms. Like R2D2...not biological. [14:21] stereo [14:22] 4 hooray! [14:22] ((((( In stereo ))))) [14:22] that's artificial vs. natural, nate [14:22] yep [14:22] Aerik.... save the red for emergencies. ;) [14:22] save red for the rapture [14:22] Sorry, I'm a grammar cop and an inveterate nitpicker. [14:22] (((( where available )))) [14:23] 15color test [14:23] (c) Dolby [14:23] I hate that one too [14:23] I just picked a nit out of my neck. Gotta put this nitpick under the glass [14:23] irregardless is my litmus test for people - if they say it, I know they're making shit up [14:23] irregardless, love that one [14:23] AND "DETHAW". I hate that word. [14:23] 3Nukular [14:23] I regard less irre, ya know [14:23] dethaw...?? [14:23] lol [14:24] >_< [14:24] Why are "flammable" and "inflammable" synonyms? [14:24] Another non-word, misunderestimate -- as if underestimating isn't already a mistake [14:24] is that like heating something up? [14:24] Yes, like dethaw the frozen hamburger. Maybe only my wife says that. [14:24] that's gerogie bushie's favorite word, misunderestimate [14:24] decider [14:24] tell him to decide this [14:24] deicide [14:25] yep [14:25] you're supposed to grab your crotch when you say that [14:25] lol- Cheney was smoking crack the other night [14:25] egads! [14:25] I did. I huirt myself [14:25] I don't think it's political to aknowledge that Bush is a Curious George. It's fact. [14:25] four branches of government...lol [14:25] that's an insult to curious george. Dubya is not a curious man [14:26] he is a curious specimen of a monkey [14:26] though he does look like a simmian [14:26] rudeboy - Fetal Alchohol Syndrome [14:26] if killing to save lives is unethical, why war? [14:26] If I had a left nut, I'd offer it to Bush to suck [14:26] that and he also looks like alfred E nuwman on mad magazine [14:26] why any medical research? [14:26] lots of dead indians in us history [14:26] Stem cell research doesn't "kill" babies [14:26] * arensb sings "Every Sperm Is Sacred" [14:26] its all dangerous at some level [14:26] but Bush can do something simmians can't, which is to purse his lips so hard they seem way too small than should be anatomically possible [14:27] it kills eight cells.... there are more cells in a booger [14:27] I lose more cells when I scratch my nuts [14:27] I asked Booger about that. He agreed [14:27] brazil? [14:27] Its like cutting off your arm in order to save eight cells on your pinkie fingernail. [14:27] or the lint in my bellybutton [14:27] Isn't it just Federal Funding of fetal cells that was vetoed, though [14:27] yeah. [14:29] gee, old Newtie Gingrich says we have "freedom OF religion but NOT freedom FROM religion" if you believe that arrogant gasbag... [14:29] Newt bites [14:29] idiot [14:30] they always say that until it's a Muslim imposing their beliefs on christians [14:30] creeping Sharia [14:30] or christians imposing their beliefs on other christians. [14:31] *sigh* [14:32] Executive Branch has assumed WAY too much non-Constitutional power over the base 75 years [14:32] past 75 years [14:33] especially in the past 7.5 [14:33] yep [14:33] You can view that in several time scales [14:33] Some argue it started with Reagan [14:33] Some say it goes back to the days of the robber barons [14:34] Lack of standing for taxpayers on spending policies is not new case law. It would be a mess if we granted standing for any taxpayer. [14:34] * Targetta has joined #nonprophets [14:34] HI all. [14:34] Taxpayers should have standing when it comes to policies that violate their rights [14:34] hi targ [14:35] We aren't talking about people just not wanting to pay for something [14:35] but bush -- well, actually cheney is the real executive here, let's face it -- is turning the government into a corporate top-down machine. [14:36] The rule on standing is that you need to show an actual injury to yourself that is more particularlized than just an injury to all taxpayers. [14:36] I know what the rules on standing are. I'm saying that they are inadequate [14:36] and at the whim of the judge [14:36] you can't show an "injury" to the state? [14:37] The best bet for standing is to get a group that loses a contract to faith based organizations to sue [14:38] presidents aren't supposed to be making laws, really [14:38] nope, just execute what Congress passes [14:39] lol [14:39] give em an inch, that's sodomy [14:39] I love it [14:40] or Greg Palast's "No CHild's behind left" [14:40] hitch goes with that one too [14:40] gregpalast.com [14:40] an american journalist who had to go to england to tell the truth [14:40] War on Abstract Nouns [14:41] off for a sec [14:41] get a pint for me [14:42] back [14:43] I'm enjoying nick gisburne's site [14:43] Mark Hoofnagle really kicked some ass on this issue [14:43] I love the blog.... "s it forbidden to shit towards Mecca?" [14:44] Is it forbidden to shit towards Mecca? [14:44] It comes as no surprise that many great scholars of Islam have looked deep into this dark and murky subject, poked it with the stick of truth, and trod on it with the sandle of enlightenment. [14:45] But mostly they seem to have looked in the hadith and read about Mohammed's numerous trips to the toilet, before coming up with some varied, often conflicting, opinions. [14:45] On the one hand, if there's a wall between you and the holiest place in Islam, some say it's okay to squeeze one out. [14:45] 4 There are plenty of child custody cases where parents are discriminated against for atheism, and yes, there are assaults based on the attackers' resent ment of his victims' nontheism [14:45] there was a muslim here who got a council house a good few years ago, and got the council to pay �15k to remodel his bathroom so that he didn't shit towards mecca [14:45] oops, I meant to bold that, not red [14:46] what about peeing - that takes out two directions! [14:46] But if you're in a field, with Allah's cool breeze caressing your straining cheek muscles, it's best to point your fudge tunnel at a tangent to the Kaaba (the black, cube-like building in Mecca). [14:46] lmao [14:46] so my question is, why should civil rights issues only be relegated to issues of legislation, rather than what happens in the judiciary in situations like child custody cases? [14:46] To be safe, the general opinion seems to be that, wherever you are, you should never syphon the python either facing directly towards Mecca, or indeed facing away. Identical rules apply for 'number twos', or 'taking the kids to the pool' as we call it in these parts. [14:47] lol syphon the python [14:47] we have dropping the kids off at the pool too [14:47] kids at pool, heh [14:47] drain the main vein, straining the greens [14:47] Hey I am in new zealand - If i shit downwards, and it is hard not to, I am probably shitting directly on mecca [14:48] draining the lizard... [14:48] good for you targ :) [14:48] go NZ [14:48] my portal faces north, so I guess I'm okay [14:48] evry time - I am the best atheist woohoo [14:48] lol [14:49] atheists can join the Masons either ... don't know why one would want to, though [14:49] Can't join the Masons [14:49] or the boy sprouts [14:49] stupid keyboard [14:50] yeah but atheists look smart [14:50] we can't paste pictures in here can we...? [14:50]