Session Start: Sat Nov 04 12:54:05 2006 Session Ident: #nonprophets [12:54] * Now talking in #nonprophets [12:54] * Topic is 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, November 4th, 2006! at 3:00pm eastern (19:00 UTC) on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes.' [12:54] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Oct 21 14:46:16 [12:54] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [12:54] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! [12:54] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! (Non-Prophets)' [12:57] * TedHaggardsShame is a computer geek [12:58] * lucifurby has joined #nonprophets [12:59] I'm going to try to save the stream to file as I listen to it (I'm playing with streamripper), so just in case there is some error with your copy I *may* have a copy here. I'll keep it till the podcast is out. [12:59] * atxcats has joined #nonprophets [12:59] Sounds good, thanks! [12:59] good morning [12:59] afternoon, rather [12:59] I'll be on a few seconds extra delay, but I don't think it really matters... [13:00] moatse atxcats [13:00] As slow as I am to respond to chat...probably not. :) [13:00] Hola cats [13:00] hi, y'all! [13:00] lots of schadenfreude material in the news today [13:00] or this week, rather [13:00] Is it time to start drinking? [13:01] ha tedhaggard! is that rudeboy? [13:01] Oh craps, I haven't got any booze. [13:01] Yeah, I've been walking around with a very nice grin for quite a while now. [13:01] me neither -- i'll be cyberdrinking today [13:01] No, not rudeboy [13:01] I've been smiling since Thursday night [13:02] I'm pretty sure that if one more conservative anti-gay marriage guy turns out to be gay, we get a prize or something. [13:02] There are odds for it in Vegas [13:03] A nice payoff if you can pick the closet he comes out of [13:03] We should rename the US, "Backwardland". We've got closet gays opposing gay rights...backward. We've got folks fighting to eliminate good science and move us "backward" toward the dark ages. And I'm pretty sure Ted Haggard's favorite position is...um...backward [13:04] Broke Back Pastor [13:04] and what about the administration putting up sensitive nuclear info on a web site. [13:04] lol, ted haggardsshame! [13:04] Bill Maher was all over him last night. [13:05] "Yeah, cause methamphetimines are exactly what you want when you go for your relaxing massage." [13:05] My favorite alternate headline was "Sermon on the Mount-Him" [13:05] I saw the headline just as I was about to go to sleep a few nights ago (about Haggard). I laughed so much I was worried I'd wake the neighbors. [13:05] oh, bet that was good -- was it on his (Maher) show? i can catch a repeat then [13:05] lol TedHaggardsShame ! [13:06] Yes, atx...on Bill's show [13:06] my nephew goes to haggard's church -- i'm checking out his friend's myspace comments for their reaction -- so far just "sad and scary" [13:06] blow rentboys not, lest ye be blown [13:06] Was a pretty good show and I'll be talking about a few points Bill made on more than one issue [13:07] It's going to be hard not gloat too much tonight... [13:07] Do not covet they neighbor's ass, buy it, with a little speed. [13:07] Ted: "i bought the amphetamines, but i threw them away, because using them would be wrong" Haggard [13:07] atxcats: no! he didn't say that did he?! [13:07] yes [13:07] yes, library juice! [13:08] HAHA! I haven't seen much in the way of responses over here in the UK. Just the original story. [13:08] I'll be ripping Ted a new one (much like his prostitute friend) [13:08] It did make the TV news here, but not as a major item. [13:08] they put a camera in his face and that's what he said [13:08] AFK a bit...gonna finish getting stuff ready [13:08] are you in college, libraryjuice? [13:08] atxcats: They were pointing it at the wrong end of him - the other end seems a lot more honest. [13:08] atxcats: nah. [13:08] ha, lj! [13:09] It's a curious world when I find myself considering the word of a prostitute WAY more reliable than a pastor's. [13:09] lj -- i was asking because i know some atheist brits on FaceBook [13:10] you could just see how he was squirming and lying when he said that [13:10] Ah. I don't use the social networking sites very much. I have a page on last.fm. [13:11] I guess prostitutes tend to be pretty honest people. It's not something you can easily pretend to yourself your not doing. [13:11] It's a very, erm, in-your-face sort of prefession. [13:11] ha [13:12] I think I might have to go and get some beers. [13:12] haggard said the hotel concierge turned him on to the "masseur" -- the prostitute said that he only advertises in gay newsletters and a concierge would NEVER recommend him [13:13] my husband was singing "schadenfreude" to "Ode to Joy" last night -- it really fits nicely [13:14] am i here an hour early? duh! [13:15] * Goon has joined #nonprophets [13:15] hello hello [13:16] i think i'm here an hour early [13:16] hi goon [13:16] you are, its 2 central, 3 eastern [13:16] where are you at [13:16] atx (austin [13:17] i'm in toronto [13:17] im looking forward to see if they talk about the South Park episode on the show [13:17] i'll be back in a bit [13:17] o [13:17] im gonna stay logged in [13:17] but just wait for the show [13:18] there's a lot to talk about -- ted haggard, US putting nuclear secrets online, south park, yeah, see you in a bit -- library juice went to get beer, i think [13:18] oh, and kent hovind in jail too.... [13:19] forgot about hovind, that too! [13:19] i'm gonna get a glass of wine and some warm clothing. its that time of year for us Ice Socialists. [13:19] :P [13:19] cool [13:19] * rudeboy has joined #nonprophets [13:19] Ted will be on South Park in two weeks [13:20] lol.... haggard... [13:20] rudeboy! Kent hovind, ted haggard, US putting nuke secrets online, south park, what a wealth of subject matter today. [13:20] while you're waiting, you can look at this blasphemous website i made [13:20] yes [13:20] yes [13:21] http://tpotc.ytmnd.com [13:21] My brain is overflowing with all these scandals [13:21] and isn't it interesting that the "right" is trying so desperately to make some demo scandal stick to the news cycle? [13:22] and now they have "pre announced" that Saddam's conviction will occur just hours before the election day [13:22] we're teflon [13:22] gee, can we say, "timing is everything"? [13:22] hadn't heard that about saddam -- why does that not surprise me [13:23] yeah, I've been listening to Mike Malloy [13:23] that is blasphemous, goon. yer going to hades, lol [13:23] tee hee [13:23] should i drink a glass of wine now, or a mexican martini later? [13:24] either one is as good as the other [13:24] what kind of wine goes with oatmeal? [13:24] I prefer the mexican martini [13:24] What the hell, just mix 'em together [13:24] heh, got me ther... [13:24] maybe i'll have wine now AND the mx martini later [13:24] with oatmeal, I'd probably whine, where's my bacon and eggs!? [13:24] 13I think Ted's quotes should be in pink [13:25] yes, pink! [13:25] haggard looking pink there [13:25] more like chartreuse (sp?) [13:26] * rudeboy cranks up the pun machine [13:26] damn, this thing need fuel [13:26] got any beer? [13:26] not today, sadly [13:27] but I do have a new resident reptile [13:27] my sympathies. well maybe you'll get a contact high from my cyberdrinking, and what sort of reptile? [13:27] so the beer money is going to food for him [13:27] little baby gopher snake [13:27] that's more important, purina reptile chow [13:27] almost got run over in the middle of the street in front of my house [13:27] purina mice? [13:28] heh [13:28] did you rescue him? [13:28] oh yeah [13:28] I found tewo dead baby gopher snakes just two days earlier [13:28] so the babies are abroad [13:28] sad [13:28] Had I NOT rescued him, he'd have been flattened [13:29] yeah, they don't fare well against the autos [13:29] I stopped the mail truck and after he swung by, two big trucks came roaring behind him [13:29] so I figured. IT's either you becoming a banana peel snake or me tending his needs [13:29] very fortunate for him [13:29] * Targetta has joined #nonprophets [13:29] he's a hearty eater [13:29] hi targetta! [13:29] Hi all [13:30] 'lo [13:30] ah, music on the feed [13:31] Wow Ted is going to get it today! [13:31] my sister in law works in a zoo and they entertain the african ravens by puting mice in a pumpkin and seeing how long it takes them to get to the mice [13:31] yeah, targetta -- and kent hovind, too [13:31] lol [13:31] What has Kent done? [13:31] hence the word, ravenous [13:31] good rudeboy [13:32] yeah, I watch PBS... [13:32] tax fraud, assaulting an investigator, conviction, up to 200+ years [13:32] they had a sepcial on ravens, really good one [13:32] his wife, too [13:32] uh, special [13:32] i love ravens [13:32] we knew what you meant. I misread it as "special" so i didn't even notice, lol [13:33] Through the love of Jesus they will all be forgiven - satan makes you do really bad stuff [13:33] Even had a road runner in my neighbor's yard, but I so rarely see one,, [13:33] yeah, it's all the liberal democrats fault, you know [13:33] It must be nice to not have any responsibility [13:33] i love road runners, too [13:33] 4Ted's latest quote "Has anyone seen my dignity or meth?" [13:33] Ted's in pink today [13:33] lol [13:33] lol [13:33] or red with embarrassment [13:34] I think I might know what will get talked about today. [13:34] * TedHaggardsShame downs an icy cold drink [13:34] Anyone want to run bets on hw many seconds into the show it'll be when Mr Haggards name is first mentioned? [13:34] * TedHaggardsShame downs an icy cold drink [13:34] hovind, haggard, south park, administratin putting nuclear secrets on a website [13:34] I hope the whole crew is there to do the pounding ... so to speak [13:34] 90 seconds [13:35] lol rude [13:35] Do we have some intro music tonight? [13:35] Anyone making some nice shots befroe the show? [13:35] i'm hearing something i used to hear at LaserRock, but i've forgotten -- Genesis? [13:36] I'm joining in sober today. headache [13:36] lol ted [13:36] I just came back from the shops with some beers :D [13:36] and I have stuff that needs doin so my brain needs to be less fuzzy than usual [13:36] Yeah I am sober too - but it is only 8.30am here! [13:36] damn, where are you, Hawaii? [13:37] New Zealand [13:37] Tonga? [13:37] Oh.... lol [13:37] wish I was in Hawaii [13:37] wish I could afford to visit NZ [13:37] I wish I was in New Zealand [13:38] we'll do a house swap [13:38] I'd be up for that, except I don't have a house to swap. [13:38] ah? HOw's that worl? [13:38] work [13:38] haggard said that a hotel conceirge in denver told him about the "masseuse", but the prostitute said that he only advertised in gay mags, and that a hotel conceirge would NEVER refer him to hotel customers. haggard is so lying [13:38] you listening to Malloy, Ax? [13:38] Oh how the mighty have fallen. [13:39] The "escort" also has phone messages from Teddy-poo [13:39] Abandon all Haggards all ye who enter here. [13:39] teddy-poo [13:39] ? [13:39] Ted Haggard [13:39] * rudeboy adds "teddy-poo" to the wikipedia, trademarks the word [13:39] "I'll pick it (meth) up next week [13:39] should give him the benefit of the doubt - maybe he thought it was a kinky woman [13:40] * scarlett75 has joined #nonprophets [13:40] Hey Scarlett! [13:40] scarlett! guess what we're talking about haggart/hovind [13:40] Maybe he wanted a low key colon check-up [13:40] lol [13:40] hear the real juice on this one presented by Mike Malloy -- http://www.whiterosesociety.org/Malloy.html [13:40] rofl [13:40] hello everyone! [13:41] download the November 3rd show and take a listen [13:41] It's at times like this that I find my liberal values don't give me a good enough chance to gloat. I actually don't really think it's such a bad thing to go to prostitutes and take drugs. So long as no coercian is involved (which sadly seems to be the case in a lot of cases). [13:41] well, the real sickness is that haggard is notorious for inculcating very young children into his cult of religious fruitcakes [13:41] 13Would it have been as bad if he didn't have to pay for it? [13:42] I don't think any of us could care less about what he did- it is that HE did it [13:42] If he want to go to visit whores, that's his business. It's a betrayal of his wife if they have an understanding that they are in a monogamous relationship, but that's as far as the immoral stuff goes. The hipocracy is a little sickening, but heh. [13:42] hey Haggart, the pink is tough to read [13:42] 14k [13:42] heh [13:42] BRB mail truck just rolled up [13:42] AFK [13:43] get the snakes outta the way, rudeboy [13:43] TedHaggardsShame: To me I think going to a whore is the same level of betrayal as cheating in any other way. It's deception of the other part of your monogamous relationship, and that's nasty. I personally happen to find the whole prostitution thing a little distasteful, but that's just my opinion. [13:43] oh yeah.... brb [13:43] it's the hypocracy of haggard, and the fact that he is an advisor to bush [13:44] yeah really, atx [13:44] rudeboy: you're so right - the shameless brainwashing of children is the real sickening thing here. [13:44] like my nephew [13:44] 4Agreed, but he puts himself up as a leader and an anti-gay preacher. [13:45] that is the real issue ted [13:45] Yeah, that's extra, topping, deep crust hipocracy. [13:45] you've got to think that Dawkins is somewhere, thinking about Haggart and laughing his ass off [13:45] oh look, some religious nutter stuck some propaganda in my doorseam.... [13:45] I did find something on his website, if it is still there, where he actually backed of a bit on the gay bashing -- I'll see if i can find it -- it surprised me [13:45] But I'm not sure hipocracy is immoral per se. [13:45] let's see what it says... [13:45] great, rudeboy [13:45] * stephen has joined #nonprophets [13:46] oooooh. "The End of False Religion is Near!" is the title [13:46] It makes it hard to trust people, so maybe youo could say it's immoral. [13:46] did we just lost music for nonprof's [13:46] Well, if he goes to prison (I know he won't) he'll be right at home...they don't call it the pokey for nothing. [13:46] exclamation point included [13:46] scarlett75: I'd love to hear Dawkin's response to this. [13:46] it's "a worldwide message" [13:46] is it JW literature? [13:46] But I think he'd be wise to say nothing. [13:46] ah, Watchtower..... of course [13:46] fucking ashol;es. [13:47] I slammed the door on them years ago [13:47] they didn't try to sell it to you? [13:47] the little pricks just don't learn their lesson [13:47] Oh yeah, no music. I didn't even notice! [13:47] well, this is just a thin paper foldout [13:47] oh yeah, I think Dawkins will let it go, but he MUST be walking with more spring in his step after Haggart threw him off his church grounds for calling his children animals. ;) [13:47] rudeboy: tell them you're Jewish. They'll never come back. [13:48] Well, they must've left it when I was in the shower this morning [13:48] rudeboy: They're a pretty anti-semitic bunch. [13:48] doesn't surprise me [13:48] I should have ansered the door in my robe holdiong one of my snakes [13:48] "Here, kiss him" [13:48] No sound at all on the stream... [13:48] I feel like we're observing radio silence for the death of Haggart's dignity [13:48] "Kiss my snake on the lips and then present to me your bible babble [13:48] All religions seem to hate or at least distrust every other religion, so how are the JW's different? [13:48] Music is evil anyway [13:49] only disco [13:49] lol scarlett75 [13:49] Music = the OTHER devil's playgournd [13:49] I keep hearing little tapping noises [13:49] LOL [13:49] * libraryjuice excitedly waits for his beer to cool down. [13:49] I'm reading this screed... [13:49] get a load of this... [13:50] "How WIll False Religion End?" [13:50] I'm getting nothing here. [13:50] "A harlot is sitting on the back of a fearsome beast [13:50] me, neither ... just tapping noises [13:50] "The beast has seven heads and ten horns" [13:50] Must be a happy harlot [13:50] not even any tapping here. [13:50] oh Rude - I got that one in my letterbox this week too! [13:50] ten horns? So...he's a horny beast [13:50] um hm [13:51] the JW's love me they come over most Sundays [13:51] library: the tapping must be the poltergeists in my head, then. ;) [13:51] into the circular file it goes [13:51] scarlett75: don't listen to the voices! [13:51] along with my snail spam [13:51] We need to come up with a pamphlet to give THEM when they show up on the doorstep. [13:51] no snakes in the streets this morning, though the temperature outside is perfect for them [13:51] haggad said this in a Denver post interview, some time after 2003: ""I believe the church has to teach against immorality, but I don't believe it's the role of the state to spend money to find out what consenting adults do in their bedrooms and then haul them off to jail," Haggard said. [13:51] haggard [13:51] TedHaggardsShame: That's a great idea. [13:52] gee, ted got one right [13:52] is it haggard? or Haggart? [13:52] good idea tedh -- (pamphlet to give THEM) [13:52] sorry I've been spelling it wrong [13:52] yeah, door to door atheism flyering [13:52] Let's get the wiki together for ideas and get it printed [13:52] evangelical atheism, yeah [13:53] evangelical atheism, lol [13:53] There's an infidel guy show with an ex-JW. Can't remember the details, but he says what it was that tipped him off that they were a cult... maybe worth listening before making up a pamphlet. [13:53] i finally remembered to tivo house, but I haven't had a chance to watch this weeks. figure i'll get the earlier eps. on re-runs [13:53] * blat has joined #nonprophets [13:53] splat, blat! [13:54] We'll call it the Blind Watchtower or something [13:54] heh heh [13:54] * zippyapparition has joined #nonprophets [13:54] zippy! [13:54] I thikn there's a LaTeX output thingy for Mediawiki, which means we'll be able to make a very nice printed version of whetever we put together. [13:54] HI [13:54] "Hello, we're missionaries from the church of free and rational thought. Would you care for us to totally rock your world now or later? What would be a good time for us to come back and debunk your entire philosophy?" [13:54] lol [13:54] hi zip [13:54] love it, scarlett! [13:54] works for me [13:54] You could ask for their home address so you could come over later. [13:54] exactly [13:55] 5 mins [13:55] anyone hear anything? I just reconnected. ALl I get is slight buzz in left ear. [13:55] * rudeboy checks the rest of his mail [13:55] * TedHaggardsShame downs an icy cold drink [13:55] I have silence [13:55] nothing here yet [13:55] can't hear [13:55] ok, long as it's not just me. [13:56] heh, just a smart and final flyer [13:56] one of these days, the Non-Prophets are just going to hold a smoke detector next to the mic and run a test mode: watch us all jump [13:56] ouch, that would be very mean. [13:56] buy ten turkeys, get ten percent off.... \ [13:56] ten turkeys!? [13:57] that's what it says [13:57] * MJ has joined #nonprophets [13:57] that's hardly a great bargain [13:57] upto 14 [13:57] Wouldn't that really be buy 9 get 1 free? [13:57] oh. music [13:57] music cue [13:57] who the fuck needs ten turkeys though? [13:58] * libraryjuice returns with a beer. [13:58] exactly [13:58] mmmm [13:58] asshats [13:58] * libraryjuice gulps [13:58] well [13:58] lol [13:58] that depends. [13:58] How big are the turkeys? [13:58] If they are like half pound turkeys [13:58] only if you're wearing them... [13:58] then this house hold would need them... [13:58] ooh, noise! [13:58] I mean, I guess if a guy can't get his hands on a breast anywhere else....then ten turkeys would keep him happy for a while... [13:58] i can hear again -- it's a miracle! [13:58] I got sound now. [13:59] don't take your shoes off. [13:59] Not going to stay long? [13:59] oops, pre show chatter [13:59] aaawww [13:59] asshats [13:59] my shoes were already off [13:59] I'm recording now [14:00] 3atxcats returns with oatmeal & a little glass of pinot noir [14:00] "Hello darkness my old friend.... [14:00] * paulw has joined #nonprophets [14:00] breakfast of champions [14:00] listen. To the sounds. of silence. [14:00] paul! [14:00] saul! [14:00] paul is dead [14:00] lol [14:00] I reaped his soul [14:00] i remember that. i was so convinced [14:00] Breakfast of Champions is an amazing book. [14:00] well then this could get awkward [14:00] cuz he just signed in [14:01] does anyone hear anything yet? [14:01] no [14:01] not I [14:01] well, it wouldn't be awkward if this were an episode of dead like me [14:01] yeah, but show was kinda lame [14:01] but that* [14:01] * paulw has quit IRC (Client exited) [14:01] no! [14:01] I disagree [14:01] "Dead Like Me" Sounds like a self-help title [14:01] bye paul [14:01] Dead Like Me was great good fun [14:02] They should allow skype call-ins to the Atheist Experience. [14:02] oooh, something very quiet there. A cackle. [14:02] i'm going through withdrawal [14:02] meh, i didn't like the idea that the old guy was comfterable with being ordered around weithout any reason [14:02] * libraryjuice whistles a tune. [14:02] * libraryjuice raps fingers. [14:02] What's going on? [14:02] anyone hear anything on the feed yet [14:02] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets The Non-Prophets is LIVE at http://www.nonprophetsradio.com. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for show information. [14:02] * ChanServ changes topic to 'The Non-Prophets is LIVE at http://www.nonprophetsradio.com. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for show information. (Non-Prophets)' [14:02] * TedHaggardsShame downs an icy cold drink [14:02] Starting... [14:02] Goon: nope [14:03] Woohoo [14:03] here we go [14:03] what [14:03] I hear nada [14:03] nada here too [14:03] ok, as a starter.....ASSHAT! [14:03] woo! bring on the silence [14:03] do we need to reclick the feed [14:03] me neither [14:03] Hey Matt Russell , et al you have to talk [14:03] feed's fine, mine's still counting [14:03] no more asshat...I'm still hungover frrom last episode. ;) [14:03] music up [14:03] here we go [14:03] AHa! [14:03] I hear it, now. [14:03] n [14:03] ? [14:04] ? [14:04] so what did everyone think of South Park? [14:04] missed it [14:04] i had no idea they bleieve in god [14:04] I didn't get to watch it [14:04] they said so on dateline [14:04] ?! [14:04]