Session Start: Sat Oct 07 12:58:31 2006 Session Ident: #nonprophets [12:58] * Now talking in #nonprophets [12:58] * Topic is 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, October 7th, 2006! at 3:00pm eastern (19:00 UTC) on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes.' [12:58] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Sep 23 15:32:20 [12:58] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [12:59] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! [12:59] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! (Non-Prophets)' [13:01] yo [13:04] Hiya [13:04] I'm here, but mostly AFK. Still have to setup all the mics and stuff. [13:05] * Indefual has joined #nonprophets [13:09] Hey! [13:09] Hi Shawn [13:09] What do you guys think of using the Iron Chariots wiki to keep a list of all Non-Prophet episodes... That lists information about what was in which shows... [13:09] That way I have to place to go if I think "I want to hear the one about..." [13:09] Same for the Atheist Experience. [13:10] I thought about that the other day [13:10] Hello! :) Not sure if I can listen to todays show live. I'll have to check with my S/O... We have to run to the store right now. [13:10] All of the AE shows are catalogued at our site...but NP shows aren't [13:11] Anyway, I'll be back soon. I'd be more than happy to start the pages on the Wiki if you think it's a good idea... (But the catalogue on the page isn't always complete or accurate!) [13:11] I don't think we should use the wiki for that, however. I need to keep my stuff separate from ACA stuff [13:11] Yeah [13:11] I know what you mean [13:11] Sounds good [13:11] But...we might setup a better tracking system and catalog on the ACA site [13:11] anyway, I'm off. [13:11] :) [13:11] Might be back [13:12] Broadcasting now...playing Steely dan until the show starts. [13:19] * zippyapparition has joined #nonprophets [13:31] * stephen has joined #nonprophets [13:33] yo [13:34] Word to your mothra. [13:34] Hello [13:35] I think Steely Dan is probably my favorite band named after a dildo [13:38] * ChristOnIce has joined #nonprophets [13:39] I'd have to agree [13:41] ... [13:41] k [13:41] :) [13:42] Never realized. Never heard of Steely Dan either... So there you have it. [13:43] * rudeboy has joined #nonprophets [13:43] when is the show starting? [13:43] 20 mins? [13:43] usual time I imagine [13:44] * Tero has joined #nonprophets [13:44] more like 16 minutes by my clock... but that's approximate [13:51] The new weird al cd just came out [13:51] straight out of lynwood? [13:51] yupperz [13:51] think I saw some cover art [13:51] i already got it [13:51] he's a madman... [13:52] I had to download the songs he mocks so i get the jokes in his parodies. [13:52] yeah. wish that Prince and a few others would lose the ego and let Al released his unreleased videos [13:53] has he made songs about prince? and just not released them> [13:53] * NeutronJack has joined #nonprophets [13:55] microphone tetst! [13:55] test [13:55] damn, the arthritis is kicking in again [13:57] Starting in about 1 minute.... [13:58] * atxcats has joined #nonprophets [13:58] damn, and here I am with a six pack to make the show more fun... [13:58] er.... withOUT a six pack.... jeeeez, brain damage [13:58] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets The Non-Prophets is LIVE at http://www.nonprophetsradio.com. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for show information. [13:58] * ChanServ changes topic to 'The Non-Prophets is LIVE at http://www.nonprophetsradio.com. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for show information. (Non-Prophets)' [13:59] * NeutronJack hears music! [14:00] * bnem has joined #nonprophets [14:00] * NeutronJack puts on his hula skirt & cocoanuts. [14:00] * atxcats has quit IRC (Client exited) [14:00] ukelele my ass.... oh.... [14:01] Is it tikibar tv meets black sabath? [14:01] * atxcats has joined #nonprophets [14:01] sabath? just means you need to filter the water better... [14:06] Jeepers Kamp? Xtian child abuse... yep, I am not surprised... [14:06] You know that it's a fine, fine, movie, when the reviewers merely debate the proper degree of being appalled. [14:06] Go ahead and spoil away! [14:06] is it double billed with texas chainsaw massacre...? [14:07] i'm amazed they remade that. why, oh why??? [14:07] * NeutronJack never heard of it. [14:07] heh. [14:07] (Jesus Camp, that is.) [14:07] someone saw that they could make a buck [14:07] No, someone saw that they could make a good movie with a similar premise [14:08] The TCM remake was a genuine horror movie, not just a cash in [14:08] Nice ambiguous term: "ON FIRE"!!! [14:08] I thought religious types dont want their children to be flamers [14:08] heh [14:09] battlestar galactica is back! [14:09] and doctor who [14:09] yeahhhh [14:09] * scarlett75 has joined #nonprophets [14:09] still trying to get used to david tennent [14:09] scarlett! [14:09] hey all [14:09] who was the one last season? i liked him a lot [14:10] eccleston [14:10] probably misspelled [14:10] What does Satan get out of torturing folks? I thought he was all for free-sex and pleasure and such. [14:10] thanks, rudeboy [14:11] everyone knows that the devil lives on a ham can [14:11] seems like Satan is just a 1 dimensional cartoon villain, only appropriate for little simplistic mindesets of children. [14:12] There is also a atheist camp [14:12] * bnem has quit IRC (bnem) [14:12] are you sure this wasn't an epileptic camp? [14:12] heh [14:13] ha! [14:13] if you went to any other camp and learned that they taped your kids mouth shut, you'd sue...so, why do the parents condone this? [14:14] camp quest, a camp for atheist kids [14:14] http://www.camp-quest.org/?contentPage=info.xhtml [14:14] their testi-monkey [14:14] poor kid [14:14] I know. [14:14] what is it called? the medical term... I know I'll misspell it but: glossalaia, the talking in tongues which is considered a medical condition or something? [14:14] So, he was ostracized for being a critical thinker? Nice. [14:15] maybe he's a witch. [14:15] this is child abuse [14:15] * Trent has joined #nonprophets [14:15] glossolia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossolia [14:15] * peter has joined #nonprophets [14:15] glossia or xenoglossia, rude [14:15] thanks [14:16] * peter is now known as bnem [14:16] The shame of the movie is that the documentary was shit. Interesting subject, but terrible movie [14:16] That part pissed me off! [14:16] i joined late. what's the movie y'all are talking about? [14:16] tell the kids they're rotten [14:16] Is this the same crazy women that was on wifeswap [14:17] Jesus Camp [14:17] tanks [14:17] Put down the DEVIL'S FOOD CAKE [14:17] bwahaha! [14:17] Jesus Camp: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0486358/ [14:17] devils food cheese cake? [14:17] mmmmm [14:17] satan's licky yum yum? [14:17] lol [14:17] Becky Fisher is her name, isn't it? [14:18] I thought that movie would be too depressing, but I'll probably see it eventually [14:18] Christian Jihad training camp [14:19] it would be some crazy jeeeezuzified nutball who thicks, er, no, emotes the idea that xtian children should be total extremeists [14:19] no, no, no, we need to make sure our children are educated, not brainwashed [14:19] Christian Jihad, scary thought [14:19] We usually just call that a crusade. [14:20] ole bushy bushy did [14:21] do you think the parents do this to make THEIR appearance seem more righteous [14:21] ? [14:21] parents feel bad if their kids don't buy into the same fantasy that they're living. [14:22] right, so scare them into submission [14:22] control [14:22] it makes them question themselves, and if they question, then they won't like the answers [14:22] parents like that simply want to create new units just like them [14:22] if God is omnipotent and omniescient and wants no other idols before him, why would you be required to honor your parents? [14:23] you can respect your parents without BECOMING your parents [14:24] yep [14:24] I am nothing like my parents... [14:24] exactly [14:25] "nothing"? I don't believe that. [14:25] well, in those areas that matter [14:26] if you're DNA were off .6 degrees, you'd be a kangaroo [14:26] if you narrow it down to details, of course we have some things that are alike [14:26] I'm sure that you share many values with your parents. You also disagree with your parents on many issues. [14:26] carbon based lifeforms [14:26] of course, I mean in the large picture [14:26] Homeschoolers usually use the Iowa Standard Test of Basic Skills [14:27] others just pull a Duggar and send their kids to the Bill Gothard school of higher education. YUCK! [14:27] God's nation? [14:27] praying to bush [14:27] If anything, wouldn't ISRAEL be God's nation!? [14:27] sick, sick, sick [14:27] i saw the Duggars on the discovery channel and they conspicuously avoided discussing religion in detail. It was creepy. [14:27] Clutch Cargo for jesus [14:27] cargo cult for jeepers [14:27] So, God will descend from the heavens to Souza tunes and fireworks. Kick ass [14:28] Ted Haggard I think is the name of the Jesite in Co Springs [14:28] * scarlett75 has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) [14:28] and of course they knock science [14:28] * Tero has left #nonprophets [14:28] par for that course [14:28] * scarlett75 has joined #nonprophets [14:29] my nephew goes to Haggard's church, poor thing. welcome back scarlett [14:29] I got booted [14:29] * Targetta has joined #nonprophets [14:29] they do spells like harry potter [14:29] now I can't get back into the audio [14:30] Haggard's smile frightens me [14:31] yeah, smoke and mirrors, performance, it's all acting [14:31] Is Haggard the guy off The root of all evil? [14:31] yes, same guy [14:31] Phew....audio back [14:31] very scary guy then! [14:32] Fakey McFakerson. ;) [14:32] Spongey McFeelpants [14:32] :) [14:33] Becky Fisher [14:33] although, she'd like a theocracy [14:33] (borrowed from the Stephanie Miller Show) [14:33] and they don't have to abide by the things of this world? Amish-lite? [14:34] all of the electricity, half the responsibility? [14:34] Electricity is okay, they prayed for the electricity [14:35] :) [14:35] Its a voodoo cutout [14:35] A graven image! [14:35] dear jeepers, please give me that 120 volts, 10 amps, 60 cycles of bright lit goodness. thank you [14:35] If God has all of this power, why are burning fossil fuels? If there is energy to be passed from one person to another, then I say Christians have an obligation to find a way to harness that "energy" [14:36] hot air? [14:36] lying bitch? I'd have said outright 'bullshit!" [14:37] and then a fist fight would have broken out in the theater.. [14:37] lol [14:37] "Someday, the whole mess could be yours, my son!" [14:37] I'd have done my near perfect impression of BEavis.... "asswipe!" [14:38] electricity is fine - it wasn't in the old testament and then Jesus came and said I am the light and changed the rules again [14:38] followed by that laugh [14:38] jeepers said, I am the 60 watt bulb. prey on me [14:38] oops, nope, he's a dim bulb, sorry [14:39] seriously though, if there's all of this "energy" transferred from the kids to Bush, why not put an EMF meeter between the kids and the cut-out and see what happens [14:39] meter (detector). [14:39] yeah... [14:40] someone do a mass spec on the guy [14:40] I'm not convinced he's carbon based [14:40] :) [14:40] Jesus tells me to do precisly what I wanted to do anyway [14:40] convenient Jeuss. [14:40] Jesus (I can't spell today) [14:41] well, someone switched all the letters on my keyboard [14:41] or my eyes are crossed... [14:41] i didn't even catch that -- i read "Jesus" I can't see today [14:41] I think she should be turned into Child Protective Services [14:41] without beer, my spelling goes all to shit [14:42] without wine served with pizza, I have to leave all the windows opened for hours... [14:42] horcrux on your computer? [14:42] whore what crux? [14:43] ;) Sorry. Harry Potter reference [14:43] ah [14:43] heh [14:43] LOL Matt [14:43] get the DVD and a bottle of strong tequila -- and make a night of it [14:43] gift pack [14:43] hey guys...would you let a teenage kid watch this movie? [14:43] Yeah, the movie is tame [14:44] cool [14:44] sure, teenagers arent babies [14:44] one with some working brains I would [14:44] Dawkins says some great stuff about christians mistreatment of children in the God Delusion - all seems pretty on the mark [14:44] I've got a 12 year old who wants to see it, but I don't want her to have nightmares [14:44] It really isn't as disturbing as people are making it sound [14:44] depends on the kid. Some mature faster than others [14:44] She (my 12 year old) gets freaked out by the fundies at her school [14:44] as long as you put it in the right context, it is good to watch [14:44] she wants to know where they're "coming from" [14:44] as a cautionary tale [14:44] right [14:44] How does she deal with them? [14:45] yeah, 45 minutes is enough [14:45] with respectful disdain [14:45] good [14:45] COOL, thanks guy [14:45] s [14:45] Anytime :) [14:45] all the blood, gore, adn sex is in the extended edition DVD of it [14:45] I haven't been reading chat - kinda busy ranting. But I happened to see your question [14:45] were those the cut out scenes? [14:46] on the second DVD, they show the sacrifices and stuff [14:46] the bloopers [14:46] The deleted scenes were generally better than those in the movie [14:46] ;) [14:46] lol [14:46] As a note to everyone, if you have a question that you'd like us to address on the show... format your message a little like the following:... [14:46] "The priest copped a feel again and it is on camera. Cut!" [14:46] ------- NONPROPHETS: --- blah, blah? [14:46] Make it something I can spot at a glance :) [14:47] gotcha! Thanks Matt [14:47] and, trevor, that made me spew diet coke through my nose [14:47] you sure you didnt eat a mentos? [14:47] heh'...no [14:48] Any news on FT Media? [14:48] ===== NONPROPHETS ====== Center for Inquiry - community of Austin kick-off, Saturday, Oct. 28, 11 a.m. - 3 p.m. -- did y'all get the postcard? [14:48] Iron is a pretty weak metal. I guess Steel chariots would destroy god, and titanium chariots would ANNIHILATE him. [14:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHiwiBEeGa0 -- Jesus Camp Deleted Scene [14:49] and Osmium chariots would weigh him down [14:49] (a little periodic table humor there) [14:50] limbo, limbo, limbo [14:50] Scott needs to be assigned a number [14:50] Yes, it's PROFESSIONAL RADIO! [14:51] atcats: -- Yes. I'll try to get an announcemtn in [14:51] Scott and Scott prime [14:51] scott squared [14:51] uh, just check his email address.... [14:51] A Scott, as opposed to B Scott. [14:51] Great Scott! [14:51] Scotland [14:51] or F Scott [14:51] or F Stop Fitzgearld, the famous photographer [14:51] LOL [14:52] ffffff! [14:52] (a little film humor there) [14:52] Our knees will jerk!! :) HAHA! [14:52] having respectful intentions and being respectful are two different beasts [14:53] bf and d scott ole boy [14:53] Boo hoo. We shall miss Scott [14:53] Fortunately, there's more than one Scott out there. [14:53] Guys check htis out http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/french-saints-heart-makes-us-debut/20061006153909990017?ncid=NWS00010000000001 [14:54] get behind jezuz when he's suffering from uncontrollable flatulence [14:54] LOL [14:54] mmmm, stephen, looks like beef jerky! [14:54] AH, Christ! A Juzuz fart! Ahhhhhhhh! [14:54] If you get behind Jesus, you can't see what's in front of you. Jesus is a tall mo-fo [14:54] His robe has skid marks.... Jeeeezuz [14:54] "I want to get down on my knees and start pleasing Jesus. I want to feel his salvation all over my face..." [14:55] Then you must go to Recreational Xtianity [14:55] "a target-rich environment" -- i like that [14:57] shit. can't find the link [14:57] Stephen... my friend... Go to http://tinyurl.com, it will be a good friend [14:58] Sorry about that [14:58] ah, there, found it [14:58] http://www.weirdcrap.com/recreational/recmenu.htm [14:58] this site is fun all the time [14:59] if you READ ironchariots, there's instructions [15:00] The wiki is looking great! Give it another year and it will be awesome. [15:00] I love the WAy of the Mster [15:00] stuff [15:01] I want to do a show called "The Way of the Masturbater" [15:01] lol [15:01] The main page of Iron Chariots links to http://www.ironchariots.org/forum/ for the forums [15:01] I'm very optimistic about the wiki's future. I don't have any delusions about being the next SAB or infidels.org - there's certainly potential. [15:01] I used to go to camps held by Ray Comfort in NZ [15:01] but the URI http://forum.ironchariots.org/ works too [15:01] Targetta -- glad you survived! [15:01] Scarlett - Thanks...doing the Way of the Master stuff was what started it all. It was a lot of work (and will continue to be)...but I'm glad folks enjoyed it [15:02] I sent a fundy friend "Misquoting Jesus" and I'm happy to say that she's now CONSIDERING the fact that the Bible might not be infallible and inspired. *pumps fist* [15:02] whooo hoo [15:02] god people = pod people [15:02] nothing like opening the eyes of another one [15:02] Yes I survived and he didn't even touch me - you know - down there [15:02] Scarlett, that book is on my stack of books to read [15:02] lol [15:02] it's good atx [15:03] Bob Dobbs [15:03] it's a little biased towards belief, but it AT LEAST examines the methodology of copying the bible and shows how it's probably NOT "God's exact word" [15:03] What about the Skeptics Guide to the Universe [15:04] Has everybody subscribed to the Robert Ingersoll Podcast? It is awesome - so many quotable lines [15:04] I wasn't able to find Ingersoll's podcast. :( [15:04] didn't know ther was one [15:04] I'm listening (to Ingersoll) [15:04] link us [15:04] I could only find a link that you had to pay for [15:04] * rudeboy tipples [15:04] Did they just say "Ass hat?" [15:05] *does a shot of Nyquil* [15:05] I wish I knew how to link - search philosophy in itunes [15:05] it is free on itunes [15:05] Oh. OH! Don't get me started on schools and religion [15:05] I found it through iTunes, didn't have to pay [15:05] I'm about to make a huge rant in my blog about that shit [15:05] control click on itunes in the file running [15:05] some atheist songs I recorded:http://www.lackeyccg.com/music/jig.mp3, http://www.lackeyccg.com/music/jebus.mp3, http://www.lackeyccg.com/music/FreeThinking.mp3 [15:05] My son came home with INVITATIONS TO CHURCH in his backpack. *fuming* [15:06] I'll have a list by tonight! [15:06] NONPROPHETS: I'm working on a list of books for atheist kids on my blog [15:06] Atheist Parents website: http://www.atheistparents.com [15:06] opps [15:06] I wish I could fly by the seat of my pants. That would be awesome! [15:06] .org! [15:06] lol [15:07] Atheist Parents website: http://www.atheistparents.org [15:07] not to mention shredded pants when you land [15:07] invitations to church? did you talk to the teacher? [15:07] I talked to the superintendent of schools, since one of the churches is now using our new multipurpose room for their Sunday service [15:07] how about a response: Invitations to Non Belief [15:08] Yay Ben! [15:08] NONPROPHETS;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; Do you teach your kids about Santa Claus and such? [15:08] my eldest kids friends know that they are atheist [15:09] * ChristOnIce has quit IRC (ChristOnIce) [15:09] the only time it's ever been "a problem" is when the Christian fundies try to convert them [15:09] but, my kids usually respond to a question with a question [15:10] that tends to shut the other kid up pretty fast [15:10] Russell here: We always told Ben the truth -- Santa is a make believe character [15:10] scott needs to grow a brain. He could become Scott 2.0 [15:11] He likes meeting the mall Santa but he knows it's a guy in a suit [15:11] does he look like Billy Bob Thornton? [15:11] I think we discussed which action was best on the show four years ago, and that influenced us but was not the deciding factor [15:11] "Bad" Santa [15:12] No, this was the good Santa :) [15:12] hee hee...! [15:12] My four year old asked the mall Santa (last year) "Why do you like kids to sit on your lap? That's kinda' weird." [15:12] lol [15:12] haha [15:12] I actually felt bad for the guy in the Santa suit [15:12] 'cause my daughter would only stand near him, not sit on his lap [15:13] make sure you don't look up trani-humanists by mistake [15:13] trani-humanists? [15:13] They played the religion card!?!?!?!?! Say it aint' so. [15:14] oh, of course [15:14] riiiiiight [15:14] atheists "ignore" the laws of texas? How about BUSH? [15:14] none of yo' damn bizness [15:14] tranny-humanists... [15:15] All the transumanist technology is WAY down the line [15:15] distant distant future [15:15] Next Sunday A.D. [15:15] Transhumanist [15:15] "Let's imagine I'm bigfoot." [15:15] yeah, given how the anti-technology turds are in charge [15:15] I love American politics - here in NZ the Prime Minister is Atheist, the leader of the opposition is atheist, the christian parties can't even get 5% of the vote! [15:16] there you go [15:16] NZ rocks [15:16] I'm jealous Target [15:16] LOL @ Scarlett's comment [15:16] I'm packing my bags. Save me a home [15:16] Yay NZ! [15:16] sounds like I can really live in NZ [15:16] though it is a long way from my current job [15:16] amn, the commute will kill me [15:16] The US still has a huge impact though even way over here! [15:17] sorry about that [15:17] NONPROPHETS[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[ Since so many of you guys are professional artists, when are we going to see some illustrations of what exactly an "ass-hat" is?!? [15:17] yeah, the commute would be a bitch, rudeboy [15:17] heh [15:17] it's bill clinton's fault [15:17] Foley is also a catheter [15:17] provides good TV and movies though we have Peter JAckson [15:17] I'll shoot a pic of my bare ass and put a hat on it. Would that help? [15:17] Here's a news item that we may not get to...but the irony makes my stomach turn: Some asshat is trying to get Fahrenheit 451 removed from the public shool libray. [15:17] just thought I'd throw that imagery in the mix [15:18] FUCKING HATE CENSORSHIP [15:18] oh brother [15:18] Trevor - I'll ask the artist-types..but I doubt you'll be seeing that illustration. :) [15:18] yay [15:18] Well, there are the assheads on South Park [15:18] unless its a chick ass-hat [15:18] that comes close [15:19] I wouldnt call him a pedophile. The guy was 16, and that's old enough in my opinion for it to not be criminal. Foley is a hypocrit, not a pedophile. [15:19] tom reynolds, another ass hat [15:20] Yeah. 16 y.o. kids aren't exactly pariahs of innocence when it comes to online conversations [15:20]