Session Start: Sat Sep 09 13:13:01 2006 Session Ident: #nonprophets [13:13] * Now talking in #nonprophets [13:13] * Topic is 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, September 9th, 2006! at 3:00pm eastern (19:00 UTC) on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes.' [13:13] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Aug 26 15:39:33 [13:13] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [13:13] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! [13:13] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3pm eastern (19:00 UTC)! Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for connection information! (Non-Prophets)' [13:13] Chat hosted by irc.wikkedwire.com [13:13] Visit the Atheist Community of Austin website: http://www.atheist-community.org [13:13] Visit the Non-Prophets website: http://www.nonprophetsradio.com [13:13] Welcome! You can connect directly to the LIVE show! Winamp, media player and other software can be used by "connect to URL" or "play URL" features and directing the player to: nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000 or nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000/listen.pls (Limited spaces available) [13:19] * stephen has joined #nonprophets [13:21] Afternoon all...still setting up, but you can go ahead and connect. Playing a little Jethro Tull until just before show time [13:28] * Indefual has joined #nonprophets [13:33] Shawn! Good to see ya ;) [13:33] And the rest of you, also [13:34] * rudeboy has joined #nonprophets [13:35] ah, here we go again.... [13:36] * scarlett75 has joined #nonprophets [13:36] hi all [13:36] hello [13:36] how are you, this week, rudeboy? [13:36] feeling slightly better than last week [13:37] that's good. [13:37] slept almost ten hours this morning, which is odd for me [13:37] btw - I can't remember if I usually sign in here as jhawksgirl or scarlett75. [13:38] WOW! Ten hours. [13:38] yeah, I usually do 6-7 hours regularly [13:38] I've been averaging about five hours, over the last year. [13:38] Sucks [13:38] I'm thinking I may be fighting off some infection or something [13:38] could be [13:38] Well, I've been feeling run down for several weeks now [13:38] that's too bad [13:39] any other symptoms? [13:39] and since I have zero health care, I cannot go to a doctor to get diagnosed [13:39] no, just a general tiredness [13:39] no fevers? [13:39] no [13:39] you're probably right then...just run down [13:39] this "condition" makes me cranky though [13:40] understandable [13:40] that makes it tough when I have to deal with customers at the store [13:40] I have lupus and spend most of my days in bed... it tends to make one a little edgy [13:41] oh... that makes my problems small ones compared to your own. [13:41] Russell won't be joining us today, so I probably won't be making many comments in IRC (as I'll have to contribute a bit more to discussions) - but I'll check in from time to time [13:41] <--- Matt, by the way (almost always me) [13:41] Awww... no Russel. Denied. [13:41] Hi Matt [13:41] we'll be making plenty of rude (for me) comments NP [13:42] Hiya! [13:42] Are they saying "Bungle in the jungle"...or am I hearing that wrong [13:43] No that's it scarlett [13:43] thanks zippy [13:43] I have it on a 45 rpm! [13:43] sweet [13:44] I remember 45s. :) [13:44] I remember 78s [13:44] I remember mono vinyl [13:44] lol [13:44] So do I and I'm not even that old. :p [13:44] uh oh, acid flashbacks [13:44] I have some 78's. I bought a new turntable to play them. [13:44] I remember playing 33s at 78 to get that Chipmunk sound [13:45] some of those old platters are terrific [13:45] just don't look at them crosseyed or they'll shatter [13:45] haha [13:46] ok...I'm going to try and scarf down some soup while I wait for the show to start [13:46] my turntable only plays 33 and 45 [13:46] scarf soup? sounds interesting [13:46] though all those shirt fibers [13:46] yuck.... [13:46] yeah. the hairballs can be a bitch [13:47] ask any cat [13:47] actually, it's homemade veggie soup in a breadbowl. :) [13:47] cool [13:47] I'm a sucker for spinach and artechoke dip in a bread bowl [13:47] despite the fact that it's 99 degrees today, i wanted soup. Spinach Artichoke Dip equals love [13:47] for me, that's a meal in iteself [13:48] we're lucky, L.A. is cooling off this weekend [13:48] fogged in two mornings in a row [13:48] Bakersfield, here [13:48] oh, right [13:48] I used to live in Ventura. Love the fog [13:48] Blazing Bakersfield [13:48] keeps things nice and cool [13:48] yeah, it would [13:49] can't wait for the show to start. [13:49] yep [13:49] 11 minutes to go [13:49] my music cut out [13:50] HEY! Test [13:50] Hello [13:50] :) [13:50] too loud [13:50] You have to request him to be loud? [13:51] I have to ask him to be loud, so I can adjust the mic for when he IS loud, later - which is almost a guarantee [13:51] true [13:51] hahah [13:51] :) [13:52] I am Duncan Mac-Loud of the Clan Mac Loud [13:52] Ok, we're gonna start in less than 10 minutes, but we're broadcasting silent until then. [13:52] it's his unrestrained zealousness and boisterous nature. [13:52] uh oh, now they'll start talking in scottish accents [13:52] oh...what a buzzkill [13:52] if they start talking about haggus, I'm out [13:52] hee hee [13:52] If anyone has comments on volumes/audio stuff during the show let me know. To get my attention you might want to try something like.... [13:52] he said, sheepishly [13:53] *************** Non Prophets!! --- Comment [13:53] ba dum bum [13:53] ok, Matt. We'll yell at you, if need be. ;) [13:53] heh eheh heh heh heh -- Barney Rubble [13:53] Thankee [13:53] BRB -- on the phone [13:54] phone sex before the show, rudeboy? [13:55] heh I wish [13:55] I wonder if we should start some kind of mile-high-club-esque club for the show? LOL [13:55] ewwwww [13:56] sorry...my mind just went way into the gutter [13:56] * atxcats has joined #nonprophets [13:56] * stephen has quit IRC (stephen) [13:56] I didn't see rude's comment that he was ON the phone - so when scarlett75 said "phone sex before the show, rudeboy?" - I thought she was offering. LOL [13:57] who's having phone sex? [13:57] lol [13:57] Maybe we should all be having fun sex... [13:57] Or... cyber sex? [13:57] noooo... my husband was standing right here, though, and read YOUR comment Matt [13:57] he's like "You offered to have sex with a nonprophet?" [13:58] haha [13:58] Non prophet groupie. [13:58] fringe benefits? [13:58] wooooooot [13:58] How'd he take it? Should I suggest it again? ;) [13:58] LOL [13:58] Ok, enough sex talk...I've gotta get this show started!! [13:58] he says "you pay the plane fare...we'll work something out." Ugh. I feel so cheap [13:58] well, get crackin [13:59] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets The Non-Prophets is LIVE at http://www.nonprophetsradio.com. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for show information. [13:59] * ChanServ changes topic to 'The Non-Prophets is LIVE at http://www.nonprophetsradio.com. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for show information. (Non-Prophets)' [13:59] one minute [14:00] ! [14:00] Hey non-prophets -- I arranged for a planning meeting for an atheist student group at UT last night and we had 14 people show up! [14:01] sweet, atx [14:01] call ins? [14:01] Great! [14:01] cool [14:01] i think they are going to be the Atheist Agenda-UT, since one of the founders founded the Atheist Agenda at UT San Antonio. Guess she's a foundling? [14:01] that'd be sweet [14:02] abc sucks [14:02] you guys are educational? [14:02] the fuck'? [14:02] yes, for our non-profit status [14:02] I thought this was just fun. LOL [14:03] fun, too [14:03] fun educational? [14:03] * Aerik has joined #nonprophets [14:04] HARSH, Jeff!! :) [14:04] This is the Non-Prophets radio show chat, yes? [14:04] yes, Aerik [14:05] Hi Aerik, yes! [14:05] yep [14:05] Phew! Scary how little people are in here (as compared to yesterday's Infidel Guy) [14:05] JesusFreaks SuperGroup? Rick James outreach program? [14:05] lol, scarlett [14:05] lol @ Rick James outreach program - just imagine, a room full of people who can't stop saying "I'm rick james, bitch" [14:05] LOL [14:05] Jeff Jesus Freak! [14:05] lol [14:06] Jeepers Freak? [14:06] What Would Jeff Jesus Do? [14:06] Screw that - what would Vegeta do? [14:06] Does that mean I have to put on my platform shoes? [14:06] lol...Jeff was lower than low [14:06] do you need a weave with those shoes, rudeboy? [14:06] Did they at least give you an atheist cape? [14:07] yeah, I need to take what's leaft of my hair and poof it up into a Flock of Seagulls weave [14:07] An atheist cape eh? Would you put the atom / hazard - like military symbol for atheism on it? [14:07] heh [14:07] I see atoms [14:07] I see dead people [14:07] "Look at it spiraturally?" what shit. [14:07] she wanted you to look at it like an M Night Shayalala film [14:08] i see napping cats [14:08] Shyamalan* [14:08] Are there spirits talking -- Rocky "Yes, just listen - Bullwinkle [14:08] ONE. You get ONE hit. [14:08] bleh, we both spelled it wrong nvm [14:08] (commercial break) [14:08] thanks Erik... [14:08] "Maybe you aren't aware you just got served!" [14:09] How many courses? [14:09] Supa' Group, Supa' Group...she's superfreaky yow [14:09] if you google pictures underpants, my blog is 1 out of 815,000. no quotes, though [14:09] I'm ready for the meat dish [14:09] Where's my parfait? [14:09] *serves Rude a parfait* [14:10] lol [14:10] *on a platter* [14:10] all i can do is throw olives [14:10] heh heh [14:10] Isn't Christianity a hateful ideology [14:10] we're back to the food fight from two weeks ago, eh? [14:10] Thanks to some meta keyword fudgery, I made it so that entering "plait shermer pigliucci pinker randi" will point to my blog on the first page in a moderately or strictly filtered google search. [14:10] and we're just 10 min. into the show [14:10] cool, aerik [14:11] atxcats: It's actually rude of me; I undid it, but the cached pages of my blog still show up. [14:11] inflatable peoples?? Didn't we cover this before the show? [14:11] 2 but it does prove that Google still uses the Keyword meta tag [14:12] plate tectonics -- what my old dishwasher does when it vibrates during rinse cycle... [14:12] ROFLOL rude [14:12] hehe [14:12] afraid of what? [14:13] faith bashing? that's too easy... [14:13] THE TRUTH! [14:13] [14:13] Conversational Terrorism: how NOT to talk: http://www.vandruff.com/art_converse.html [14:13] well, there's that Cody [14:14] Jesus has left the building [14:14] Jeepers came? Or was he just breathing hard? What chapter of the book is that one ? [14:14] sounds like a porno movie plot [14:14] with phone sex [14:14] 10 sorry, broken link. Here's the real Converational Terrorism page. http://www.proft.org/tips/conv-terror.html [14:14] ;) [14:14] oh yeah.... uh huh huh huh -- Butthead [14:15] 1800976Jesus [14:15] 1-900-what-the-fuck? [14:15] heh' [14:15] 1-900-jesus-69 [14:15] bwfff! [14:15] heh -- phone sex with the son-o-gawd [14:15] * bnem has joined #nonprophets [14:15] Jesus, what are you wearing? [14:15] wb bnem [14:16] hi [14:16] loincloth [14:16] my robe, and a thong [14:16] He wears nothing but the truth and a smile [14:16] halo [14:16] lol txcats [14:16] Jesus: tell me what you wanna' do to me [14:16] Who want's a halo ride? [14:16] ah, the illuminati? lol [14:16] I've been a bad, bad girl, Jesus... punish me. [14:16] sorry [14:17] funny, scarlett! [14:17] you want scary shit, go read the website: http://www.yuricareport.com/ [14:17] yrica report? [14:18] the tap dancing proof of Da Christ [14:18] Katherine Yurika tracks the Xtian zealots [14:18] and she is a believer herself... [14:19] According to every Xian sect, 99% of all christians out there arent christians [14:19] You mean he doesn't sign the post I Shall Be the Conquerer? [14:19] which explains current xtianity [14:20] OH OH. You guys have to check out my blog...totally ties into this discussion [14:20] holy spooks! [14:20] where are the "thing's" credentials? [14:20] link, scarlett? [14:20] I don't write to my blog nearly as often as I say I would or should [14:20] http://possummomma.blogspot.com/ [14:20] so you got blogged down on the job [14:21] >> http://thescienceethicist.blogspot.com/ [14:21] like that "atheist in a mini van" [14:21] thanks axt [14:21] aerik... saved your blog for later viewing. Thanks [14:21] thanks for the links [14:21] all bookmarked to read later. [14:22] Not much to it yet, though almost a year old. bleh, kinda pathetic [14:22] yeah, me too. check em after the show [14:22] I used to do an internet radio show, and I was always behind [14:22] http://sbrownblog.blogspot.com/ -- my resolution is to write more atheist stuff in it, and to post fewer pictures of cats [14:23] or more pictures of atheist cats [14:23] I wrote to and impressed Orac ( http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/ ) with my 1st two blog posts ever, but I was a full-time nanny and was always busy and it went downhill from there. [14:23] all cats are atheists, except perhaps when it comes to Bast [14:23] God is the ultimate authority... ugh [14:24] Cats probably believe in some sort of Tuna god [14:24] xtian yawnfest [14:24] Non-Phrophets So hows that Euthyphro thing going? [14:24] tuna [14:24] well, you can tuna piano but you can't tuna fish [14:24] aerik, hope you have more time to write in your blog! [14:24] bazzing! [14:24] Wasn't there an article this week saying that Southern Baptist women think Bush was put in power by God? [14:24] So much for a republic democracy [14:24] lol wtf? "bazzing" without emphasizing *zing* just looked retarded. oh man lol [14:25] but i think i also read southern women are breaking up with bush? [14:25] I read that, too [14:25] well, perhaps his fuel mixture when he wrote that was slightly retarded [14:25] that happens to my car too [14:25] right, but GOOD parents don't have to rape/abuse/hurt their children to help them grow [14:26] every time i hear of some heinous child abuse in TX, i wonder, "hmm, what is the religious angle", and 99 times outta 100 there is one [14:26] unless you're the Duggars...then you just become another zygote or sperm factory to grow the ministry of JimBob [14:27] http://nospank.net/humphrey.htm - "What Shall We Tell the Chldren?" by Nicholas Humphrey - why all religious education is child abuse. [14:27] yeah, there is definitely something odd about Texas [14:27] You musn't grow up because you might outsmart me [14:27] 4 http://nospank.net/humphrey.htm - "What Shall We Tell the Chldren?" by Nicholas Humphrey - why all religious education is child abuse. [14:27] Is it the water? the weather? It's geographical location in the world or the universe? [14:27] buckle of the bible belt? [14:28] more like the zipper [14:28] TX is the zipper, OK the zipper-tab, Kansas the buckle [14:28] lol [14:28] which state is the foreskin? [14:29] ha! [14:29] Florida [14:29] it is abuse to scare little children into belief [14:29] We need to have a bris' for Mississippi? [14:29] haha [14:29] scarlet75 - so where you come from the foreskin shows out of the pants? [14:29] sometimes, Aerik,....sometimes [14:29] heretofore... [14:29] :( [14:30] What about just ... bad parents? [14:30] good point, Cody [14:30] What if God is the abusive, drunk parent? [14:30] we wouldn't say that bad parents have a right to tell their children to do all sorts of things. [14:31] well, we already know that gawd is a mass murderer and rapist [14:31] (for example: kill their grandchildren to prove loyalty to them.) [14:31] Andrea Yates, anyone? [14:31] tx again [14:31] "Children, I'll argue, have a human right not to have their minds crippled by exposure to other people's bad ideas -- no matter who these other people are. Parents, correspondingly, have no god-given licence to enculturate their children in whatever ways they personally choose: no right to limit the horizons of their children's knowledge, to bring them up in an atmosphere of dogma and... [14:31] ...superstition, or to insist they follow the straight and narrow paths of their own faith." [14:32] * bnem has quit IRC (bnem) [14:32] nice quote [14:33] * bnem has joined #nonprophets [14:33] but he hates sin, you sorry, sinful sinner you [14:33] The proof that you're good is that God let you live? [14:33] Wow [14:33] hi again bnem! [14:33] $ 20. See the extended discussion by James G. Dwyer, "Parents' religion and children's welfare: debunking the doctrine of parents' rights," California Law Review, 82, 1371-1447, 1994; "The children we abandon: religious exemptions to child welfare and education laws as denials of equal protection to children of religious objectors," North Carolina Law Review, 74, 101-258, 1996. [14:33] excuse me while I jerk off [14:33] (it's teh sinner in me, I can;t hel;p it) [14:33] damn, I can't type for shit today [14:34] Nor I [14:34] well, with one hand, you're excused [14:34] jerking off tends to screw up your qwerty capabilties [14:34] not to mention cleaning up the mess afterwar, damn it [14:34] hope your keyboard is non-stick [14:34] oh yeah [14:34] ewww [14:35] compressed air - keyboard blow job? [14:35] you should get one of those covers for your keyboard [14:35] I aim to.... get it....? I aim..... never mind [14:35] scarlett, you're on a roll! [14:35] *bows humbly* [14:36] NICE humming Matt [14:37] I had a Christian tell me, this week, that my lupus would disappear if I accepted God's love [14:37] apparently God's love is similar to plaquenil and methotrexate [14:37] but he hates amputees [14:37] thans but no thanks [14:37] so Gawd is a pill? [14:37] so no xtians have lupus? [14:37] huh. [14:37] * stephen has joined #nonprophets [14:37] THANK you cats! That's what I said [14:38] Oh shit! I can't believe I've never noticed, but I deleted the code for my blog's archives from the sidebar! [14:38] I thin my exact response was "So...all of those xtian cancer and lupus patients must've REALLY screwed up." [14:39] Sounds like a set up for a joke: [14:39] "Catholic priest, minister, and a rabbi walk into a school..." [14:40] the priest and the minister both agree: "hey, let's go fuck some kids." the rabbi says, "out of what?" [14:40] HAHAHAHA! [14:40] good punch line [14:40] and the minister replies, of all their cash [14:40] no, tha was it, rudeboy [14:40] well...and, I can't imagine the ONE atheist kid in class feeling like he/she could be open [14:41] and the atheist superhero swarms down and . . . [14:41] oh, well he got left out so I felt it necessary to include him in on the joke [14:41] heh [14:41] never mind [14:42] see the real punchline of the joke was not that the rabbi knows their religions are false, but that he's a lawyer. [14:42] ooooh. [14:42] I was not paying attention [14:42] it was a double-whammy on christian clergymen and the jewish stereotype [14:42] I don't get how people think atheists proselytize? [14:42] Yeah, I got it. My brain is a little spongy today. Spungiform virus probably [14:43] mad cow [14:43] spungiform or spoogiform? [14:43] yeah [14:43] Deconvert or die! [14:43] both [14:43] Professor Farnsworth: "nonsense - he's just full of male jelly" [14:43] it's not like the atheist holds a threat above your head [14:43] oh, goody, listener mail! [14:44] hope they got some from Jamaica! [14:44] "Here's the mail it never fails, it makes me wanna' wag my tail. When it comes I wanna yell MAILLLLL." Blue's Clues [14:44] i want to hear them do that accent [14:44] heh [14:44] * Dave63 has joined #nonprophets [14:44] No. No. No [14:44] and some lines of the DNA drop off as well [14:44] blues clues? you know the original blues clues human character did coke or something, right? [14:45] oh probably [14:45] that analogy from the listener mail is WRONG [14:45] no shit [14:45] he equivocated a new generation with a new lineage. [14:45] the root of the tree is the root of the tree...just because one branch dies doesn't mean the trunk dies [14:45] his source was "Of Panda's and People" perhaps? [14:46] CONCESTOR not ancesto [14:46] r [14:47] 4 What could possibly be compellingly significant about human evolution as of only 1-4,000 years ago? That's an evolutionary nanosecond. [14:48] exactly [14:48] This Mitrochondrial Eve bullshit presupposes 6000yr young creationism. Sheesh. [14:48] Correct, but consider this: A has B and C as offspring. B has b1 and b2, C has c1 and c2. If C, c1 and c2 die off, removing a branch - then the B is the focal node for all existing living things. A is still ALSO an ancestor, but the first common node becomes B. That's what he meant by the share common ancestor shifting...I think it's a weak point to make - because A remains an ancestor...however, it is the accurate definition of Mitocondrial Eve [14:49] Aerik - Mitochondrial Eve isn't young earth or creationism - ...it's evoluationary biology. [14:49] ok...I see what you're saying [14:49] It's just ABUSED by young-earth creationists simply because it includes the word "Eve" ... it's an equivocation fallacy [14:49] mitochondria in animal cells have been around much longer than 4,000 years. [14:50] Yes. [14:50] here's a note to Christians: GO READ A BOOK [14:50] It's based on the African female skeleton found, what, about 20 years ago or something? [14:50] Non-Prophets - I said "This Mitochondiral Eve bullshit" . .... *This* [14:50] I know I read something about it somewhere [14:50] Ah, sorry :) [14:50] S'OK [14:50] http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/mitoeve.html [14:51] oops, sorry boot caps. [14:51] no problem [14:51] an ancestor of no one? [14:51] "an ancestor of noone" is an oxymoron. To be an ancestor explicity implies offspring. [14:52] It's a poorly presented question [14:52] it is [14:52] bleh now I'm almost using an oxymoron. Instead of "explicitly imlies" I should have just said "entails" [14:52]