Session Start: Sat Jun 17 13:34:51 2006 Session Ident: #nonprophets [13:34] * Now talking in #nonprophets [13:34] * Topic is 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, June 17th, 2006! at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.freethoughtradio.com, or visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for archived episodes.' [13:34] * Set by Non-Prophets on Sat Jun 03 15:26:46 [13:34] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [13:35] morning guys.... [13:35] Hiya [13:35] or, I guess, afternoon wher you are [13:35] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.freethoughtradio.com! [13:35] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to hear the Non-Prophets LIVE, today at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.freethoughtradio.com! (Non-Prophets)' [13:36] How is everything in the land of Lone Star Beer and functionally illiterate chief executives? [13:37] Hello Non-Prophets. [13:37] Hi Indefual [13:37] ah, country music... [13:37] Well, everything is pretty good...just very hectic [13:37] Rudeboy: 105 eh? Let me convert that to a scale that makes sense (Celsius)... 40.5! Wow! That's really hot, Rudeboy. I feel sorry for you. [13:38] lol [13:38] I haven't heard back from FTR, so we're not sure if they'll be here [13:38] Here it's 36 degrees, however. That... Umm... 90? It's not usually that hot. [13:38] "here" being... ? [13:39] here being chat...and connecting to and broadcasting the stream [13:39] Especially this early in the year. Last time I talked to you, Rudeboy, you were in a thunderstorm. Now really hot? Weather sucks where you are. [13:39] hahaha [13:39] No, in Canada. [13:39] "Southern" Canada. [13:39] In Ontario. [13:39] Also, there are big thunderstorms here today (though I think it's clearing up). If the live stream dies...we'll just keep recording and post it after we're done [13:39] ah, okay [13:39] Oh. [13:39] I was excited about my first live show in a month and a half. [13:39] And the stream might go down? [13:39] That sucks. [13:39] :) [13:40] Closest I have ever been to Southern Canada is Lake of the Woods in Northern Minnesota [13:40] I think we actually crossed the border in a canoe [13:40] No one searched my tackle box for contraband [13:40] That's not bad. Canada extends more south than Minnesota, so that's about right :) [13:40] hahah [13:40] Canoe, eh? [13:40] Sounds like the right way to cross the boarder. [13:40] * Billy-FTR has joined #nonprophets [13:41] yep, 17foot aluminum canoe [13:41] Ah! Is this our Free Thought Radio rep? We were just talking about you. [13:41] Worried that the station wouldn't be ready to connect. [13:41] Hope everything is set to go. [13:41] Hey [13:41] :) [13:41] We're ready. =p [13:41] I wasn;t much of a fisherman but I liked rowing about in that thing [13:42] Did you know that Canada won several battles in the War of 1812 because of our cannoers? [13:42] I'm sitting on the direct feed, Non-Ps, sounding good here [13:42] We got the message to our outposts before the Americans did and took them before they realized they were at war. [13:42] Well, see there, a canoe makes a good weapon of mass distraction [13:42] hha [13:44] "Quick, Harley, smack that Cannuck with the 17 foot canoe.. " [13:44] "Whap!" [13:45] "All right. He cain't report back to the RCMPs. Let's steal his string of fish." [13:46] Billy? [13:47] RCMP is plural--P standing for Police--no need to pluralize. :) [13:47] Quotes from "An Unknown History of Canoe Wars" by Willard "Flycast" Peachblossom [13:48] well, it was a direct quote... [13:48] 8) [13:49] my shades are actually darker than those [13:49] * atxcats has joined #nonprophets [13:50] haha [13:50] lets hope they are. [13:50] Hello atxcats. [13:50] awake? [13:50] hiya [13:51] Non-Ps, You aren't in any of the Severe Thunderstorm watch boxes at the moment. [13:52] Not that that means you wouldn't get one, this time of year... [13:54] * SydneyBarrett has joined #nonprophets [13:55] All the really serious weather appears to be far East of your location.. [13:55] yeah, it passed over a few hours ago -- the thunder woke me up [13:56] a nice non severe thunderstorm would be a welcome relief here [13:56] Yup...it woke me up at 9:30 and we had a power outage. [13:56] Everything looks good right now though [13:56] call enron, they'll fix it real fast [13:56] TTL = 1 min (though you guys are delayed...) ;) [13:56] yep [13:57] * rudeboy runs for a beer [13:58] * ouini has joined #nonprophets [13:58] * rudeboy cracks oper the beer [13:58] make that "open" [13:59] you're supposed to type like that AFTER the beer [13:59] When it comes to touch typing, I just plain suck.... [13:59] here we go... [13:59] what other type of typing do you do? [13:59] hunt and... er.... [13:59] peck..? [13:59] er [14:00] It's carpet tunnel, I swear... [14:00] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets The Non-Prophets is LIVE at http://www.freethoughtradio.com. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for show information. [14:00] * ChanServ changes topic to 'The Non-Prophets is LIVE at http://www.freethoughtradio.com. Visit http://www.nonprophetsradio.com for show information. (Non-Prophets)' [14:00] I hope they have a lot of international letters to read today -- Jeff's accents are funny [14:00] Chat hosted by irc.wikkedwire.com [14:00] this month's letcher series...? [14:00] Visit the Atheist Community of Austin website: http://www.atheist-community.org [14:01] Visit the Non-Prophets website: http://www.nonprophetsradio.com [14:01] Welcome! If you're having problems with freethoughtradio, you can connect directly to the LIVE show! Winamp, media player and other software can be used by "connect to URL" or "play URL" features and directing the player to: nonprophets.gotdns.org:8000 (Limited spaces available) [14:01] Listen LIVE at http://www.freethoughtradio.com [14:01] happy hour... if I leave tonight, I might just make it [14:01] uh, oh, i'm not hearing what you're hearing [14:02] yeah, we missed the 06-06-06 big nonsense/// [14:02] oh, now i'm hearing it [14:02] the devil makes me do typos? [14:03] hat damn [14:03] finally, someone or something I can blame my shit on... [14:03] yeah, in anguish until the next "Omen" sequel is released... heh [14:04] news, bring it on! [14:04] is FTR about a minute behind, or can rudeboy type that fast? [14:04] * Dave63 has joined #nonprophets [14:04] or their direct feed is faster..? [14:05] perhaps [14:05] FTR broadcasts on a delay of (I think) 2 min. [14:05] ah, mail's here... [14:06] republican xrossover votes, is why [14:07] I think there are very few voters who feel they know exactly what we *should* do about Iraq now that we're in the mess, but just about everyone has an opinion on whether a gay marriage amendment should be passed. [14:08] it passed so that the repubs -- in the fall -- can say, hey, they voted against the war, the liberals are weak on terror.... it's an election ploy [14:09] anything to undercut the democrats in the fall off season elections [14:10] yeah, it's economics... [14:10] Also, the resolution is non-binding, while an amendment would be extremely binding. [14:10] exactly, to galvanize their "base" rich conservatives and religious right nutters [14:11] I'm proud of my republican senator who talked at length against easy rhetorical "stay the course" arguments. [14:11] (Oops, I meant representative) [14:12] heh [14:12] yep, then flag burning [14:12] they've been trying to pass that for decades [14:12] more distractions [14:13] lol [14:13] no... I want the Bill O'Reilly toilet paper [14:13] if anything NEED to be flushed... [14:13] It's actually a flag desecration amendment [14:13] coulter [14:14] yeah, right.... [14:14] The amendment would read as "The Congress shall have power to prohibit the physical desecration of the flag of the United States." [14:14] Her adams apple is bigger than mine.... [14:15] sounds to me like an attempt to force patriotism. what an oxymoron. [14:16] so's her penis rudeboy [14:16] and to make "anti-patriotism" a crime ... a fine set up [14:16] LOL [14:16] "Human Animal Hybrids" -- G. W. Bush [14:17] She is a propagandist [14:17] She is a loud mouthed bully for the hardcore right wing. [14:18] Yeah, Carlin was the total gentleman [14:18] i bet they expected him to dig into her [14:18] He said he never thought he'd "move to the right of Ann Coulter" [14:18] yeah, that was his one zinger [14:20] It'll be Al Coulter after the change... [14:21] yeah, when the horemones kick in... [14:21] * ouini has quit IRC (ouini) [14:22] * ouini has joined #nonprophets [14:22] She was astounded that people don't get mad when she calls them "godless". I wear my godlessness with pride, Ms. Coulter! [14:22] for sure [14:23] Ann, you call me godless like it's a bad thing! [14:23] The highly facetious but pretty funny Betty Bowers reviewed Godless. http://www.bettybowers.com/coulter.html [14:24] You got it on the nail, Jeff [14:25] Intentionally divert a chunk of atheistic dems from voting Dem, just to accuse them is enough [14:25] Wouldn't surprise me [14:28] * Aaiw has joined #nonprophets [14:29] well, accurate AND relevant [14:30] she is an ugly cunt ... excuse my latin... [14:31] We all have to get behind freedom of religion, so leave the Wiccans alone. Maybe Coulter should read the Constitution she pretends to uphold. [14:31] Some years ago, during a senate hearing on intelligence... someone asked a tough question of a CIA PR dude [14:31] IN the question, the Senator asking the Q mentioned Rush Limbaugh's show [14:32] IN the response to the question, the CIA man said something to the effect that "We don't discuss CIA assets" [14:32] I don't think anyone doubts she's basically a shock-jock. She gets media attention for this reason and because many people used to find her hot. This is no better reason to be heard in the public forum than being a 9/11 widow. [14:32] IF Limppaw is an asset, why ot Coulter? [14:32] "Not" [14:33] i think she's just being inflammatory to sell books [14:33] I heard that Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot. [14:33] Aftr all, the intelligence community says it's perfectly fine to use propaganda aimed at the American audience [14:33] yes, Dave, he is a big fat, drug addled idiot [14:35] "Inflammatory" is descriptive, though mildly adequate when used to describe the sickness and blatant fascism of someone like Coulter [14:35] I wonder how the sales of this book are going -- will this ever get old? [14:36] Well, there is a unique situation when it comes to the sales of hardcore rightwing books these days... [14:36] And it comes in the form of a really rich fuck by the name of Richard Mellon Skaith (sic?) [14:36] Whoever mentions Hitler first is wrong. [14:38] You see, to guarantee that the book makes the best seller list right away, some rich fuck like Sir Skaith (sic) buys a huge volume of books up front to force the title to the top of the list. Cute, eh? [14:39] Richard Mellon Scaife? yeah, that is cute. [14:40] While it's true that the Democrats didn't mold Cindy Sheehan to be a sympathetic spokesperson for the Democrats, it's also very true that Republicans and Democrats go searching for spokespeople who are sympathetic and fit the issue. Ahh, now Russell is discussing this. [14:40] yep [14:40] Non-Prophets: I'm getting low-frequency noise. A bit of feed back. A low hum.... [14:41] No hum, here. I'm connecting directly. [14:41] Well, it begs the Question, Does C. Sheehan have a body guard? Does she have a full time PR person. IS she selling a book? [14:41] i hear the hum [14:41] I rest my case [14:41] I'm not getting a hum here [14:41] No hum here. [14:42] I don't hear the hum, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I don't hear a lot of frequencies. [14:42] sounds like a fan running i near the mic or something. [14:42] could be RF hum from a monitor or computer power supply [14:43] or a bad connector [14:44] You have to understand that, as a media-whore who isn't required to run for office, all Ann Coulter has to do is appeal to her base. That's it. the reason she says things like "we republicans are God's people, and are reasonable when it comes to science unlike liberals" is because she simply has to stroke her readers' egos to sell books. That's all this she is about. [14:44] ... "that" she is about. [14:46] i suppose she means being "reasonable when it comes to science" means being "open minded to intelligent design" [14:47] The APA was forced to denounce the scientist who showed that kids weren't as severely affected by porn/exposure to sex as popularly believed. They lost credibility, but were essentially forced (mostly by Tom Delay) to do so. And of course congress could not vote but the way they did, by something like X-hundreds to 5. [14:47] My apologies for not being more active in chat or on the show today...I'm sorting out some "behind the scenes" issues. Hopefully the show is going well and everyone's getting a good feed. [14:47] and "teach the controversy" [14:50] Didn't the Christian's kill all the Pagans already? [14:50] Skype them in. [14:50] That game isn't out yet Dave :) [14:51] That game has already been played! [14:56] Haha. Like the Non-Prophets can complain about someone else being a nitpick! [14:58] lol [14:58] Don't worry, I've got your back! (Sorta) :) [14:58] The diference between Pedophiles and Child Molesters, for the peanut gallery: http://www.atsa.com/ppPedophiles.html [14:58] :) [14:58] hheheh [14:58] And it's pronounced In-deaf-yule... Jeff's pronouncement was pretty good. [14:58] :) [15:01] * Ammerz has joined #nonprophets [15:01] This is quite a screed. Is this because Jeff creates intellectual property? :) [15:01] I'm not touching that [15:02] Though, I generally agree... I just think the issue is a bit more complicated [15:03] robbin hood..all i got to say :) [15:03] I'll second that! [15:03] what about when computer software says "If you don't agree with the license terms, return it to the store for a refund", store obviously won't issue refund for opened software but you don't see the terms of the license until AFTER you've opened it??? [15:05] If somebody slaps you in the face, and you don't press charges, then it's "not a crime". Nobody can FORCE you to press charges. If somebody has copyrighted data, but chooses not to enforce the copyright, then there's no harm in taking it, by definition. [15:05] That is correct. It's their right via copyright laws to allow you to copy it. [15:06] However, I'm not sure I agree with the assault. I think assault is always illegal. [15:06] assault is force in the first place [15:06] In fact, if you don't defend your intellectual property when you learn of someone stealing it, then it becomes hard to defend your property later when you decide to prosecute someone. [15:06] Does nothing happen if an officer sees someone slap you or hit your with a baseball bat, as long as you don't press charges? [15:06] That's weird. [15:06] did I miss anything, I was called away for a few minutes [15:06] You missed everything. [15:06] EVERYTHING [15:06] so much [15:06] Yes, but you can decide NOT to press charges, and it all goes away. [15:07] ah, crap [15:07] haha [15:07] I'm just kinda kidding. [15:07] * rudeboy slaps self in the face [15:07] I missed some too. [15:07] I'm suing me! [15:07] boot to the head is better than a slap [15:07] LOL [15:07] * rudeboy reboots his head [15:07] Damn, steel toes [15:08] that friggin hurts [15:10] yea! Betamax rocked.... [15:10] Not everyone cares that bloody much about the copyright on their own works. The CMCC makes me proud to be Canadian! [15:11] Copying for time-shift is okay by law. [15:12] The Canadian government was talked into adding a "we're assuming everyone pirates" charge to blank media, to pay to artists. That, I think, sucks. [15:12] and Time Shifting for the purpose of copying is against the 3165 Cloning Act [15:12] Yeah, we had the cassette tape tax [15:13] which is silly, as how many people still use audio cassettes? [15:13] And all that "blank tape tax" money goes to the record companies -- all five of them [15:14] rudeboy: are you talking about vhs or audio cassettes / reel-to-reel? I didn't know there was such a (US) tax! [15:14] it was passed by congress in the 80s [15:14] audio cassettes and RtR [15:14] which is now almost defunct media given the current tech [15:15] The original Superman cartoons are available on the Internet. I'm pretty sure it's on the level. I think it is copyrighted, but it's no longer being enforced. There's nothing wrong with that. [15:15] The Fleisher Supermans? [15:15] eat more christians [15:15] They may be public domain [15:15] I think so, the very first ones. [15:16] As far as I know, they are the first ones [15:16] Made in thelate 30s early 40s [15:16] "Frisbee" [15:16] jello [15:16] or not [15:17] they then released it for sale after it escaped to online viewing [15:17] Their house keeper or some such snuck it out [15:17] * Ammerz has quit IRC (Ammerz) [15:18] Maybe you should invite Jason to the Atheist Experience after-show dinner. [15:19] i stole an eraser once when i was 10. [15:21] Bakup episode will be up by 5. [15:21] * ouini has quit IRC (ouini) [15:22] isn't the Bible in public domain? Shouldn't they all be free..? [15:22] it's the most STOLEN book [15:23] in bookstores [15:23] I think Bibles actually have a copyright at the beginning. Isn't that interesting. [15:23] the King James bible is public domain but moth other translations are COPYRIGHTED! [15:23] KJV is public, most other buybull's are copywrighted as far as i know. [15:23] I'm for making it the most burned book.... oops, perhaps I shouldn't advocate such a thing [15:23] NIV is copyrighted...but they're difficult to enforce (from what I understand) [15:23] yeah, the copyright must be on the translation [15:23] okay, make it the most presto logged book [15:23] yes [15:23] and Jack Chick (a KJV-only tract author) makes hay out of that. "You can't copyright god's word" is his line. [15:24] could you repeat that, Jeff? [15:25] Have you ever told the truth? Brilliant... [15:25] Yes, Comfort got away with murder. [15:25] Comfort wouldn't answer the question "Have you ever told the truth?" [15:26] love it... [15:26] Well done guys, good show as always [15:26] nice show [15:26] see ya... [15:27] see everyone in two [15:27] * Dave63 has left #nonprophets [15:27] * rudeboy has left #nonprophets [15:27] * Indefual has left #nonprophets [15:27] Eeeeeeexcellent [15:28] * SydneyBarrett has left #nonprophets [15:28] was someone going to post a link to something [15:30] * atxcats has quit IRC (atxcats) [15:31] thanks non-prophets, even though i disagree with jeff's hard stance on piracy... Long Live the Non-Prophets! [15:31] * Aaiw has quit IRC [15:33] -> *chanserv* topic #nonprophets Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, July 1st, 2006! at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes. [15:33] * ChanServ changes topic to 'Tune in to the next LIVE Non-Prophets show, Saturday, July 1st, 2006! at 3:00 PM EST on http://www.nonprophetsradio.com, or visit the website for archived episodes. (Non-Prophets)' [16:06] * Billy-FTR has quit IRC [16:06] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat Jun 17 16:06:48 2006