Session Start: Sat Sep 17 10:01:19 2011 Session Ident: #nonprophets [10:01] * Now talking in #nonprophets [10:01] * Topic is 'The Non-Prophets will not be live on the 10th of Septemper 2011 at 10am CDT, 3pm UTC. Stream can be found on http://www.bitsizzle.com:9000/nonprophets -Visit http://nonprophetsradio.com/ at your leisure.' [10:01] * Set by debdrup!debdrup@nerdheaven.ws on Sat Sep 10 08:09:59 [10:01] * ChanServ sets mode: +ao Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [10:01] Show starting in about 1 hour [10:02] * tom has joined #nonprophets [10:06] :D [10:06] * Freethinker23 has joined #nonprophets [10:07] does the show start at 11am central time today? [10:08] its supposed to start at 10:30 I think... though Matt is talking to someone now [10:08] 52mins approx [10:09] nvm matt just sait its starting at 11 [10:09] who is he talking to now? [10:09] Oh yeah...forgot I was streaming [10:10] someone named Tenya I think [10:10] lol [10:10] * Ed has joined #nonprophets [10:11] That's Tanya Smith...she's the current president of AAI (Atheist Alliance International). We're going to do a quick interview at the top of the show [10:11] AFK [10:11] cool [10:11] sweet! [10:13] Here's a clip of Porky Pig reciting the Pledge of Allegiance in it's original form: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33-5MbIE7eQ [10:15] How long till the show starts? [10:15] 45 minutes [10:15] Ohhh ok they pushed it back one hout [10:15] hour [10:16] yes it'll be at 11am CDT from now on [10:16] ok, cool. Time to go to the supermarket then! [10:16] You may be wrong FF23. Matt did say that it may change again in the future. [10:17] And next week, it's going to be at 10:30 (assuming everyone agrees) and I'm hoping to make that the official time. [10:17] just tell Russell to get his ass out of bed earlier [10:17] Please update the webpage with the correct time [10:17] As soon as we decide on the correct time, we'll update the webpage [10:18] For now, only the most dedicated listeners get to find the live show. It's like a secret club! [10:18] lol [10:18] * User has joined #nonprophets [10:18] Or just listen carefully to the announcements on AETV [10:18] this show is like the second coming of Jesus...no one knows the day or the hour [10:18] * Bayes has joined #nonprophets [10:18] I've always wanted to know... if you guys do Non Prophets on Saturdays and AE on Sundsays.... [10:18] when do you guys party?! [10:19] when does the show start? [10:19] 40m [10:19] 40 metres is a long time [10:19] yeah [10:19] when will more than 30 people be able to stream the show? [10:19] at least it's not 40 parsecs [10:20] how long is a parsec? [10:20] 31 trillion km [10:20] Ed really? [10:20] Matts connection was upgrade a while ago. [10:20] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsec [10:20] ok [10:21] thansk [10:21] im off to buy some stuff [10:21] brb [10:21] but isn't the show moving to a new building? [10:21] In time. [10:22] * lb has joined #nonprophets [10:22] are they on the air? [10:22] The stream is up but I'm not hearing anything. Dead air? [10:22] * Microbiologychick has joined #nonprophets [10:22] hmmm [10:22] show is at 11am CDT [10:22] * sn1989 has joined #nonprophets [10:22] will this show become more popular? [10:22] 37 minutes [10:22] It's not already? [10:22] no [10:22] it is [10:22] 3pm is 5pm my time. so looks like it'd have already started [10:23] Ib where are you? [10:23] spain? [10:23] or should anyway [10:23] l, not I. :) Germany, User [10:23] on in 40 ish minutes [10:23] Show is in about 40 minutes! [10:23] oh okay [10:23] Has anyone else tried out the weirdness that is windows 8? I am running it at the moment. [10:24] Germany is a nice country [10:24] Microbiologychick: is that according to plan? if yes, I think that would be 4pm UTC [10:24] mond, do you like Windows 8? [10:24] Not sure... [10:24] why? [10:24] (Mond = "moon" in German) [10:25] Its not too different in some ways but strange in others [10:25] hey Beth, I've got a potential GB topic for you...atheists who are against abortion. Biblical scholar/critic Robert M. Price is such a person. [10:25] mond: is it on msdnaa? [10:25] mond is just the second syllable of my 1st name. [10:25] ah, right there are Raymonds and Richmonds [10:26] Damond? [10:26] mond, you think it will be popular? [10:26] I am happy with windows 7 [10:26] @Freethinker23, there is a pro-life atheist named Jen Roth who appears on pro-life podcasts too... [10:26] Mr Comfort has brought shame to my 1st name ;-) [10:27] lol [10:27] There's no 'mond' in Douchebag [10:27] Christopher Hitchens is somewhat prolife. He is against abortion at some point in the pregnancy. [10:27] @mond [10:28] Price mentioned abortion on the Aug. 30 and Sept 2nd Bible Geek podcasts. http://www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com/biblegeek.htm [10:28] I'm against 60th trimester aborions [10:29] I'm for them in Rick Perry's case [10:29] Rick Perry is a good looking guy [10:29] and he made it manditory for girls to get the hpv vaccine [10:29] Perry looks like Mitt Romney and sounds like George W. Bush [10:29] * Kleti has joined #nonprophets [10:30] @user, he's good looking until he opens his mouth [10:30] * [19Uhr30] has joined #nonprophets [10:30] was there a show or is there going to be one? (i'm rather confused about the changes of airtime) [10:31] Perry could be our next president [10:31] <[19Uhr30]> there will be a show in about half an hour, i think. [10:31] ok great. thanks [10:31] I'm not sure how I feel about mandatory vaccines. It is a public danger if a lot of people aren't vaccinated [10:31] it should be madatory [10:32] not only to the people who aren't vaccinated, but to a small percentage of those that are [10:32] Freethinker, I agree [10:33] There are a small number of people in the population who can't or won't be population. Especially the immune compromised. Mandatory vaccination protects the whole population. [10:33] I mean "won't be vaccinated" [10:33] I learned yesterday that it's been 14 years since my last tetanus shot. far too long. [10:34] Do you get flu shots in Germany? [10:34] It has probably been at least that long for me, as well [10:34] people do, User. I haven't. >_< [10:35] I haven't either [10:35] i got the flu shot last year [10:35] and they are giving the same flu shot this year so I probably won't get the flu shot this year [10:35] I have the excuse to be immunologically challenged :( [10:35] Ib really? [10:37] Good chance that I'll need to reboot this machine before the show...if so, the stream will drop and be restarted. [10:37] To answer other questions: [10:37] i'm not quite shure how i feel about flu shots.. with all the others i'm up to date. but to me, they are somewhat pointless.. [10:37] 1. The 30-person limit has been gone for months. It's now at 100...and can raise once we're sure that doesn't cause problems [10:38] 2. The show starts in about 20 minutes....next week it'll probably start 10 minutes ago (time travel paradox, there...) [10:38] * gtblackwell has joined #nonprophets [10:38] so how many do actually connect? [10:38] we are all living in the past [10:39] 3. With shows on Saturday and Sunday, when do we party? Um... Monday - Friday! We're all filthy rich from doing free shows, so life is a nearly constant party. :P [10:39] I love how some of the Republicans cheer when the candidates talk about death. "We use the death penalty" *cheers* "Let people fend for themselves if they don't want to buy health insurance" *cheers* Ugh. [10:39] Damn, my flux capacitor has gone in the shop for its 2million year service. [10:39] <[19Uhr30]> funny windows noises.... they come from the stream, don't they? [10:39] yes [10:39] yes those are from the stream [10:39] 4. Flu vaccines are a bit of a gamble, but one worth taking. Herd immunity is a good thing [10:40] 5. Abortion should be safe and legal... [10:40] Funny human noises come from the stream also. [10:40] 6. More questions later...maybe another AMA on Reddit [10:41] Anybody else getting no sound or just me? [10:41] There is no sound to get [10:41] the Republican appeal to a lot of uneducated people [10:41] no sound because they aren't saying anything [10:41] oh [10:41] Funny human noises come from the stream also. - that was a future prediction. [10:42] * strongernow has joined #nonprophets [10:42] @Microbiologychick, Will Dax Kitty be joining the non-prophets today? [10:43] Yes, he will. [10:43] Dax Kitty is only on the show for cheap trills. [10:44] But Matt is mad at Dax kitty right now because he got scratched last night. [10:44] rebooting again? [10:44] What did Matt do wrong? [10:44] That was the shortest show ever. [10:44] My cat's breath smells like cat food. [10:45] Dax kitty was running around the bedroom like crazy and Dax ran right over his face. [10:45] I see, so Matt failed to dodge the kitten correctly. [10:46] * tom has quit IRC (Broken pipe) [10:46] brb [10:47] * tom has joined #nonprophets [10:47] cats are silly [10:47] I actually don't understand how household with cats can consider themselves atheist. Since a cats require constant worship, adoration and an occasional blood sacrifice [10:47] True, but that would make them, at most, deist households [10:47] Since cat's take no interest in the affairs of humans [10:48] Wow. Misplaced apostrophe. [10:48] A being can require constant worship, adoration and occasional blood sacrifice without deity claims. [10:49] like me [10:49] Yes, oh great one. [10:50] the plasma is in the post [10:50] very nice [10:52] Rebooting [10:52] No more Eminem for you Session Start: Sat Sep 17 10:55:47 2011 Session Ident: #nonprophets [10:55] * Now talking in #nonprophets [10:55] * Topic is 'The Non-Prophets will not be live on the 10th of Septemper 2011 at 10am CDT, 3pm UTC. Stream can be found on http://www.bitsizzle.com:9000/nonprophets -Visit http://nonprophetsradio.com/ at your leisure.' [10:55] * Set by debdrup!debdrup@nerdheaven.ws on Sat Sep 10 08:09:59 [10:55] hey micrbiology chick i and my wife love yourgodless bitches podcast! [10:55] * ChanServ sets mode: +ao Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [10:56] Ok stream should be back up and ready...reconnect [10:56] <[19Uhr30]> Oh no... more Eminem... [10:56] Thanks! [10:57] is there a show today? [10:57] Yes [10:58] Hippie music [10:58] is this the show opening? [10:59] Denis isn't here yet. [10:59] * pghatheist has joined #nonprophets [11:00] * Kazim has joined #nonprophets [11:00] speaking of the Nazis (in the song), did you know that before WWII, people did a Roman salute to the American flag during the Pledge of Allegiance? Hitler ruins everything. [11:00] * Armoes has joined #nonprophets [11:00] So sad. [11:00] Heya heya [11:01] * kermie has joined #nonprophets [11:01] hi russel! :) [11:01] @ Kazinm: Hey Russel. [11:01] Hitler is the only person in history to single-handedly ruin a facial hair style [11:02] what is that song, sounds like sympathy for the devil but different than what i have in memory? [11:02] it is sympathy for the devil, but not the Rolling Stones version [11:02] Yeah, that's a cover. The original was the Rolling Stones [11:02] Was it janes addiction? [11:02] <[19Uhr30]> to me it is just "that song from interview with a vampire".... [11:02] * kermie is now known as skurys [11:02] Is anyone else having connection drops? [11:02] That's so sad [11:03] Yup. [11:03] What makes you think your connection dropped? I stopped the music [11:03] @ ed, yup [11:03] i am having drops [11:03] still connected [11:03] * exBeliever has joined #nonprophets [11:03] * DCro has joined #nonprophets [11:03] My stream stopped as well [11:03] I know that, but before that winamp kept getting disconnected and rebuffering [11:03] same here [11:03] yep me 2 [11:03] @ non-prophets: iTunes paused to 'rebuffer' [11:03] iTunes.... [11:04] I had to restart a few times on vlc. [11:04] I thought I went deaf. [11:05] dropped again [11:05] hello [11:05] Hi [11:05] hi!!! [11:05] I feel like a groupie [11:06] lol, i am totally a groupie [11:06] heya [11:06] * dhsj has joined #nonprophets [11:06] good day nonprophets groupies! [11:06] ok cool, getting sound from the stream now [11:06] Hey, some of you guys (Non prophets) are into gaming [11:06] @ mond: Cool, I tried VLC. Worked. [11:06] * LKK has joined #nonprophets [11:06] we had a couple of Atheists vs Christians on our BF1942 server [11:06] Any topic today? [11:06] Ed: yeah, they're playing with our minds now :) [11:07] Atheists won... [11:07] * Avon has joined #nonprophets [11:07] Coldplay? [11:07] meh, ok [11:07] We don't have enough headphones, so I'm going to go eat some breakfast. [11:07] coming through now [11:07] hi russell [11:08] can we get a 3 stooges Hello, hello Hello! ? [11:08] The prayers worked! [11:08] yeah, proof that God answers prayers... o.O [11:08] Amen! [11:08] * Xios5 has joined #nonprophets [11:08] RAmen [11:08] Yes there is, unnamed guest [11:09] Australian from the accent i think [11:09] idd XB [11:09] Guest is Tanya Smith from AAI [11:10] still having connection problems. [11:10] stupid stream, stop buffering [11:10] mine keeps buffering as well [11:10] same here [11:10] same here :( [11:10] yup [11:10] god is trying to keep us from hearing the show [11:10] Anybody not having problems? [11:11] I still have no audio [11:11] <[19Uhr30]> yes... I guess I will have to listen to the recording... [11:11] mine is coming in good now [11:11] Good thing skype doesn't have the same connectivity issues that the stream does [11:11] Is that emma? [11:11] got it again [11:11] talking about mark from austin stone [11:11] 2nd Law! [11:11] AE Phone upgrade? Way cool. [11:12] chatroom has been telling you Mark is a poe for months :D [11:12] or 'mark' not from austin stone [11:12] Yeah [11:12] meh, poe or not mark caused some interesting discussion [11:12] And laughs [11:12] matt: you need a drum roll or something so we know when you're starting :) [11:12] It's of course hard to know when it's 'mark'. It's not always going to be him... [11:12] stfu freethinkers. :) [11:12] jk [11:12] Kazim is mark! [11:12] ...or a theme song [11:13] I think Dennis counts as a theme song [11:13] <[19Uhr30]> the stream seams to be fine now... [11:13] lost stream totally [11:13] Still having problems [11:13] I hear cold play... [11:13] i had a glitch, but it's back now [11:14] hearing the song ftw [11:14] My mouth was full, I wasn't ready! [11:14] working as intended, Armoes [11:14] magic man broke it? [11:14] stream is breaking of every few seconds [11:14] hi Beth [11:14] well, I was hearing the song [11:14] haha [11:14] <[19Uhr30]> mehhh... lost it again... [11:14] No idea why some are having stream problems...you'll have to grab the podcast, I guess. No time to fix it. [11:14] damn it me too [11:14] okay [11:14] yeah no worries [11:14] stream seems to be iffy if u use the npr website link but not the one in the chat [11:15] It's all gravy :) I can deal with little pauses [11:15] I usually listen to shows 3 or 4 times each week so it's cool [11:15] thanks skurys [11:15] go to non-prophets homepage and re-open the stream [11:16] awww [11:16] zing! [11:16] the bitsizzle-link works fine! [11:16] i'll listen to the podcast [11:16] prayers came true...6 months later [11:17] or not :( i'll just listen to the podcast later... [11:17] Rick perry prayed for brain? [11:17] proof it does not work [11:17] whoa you're behind [11:17] I'm going to pray to win the lottery and expect to get it sometime next spring [11:17] if he did, that didnt work ither [11:17] yep [11:17] what is the bitsizzle add? [11:17] BRAAAAAINNNS [11:17] http://www.bitsizzle.com:9000/nonprophets [11:17] * gnardude has joined #nonprophets [11:17] who doesn't like a little fire? [11:18] cheers [11:18] when life gives you fire, make roasted marshmallows [11:18] ty for bitsizzle link, thats better [11:19] Originally australian but now french [11:19] <[19Uhr30]> thank's skurys! seams to work. [11:19] I was wrong. She sounds a lot like Emma from the 2nd Law podcast. [11:19] np [11:19] all australians sound the same [11:20] finally connected good [11:20] Hey! I'm Australian. That's racist. [11:20] yep, have the stream going. [11:21] getting Julia Gillard on this show would be awesome [11:21] * LKK has quit IRC (ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 5.0/20110615151330]) [11:21] I know all Americans sound alike to British people. [11:22] Cause I watch Doctor Who. [11:22] and us canadians dont all say 'eh' :P [11:22] LIES [11:22] If they get Julia Gillard on the show they officially manage to out-guest Ardent Atheist [11:23] hmm, Tanya in is france? That's a hell of a tie-in to the paris prayer ban story, Russell. [11:23] Kazim: this sounds like a dangerous us vs. them argument...we're all nuanced, but "they" are a monolithic demographic that are all alike [11:25] wow, that woman has guts! [11:25] yes [11:25] Great interview thus far. [11:27] No no, I"M a monolothic demographic too. [11:28] * kait82 has joined #nonprophets [11:28] I'm not [11:28] * Kazim has quit IRC (Client exited) [11:30] I've never been to an atheist convention, but going to a Rush concert was kind of like that [11:31] * strongernow has quit IRC (strongernow) [11:31] * Kazim has joined #nonprophets [11:32] I had someone try to tell me that atheism is a neurological disease the other day. I kid you not, they said they saw it on some show. [11:32] ...I'm sorry, that's several levels of stupid [11:33] * MindyinCyprus has joined #nonprophets [11:33] @ DCro, let's hope we can spread it then. [11:33] who is Rush? [11:33] There's a facebook thing called 'athism is a mental illness, it's been proved' or something. It's full of all kind of trolling [11:33] Rush - band, check out 'free will' [11:33] Rush is a Canadian rock band. They have a lot of atheist/agnostic songs [11:33] 'atheism is mental illness' is simply an appeal to ridicule. it proves nothing. [11:33] I think they used a rush song a while back as the into to nonProphets, am I wrong? [11:33] idd XB [11:34] they did, DCro [11:34] Rush is a band of objectivists [11:34] Yes, more than one I think Dro [11:34] DCro* [11:34] * pghatheist has quit IRC (pghatheist) [11:34] check out the song "Faithless" [11:34] * kait82 has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [11:35] what if the atheists are the delusional ones [11:35] what if we are the wrong ones? [11:35] I didn't know about the ACA when I was in Austin. I feel I missed out. [11:35] @MicroBioChick: Damn beth, why you gotta ruin rush for me? WHY? [11:35] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxJKFu51lbM [11:35] Because I'm just mean [11:35] @User Kirk Cameron, is that you? [11:35] We are wrong, I saw Thor in a movie, he must be real [11:36] lol [11:36] :D [11:36] @User that is a strange twisting of Pascal's Wager [11:36] but nice [11:36] I'm just playing devil's advocate [11:36] Ah [11:36] kinda hard to tell over text [11:36] DCro: no, God gave Charlton Heston the ten commandments in the original king james version. I saw *that* in a movie too! :) [11:36] Now every time I hear 'Devil's advocate' I imagine Homer with that pinball machine [11:37] Jawa fund? [11:37] Yah..but Charlton Heston also Damned us all to hell! [11:37] details [11:37] yeah, but his kid got his butt kicked, Saw that in a movie, and Odin's kid kiced butt, who wins? Thor. [11:37] 'User' is the devil! (Something we don't believe in....) [11:37] I imagine the hot women in the movie Devil's Advocate [11:38] Thor? I'm tho thor I can hardly pith [11:38] User: you devil you [11:38] oh god, you devil [11:38] lol, reminds me of Sandman. [11:38] what about George Burns? [11:38] O God [11:38] O God , book 2 [11:38] Oh God, ooh you are so big [11:39] lol [11:39] @ user, there are an infinite number of 'what ifs'. I hate when someone says 'what if...' then appends any old unsupported crap. [11:39] Cyprus? [11:39] It's an island...yeah... [11:39] who actually lives in Cyprus? [11:39] Mindy apparently [11:39] Me and some guy I married...coupla turks [11:39] coupla greeks [11:39] ancient civilizations and whatnot [11:39] fun [11:40] cypriots live there :) [11:40] lol [11:40] so are you turkish or greek? [11:40] 90% religious [11:40] It's only like 6pm in France [11:40] Neither, I'm a US citizen [11:40] or are you tureek? [11:40] why are you in Cyprus, is your husband a drug lord [11:40] nooooo.... [11:40] obviously user [11:40] Atheistalliance.org, OMW [11:40] That was good guest. [11:40] yep [11:40] HOW DARE THEY?! [11:41] DAMN YOU GOOGEL [11:41] what [11:41] oh [11:41] my streams behind [11:41] Google!! [11:41] AH, Russell's first news story, you'll get to it [11:41] So is mine [11:41] yeah, I am a little back on this. [11:41] It's a loooove story.... <3 [11:42] I met the so-called "mufti of cyprus" once... [11:42] For Non-Prophets?? [11:42] ...but not for discriminating organizations, yup [11:42] interesting! [11:43] og chuck is always fun! [11:43] oh, worship explicitly? okay [11:43] wow. [11:43] You cowards, too scared to give us free shit! [11:43] But but, the churches... [11:43] XD dhsj [11:43] Won't somebody please think of the church profits?! [11:43] it's cowardly to go against the majority of your customers [11:44] they are non prophets orginizations [11:44] the holy spirit speaks through the "profits" after all :) [11:44] wait, wait-do atheist organizations count under the rules? [11:44] Yes, I believe they do [11:44] The gravy train has now stopped on google railways. [11:44] yes they do [11:44] socialism is evil! give all your money to the church so they can re-distribute it! [11:44] But google are a private organisation so they can do whatever they like [11:45] for free stuff?? nice [11:45] true tho [11:45] "Places or institutions of worship (e.g., churches, ministries, temples, synagogues) " [11:45] Christianity is like homeopathy: the more diluted it is the more effective it thinks it should be [11:45] "Groups serving a primarily political function such as lobbying, think tanks and special interests " [11:46] no and no [11:46] Getting a warning that the certificate expired on the HTTPS side of Atheistalliance.org, anyone else have this issue? [11:46] oh, but they have discrimination as a factor disqualifying you after all: [11:46] "Religious content or proselytizing on website as well as organizations that use religion or sexual orientation as factor in hiring or populations served " [11:46] no the more diluted the harder it is to argue against their fuzzy claims lol [11:46] @dhjs LOL [11:47] oh darn [11:47] skurys: the RCC has walked this fine line for centuries [11:47] oh well [11:48] awkard small talk at the pride festival ;-) [11:48] Blessing missed [11:49] women "manning" a booth is an awkward expression too [11:49] :) [11:49] One of the Christian booths had a drag queen handing out info [11:49] Know your THAC0 before you try to bless [11:49] I was in the bathroom but did I herar Denis go Godwin? [11:49] I want to walk up to a Christian booth and tell them I will sacrifice a goat for them [11:49] hear* [11:49] Take the bless spell. Gods exist in DnD [11:50] Armoes: I always try to adhere to the 'atheist' voluntary challenge in nethack [11:50] @freethinker- film it [11:50] EXb Explain [11:50] no praying, no sacrificing [11:50] The separation from God' thing is nice [11:51] theologically but makes for terrible horror films [11:51] a gateway belief [11:51] Yeah, get to into the harder stuff [11:51] ExB, fair enough. I never lilked playing clerics. Didn't want to have anything to do with a church, even in an RPG [11:51] Before you know it you're accepting 3 or 4 impossible things before breakfast [11:51] @Armoes same here [11:52] thought russel was gonna say burned lol [11:52] dhsj: nah, just be a cafeteria accepter of impossible things. then maybe only accept 1 impossible thing before breakfast... [11:52] dhsj, you are such a cool frood. [11:52] I know where my towel is, mond :) [11:53] You must be a real hoopy frood, dhsj [11:53] I think the Phelps are trolls [11:53] apropos of nothing [11:53] i think [11:54] ok, Atheist Alliance International Membership paid. [11:54] We can hear it [11:54] ohhhh the divorce thing! [11:54] listening to Pat makes me really get ill [11:54] You need to find Jeff to do the imitation [11:55] I...agree with Pat Robertson. Ugh, need a shower. [11:55] That isn't Jeff? [11:55] It's difficult to tell [11:55] Believer or not, Phelps is (sort of) on our side. [11:55] my connection's bad [11:55] Damn subjective morallity. [11:55] I can't agree with that..... [11:56] Pat's wife should divorce him...he is senile [11:56] @dhsj That made me laugh ("Isn't that Jeff Dee?") [11:56] You wouldn't disown a sick child... [11:56] yeah [11:56] @MindyinCyprus: Maybe you wouldn't..... JK [11:56] point conceded... [11:56] lol Beth [11:57] haha [11:57] just heard it [11:57] hehe [11:57] Because of issues with aging parents, my partner and I have had many discussions about all of this stuff...such as DNRs and whatnot [11:57] beth, you have a hall pass :) [11:57] Besides, you won't remember it happened anyway [11:58] Is Alzheimer's a kind of effective afterlife then? [11:58] but. . but. . God is only in charge when he agrees with ME! [11:59] No DCro; God is in charge and he ALWAYS agrees with me [11:59] Maybe Pat had this position because alzheimer's comes later in life... [11:59] after many years of being together? [12:00] Ronald Reagan may have had alzheimer's while still president...look at how he forgot all about the arms for hostages for example [12:00] No way, the DHSJ church is a one way ticket to hell, MY church is the right one. [12:00] Maybe he had this position because he's consistently a dick? [12:00] Haha [12:00] lol [12:00] Do both parties not have to have some input into divorcing? Like signing paperwork etc. [12:00] Not necessarily, depends on if you have grounds [12:01] Like you can insist on divorce in cases of adultery [12:01] dhsj: not true in most jurisdictions... [12:01] fair enough, ymmv [12:01] dhsj: no fault divorce is the norm in 49 states [12:01] * Kleti has left #nonprophets [12:01] which is the exception [12:01] Oh, OK, European here [12:02] But even with no fault, do both parties have to be served papers etc. [12:02] which state doesn't have no fault divorce as the norm? [12:02] Did Denis just suggest Pat/Newt slash fiction? [12:02] doh! [12:02] I think I'm going to throw up [12:02] Ew [12:02] bwahaha [12:02] mond: yes, you get served but signing it is to acknowledge receipt not agreement in general [12:02] anyone else lose the feed? [12:03] for asec [12:03] but it came back [12:03] yep [12:03] try the bitfeed Mindy: http://www.bitsizzle.com:9000/nonprophets [12:03] bitsizzle, whatever [12:03] How can someone who is 'kind of dead' acknowledge receipt? [12:03] zombies? [12:04] Thanks! [12:04] Slap a pen in the hand, wiggle the paper around under it [12:04] Depends on if they have enough to buy a miracle. [12:04] true, true that [12:04] yay! [12:04] HAve fun Storming the castle. . . [12:04] mod: idk, same story with MIA's though - divorces happen in absentia [12:05] Yeah Beth, it's like the 'one nation, UNDER GOD...' thing [12:05] Not really a divorce for MIA's. Assumption of death, is not a divorce. [12:06] true [12:06] It's a self defense mechanism [12:06] You're challenged so shout louder [12:06] * MindyinCyprus has quit IRC (MindyinCyprus) [12:06] christians in the United states are used to getting things their way [12:07] I like when Christians copy/paste stuff from Christian/creationist websites into forum posts instead of making their own arguments [12:07] Omm Nomm Copy Pasta [12:07] It really annoys me [12:07] but it does tell you that they didn't even bother to think for themselves [12:07] imagine Jesus turning over all the election tables and voting booths in a church... :) [12:08] lol [12:08] haha [12:09] @ExB. Just thinking that if a husband has power of atourney over his wife then could he agree to divorcing himself? [12:09] lol, was just about to say that [12:09] they need to do SOMETHINg to pay us back for the taxes they skip out on [12:10] lol, perhaps - and make a deal with himself on the child custody part - that would really save tons of time, money, and emotions wouldn't it [12:10] lol [12:10] * Sonic has joined #nonprophets [12:10] * Sonic 4,15Buenas a tod@s! :) Ya estoy aquí!! xD [12:10] yikes, color! [12:10] Agreed what the heck [12:11] que? [12:11] saludos sonic [12:11] español xfavor [12:11] or chairs and a parkinglot [12:11] ;) [12:11] ah, no hablo espanol [12:11] or habla [12:11] not sure [12:11] * Bayes has quit IRC (WikkedWire CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) [12:12] O.O [12:12] ? [12:12] o.O [12:12] O,O owl [12:12] * Sonic 11,1Adios a tod@s! ;) saludos, cuidense y sean buenos [12:12] la llama es más grande que la rana [12:12] * Sonic has left #nonprophets [12:12] huh? [12:13] :-( my lack of a second language embarases me. [12:13] lol [12:13] a "multi-purpose" secular building - we should do the math on the cost/benefit analysis [12:13] interesting idea though [12:13] ...so confused [12:13] and I'm working on german so... [12:13] Sonic said goodbye to use, told us to take care and be well. [12:13] us* [12:13] Viel Erfolg, Xios5. I'm working on English. :) [12:14] It's gonna be like tearing a phone directory in half? [12:14] Ich habe kleine Deutsch Ib [12:14] Oh OK, Jefferson-ing it [12:14] And I don't think that's right [12:14] but good enough i think [12:14] I learned a small amount of french about 28 years ago. [12:15] matt: just use MS Word [12:15] Enschuldigung [12:15] Yay, Ray Comfort [12:15] You'd have a pamphlet [12:15] pamphlet? spider-web more like [12:15] Wie gehts es innen? [12:16] <[19Uhr30]> Innen? Nicht anders als außen! ;-) [12:16] mond, hangs his head. My fellow Ray is such a douche. [12:16] Innen? [12:16] *rolls eyes* [12:16] there are some key passages in the Old Testament that are mis-translated in most Christian versions [12:16] Was passiert um neunzehn Uhr dreissig? [12:17] <[19Uhr30]> @scott1328 Ich vermute mal, dass da nichts besonderes passiert... [12:17] 3 men? the mechanics are confusing [12:17] <[19Uhr30]> Aber ich werde es in 13 Minuten wissen... [12:17] You should all just make a recording of the "why christianity" answer and play it once a month. [12:17] Oh sure, like seeing a bunch of hung guys is going to put any gays off the idea [12:18] penile code? [12:18] Warum heissen Sie sich 19Uhr30? [12:19] scott1328: what? [12:19] Freethinker, what is an example of a mistranslation? [12:19] I'm an enlightened muslim - that's why I left the religion... [12:19] scott1328: "heißen" is not used as a reflexive verb in German (: [12:19] woo indeed [12:19] Do you still identify as a Muslim? [12:19] Red Sea is actually "Sea of reeds" [12:19] <[19Uhr30]> @scott Well... It was kind of a juvenile contest among me and my friends. Who comes up with the most original nickname. So... I came up with this one and kept it until today... [12:19] * djastram has quit IRC (djastram) [12:20] does she even have a chance of getting elected? [12:20] Yes....sadly [12:20] scary stuff [12:20] mond: no [12:20] but small [12:20] scott1328: that means 7:30pm, but I'm sure you already knew that :D [12:20] * AllFiend has joined #nonprophets [12:20] "in the beginning, God" is better translated as "when God began to" [12:20] AllFiend? eh? [12:20] I am a former cathlick. That identity is dead for me. [12:20] * gtblackwell has quit IRC (gtblackwell) [12:20] mond, well doe [12:20] done [12:20] I am also a former Lutheran [12:21] Oh yes. What was Bachmann vaccinated against? [12:21] so what is the true religion then? [12:21] I am a former zygote [12:21] that identity is dead for me [12:21] neil degrasse tyson for pres [12:21] <[19Uhr30]> @mond But according to the catholic church you are still a catholic. Just an excommunicated one. :-) [12:21] thatll be the day [12:22] why neil degrasse tyson, he is a scientist and not a politician [12:22] http://i.imgur.com/miIqM.jpg [12:22] me too [12:22] Why don't we get any scientists running for President? [12:22] thats the prob, do we really want a politician in office, its practically a requirement to be a fake and liar [12:22] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQTyktUuC4g&feature=related [12:23] <[19Uhr30]> they are to smart to want that job [12:23] would a scientist make a good president [12:23] he's not running [12:23] Yeh, I guess I am still counted when they want to exert inflence by how big they are in terms of followers. [12:23] User click that link [12:23] and scientists have low people skills a lot of the time [12:23] USER [12:23] Freethinker23: scientists don't generally know shit about politics [12:23] please click that link [12:23] politicians don't know shit about economics [12:24] i've seen that [12:24] low people skills? [12:24] politicians don't like misleading people [12:24] you forgot dis in there [12:24] yes, I would say on average, they have lower people skills [12:24] I don't know about that [12:24] perhaps, but Tyson has excellent people skills [12:25] So? [12:25] People skills can be learned [12:25] prob is i think intelligence scares %50 of the voters [12:25] hence bush getting 2 terms [12:25] if you give a retarded girl HPV vaccine, she will still be retarded after [12:25] * Symbion has joined #nonprophets [12:25] <[19Uhr30]> @mond I guess I am not counted as a catholic any more. In Germany you have to declare that you left the church at a state institution to avoid "church taxes". But the catholics can still claim my soul because I was baptised... ;-) [12:26] @ 19Uhr-yeah....I've never gone to church a day in my life...but I was baptised... [12:26] vote for Rick Parry [12:26] with an A [12:27] Xios5: where were you baptised then? In the river Jordan? [12:27] haha, no. Ireland [12:27] <[19Uhr30]> @Xios5 Oh... I went to church a lot. I was even an altar boy... [12:27] <-- colbert fan [12:27] Okay, the catholics do a magic ceremony or two when you are too young to know any better. It don't mean shit. [12:27] yeah [12:27] yeah, but I'm on the rolls [12:27] that's the thing [12:28] So when they say they have 1 bil or whatever they claim [12:28] I'm included [12:28] it's funny that Colbert is a Catholic who teaches Sunday School [12:28] Xios5: I've heard of people who write their diocese a letter and ask for excommunication [12:28] I have to wrangle the information out of my family... [12:28] Working on it [12:28] 'single prayer', like it [12:29] Colbert plays a character on TV. [12:30] Yes he does [12:30] <[19Uhr30]> That much is obvious... [12:30] everybody plays a character on TV [12:30] Considering how much he cracks up [12:30] like "Snooki" - what a pos she is [12:30] What? this is madness, Matt! [12:30] The actor who play Matt Dillahunty sucks. [12:30] a local church has a Good Friday tradition in which members pray on each step leading up to the church (there's like 200 steps). A local radio DJ went there one Friday and asked an old woman "mind if I pray through?" haha [12:30] fear of terrorist attacks? [12:31] nuc-u-lur proliferation! [12:31] riddle? [12:31] what about gay terrorists? [12:31] The gaze is real bad... [12:32] why do Christians demonize the Muslims? [12:32] <[19Uhr30]> @user competition [12:32] cos they can sodomise them [12:32] rivals [12:33] cos they can't sodomise them [12:33] ooops [12:33] ew... [12:33] the voles in my backyard must be christians because they're monogamous - with that, I'm going to bomb them [12:33] Leanna! [12:33] vols are monogamous? how cute [12:33] keyboard cat, play us out [12:33] voles* [12:34] I remember that song, listened to it many years ago [12:34] See you chatroom [12:34] in better quality tbh [12:34] linny deelly is the best NP [12:34] bye, dhsj [12:34] * dhsj has quit IRC (dhsj) [12:34] Bye [12:34] <[19Uhr30]> Bye [12:34] * Xios5 has left #nonprophets [12:34] * [19Uhr30] has left #nonprophets [12:34] when are they putting the podcast up? [12:35] User: faster than TAE from my experience [12:35] in a few hours probably [12:35] cool [12:35] was it a good show? [12:35] that was not information whatsoever...TAE usually is on ~5 hours after airtime [12:35] yes, good show [12:35] I'll have the podcast posted within 30 minutes or so [12:36] song is still playing, but on the down-low [12:36] Thanks for the great show folks. [12:36] wow that's quick, Non-Prophets. thx [12:36] Thanks Non-Prophets [12:36] Thanks from the uk [12:36] which Republican candidate would be the least offensive nominee? [12:37] the ones that have dropped out [12:37] of the ones that are left [12:37] FT: MItt might be less likely to push his religion [12:37] I'd go with Huntsman because of his pro-science stance [12:37] FT: Gary johnson (Who doesn't even get into the debates) would be a better choice... [12:38] FT Huntsman. Nod. Not bad. [12:38] haven't even heard of him (go figure) [12:38] pro-science candidates wouldn't win the republican nomination [12:38] * tom has quit IRC (tom) [12:38] It is stupid how the media gets to pick the front-runners [12:39] GJ lists where he stands, so... that's not good right? [12:39] http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/issues [12:39] what if all the nonbelievers moved to the same state and voted out of the country and formed their own [12:39] lol [12:39] BUT... Science makes a country strong and powerful.... [12:39] I'm voting for Ron Paul in the republican primary [12:40] * Kazim has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [12:41] I wonder how long the USA would last everone spit on science and really embraced the bible. Not good. [12:41] Welcome to dumbfuckistan [12:41] The after-show comments, as usual, were funnier than the shit you actually heard. :) [12:41] science *education* needs to be emphasized, if indeed education is a constitutionally-allowable political aim [12:42] Religion will lose in the long run in the usa [12:42] the truth is on our side [12:42] the information and internet will it [12:43] will kill it [12:43] so i see it goes one of two ways, a - it turns like in star trek where religion is a minority backward tribe here and there that refuses to change (maybe the phelps descendants) [12:43] or we all go kaboom [12:44] and destroy each other [12:44] globothermonuclear style [12:44] does religion lead to nuclear armegeddon? [12:44] Pehaps, someday, outspoken belief in a deity will be as rare as being Amish [12:44] the cold war wasn't a religious war [12:44] * Microbiologychick has quit IRC (Microbiologychick) [12:44] Science creates the nuclear weapons that religion will detonate. [12:45] some countries in Europe are very non religious [12:45] carl sagan - "every thinking person fears nuclear war" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6oZuj3Hgb4 [12:45] It was a war over political dogma [12:45] * sn1989 has quit IRC (This must be heaven, have I found it? What I've been looking for. This must be heaven, have I finally stumbled through the door?) [12:45] Most people in charge see a Nuclear War as a net loss. Hopefully it stays that way... [12:45] it would be really interesting to see what would happen if our country split up into 4 nations, one a secular liberal nation, one a Christian conservative nation, one a libertarian nation, and one a socialist nation. [12:46] each inheriting 1/4 of the current debt [12:46] thank God the cold war is over [12:46] all it takes is one madman with a nuke [12:46] even if its not religious per se... i think theres alot of it thats tied into it... if you believe you go to heaven after you die, i religious person is more likely to push that button than non religious [12:46] * Armoes has quit IRC (Armoes) [12:46] The war on terror has neatly taken the cold wars place but it is a bit more hot. [12:47] * exBeliever lives in Colorado Springs, CO - arguably the place where WWIII will start [12:48] Why do you think that ExB? [12:49] ExB? [12:49] lots of military installations are here, including cheyenne mountain where NORAD is [12:49] sweet [12:49] Thats is where wargames was filmed ;-) [12:50] love that movie [12:50] must be the nerd in me that remembers that stuff [12:50] it's ok to be a nerd [12:50] I haven't seen that movie in at least 20 years [12:50] yeah, there's a stargate inside the cheyenne mountain complex too :) [12:50] Carl Sagan is dead [12:51] oh no [12:51] Would like to play a nice game of chess? [12:51] lol [12:51] lol [12:51] * exBeliever sighs [12:51] * exBeliever misses Carl a lot [12:51] yeah [12:51] i am psyched for neil to do the new cosmos [12:51] whats is coming out in like 2013 ish? [12:51] He was married three times [12:51] I wonder if he was a nice guy in real life? [12:52] I've heard he was [12:52] but he was married three times. That makes me question how nice of a guy he was. [12:52] he went out of his way to help people [12:53] sometimes marriages just don't work out [12:53] Tyson is great - I've enjoyed every moment of Nova Science Now [12:53] true [12:53] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat Sep 17 12:53:45 2011