Session Start: Sat Jul 23 13:10:56 2011 Session Ident: #nonprophets [13:10] * Now talking in #nonprophets [13:10] * Topic is 'The Non-Prophets might be live on the 16th of July, 2011 at 2pm CDT, 7pm UTC. Stream will be live on http://www.bitsizzle.com:9000/nonprophets -Visit http://nonprophetsradio.com/ at your leisure.' [13:10] * Set by debdrup!debdrup@nerdheaven.ws on Sat Jul 16 13:45:29 [13:10] * ChanServ sets mode: +ao Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [13:11] oh yeah the creation museum... i've been [13:11] You went there? [13:12] when i was in high school, as a pit stop on choir tour [13:12] when i was still trying pretty hard to be christian [13:12] * sn1989 has joined #nonprophets [13:13] I wish I had a pet dinosaur. [13:13] Not sure if my dogs would approve though. [13:13] adam and eve did, why shouldn't you? [13:13] lol [13:14] The Ray Cumfart blog is interesting if you enjoy train-wrecks and unintentional comedy. [13:15] * protopod has joined #nonprophets [13:15] i get plenty of that from my parents, though i can't freely laugh at it [13:15] You still living at home? [13:16] @Anne, your school toured the Creation Museum??? [13:16] yup- closeted [13:16] nah, it was on choir tour with church [13:16] ok [13:17] Hi Beth. [13:17] hi [13:18] anyone else scavenge their local borders? [13:19] No such thing here. I'm a library guy. [13:20] * Freethinker23 has joined #nonprophets [13:20] lol @ "might be live" [13:22] the "philosophy" section (which is apparently a euphemism for atheism in east tennessee, is mostly untouched, except for my grubby little fingers [13:22] Get some! [13:23] Non-Prophets might be live...Amy Winehouse might not [13:23] got the god delusion, why we fight, we why need love, why our decisions don't matter, and do you think what you think you think? [13:24] I'm reading "A Short History of Nearly Everything" by Bill Bryson. [13:24] any good, gnardude? [13:25] Yeah, very good. It's kind of a 101 on a bunch of subjects, the histories of sciences. [13:26] sounds like a hodgman thing [13:26] We've got a great show for y'all today! [13:26] I'm presently reading Albert Camus' "The Stranger" [13:26] Any good? [13:27] i'm excited to be tuning in!! :) [13:27] * apparition has joined #nonprophets [13:27] Yes. It is interesting, if a bit dark. [13:27] i read that freshman year of college, it was.. weird [13:27] Looking forward to it, Beth [13:28] Special guest or something Microbiologychick? [13:28] the prof that assigned it was religious and dark and... just.. a longwinded douche in general, so my memory of it may be slightly off [13:28] Rick Fucking Perry will feature prominently. [13:28] prick perry! as martin called him [13:28] Perry is a nutjob [13:28] If he gets elected President, I will move to Canada [13:29] you all see david silverman's spot on fox? about the rick perry thing? [13:29] - [13:29] Is this the start of the show? or just random music? [13:29] Need to reboot this machine...those of you connected to the stream will have to reconnect. [13:29] amy winehouse! [13:30] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat Jul 23 13:30:00 2011 Session Start: Sat Jul 23 13:33:26 2011 Session Ident: #nonprophets [13:33] * Now talking in #nonprophets [13:33] * Topic is 'The Non-Prophets might be live on the 16th of July, 2011 at 2pm CDT, 7pm UTC. Stream will be live on http://www.bitsizzle.com:9000/nonprophets -Visit http://nonprophetsradio.com/ at your leisure.' [13:33] * Set by debdrup on Sat Jul 16 13:45:29 [13:33] * ChanServ sets mode: +ao Non-Prophets Non-Prophets [13:33] so its a good thing that he's praying for the definition of marriage to be between a man and a woman? [13:33] God was not swayed by Dick's efforts. [13:34] I have a pet spider. [13:35] .... [13:35] good for you? [13:35] Actually, I have a regular spider that is trapped under a glass [13:35] Name? [13:35] I'm going to name him Rick Perry [13:35] Server is backup...random songs and noises until we start [13:36] We get wolf spiders here, they are big and scary. [13:37] The size of a hockey puck. [13:37] * Sparrowhawk has joined #nonprophets [13:37] butter butt? [13:37] saw one crawling along the bank of the river i was tubing on last weekend.. my foot was an inch away from it when it started scuttling away- easily the size of half of a dollar bill [13:37] My Shih-Tzu Terrier Poodle killed one once, she was beaming with pride for hours. [13:37] I found a black widow in my backyard once [13:37] just about lost it trying to paddle back to the middle [13:38] * MrSunshine has joined #nonprophets [13:38] lol i like this song [13:40] brb, going to get a Coke [13:40] don't forget the lime, you nut! [13:40] I'm out of limes [13:40] How about some Captain Morgan instead? [13:40] * NorwegianAtheist has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [13:41] that is an acceptable substitue, but only if you have enough for everyone [13:41] sure...just come to Kentucky and I'll give you some [13:41] lol [13:43] * Roland has joined #nonprophets [13:44] any guests on the show today? [13:44] No guests...just the regular crew [13:44] Are we not good enough, freethinker? [13:45] I prefer just the regular crew [13:45] you are superb...I just wanted to make sure it wasn't going to be ruined by having guests [13:45] Lots of news, though and no show next week (I'm in Oklahoma). [13:45] it'd be even better if we heard you speak more, beth! :) [13:46] She's going to talk a lot today...and you may hear more from her than expected, if things go as planned [13:46] awesome. is that because its about rick perry today? [13:47] * Spazfox has joined #nonprophets [13:47] Who scares you most? Perry, Bachmann, or Palin? [13:47] *shudder* [13:48] * jennifer has joined #nonprophets [13:49] Palin isn't a threat. She can't even teach her kids about sex....her son has just knocked up his GF, following the family's unprotected sex policy [13:49] is it sufficient to say I would take the stairs in any of those cases? [13:49] Bachmann seems like she could get the largest number of skull hammering tards to back her up. [13:49] with Christians, it is always about "Do as Jesus says, not as I do" [13:51] Do you think Romney has a chance? [13:51] * Kleti has joined #nonprophets [13:52] No, Mormons are too weird. [13:52] * dimmy has joined #nonprophets [13:52] With Romney, you just have to point out that Mormons don't believe in the Trinity [13:52] * protopod has quit IRC [13:53] I'm confused. Thought sex before marriage was a christian no-no. If you gonna break one rule you might as well break two and use protection. [13:54] Palin's probably not a contender. The "boo hoo, how can you pick on me," act won't get you past the primaries. [13:54] pre-meditated premarital sex is worse than premarital sex that just 'happens' , as the rationale goes [13:55] love Tim Minchin [13:55] dito [13:55] Never have I heard so much fuck in 1 song before [13:55] * Lars has joined #nonprophets [13:55] So killing is less bad as long as it "just happens" [13:56] Somebody should change the lyrics a bit and turn it into a song against Rick Perry [13:56] pre meditated homicide is prosecuted differently than 'fit of rage' cases, aren't they? [13:57] * Lars has quit IRC (Broken pipe) [13:57] usually, yes, anne [13:57] * Lars_Norway has joined #nonprophets [13:57] * HazmatKat has joined #nonprophets [13:58] 1st degree vs 2nd in Canada. [13:59] 1st is premeditated, 2nd is intentional not premeditated, 3rd is accidental but negligent, aka manslaughter. [13:59] Point taken. [13:59] well thats the rationale behind teens not planning for 'sinful' [13:59] Don't know how you Yankees handle that. [13:59] activities (sry, hit enter too soon) [14:00] ugh, so glad to be out of that [14:01] Internally consistant logic. But their permise is fuck to start with. Makes sense. [14:01] * asdrubale has joined #nonprophets [14:01] * asdrubale has quit IRC (asdrubale) [14:01] Is the show started? [14:01] not yet [14:01] Very soon [14:02] Copy that. [14:02] 2 is a little low. [14:03] number 1 ok! [14:03] working [14:03] turn it up [14:03] I'm stoked, this is the first time I've been able to get the live stream. [14:03] that's bad [14:03] good [14:03] bad [14:03] kermit! special guest! [14:03] woot [14:03] Jim Henson iz not haz died? [14:03] blah, blah, blah [14:04] Feedback [14:04] I thought Jim Henson died years ago [14:04] No, no, no. [14:04] dennis better yes [14:04] (he did) [14:04] sounds good to me [14:04] Russell was channelling Jim H [14:04] * Tscott has joined #nonprophets [14:05] * Tscott has quit IRC (Tscott) [14:05] auch [14:05] Amy Winehouse? Too soon, non-prophets... [14:05] too soon [14:05] lol [14:05] tsk tsk tsk [14:05] too soon my ass [14:05] She's been dead for hours now. [14:05] are you going to make Norwegian killing spree jokes, too? [14:05] Too soon how? [14:05] Probably cold by now. [14:05] What the fuck makes you think it was a joke? [14:06] Yes, playing the music of the recently deceased just MUST be a joke. [14:06] This intro was written independently of the music decision. [14:06] the country of norway didn't release songs about how it needs christianity to avoid terrorism [14:06] my apologies [14:06] Comparing a killing spree to a death a celebrity is fair [14:06] * svartulf has joined #nonprophets [14:07] Overthinking atheists are overthinking. :P [14:07] no more moths? [14:07] my bad [14:08] The moths are dead! [14:08] :) [14:09] Matt will be in Carousel the week after [14:09] yay [14:09] congratulations [14:09] yay a building! [14:10] very nice [14:11] cool [14:11] Even years 1-3? [14:11] * Kazim has joined #nonprophets [14:11] video would be rad [14:11] Hi gang [14:11] hi Russell [14:12] Next caller! [14:12] There will be no video of me doing NP. [14:12] hi [14:12] lol Beth [14:12] hi [14:12] I'm in pajamas and a hairnet [14:12] oh, a stream :D [14:13] will there be a studio cat? [14:13] Moohamed and FSM will not like to be usurped [14:13] beth speaks, alright!! woot [14:13] Al Gore [14:13] .... bill haslam isn't that fantastic [14:13] was Gore a governor? [14:14] he goes to my church [14:14] *my parents' church [14:14] Gore was a senator [14:14] fyi http://www.tn.gov/governor/ [14:15] I can feel something I wanna move... [14:16] he's palling around with terrorists [14:16] Are you gonna be speaking about this whole skepchick elevatorgate thing today, Nonprophets? [14:17] please no [14:17] Yeah, because every atheist must add their two cents. [14:17] TehFlan, Tracie Harris talked about it on The Ardent Atheist podcast [14:17] We would be happy to, but I think we've agreed we're not gonna. [14:17] Freethinker23: is she a host there now? [14:18] no, she was a guest [14:18] I like the old style gates on elevators! who doesn't? [14:18] Well I haven't heard anyone say a single intelligent thing about it, so I was just sort of hoping for something other than name-calling BS. [14:18] nice, russel [14:18] * AmyLivesForever has joined #nonprophets [14:18] NO ELEVATORGATE!!! [14:18] please do, Matt [14:18] Amy's bought a condo on Venus, near Elvis' place... [14:19] he's absolutely correct [14:19] yes!! learning is a good thing! [14:20] Educashun is bad. [14:20] we don't need no educashun [14:20] my own mother has told me that if i think too much i'll lose my faith, like it was a bad thing [14:20] rüde? [14:20] when i mentioned interest in philosophy [14:21] I think many fundies would outlaw public schools if they could [14:21] speaking on a college campus, saying that education is bad? wtf [14:22] there were no atheists before the internet [14:22] (say with Dalek voice)Destroy! Must Destroy! [14:22] ooops just realized this was playing a bit loud... ... hope my parents weren't wandering by, lol [14:23] invite them in to listen, Anne ;) [14:24] and they send scare tactic propaganda to their houses to try and garner donations for campus ministries... [14:24] what a disaster that would be, freethinker23 [14:27] * AmyLivesForever has quit IRC (AmyLivesForever) [14:28] * mond has quit IRC (mond) [14:28] But without tangents the show isn't as fun! [14:28] adding "bobcat" to my NP drinking game [14:29] * mond has joined #nonprophets [14:29] sounds like a plan, freethinker [14:30] lol, the most attractive person in history [14:30] they get hard just looking at pictures of Jesus [14:31] need to find pictures of 'ripped' jesus... [14:31] The YMCA now bills itself as just "The Y" [14:32] Appeal to the yoof [14:32] Poochie. [14:32] crusade, the baptist group, and wesley were the biggest groups when i left etsu [14:33] Anne, the Well was the biggest I saw [14:34] WTF [14:34] oh yeah! i forgot about them- i guess they aren't quite as close to campus as the others [14:34] O_o [14:34] ugh the well is a big emotionally manipulative mindfuck- did you ever go? [14:35] No [14:36] i went once my freshman year- super loud music, really dark except for the entire big back wall with swirling vivid colors and typical modern christian music (don't remember what the sermon was about) [14:37] Oh, yeah, it's a way to get high on Jesus. [14:37] * donnyton has joined #nonprophets [14:37] timeshifting NPR, yay~ [14:38] hope they cover the norway story [14:38] No Norway. I didn't prepare, and I don't have much info on it. [14:38] I just found out that there was a shooting and not just a bombing :( [14:38] and that that's responsible for most of the over 90 deaths >_< [14:39] yes, it is very sad. Apparently, the same guy is responsible for both the bombing and shootings [14:39] I don't know that I've heard there was a religious aspect to it [14:39] I don't think it was religiously motivated [14:39] http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/world/europe/24oslo.html?_r=1&hp [14:40] Being norwegian, I have some info on the shooting and the bombing. [14:40] ok...according to donny's link, apparently there is [14:40] but perhaps _Norway has something to say [14:41] * pm has joined #nonprophets [14:42] The guy the've arrested is assumed to be responsible for both the shooting and the bombing. According to his Facebookpage, he is a christian, but there's no reason to believe that his actions were religiously motivated. [14:44] AronRa was there. :3 [14:44] loved that video of al franken [14:46] two married parents that were both legal guardians of all the children in the family, i think he said [14:46] * Raborn has joined #nonprophets [14:46] Gentlemen :3 [14:46] ( '3') [14:46] hey Raborn [14:46] Oh hai [14:47] brb [14:47] * Raborn has left #nonprophets [14:47] that was a sarcastic "gentlemen" right? [14:47] * Raborn has joined #nonprophets [14:47] :3 [14:47] I used to be gay but now I am just sad [14:48] Decision to be gay. It is to laugh. [14:48] just do it as swamp perople [14:48] *a swamp person [14:48] Sounds like a closet case. [14:48] just think of the outrage if there was a program to "fix" Christians [14:49] you mean college? [14:49] lol [14:49] It ain't the bum sex that makes a person gay. [14:49] other way around [14:50] It's the 3:00 AM truck stop glory holing that makes a person gay. :P [14:50] * praisejebus has joined #nonprophets [14:50] bobcat! [14:50] was/is there a show? Dunno how to connected to strem [14:51] there is a show now [14:51] http://www.bitsizzle.com:9000/nonprophets [14:51] http://nonprophets.dyndns.org:8000/listen.pls [14:51] Hei Lars! I'm in Asker and have been watching the news all day today. 85 teenagers + 7 others. what a sick bastard! [14:51] BOBCAT! [14:51] thanks [14:53] The shooting thing is just insane [14:53] dont let the...yeah [14:53] beth beat me [14:54] I'll take their word for it [14:54] Im like 30 secs behind you guys [14:54] Wasn't there a judge in Louisiana who refused to marry interracial couples? [14:55] Heh, Charles. [14:56] Did you hear about the Austrian guy that got his driver's license picture taken with a spaghetti strainer on his head because he was a member of the FSM Church? In Austria, you can't get the picture taken with headgear unless it is for religious purposes. [14:57] well thats not true. headgears are allowed for everyone. it had nothing to do with his pastafarism. but it was nice to see it in the news [14:57] at least as far as i know anyway.. [14:57] The article I read said that you couldn't wear anything on your head for a driver's license picture unless it was for religious reasons [14:58] pm: I know. I've been fortunate enough to work all day at the bloodbank in Oslo. Just doing something else than watching the news over and over is the best way to deal with this. I'm still waiting for news from a couple of friends who knew several of the people at the youth camp. Horrible. [14:58] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14135523 [14:59] quote from that article. "The photo was not approved on religious grounds. The only criterion for photos in driving licence applications is that the whole face must be visible” [15:00] oh, I must have misread it [15:00] thanks^^ i had only german news available [15:02] untestable by design... by intelligent design? lol [15:02] damn, have been listening to npr at 1,33x speed and still haven't caught up to the programme :o [15:06] Lars: Hope your friends friends are ok! You're right about watching too much. I've been watching for about 24hours now and I feel ill. Going for a walk after this. [15:10] Skepicism v Atheism? Teach the controvesy. [15:12] His sister got rich off it. [15:12] And famous. [15:12] I'm just a rubber, yes I'm only a rubber, [15:13] lol! [15:13] What do you want to know about Norway? [15:14] How are the Fjords? [15:14] the FB profile of the attacker isn't available anymore... [15:14] I don't know if that's fair to crazy people. [15:14] EDF - Racist bigot fuckers [15:15] The fjords rock. [15:15] :3 [15:15] Do you pine for them? [15:15] Killing sprees are rarely sane. [15:15] Unless it's in GTA. [15:15] Indeed I do. And I've got a lovely plumage. [15:16] I hear you also prefer kipping on your back. [15:16] Whatever that means. [15:16] kipping is.. napping? maybe? [15:16] he's a conservative christian [15:17] =fundamentalist christian? [15:17] "We have no more information than... what has been found on [his] own websites, which is that it goes towards the right and that it is, so to speak, Christian fundamentalist." [15:17] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14259356 [15:17] drink! [15:17] bobcat on bobcat! [15:18] ugh dollywood [15:18] theme park with rollercoasters and waterpark [15:18] last time i was there got to see Dolly herself, actually [15:18] He is indeed a christian, but the police do believe that he was more poliically motivated. Kazim: kipping? :/ [15:18] it was the 25th anniversary of the park or something, and there was a one-float parade through the park with her on it [15:19] *on the float [15:19] I've seen Dolly too [15:19] lol, we must both be from tennessee [15:19] like everyone in england knows the queen, right? [15:19] My mom used to get in free because Dolly loved deaf people [15:19] Some things you can't unsee. [15:19] loved.. past tense? [15:19] well, I'm not sure they still get in free [15:20] oh yeah, btw: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2011/0720/1224301009958.html [15:20] from the pictures, you looked great [15:21] Lars: http://www.davidpbrown.co.uk/jokes/monty-python-parrot.html [15:21] too much makeup [15:21] (search page for "kippin") [15:21] #Sometimes its hard to be woman [15:22] bobcat on elevatorgate, lol [15:22] And how the atheist community is a sausage fest. :P [15:23] * Raborn waggles his dick [15:23] Someone say sausage fest? [15:23] I agree with Tracie's comments on Ardent Atheist [15:23] Ugh...zeitgeist. [15:23] Kazim: Ah, yes I do i fact prefer kippin' on my back. And I wouldn't voom if you put 40.000 volts through me. [15:23] yes, it was at tam [15:24] jen mccreight posted about it [15:24] * Sparrowhawk has quit IRC [15:24] If we just ban coffee this won't be a problem anymore. [15:25] and institute a bedtime at conventions [15:25] Mhm. [15:25] Don't take this the wrong way, but feminism is dogmatic [15:25] * mond has quit IRC (mond) [15:26] That's called projection, sir. [15:26] Some feminists might be [15:26] * mond has joined #nonprophets [15:26] The idea itself isn't [15:26] Some atheists might be as well. [15:26] Yeah, like that one guy, Spazfox [15:26] :3 [15:27] You feminists are just as dogmatic as the misogynists! [15:27] Having a self proclaimed label does not make a person more or less smart. We's all just peoples. [15:27] I just don't think it's correct to compare telling someone they are going to be tortured forever with someone asking the opposite sex for coffee [15:27] Agfeminism is the only way [15:28] It's an analogy, and as such it's imperfect. [15:28] It's a bad one :P [15:28] HazmatKat: Just no. Let's not do this. PLEASE go read PZ and Jen Mccreight on this. [15:28] And by what criteria is it correct or incorrect? [15:28] I do not think that word means what you think it means. [15:29] beth ^^seconded [15:29] And by the way: http://madartlab.com/files/2011/07/theelevator.jpg [15:30] is it actually going to be weekly when you get the building? [15:30] * Lars_Norway has quit IRC (Lars_Norway) [15:30] thanks for the show, guys! [15:30] * praisejebus has quit IRC (praisejebus) [15:30] Yay, pain! [15:30] good show guys [15:30] oh, banana man? sneaky [15:30] and girls [15:30] I've learned 2 things form elevatorgate [15:31] 1: Get to know chicks before you ask them for sex [15:31] Hilarious pic [15:31] 2: i'm going to never have sex [15:31] Thus endeth the lesson...back in two weeks with more yummy atheist goodness. [15:31] @Freethinker, it will probably be weekly. All the NP people will have keys and access to go do a show on their own schedules. [15:31] byez [15:31] * svartulf has quit IRC (svartulf) [15:31] Bring back pies, Non-Prophets [15:31] And cakes [15:31] Non-Prophets: please let the topic reflect that so people won't wonder next Saturday :) [15:31] * jennifer has quit IRC (jennifer) [15:32] * TehFlan has quit IRC (TehFlan) [15:32] but now for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmo1a-bimAM [15:32] no English subs ): [15:32] * sn1989 has quit IRC (This must be heaven, have I found it? What I've been looking for. This must be heaven, have I finally stumbled through the door?) [15:33] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat Jul 23 15:33:44 2011